Things you must understand about Climate

[EMH]

I wonder if the Democrats version of global warming is the same as in the rest of the country's versions?

The whole scam started after Global Cooling failed in the 1970s. Gore, Mann, and Hansen were young participants in Global Cooling. What they discovered is that the vast majority of temperature data is from URBAN AREAS where people live. That data shows warming, actual real data warming, because of this...

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As urban areas grow, they warm, more warm buildings, cars, pavement etc. So if you just define that as "global temperatures" you can't miss = Global "warming."

This scam has been busted over and over and over for lying and fudging data, and it is a sorry state of TREASON at DEPT of JUSTICE and FBI that this is still ongoing... costing us $20 trillion and counting. We are being raked by China over "rare Earths" that "we need" cough cough to build the ******* worthless MORON MOBILE EV.

The scam is truly international and UN. Nobody has a different "version."

 

[Old Rocks]

You did not read the graph properly. It includes Geographical events and Meteorological events move both ways.

Geophysical events have increased only slightly, meteorological, hydrological, and climatological events have all increased greatly, doubling or tripling in the time period on the graph.

 

[Old Rocks]

His source is dishonest and misleading notice he does use NOT official sources, here is mine based on the NOAA , NASA and other sources where original data are found in it.

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Storminess has not gone up, and there’s been no increase in hurricane strength or frequency … no “emergency” there.

First, the strength.

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And here is the global hurricane frequency, both for all hurricanes and for the strongest hurricanes.


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The 12 months from April 2021 to May 2022 have seen close to the fewest major hurricanes in more than 40 years.

And there is much longer evidence to back that up. Here are the records of all hurricanes (left) and major hurricanes (right) that came ashore in the US in the last 150 years … NO increase. SOURCE: Nature magazine.

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And here are the numbers of Pacific typhoons (hurricanes) from the Japanese Meteorological Agency.

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And here are a century and a half of records of the number of landfalling hurricanes in Florida.

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Finally, here are the declining numbers of both strong and average cyclones (Southern Hemisphere hurricanes) in Australian waters, from the Australian Bureau of Meteorology (BOM).

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And here is the Rutgers Snow Labatory’s snow extent data from 1972 to April 2023 … basically, no change.

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Strong tornadoes in the US are steadily decreasing over the last 72 years.

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And the same is true of weaker tornadoes … decreasing.

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There are plenty more that exposes you and your ideological source that LIES and LIES and LIES.

LINK

Hmmmmmm..................................

Severity and frequency of each event is increasing​

Experts and government agencies that track severe weather events report an upward trend in numerous categories.

Heat waves occur three times more often now than they did in the 1960s, according to the Environmental Protection Agency. The average heat wave season lasts 49 days longer and individual heat waves have become more frequent and intense.

The increase in heat waves is due to climate change, said Michael Wehner, a senior scientist at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory.

"First, the additional carbon dioxide in the atmosphere from burning fossil fuels traps more of the sun’s energy," Wehner previously told USA TODAY. "Second, the generally warmer conditions from global warming result in drier soils, leading to less ... evaporation from the ground and transpiration (emission of water vapor) from the plants, which means there is less cooling from that process."

Fact checks: Experts say extreme weather events are increasing in severity, not decreasing

Extreme weather events have increased in frequency and severity in the last several decades due to climate change, according to experts.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Old Rocks]

The whole scam started after Global Cooling failed in the 1970s. Gore, Mann, and Hansen were young participants in Global Cooling. What they discovered is that the vast majority of temperature data is from URBAN AREAS where people live. That data shows warming, actual real data warming, because of this...

Google Search

As urban areas grow, they warm, more warm buildings, cars, pavement etc. So if you just define that as "global temperatures" you can't miss = Global "warming."

This scam has been busted over and over and over for lying and fudging data, and it is a sorry state of TREASON at DEPT of JUSTICE and FBI that this is still ongoing... costing us $20 trillion and counting. We are being raked by China over "rare Earths" that "we need" cough cough to build the ******* worthless MORON MOBILE EV.

The scam is truly international and UN. Nobody has a different "version."

Oh my, another dumb **** repeating that old lie.

How the "Global Cooling" Story Came to Be

Nine paragraphs written for Newsweek in 1975 continue to trump 40 years of climate science. It is a record that has its author amazed

www.scientificamerican.com

However, that same year this scientific paper was published by the National Academy of Science. And it basically said that we did not at that time have enough data to accurately predict cooling or warming, but gave cooling only about a 5% chance, and said the increase in GHGs made warming the most likely to occur. By then the Keeling curve was well known, as well as the effect of the aerosols from polluting industries like coal generation plants.

Understanding climatic change : United States Committee for the Global Atmospheric Research Program : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

http://uf.catalog.fcla.edu/uf.jsp?st=UF020278045&ix=pm&I=0&V=D&pm=1

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[Old Rocks]

As measured by lives and livelihoods ... weather damages are way way down ... thank you science ... more research is always better ...

Down because of accurate weather predictions and early warning systems. All being downsized under the present government of ignoramuses. A modern example of what happens without the early warning systems is the disaster in 1970 in Bangladesh where a cyclone stuck without warning killing up to 500,000 people. Yet in 2024, a similiar cyclone hit and only killed 16.
"But fatalities from those rains and cyclones have fallen dramatically. For example: In 1970, Cyclone Bhola killed up to half a million people in what is now Bangladesh, while last year's Cyclone Sitrang killed 16.d"



Also, the frequency of these storms are increasing;

Once-Every-100-Year Storms Will Occur Every Decade in Bangladesh

The researchers' models predicted that the country's weather will have dramatically worsened by the end of the century.

www.technologynetworks.com

 

[ReinyDays]

Also, the frequency of these storms are increasing;

Once-Every-100-Year Storms Will Occur Every Decade in Bangladesh

The researchers' models predicted that the country's weather will have dramatically worsened by the end of the century.

www.technologynetworks.com

These numbers are available to the public ... show me where frequency has increased ...

The stupidity here is we only have 50 years of scientifically accurate data ... we don't know the 100-year event yet ... in that 50 years of scientifically accurate data, there is no detectable trends of any kind ... and no expert would expect one, so why should we? ...

Or show us ... let's see the math ... some addition and a bit of division, it's not hard ...

 

[Robert W]

Geophysical events have increased only slightly, meteorological, hydrological, and climatological events have all increased greatly, doubling or tripling in the time period on the graph.

That is not what the graph shows.

 

[EMH]

said the increase in GHGs made warming the most likely to occur.

and what does the ACTUAL DATA say...

Where are these "greenhouse gasses?"

In the atmosphere... where we have two and only two measures of temp, satellites and balloons... what did they say?

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

"satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling"



Translation from NBC: for more than three decades of rising atmospheric CO2, the highly correlated satellite and balloon data showed PRECISELY NO WARMING IN THE ATMOSPHERE before being FUDGED in 2005.

The FUDGE JOB is beyond laughable.

The claim is that "orbit wobble" required the satellite data to be fudged from a flat line into an upward slope. In fact, altering the orbit of the IR satellite DOES NOT CHANGE THE DATA AT ALL since IR is also used to detect temp on Pluto... nice try...

The balloons were said to have a "shade issue." If so, each data would be "corrected" by adding or subtracting a CONSTANT, keeping a FLAT LINE a flat line.... but no, miraculously a "constant error factor" was used to fudge a FLAT LINE into an upward slope.


THE CO2 FRAUD HAS NEVER HAD ANY ACTUAL DATA SHOWING WARMING IN THE ATMOSPHERE, ONLY FUDGE.


THE BEST MEASURE OF EARTH's TEMPERATURE, the WHOLE PLANET EARTH, is SURFACE AIR PRESSURE, which also documents NO WARMING.

 

[EMH]

That is not what the graph shows.

The hurricane data completely refutes

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

 

[Sunsettommy]

Hmmmmmm..................................

Severity and frequency of each event is increasing​

Experts and government agencies that track severe weather events report an upward trend in numerous categories.

Heat waves occur three times more often now than they did in the 1960s, according to the Environmental Protection Agency. The average heat wave season lasts 49 days longer and individual heat waves have become more frequent and intense.

The increase in heat waves is due to climate change, said Michael Wehner, a senior scientist at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory.

"First, the additional carbon dioxide in the atmosphere from burning fossil fuels traps more of the sun’s energy," Wehner previously told USA TODAY. "Second, the generally warmer conditions from global warming result in drier soils, leading to less ... evaporation from the ground and transpiration (emission of water vapor) from the plants, which means there is less cooling from that process."

Fact checks: Experts say extreme weather events are increasing in severity, not decreasing

Extreme weather events have increased in frequency and severity in the last several decades due to climate change, according to experts.

www.usatoday.com

Hmmm the OFFICIAL data I used is from the following, EMDAT, NOAA several times, Nature, JMA, BOM, Rutgers Snow Labs.

You didn't address any of them which means my post remains unaddressed while you posted a link to a propaganda page that doesn't use base data at all.

The NOAA and NCEI doesn't support it:

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Regarding heat, very hot days in the US (over 100°F, or 38°C) were much higher in the 1930s than at any other time in the last 125 years.

But if you want to worry about heat waves, please get back to me when the heat waves are worse than those of the 1930s, well before the large increase in CO2 …

Here’s another view of the temperatures of US summers. Again, nothing unusual going on.

LINK

You are a very, very brainwashed man.

 

[EMH]

The ACTUAL DATA has ALWAYS REFUTED CO2 FRAUD...

 

[Robert W]

More data by scientists concerning the Antarctic.

“The landscape hidden beneath the East Antarctic Ice Sheet is one of the most mysterious not just on Earth, but on any terrestrial planet in the solar system,” said Dr. Paxman. He noted that these flat features became clear once the team began examining the radar data. “The flat surfaces we have found have managed to survive relatively intact for over 30 million years, indicating that parts of the ice sheet have preserved rather than eroded the landscape.”

That’s a striking contrast to what scientists might expect. Ice sheets usually grind away the land beneath them, especially where they move quickly. But here, much of the ancient surface has survived nearly untouched.

MSN

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

The ACTUAL DATA has ALWAYS REFUTED CO2 FRAUD...

New survey of climate scientists by Bray and von Storch confirms broad consensus on human causation
by Bart Verheggen
Bray and von Storch just published the results of their latest survey of climate scientists. It contains lots of interesting and very detailed information, though some questions are a little biased in my opinion. Still, they find a strong consensus on human causation of climate change: 87.4% of respondents are to some extent convinced that most of recent or near future climate change is, or will be, the result of anthropogenic causes (question v007). Responses were given on a scale from 1 (not at all) to 7 (very much). In line with Bray (2010) a response between 5 and 7 is considered agreement with anthropogenic causation. In their 2008 survey the level of agreement based on the same question was 83.5% and in 2013 it was 80.9%.

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

Hmmm the OFFICIAL data I used is from the following, EMDAT, NOAA several times, Nature, JMA, BOM, Rutgers Snow Labs.

You didn't address any of them which means my post remains unaddressed while you posted a link to a propaganda page that doesn't use base data at all.

The NOAA and NCEI doesn't support it:

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Regarding heat, very hot days in the US (over 100°F, or 38°C) were much higher in the 1930s than at any other time in the last 125 years.

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But if you want to worry about heat waves, please get back to me when the heat waves are worse than those of the 1930s, well before the large increase in CO2 …

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Here’s another view of the temperatures of US summers. Again, nothing unusual going on.

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LINK

You are a very, very brainwashed man.

Overall, we rate Watts Up with That a strong pseudoscience and conspiracy website based on promoting consistent human-influenced climate denialism propaganda and several failed fact checks

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

The hurricane data completely refutes

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

Interview: Hans von Storch on Problems with Climate Change Models

Climate experts have long predicted that temperatures would rise in parallel with greenhouse gas emissions. But, for 15 years, they haven't. In a SPIEGEL interview, meteorologist Hans von Storch discusses how this "puzzle" might force scientists to alter what could be "fundamentally wrong" models.

www.spiegel.de

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

and what does the ACTUAL DATA say...

Where are these "greenhouse gasses?"

In the atmosphere... where we have two and only two measures of temp, satellites and balloons... what did they say?

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

"satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling"



Translation from NBC: for more than three decades of rising atmospheric CO2, the highly correlated satellite and balloon data showed PRECISELY NO WARMING IN THE ATMOSPHERE before being FUDGED in 2005.

The FUDGE JOB is beyond laughable.

The claim is that "orbit wobble" required the satellite data to be fudged from a flat line into an upward slope. In fact, altering the orbit of the IR satellite DOES NOT CHANGE THE DATA AT ALL since IR is also used to detect temp on Pluto... nice try...

The balloons were said to have a "shade issue." If so, each data would be "corrected" by adding or subtracting a CONSTANT, keeping a FLAT LINE a flat line.... but no, miraculously a "constant error factor" was used to fudge a FLAT LINE into an upward slope.


THE CO2 FRAUD HAS NEVER HAD ANY ACTUAL DATA SHOWING WARMING IN THE ATMOSPHERE, ONLY FUDGE.


THE BEST MEASURE OF EARTH's TEMPERATURE, the WHOLE PLANET EARTH, is SURFACE AIR PRESSURE, which also documents NO WARMING.

Scientific Consensus - NASA Science

It’s important to remember that scientists always focus on the evidence, not on opinions. Scientific evidence continues to show that human activities

science.nasa.gov

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

and what does the ACTUAL DATA say...

Where are these "greenhouse gasses?"

In the atmosphere... where we have two and only two measures of temp, satellites and balloons... what did they say?

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

"satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling"



Translation from NBC: for more than three decades of rising atmospheric CO2, the highly correlated satellite and balloon data showed PRECISELY NO WARMING IN THE ATMOSPHERE before being FUDGED in 2005.

The FUDGE JOB is beyond laughable.

The claim is that "orbit wobble" required the satellite data to be fudged from a flat line into an upward slope. In fact, altering the orbit of the IR satellite DOES NOT CHANGE THE DATA AT ALL since IR is also used to detect temp on Pluto... nice try...

The balloons were said to have a "shade issue." If so, each data would be "corrected" by adding or subtracting a CONSTANT, keeping a FLAT LINE a flat line.... but no, miraculously a "constant error factor" was used to fudge a FLAT LINE into an upward slope.


THE CO2 FRAUD HAS NEVER HAD ANY ACTUAL DATA SHOWING WARMING IN THE ATMOSPHERE, ONLY FUDGE.


THE BEST MEASURE OF EARTH's TEMPERATURE, the WHOLE PLANET EARTH, is SURFACE AIR PRESSURE, which also documents NO WARMING.

Ice cores and climate change - British Antarctic Survey

Introduction Ice cores are cylinders of ice drilled out of an ice sheet or glacier. Most ice core records come from Antarctica and Greenland, and the longest ice cores extend …

www.bas.ac.uk

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

The whole scam started after Global Cooling failed in the 1970s. Gore, Mann, and Hansen were young participants in Global Cooling. What they discovered is that the vast majority of temperature data is from URBAN AREAS where people live. That data shows warming, actual real data warming, because of this...

Google Search

As urban areas grow, they warm, more warm buildings, cars, pavement etc. So if you just define that as "global temperatures" you can't miss = Global "warming."

This scam has been busted over and over and over for lying and fudging data, and it is a sorry state of TREASON at DEPT of JUSTICE and FBI that this is still ongoing... costing us $20 trillion and counting. We are being raked by China over "rare Earths" that "we need" cough cough to build the ******* worthless MORON MOBILE EV.

The scam is truly international and UN. Nobody has a different "version."

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Climate science as we know it today did not exist in the 1960s and 1970s. The integrated enterprise embodied in the Nobel Prizewinning work of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change existed then as separate threads of research pursued by isolated groups of scientists. Atmospheric chemists and modelers grappled with the measurement of changes in carbon dioxide and atmospheric gases, and the changes in climate that might result. Meanwhile, geologists and paleoclimate researchers tried to understand when Earth slipped into and out of ice ages, and why. An enduring popular myth suggests that in the 1970s the climate science community was predicting “global cooling” and an “imminent” ice age, an observation frequently used by those who would undermine what climate scientists say today about the prospect of global warming. A review of the literature suggests that, on the contrary, greenhouse warming even then dominated scientists' thinking as being one of the most important forces shaping Earth's climate on human time scales. More importantly than showing the falsehood of the myth, this review describes how scientists of the time built the foundation on which the cohesive enterprise of modern climate science now rests.

NOAA/National Climatic Data Center, Asheville, North Carolina

British Antarctic Survey, National Environment Research Council, Cambridge, United Kingdom

Albuquerque Journal, Albuquerque, New Mexico

CORRESPONDING AUTHOR: Thomas C. Peterson, NOAA/National Climatic Data Center, 151 Patton Avenue, Asheville, NC 28803, E-mail