Things WE can do to reduce CO2 emissions

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What are the major sources of CO2 on the planet and what can we do, actively, passively or by simple choices to reduce those emissions and make it easier for our governments, at all levels, to reduce others.

First: sources and sinks: (Sources of Greenhouse Gas Emissions | US EPA and Inventory of U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Sinks | US EPA

1) Transportation. 28.5% of US emissions comes from fossil fuels powering our planes, trains and automobiles and ships and motorcycles and trucks and everything else with an ICE that rolls.

2) Electricity Production. 28.4% of 2016 US emissions came from our power plants. Approximately 68% of our electrical energy is generated by coal, natural gas and other fossil fuels

3) Industry. Approximately 22% of our greenhouse gas emissions come from industrial processes. The largest portion is the burning of fossil fuels for energy (the heat required for smelting iron, for instance), the next from processes that produce GHGs as a side product (eg, the manufacture of cement releases large quantities of CO2)

4) Commercial and residental. 11% of GHG emissions come primarily from fossil fuels burned to proiduce heat and handle waste

5) Agriculture> Roughly 9% of GHGs from from livestock [insert snickers for <12 crowd and Skookerasbil] soil decomposition and rice paddies

6) Land use and forestry. In the US in 2016, managed forests and other lands have absorbed more CO2 than they have produced offsetting 11% of our emissions.

So what can we do, not do, and decide, that will help reduce our CO2 emissions from these sources?
 
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Take our concerns about the climate into the ballot box. Vote for candidates who show a similar concern and ambition to reduce CO2 emissions. The problems we face are dire and immediate. They require immediate, committed and bold action. Don't settle for lip service.
 

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why would we bother? Got any actual observed, measured evidence that supports the claim that more CO2 equals more warming? Any at all?
 

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What are the major sources of CO2 on the planet and what can we do, actively, passively or by simple choices to reduce those emissions and make it easier for our governments, at all levels, to reduce others.

First: sources and sinks: (Sources of Greenhouse Gas Emissions | US EPA and Inventory of U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Sinks | US EPA

1) Transportation. 28.5% of US emissions comes from fossil fuels powering our planes, trains and automobiles and ships and motorcycles and trucks and everything else with an ICE that rolls.

2) Electricity Production. 28.4% of 2016 US emissions came from our power plants. Approximately 68% of our electrical energy is generated by coal, natural gas and other fossil fuels

3) Industry. Approximately 22% of our greenhouse gas emissions come from industrial processes. The largest portion is the burning of fossil fuels for energy (the heat required for smelting iron, for instance), the next from processes that produce GHGs as a side product (eg, the manufacture of cement releases large quantities of CO2)

4) Commercial and residental. 11% of GHG emissions come primarily from fossil fuels burned to proiduce heat and handle waste

5) Agriculture> Roughly 9% of GHGs from from livestock [insert snickers for <12 crowd and Skookerasbil] soil decomposition and rice paddies

6) Land use and forestry. In the US in 2016, managed forests and other lands have absorbed more CO2 than they have produced offsetting 11% of our emissions.

So what can we do, not do, and decide, that will help reduce our CO2 emissions from these sources?
You can move to China and raise their carbon footprint awareness
 
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Drive vehicles with the smallest CO2 production possible. Back when gas shortages were real and people were actually shocked to be $3.00/gallon for gasoline, there was a move towards smaller, more fuel efficient cars. These days, such cars are going out of production because we've all told Detroit we love SUVs. However, the mileage ratings of SUVs have been improving. Hybrid and fully electric models are now available. The Mercedes GLE 550e gets 43 mpg combined and the GLC 350e achieves 56. Small sedans will continue to be available from foreign manufacturers: Toyota, Hyundai, BMW and so forth.

And, of course, there is always the humble bicycle.
 
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Drive vehicles with the smallest CO2 production possible. Back when gas shortages were real and people were actually shocked to be $3.00/gallon for gasoline, there was a move towards smaller, more fuel efficient cars. These days, such cars are going out of production because we've all told Detroit we love SUVs. However, the mileage ratings of SUVs have been improving. Hybrid and fully electric models are now available. The Mercedes GLE 550e gets 43 mpg combined and the GLC 350e achieves 56. Small sedans will continue to be available from foreign manufacturers: Toyota, Hyundai, BMW and so forth.

And, of course, there is always the humble bicycle...
 

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No evidence huh? You think by ignoring the fact that you can't provide any you will make that fact disappear?
 

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What are the major sources of CO2 on the planet and what can we do, actively, passively or by simple choices to reduce those emissions and make it easier for our governments, at all levels, to reduce others.

First: sources and sinks: (Sources of Greenhouse Gas Emissions | US EPA and Inventory of U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Sinks | US EPA

1) Transportation. 28.5% of US emissions comes from fossil fuels powering our planes, trains and automobiles and ships and motorcycles and trucks and everything else with an ICE that rolls.

2) Electricity Production. 28.4% of 2016 US emissions came from our power plants. Approximately 68% of our electrical energy is generated by coal, natural gas and other fossil fuels

3) Industry. Approximately 22% of our greenhouse gas emissions come from industrial processes. The largest portion is the burning of fossil fuels for energy (the heat required for smelting iron, for instance), the next from processes that produce GHGs as a side product (eg, the manufacture of cement releases large quantities of CO2)

4) Commercial and residental. 11% of GHG emissions come primarily from fossil fuels burned to proiduce heat and handle waste

5) Agriculture> Roughly 9% of GHGs from from livestock [insert snickers for <12 crowd and Skookerasbil] soil decomposition and rice paddies

6) Land use and forestry. In the US in 2016, managed forests and other lands have absorbed more CO2 than they have produced offsetting 11% of our emissions.

So what can we do, not do, and decide, that will help reduce our CO2 emissions from these sources?
Junk bonds not junk laws! Let's raise money for infrastructure and help the rich get richer by funding these stake holds and investments.

Infrastructure production runs should be longer than alleged wars on the abstractions of wars on crime, drugs, and terror.

We need to manufacture, local "manufacturing" jobs, anyway.
 

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Take our concerns about the climate into the ballot box. Vote for candidates who show a similar concern and ambition to reduce CO2 emissions. The problems we face are dire and immediate. They require immediate, committed and bold action. Don't settle for lip service.
/----/ Take your concerns to the toilet and flush them nobody gives a rat's patoot about your Goreball Warming scam.
 

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What are the major sources of CO2 on the planet and what can we do, actively, passively or by simple choices to reduce those emissions and make it easier for our governments, at all levels, to reduce others.

First: sources and sinks: (Sources of Greenhouse Gas Emissions | US EPA and Inventory of U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Sinks | US EPA

1) Transportation. 28.5% of US emissions comes from fossil fuels powering our planes, trains and automobiles and ships and motorcycles and trucks and everything else with an ICE that rolls.
Don't use fossil-fueled vehicles. That includes electrically powered vehicles, too, because guess where the electricity comes from to charge those things. Hint: see #2 below.
That would leave bicycles and animals, both of which would not be suitable. Hint: see #3 and #5 below.
I guess you could walk.


2) Electricity Production. 28.4% of 2016 US emissions came from our power plants. Approximately 68% of our electrical energy is generated by coal, natural gas and other fossil fuels
Let's see, solar and wind-power, right? Except that neither of those has proved adequate to power larger urban communities. Unless you are willing to commit miles and miles to establish wind or solar "farms". So much for conservation of nature. Not to mention, no solar or wind power when the sun doesn't shine or the wind doesn't blow.

3) Industry. Approximately 22% of our greenhouse gas emissions come from industrial processes. The largest portion is the burning of fossil fuels for energy (the heat required for smelting iron, for instance), the next from processes that produce GHGs as a side product (eg, the manufacture of cement releases large quantities of CO2)
We could revert to pre-industrial social standards. Ooops, wouldn't work, see #5 below.

4) Commercial and residental. 11% of GHG emissions come primarily from fossil fuels burned to proiduce heat and handle waste
Those of us who actually do not use fossil fuels to heat our homes are typically using wood. Damned, that's worse than fossil fuels!! We could burn animal waste, oh, wait, see #5 below. Composting works to handle any biodegradable household waste but then we're faced with non-biodegradable stuff; plastic, glass, most synthetic composites...
I guess if we quit producing and using such materials (see #3 above), that would help decrease waste.


5) Agriculture> Roughly 9% of GHGs from from livestock [insert snickers for <12 crowd and Skookerasbil] soil decomposition and rice paddies
What do you think you're going to eat? Cows fart, so let's go vegetarian. Well then, how do you propose we produce and distribute sufficient plant material for everyone to eat? Ooops, we're stuck with #1 and #3 above and #6 below. Damned, this is getting difficult.

6) Land use and forestry. In the US in 2016, managed forests and other lands have absorbed more CO2 than they have produced offsetting 11% of our emissions.
Finally, some recognition that plants take in carbon and release oxygen. Funny, very little is written or spoken about this fact by the climate change alarmists.

So what can we do, not do, and decide, that will help reduce our CO2 emissions from these sources?
I had to parse that because there are a lot of questions and no simple, uncomplicated answers. All those things are interlocked and cannot really be separately treated. I would challenge anyone who feels that climate change is primarily the result of human action to lead the way and help decrease the human population. Take personal responsibility for the damage you do just by existing and leave us with one less human animal to worry about.

Since you pose these issues, what would you suggest be done?
 

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Drive vehicles with the smallest CO2 production possible. Back when gas shortages were real and people were actually shocked to be $3.00/gallon for gasoline, there was a move towards smaller, more fuel efficient cars. These days, such cars are going out of production because we've all told Detroit we love SUVs. However, the mileage ratings of SUVs have been improving. Hybrid and fully electric models are now available. The Mercedes GLE 550e gets 43 mpg combined and the GLC 350e achieves 56. Small sedans will continue to be available from foreign manufacturers: Toyota, Hyundai, BMW and so forth.

And, of course, there is always the humble bicycle...
...and how are your efforts on these suggestions coming along? We are moving toward larger vehicles now. Got a very sedentary population. Ride bikes, sure.
 

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Drive vehicles with the smallest CO2 production possible. Back when gas shortages were real and people were actually shocked to be $3.00/gallon for gasoline, there was a move towards smaller, more fuel efficient cars. These days, such cars are going out of production because we've all told Detroit we love SUVs. However, the mileage ratings of SUVs have been improving. Hybrid and fully electric models are now available. The Mercedes GLE 550e gets 43 mpg combined and the GLC 350e achieves 56. Small sedans will continue to be available from foreign manufacturers: Toyota, Hyundai, BMW and so forth.

And, of course, there is always the humble bicycle.
And we can all wear the same clothes too, Komrade
 

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CO2 emissions seem to come from big blue cities. I think Democrats should all ride bikes, grow their own food without fertilizers, turn down their heat five degrees in the winter and up five in the summer.
 

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Take our concerns about the climate into the ballot box. Vote for candidates who show a similar concern and ambition to reduce CO2 emissions. The problems we face are dire and immediate. They require immediate, committed and bold action. Don't settle for lip service.
I would bet all those categories have been reduced substantially in US. Everything in Transportation sector has seen reductions right down to your garbage truck which now runs on propane in many places.
 

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CO2 emissions seem to come from big blue cities. I think Democrats should all ride bikes, grow their own food without fertilizers, turn down their heat five degrees in the winter and up five in the summer.
Almost entire Ne runs on liquid coal......fuel oil in winter to heat,,,,,,shame...
 
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Take our concerns about the climate into the ballot box. Vote for candidates who show a similar concern and ambition to reduce CO2 emissions. The problems we face are dire and immediate. They require immediate, committed and bold action. Don't settle for lip service.
I would bet all those categories have been reduced substantially in US. Everything in Transportation sector has seen reductions right down to your garbage truck which now runs on propane in many places.
They were reduced when congress and the presidency were pushing for such changes. That has not been the situtation, however, for the last two years.
 
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CO2 emissions seem to come from big blue cities. I think Democrats should all ride bikes, grow their own food without fertilizers, turn down their heat five degrees in the winter and up five in the summer.
Almost entire Ne runs on liquid coal......fuel oil in winter to heat,,,,,,shame...
A significant portion of the population believes that liquid coal and "clean coal" improve CO2 emissions. Of course they do not. They do reduce particulates and sulfides, but they have absolutely no impact on CO2 emissions.
 

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Take our concerns about the climate into the ballot box. Vote for candidates who show a similar concern and ambition to reduce CO2 emissions. The problems we face are dire and immediate. They require immediate, committed and bold action. Don't settle for lip service.
I would bet all those categories have been reduced substantially in US. Everything in Transportation sector has seen reductions right down to your garbage truck which now runs on propane in many places.
They were reduced when congress and the presidency were pushing for such changes. That has not been the situtation, however, for the last two years.
Wrong......posted US is on track with its Paris reductions without govt interference...same way we hit our Kyoto goals.
 

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Take our concerns about the climate into the ballot box. Vote for candidates who show a similar concern and ambition to reduce CO2 emissions. The problems we face are dire and immediate. They require immediate, committed and bold action. Don't settle for lip service.
I would bet all those categories have been reduced substantially in US. Everything in Transportation sector has seen reductions right down to your garbage truck which now runs on propane in many places.
They were reduced when congress and the presidency were pushing for such changes. That has not been the situtation, however, for the last two years.
Because global warning by people is a made up thing.
 

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