There Will Not Be A Palestinian State

[Coyote]

'There will be no Palestinian state here'

This says it all !!!!

They clearly do not recognize the rights of the Palestinians for self determination. So as they spread the settlements what are they going to do with the Palestinians who’s land they take?

Look st Olmert’s offer and tell us why it was rejected. Even if there was a agreement, please tell us why ;
1) No Israelis allowed
2) Why they formally declared the Western Wall will be off limits if they had control
Bet there will NOT be a response

Olmert could not have delivered. Still they should have excepted it.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: There Will Not Be A Palestinian State
⁜→ Coyote, et al,

All these various news report on the Israeli - Palestinian work on an agreement (peace offer made by Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert) are convoluted. They are not clear or concise.

'There will be no Palestinian state here'

This says it all !!!!

They clearly do not recognize the rights of the Palestinians for self determination. So as they spread the settlements what are they going to do with the Palestinians who’s land they take?

Look st Olmert’s offer and tell us why it was rejected. Even if there was a agreement, please tell us why ;
1) No Israelis allowed
2) Why they formally declared the Western Wall will be off limits if they had control
Bet there will NOT be a response

Olmert could not have delivered. Still they should have excepted it.

(COMMENT)

I'm not sure that we understand the actual proposal and the after-effects of the negoiation after the inital offering.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

'There will be no Palestinian state here'

This says it all !!!!

They clearly do not recognize the rights of the Palestinians for self determination. So as they spread the settlements what are they going to do with the Palestinians who’s land they take?

Look st Olmert’s offer and tell us why it was rejected. Even if there was a agreement, please tell us why ;
1) No Israelis allowed
2) Why they formally declared the Western Wall will be off limits if they had control
Bet there will NOT be a response

Olmert offered bantustans.

 

[Hollie]

'There will be no Palestinian state here'

This says it all !!!!

They clearly do not recognize the rights of the Palestinians for self determination. So as they spread the settlements what are they going to do with the Palestinians who’s land they take?

Look st Olmert’s offer and tell us why it was rejected. Even if there was a agreement, please tell us why ;
1) No Israelis allowed
2) Why they formally declared the Western Wall will be off limits if they had control
Bet there will NOT be a response

Olmert offered bantustans.

Nonsense.

 

[rylah]

'There will be no Palestinian state here'

This says it all !!!!

They clearly do not recognize the rights of the Palestinians for self determination. So as they spread the settlements what are they going to do with the Palestinians who’s land they take?

Look st Olmert’s offer and tell us why it was rejected. Even if there was a agreement, please tell us why ;
1) No Israelis allowed
2) Why they formally declared the Western Wall will be off limits if they had control
Bet there will NOT be a response

Olmert offered bantustans.

I don't remember Olmert suggested to create another Judenrhein state,
ironically that seems to be the only demand that both of the warring Arab fractions consistently agree upon.

Before accusing others of Your own racism, pull that swastika sticking out of Your ass.

 

[USAF 2023]

'There will be no Palestinian state here'

This says it all !!!!

They clearly do not recognize the rights of the Palestinians for self determination. So as they spread the settlements what are they going to do with the Palestinians who’s land they take?

Look st Olmert’s offer and tell us why it was rejected. Even if there was a agreement, please tell us why ;
1) No Israelis allowed
2) Why they formally declared the Western Wall will be off limits if they had control
Bet there will NOT be a response

Olmert could not have delivered. Still they should have excepted it.

How do you know he couldn’t have delivered? That “ explanation “ is just an excuse

 

[USAF 2023]

'There will be no Palestinian state here'

This says it all !!!!

They clearly do not recognize the rights of the Palestinians for self determination. So as they spread the settlements what are they going to do with the Palestinians who’s land they take?

Look st Olmert’s offer and tell us why it was rejected. Even if there was a agreement, please tell us why ;
1) No Israelis allowed
2) Why they formally declared the Western Wall will be off limits if they had control
Bet there will NOT be a response

Olmert offered bantustans.

Nonsense.

Ask what he means by that remark and you will not get a response.

 

[USAF 2023]

'There will be no Palestinian state here'

This says it all !!!!

They clearly do not recognize the rights of the Palestinians for self determination. So as they spread the settlements what are they going to do with the Palestinians who’s land they take?

Look st Olmert’s offer and tell us why it was rejected. Even if there was a agreement, please tell us why ;
1) No Israelis allowed
2) Why they formally declared the Western Wall will be off limits if they had control
Bet there will NOT be a response

Olmert offered bantustans.

I don't remember Olmert suggested to create another Judenrhein state,
ironically that seems to be the only demand that both of the warring Arab fractions consistently agree upon.

Before accusing others of Your own racism, pull that swastika sticking out of Your ass.

When challenged as to Abbas Policies RE; No Israelis in “ Palestine “ or the Western Wall there is no response. Just imagine him getting more frustrated and angry that the Jewish state exits

 

[P F Tinmore]

'There will be no Palestinian state here'

This says it all !!!!

They clearly do not recognize the rights of the Palestinians for self determination. So as they spread the settlements what are they going to do with the Palestinians who’s land they take?

Look st Olmert’s offer and tell us why it was rejected. Even if there was a agreement, please tell us why ;
1) No Israelis allowed
2) Why they formally declared the Western Wall will be off limits if they had control
Bet there will NOT be a response

Olmert offered bantustans.

I don't remember Olmert suggested to create another Judenrhein state,
ironically that seems to be the only demand that both of the warring Arab fractions consistently agree upon.

Before accusing others of Your own racism, pull that swastika sticking out of Your ass.

Deflection.

 

[P F Tinmore]

'There will be no Palestinian state here'

This says it all !!!!

They clearly do not recognize the rights of the Palestinians for self determination. So as they spread the settlements what are they going to do with the Palestinians who’s land they take?

Look st Olmert’s offer and tell us why it was rejected. Even if there was a agreement, please tell us why ;
1) No Israelis allowed
2) Why they formally declared the Western Wall will be off limits if they had control
Bet there will NOT be a response

Olmert offered bantustans.

Nonsense.

Ask what he means by that remark and you will not get a response.

Did I stutter?

 

[Shusha]

'There will be no Palestinian state here'

This says it all !!!!

They clearly do not recognize the rights of the Palestinians for self determination. So as they spread the settlements what are they going to do with the Palestinians who’s land they take?

Look st Olmert’s offer and tell us why it was rejected. Even if there was a agreement, please tell us why ;
1) No Israelis allowed
2) Why they formally declared the Western Wall will be off limits if they had control
Bet there will NOT be a response

Olmert offered bantustans.

Nonsense.

Ask what he means by that remark and you will not get a response.

He means that no amount of self-determination by the Arab Palestinians will prevent his insistence that the Arab Palestinians are not "poor, helpless, tragic victims" of Jews and as long as Jews exist he will continue to blame them for every failure of the Arabs.

 

[rylah]

'There will be no Palestinian state here'

This says it all !!!!

They clearly do not recognize the rights of the Palestinians for self determination. So as they spread the settlements what are they going to do with the Palestinians who’s land they take?

Look st Olmert’s offer and tell us why it was rejected. Even if there was a agreement, please tell us why ;
1) No Israelis allowed
2) Why they formally declared the Western Wall will be off limits if they had control
Bet there will NOT be a response

Olmert offered bantustans.

I don't remember Olmert suggested to create another Judenrhein state,
ironically that seems to be the only demand that both of the warring Arab fractions consistently agree upon.

Before accusing others of Your own racism, pull that swastika sticking out of Your ass.

Deflection.

No counter argument followed.
I accept Your defeat.

There won't be another Jihado-Nazi state.

 

[Hollie]

Did I stutter?

And mumble. Yes. You did.

You sweeping miss the point that the past history of those negotiating on behalf of the Arabs-Moslems have been the dictators of the mini-caliphates (welfare fraud syndicates) that have made them incredibly wealthy. Arafat and Abbas were / are the very people who have an interest in maintaining the UNRWA welfare fraud. They get wealthier with each welfare fraud paycheck they get from the international community.

UNRWA has become little more than an endowment to each succeeding Islamic terrorist dictator who control the welfare money. There has simply been no rational reason for the Islamic terrorist dictators to accept the responsibility of managing a working government when they are showered with kuffar cash they can stuff into foreign banks.

 

[USAF 2023]

They clearly do not recognize the rights of the Palestinians for self determination. So as they spread the settlements what are they going to do with the Palestinians who’s land they take?

Look st Olmert’s offer and tell us why it was rejected. Even if there was a agreement, please tell us why ;
1) No Israelis allowed
2) Why they formally declared the Western Wall will be off limits if they had control
Bet there will NOT be a response

Olmert offered bantustans.

Nonsense.

Ask what he means by that remark and you will not get a response.

Did I stutter?

YAWN..,,,, Deflection.

 

[Coyote]

'There will be no Palestinian state here'

This says it all !!!!

They clearly do not recognize the rights of the Palestinians for self determination. So as they spread the settlements what are they going to do with the Palestinians who’s land they take?

Look st Olmert’s offer and tell us why it was rejected. Even if there was a agreement, please tell us why ;
1) No Israelis allowed
2) Why they formally declared the Western Wall will be off limits if they had control
Bet there will NOT be a response

Olmert could not have delivered. Still they should have excepted it.

How do you know he couldn’t have delivered? That “ explanation “ is just an excuse

He was under investigation for corruption and politicallty weak for one, and for another there elements that would have been politically contentious. Do you honestly think it would have passed?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Did I stutter?

And mumble. Yes. You did.

You sweeping miss the point that the past history of those negotiating on behalf of the Arabs-Moslems have been the dictators of the mini-caliphates (welfare fraud syndicates) that have made them incredibly wealthy. Arafat and Abbas were / are the very people who have an interest in maintaining the UNRWA welfare fraud. They get wealthier with each welfare fraud paycheck they get from the international community.

UNRWA has become little more than an endowment to each succeeding Islamic terrorist dictator who control the welfare money. There has simply been no rational reason for the Islamic terrorist dictators to accept the responsibility of managing a working government when they are showered with kuffar cash they can stuff into foreign banks.

UNRWA has become little more than an endowment to each succeeding Islamic terrorist dictator who control the welfare money.

UNRWA does not hand cash.

 

[Mindful]

Could be useful to peruse the Ottoman Land Registration Laws.


Ottoman Land Registration Law as a Contributing Factor in the Israeli-Arab Conflict | Congregation Beth El–Keser Israel

 

[Hollie]

Did I stutter?

And mumble. Yes. You did.

You sweeping miss the point that the past history of those negotiating on behalf of the Arabs-Moslems have been the dictators of the mini-caliphates (welfare fraud syndicates) that have made them incredibly wealthy. Arafat and Abbas were / are the very people who have an interest in maintaining the UNRWA welfare fraud. They get wealthier with each welfare fraud paycheck they get from the international community.

UNRWA has become little more than an endowment to each succeeding Islamic terrorist dictator who control the welfare money. There has simply been no rational reason for the Islamic terrorist dictators to accept the responsibility of managing a working government when they are showered with kuffar cash they can stuff into foreign banks.

UNRWA has become little more than an endowment to each succeeding Islamic terrorist dictator who control the welfare money.

UNRWA does not hand cash.

It’s a bloated Islamic terrorist welfare fraud scheme.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: There Will Not Be A Palestinian State
⁜→ Hollie, P F Tinmore, et al,

SOURCE: In the words of Lt. Gen. Alexander Galloway, then the director of UNRWA in Jordan, in 1952:

It is perfectly clear that Arab nations do not want to solve the Arab refugee problem. They want to keep it as an open sore, as an affront against the United Nations and as a weapon against Israel. Arab leaders don’t give a damn whether the refugees live or die.​

Did I stutter?

And mumble. Yes. You did.

You sweeping miss the point that the past history of those negotiating on behalf of the Arabs-Moslems have been the dictators of the mini-caliphates (welfare fraud syndicates) that have made them incredibly wealthy. Arafat and Abbas were / are the very people who have an interest in maintaining the UNRWA welfare fraud. They get wealthier with each welfare fraud paycheck they get from the international community.

UNRWA has become little more than an endowment to each succeeding Islamic terrorist dictator who control the welfare money. There has simply been no rational reason for the Islamic terrorist dictators to accept the responsibility of managing a working government when they are showered with kuffar cash they can stuff into foreign banks.

UNRWA has become little more than an endowment to each succeeding Islamic terrorist dictator who control the welfare money.

UNRWA does not hand cash.

It’s a bloated Islamic terrorist welfare fraud scheme.

(COMMENT)

In the beginning, the concept of the UNRWA was an honorable venture. But in the seven decades since its inception, it has the expanded its mission beyond its original goals, often with no corresponding success. Some people refer to this as Mission Creep.

• 1948 Palestinian exodus: 711,000 (estimated)
• 1950 ≈ 750,000 Palestine refugees
  
• 1948 refugees still alive (2012): 30,000 to 50,000 (estimated)
  • In 2018, life expectancy at birth for Palestine was 73.82 years. Life expectancy at birth of Palestine increased from 73.3 years in 2015 to 73.82 years in 2018 growing at an average annual rate of 0.24 %.
  • Year 2018 - Year 1948 = 70 years
• Descendants (2012): 4,950,000 (estimated)

There are nearly (≈) 100 times as many descendants today as there are living refugees “persons whose normal place of residence was Palestine during the period 1 June 1946 to 15 May 1948, and who lost both home and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 conflict.”

This is the biggest scam in the Refugee Program that could ever be imagined. There is no question that our friend "Hollie" is correct.

The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA), as opposed to The Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), has lost nearly all its credibility. The UNRWA has reintegrated, repatriated, and/or resettled almost no Arab Palestinian Refugees in it 70 years of operation. "During its lifetime, the UNHCR has helped 50(+) million refugees to successfully restart their lives."

The difference between the outcomes of the two agencies is so different, as to make any comparison impossible. The UNRWA has been totally unsuccessful.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: There Will Not Be A Palestinian State
⁜→ Hollie, P F Tinmore, et al,

SOURCE: In the words of Lt. Gen. Alexander Galloway, then the director of UNRWA in Jordan, in 1952:

It is perfectly clear that Arab nations do not want to solve the Arab refugee problem. They want to keep it as an open sore, as an affront against the United Nations and as a weapon against Israel. Arab leaders don’t give a damn whether the refugees live or die.​

Did I stutter?

And mumble. Yes. You did.

You sweeping miss the point that the past history of those negotiating on behalf of the Arabs-Moslems have been the dictators of the mini-caliphates (welfare fraud syndicates) that have made them incredibly wealthy. Arafat and Abbas were / are the very people who have an interest in maintaining the UNRWA welfare fraud. They get wealthier with each welfare fraud paycheck they get from the international community.

UNRWA has become little more than an endowment to each succeeding Islamic terrorist dictator who control the welfare money. There has simply been no rational reason for the Islamic terrorist dictators to accept the responsibility of managing a working government when they are showered with kuffar cash they can stuff into foreign banks.

UNRWA has become little more than an endowment to each succeeding Islamic terrorist dictator who control the welfare money.

UNRWA does not hand cash.

It’s a bloated Islamic terrorist welfare fraud scheme.

(COMMENT)

In the beginning, the concept of the UNRWA was an honorable venture. But in the seven decades since its inception, it has the expanded its mission beyond its original goals, often with no corresponding success. Some people refer to this as Mission Creep.

• 1948 Palestinian exodus: 711,000 (estimated)
• 1950 ≈ 750,000 Palestine refugees
  
• 1948 refugees still alive (2012): 30,000 to 50,000 (estimated)
  • In 2018, life expectancy at birth for Palestine was 73.82 years. Life expectancy at birth of Palestine increased from 73.3 years in 2015 to 73.82 years in 2018 growing at an average annual rate of 0.24 %.
  • Year 2018 - Year 1948 = 70 years
• Descendants (2012): 4,950,000 (estimated)

There are nearly (≈) 100 times as many descendants today as there are living refugees “persons whose normal place of residence was Palestine during the period 1 June 1946 to 15 May 1948, and who lost both home and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 conflict.”

This is the biggest scam in the Refugee Program that could ever be imagined. There is no question that our friend "Hollie" is correct.

The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA), as opposed to The Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), has lost nearly all its credibility. The UNRWA has reintegrated, repatriated, and/or resettled almost no Arab Palestinian Refugees in it 70 years of operation. "During its lifetime, the UNHCR has helped 50(+) million refugees to successfully restart their lives."

The difference between the outcomes of the two agencies is so different, as to make any comparison impossible. The UNRWA has been totally unsuccessful.

Most Respectfully,
R

The UNRWA has reintegrated, repatriated, and/or resettled almost no Arab Palestinian Refugees in it 70 years of operation.

The UNRWA is an aid agency only. It has no authority to integrate or repatriate refugees.