There will be no unity until Trump's seditionists are no more.

[HereWeGoAgain]

Steve Schmidt said it so eloquently. There will be no unity with seditionists.

After their terrorist attack on the country, unity is only possible with accountability. That's the only way moving forward. Not only is accountability imperative, it is necessary if we are to hold onto this Democracy. If the Right thinks this country is simply going to sweep this terrorist attack under the rug, think again.

The future looks long and dismal since it will probably be another 70-80 years before the last Trump supporters take their last breath or forget the way he was mistreated these last four years.

Fuck off noob.

Wow, are we having a bad night or what? Got those losing blues huh? Between your racism and those losing blues, you're going to be one sour Toadie for the next four years eh?

Good God can y’all present one argument without trying to use the race card. Actually I was just say people don’t forget bad behavior easily.

I didn't play the race card, the other poster brought it into the debate. He usually does. Just keep up with his posts in the future. You'll see.

Says one of the biggest racist on USMB.

For either side of the argument it is not very flattering or productive. Until we learn to have a civil conversation America will remain on the brink of destruction. How can you build a nation when you are tearing down your fellow countrymen. Both sides need to stop being the victim and accept you and only you command your future. This country is big enough for the two of you.

There's no working with the dem party of today.
I remember the days when the dems and repubs could work together they just had a different way to reach the same goal.
Now the goals are at opposite spectrums....socialism vs Conservatism.
I see no way we can work together.

Maybe not today but we need to learn to be civil no matter how much we disagree. If we look at life strictly through the party lens then we are doomed. We both have to breathe we both need to nurture our families we both need to eat. Bottom line we are the same. We just need to learn what we agree on and learn to disagree without insults.

Would you have felt the need to be civil with Mao?
How about Hitler,or maybe Chaves? Would you have encouraged the Jews to be civil in Nazi Germany?
These aren't people you can reason with anymore.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

There will be no unity with seditionists.

Don't exclude yourself from that. There will be no unity with people like you either. You're simply the opposite end of the extreme.

Are you so cynical as to think all our political is reduced to extremes? Can you accept that most Americans prefer a centrist approach, not seditious "proud Boys" racism or anti--fan radical anarchy?

Biden inclusiveness not Trump nationalism.

Seditionists don't care about democracy. Most Americans do.

With friends like seditionists, why are you afraid of AOC? Which one poses the greater threat to democracy?

If you think dems are centrist you're an idiot.

If you think 75,000,000 votes were cast in support of one narrow political ideology, or that Democrats don' contain a variety of political thought and faction, you are either not paying attention or have succumbed to prropagandistic brainwashing.

Such ossified thinking cannot offer solutions and shouldn't weigh in on the momentous problems we face today. In fact, such thiinking lays squarely at the center of our problems.


Do I you know what makes this huge, diverse nation so great? Our mastery at the art of political compromise. One party rule has never, and will.never.serve a form of government of, by and for free people.

Fuck compromising with commies!!!
And your spelling is atrocious.

And your lies are disgusting. What commies? Do you even know what a communist is?

Absolutely....biden is the epitome of a commie.
After all,the CCP owns him.

Hate to break it to you but over 80 million people didn't believe you. And now, through misdeeds and isurrection attempt, it appears that the GOP, as it stands now, is in the process of being defunded. After all the defunding that you clowns attempted (and in some cases were successful) I think karma is here to bite your in the ass.

I dont think things are going to turn out like you think.

Probably a lot closer that what the anarchist wannabes are thinking. Might be harder to even maintain propaganda levels necessary to keep the right wing sheep indoctrinated with lies, as conspiracy and false stories even about election fraud have dropped 73% since the twitter and facebook bans went into effect by one report.

Online misinformation about the US election fell 73% after Trump's social media ban

Online misinformation about the US election fell 73% after Trump's social media ban

Trump blasted out baseless claims of election fraud before and after losing the fight to President-elect Joe Biden.

www.businessinsider.in

Why would you believe the MSM about anything?

Saw it live, in color. Seen the vids of the protestors smiling for their own cameras, you know, reality. Reality isn't for interpretation. It is not handed down or decided from above. Not about how you feel about it inside, or what others describe it to be. Reality is real, in and of itself. Try Lenard Piekhoff lecturing live at the Fordham on Objectivist Philosophy if you can find a copy.

Correct that reality is not open for interpretation.
But the obvious reality is the protestors WERE NON-VIOLENT.
They were not shooting people.
The people who were indiscriminately shooting and killing people, WERE the POLICE.
With the demonstrators, I only saw some petty misdemeanors like vandalism.
From the police I saw deliberate murder of people not involved in any criminal acts at all.
That is the objective reality, and there is no way to alter that fact.

Don't be silly. Barricades were breached. Doors were forced open, sometimes with security being forced back by overwhelming numbers and beating of some of the security in the process, including on Capital Police officer that later died. Glass was broken out and insurrectionists (urged to go to the Capital by trump) attempted to climb past, as where the woman was shot in the attempt. Do not attempt to minimized and describe reality as it was live cast. Reality is Real.

More bullshit.
Surely you've seen the videos of Capitol police moving the barricades and waving the people in.

 

[MadDog]

No, there are not.
I have watched all the videos there are.
Not once was there any indication of more than an intent to protest.
If there had been, then there would have not only been more weapons, but also more dead cops.
There were very few crimes considering, and they amount to misdemeanor vandalism only.

I’d be willing to bet you are lying when you say you’ve watched ALL the videos there are. Have you seen the videos of the rioters using coordinated military tactics such as the ”Ranger File.” Have you seen the video of the guy who brought home made napalm.

Using coordinated military tactics and carrying guns (yes there were some guns there) pretty much show that there is clear evidence of intent to do more than just protest. And as investigations continue, hopefully you’ll take the time to watch the story unfold.

 

[White 6]

There will be no unity with seditionists.

Don't exclude yourself from that. There will be no unity with people like you either. You're simply the opposite end of the extreme.

Are you so cynical as to think all our political is reduced to extremes? Can you accept that most Americans prefer a centrist approach, not seditious "proud Boys" racism or anti--fan radical anarchy?

Biden inclusiveness not Trump nationalism.

Seditionists don't care about democracy. Most Americans do.

With friends like seditionists, why are you afraid of AOC? Which one poses the greater threat to democracy?

If you think dems are centrist you're an idiot.

If you think 75,000,000 votes were cast in support of one narrow political ideology, or that Democrats don' contain a variety of political thought and faction, you are either not paying attention or have succumbed to prropagandistic brainwashing.

Such ossified thinking cannot offer solutions and shouldn't weigh in on the momentous problems we face today. In fact, such thiinking lays squarely at the center of our problems.


Do I you know what makes this huge, diverse nation so great? Our mastery at the art of political compromise. One party rule has never, and will.never.serve a form of government of, by and for free people.

Fuck compromising with commies!!!
And your spelling is atrocious.

And your lies are disgusting. What commies? Do you even know what a communist is?

Absolutely....biden is the epitome of a commie.
After all,the CCP owns him.

Hate to break it to you but over 80 million people didn't believe you. And now, through misdeeds and isurrection attempt, it appears that the GOP, as it stands now, is in the process of being defunded. After all the defunding that you clowns attempted (and in some cases were successful) I think karma is here to bite your in the ass.

I dont think things are going to turn out like you think.

Probably a lot closer that what the anarchist wannabes are thinking. Might be harder to even maintain propaganda levels necessary to keep the right wing sheep indoctrinated with lies, as conspiracy and false stories even about election fraud have dropped 73% since the twitter and facebook bans went into effect by one report.

Online misinformation about the US election fell 73% after Trump's social media ban

Online misinformation about the US election fell 73% after Trump's social media ban

Trump blasted out baseless claims of election fraud before and after losing the fight to President-elect Joe Biden.

www.businessinsider.in

Why would you believe the MSM about anything?

Saw it live, in color. Seen the vids of the protestors smiling for their own cameras, you know, reality. Reality isn't for interpretation. It is not handed down or decided from above. Not about how you feel about it inside, or what others describe it to be. Reality is real, in and of itself. Try Lenard Piekhoff lecturing live at the Fordham on Objectivist Philosophy if you can find a copy.

Correct that reality is not open for interpretation.
But the obvious reality is the protestors WERE NON-VIOLENT.
They were not shooting people.
The people who were indiscriminately shooting and killing people, WERE the POLICE.
With the demonstrators, I only saw some petty misdemeanors like vandalism.
From the police I saw deliberate murder of people not involved in any criminal acts at all.
That is the objective reality, and there is no way to alter that fact.

Don't be silly. Barricades were breached. Doors were forced open, sometimes with security being forced back by overwhelming numbers and beating of some of the security in the process, including on Capital Police officer that later died. Glass was broken out and insurrectionists (urged to go to the Capital by trump) attempted to climb past, as where the woman was shot in the attempt. Do not attempt to minimized and describe reality as it was live cast. Reality is Real.

More bullshit.
Surely you've seen the videos of Capitol police moving the barricades and waving the people in.

I understand those people are being arrested also, which suits me fine.

 

[9thIDdoc]

"If you need thousands of troops for your inauguration, then you were likely not elected by the people."

Opinion: The Increased National Guard Presence In DC Is Meant To Show Republicans The Future Against Dissent - WayneDupree.com

OPINION | This article contains commentary which reflects the author’s opinion. A legitimate President would not need to be sworn in under the protection of 25,000 armed soldiers. This is how elections work in Venezuela. No, the Democrats are putting on a show of power, get that, power. They are...

www.waynedupree.com

Dump lost by about 8 million votes. Biden won the popular and the electoral vote. Anyone with a functioning brain would know Biden was elected by the people.

Mighty convenient timing for a sudden change of heart from people who for 4 fucking years whined about Russia's election interference. Whatever happened to that big-talk about burning the whole damn system to the ground?

When have you ever heard me say anything about burning anything to the ground? Dump helped the Russians. They couldnt pin him down but anyone with a brain knows he colluded with them.

Suddenly it's tantamount to treason to question election integrity or stage protests. Even though the vast majority of the tens of thousands of DC protesters remained "mostly peaceful", that old excuse just ain't gonna cut it anymore. Like I said, this sudden shift in tone is mighty convenient.

You can question all you want to. You can decide not to believe the republican voting officials that said the election was fair. You can disbelieve all the republican appointed judges that laughed Dumps suits out the court due to lack of evidence. You can do all that but if you fuck up and try to overturn the results you will be dealt with harshly.

If only the accusation of "sedition" was limited specifically to the people who actually broke into the capitol building and committed actual crimes but in reality there's a broad brush smear campaign against a huge swathe of Americans who did nothing wrong.

If a person supports the breaking into the capital, they are just as morally reprehensible and anti-American as those that did. They just were not able to go, as lacked transportation, time off their day job, no baby sitter, etc.. Then again, the may just lack the courage of their convictions, so it is unlikely they will be convicted.

Then by your standards I am just as morally reprehensible and anti-American (at least anti your Big Brother version of America) as those that protested and dam proud of it. I don't recall any outrage from you when antifa and blm staged much more violent protests on public property. Have you forgotten that public property belongs to the people which is why it is known a "public" property. They bought it, they paid for it and I don't think "trespassing" on it is any very serious crime. Where was your "anti-America" bullshit when real thugs decided to make several city blocks of an American city their private domain? They invaded a part of my Country and had they tried to stop me from my legal use of public property a war would have started right then. It was far more morally reprehensible and anti-American for the involved officials to just cede what they were sworn and legally required to protect. Somehow I don't find Americans who are innocent of any crime not being convicted to be a bad thing.

There you go. Just not willing to live by the laws the rest of us support, eh? I do not live in the crap cities where the mayors and governor put up with the disgraceful destructive and in some cases deadly riots. I promise not to spend my tourism dollars in any of those lawless places and certainly would not live in one. As an American citizen, I claim the right to not have my Capital Building attacked by anti constitution, anti-law and order right wing extremists. Portland is not my city. Washington DC Capital hill area belongs to all loyal American. Traitorous scum need not visit. There are rules and laws reguarding every bit of public land, and monuments in this country and that includes the Capital Building. You do not have the right to do as you please in these places as if you are entitled breaking, attack, and destroy to get your way after you lose an election. Plain as that. If you can't handle being a decent citizen, don't expect anybody to treat you as one or say nice calm supportive things to you or about you. You are not a little child and we do not favor babying you until you calm down. We're talking about Washington DC, not the state of Washington. Suck it up and act better.

"As an American citizen, I claim the right to not have my Capital Building attacked by anti constitution, anti-law and order right wing extremists."
Great. Then you should be happy that it wasn't. You should stop being a pouty lil bitch and admit that the people who went into the capitol own it just as much as you do. Own it just as much as the rent-a-cop who used a flimsy pathetic excuse to shoot down an innocent unarmed American citizen for the alleged crime of trespass. Have you condemned his moral repugnance? I don't think so. Have you condemned any other of the many other demonstrations and/or violent riots that have taken place there? I doubt it. But you do presume to condemn everybody everywhere who presumes to have a POV different than your own.
Nobody cares what city or State or district you live in. We are talking about America. Any attack on any part of it is as much an attack on America and Americans as an attack on any other part. Even Portland. You're just a child having a screaming shit-fit because someone dared to have an opinion you didn't authorize. Grow up.

You should watch the news. Characterizing a violent mob as anything other than an attack, shown live and verified afterwards will do no good. Suck it up, buttercup.

Nah.
I watched it, and it looked more like a grade school, playground, shoving match.
No one was trying to harm anyone from the demonstrator side.
The police however, WERE illegally trying to harm, to the point they were shooting indiscriminately at innocent people.
Clearly only the police violated felony laws and need to be arrested.

Everyone in that building who was not invited, should have been shot dead. Period! They attacked this country.

So they should have gunned down all the BLM rioters....

Why would they do that? Most of those people were protesting legally on public property. The Trump terrorists were not.

Were they? Maybe because lots of them were NOT protesting legally on public poperty but were rioting, looting, and committing assorted acts of destruction and mayhem and terrorism and insurrection on private and public property alike. The vast majority of the DC protestors did protest legally on public property (which includes the Capitol no matter how many commies on this site think only they should have the right to decide who should be in the building or not). And BTW there is tons of TV footage of them doing it. The antifa/blm terrorists who captured and held part of Portland purely deserve to be hung by the neck until dead dead dead and rotted.

 

[beagle9]

Good video.... A great truth.

 

[Bryan Luhning]

Steve Schmidt said it so eloquently. There will be no unity with seditionists.

After their terrorist attack on the country, unity is only possible with accountability. That's the only way moving forward. Not only is accountability imperative, it is necessary if we are to hold onto this Democracy. If the Right thinks this country is simply going to sweep this terrorist attack under the rug, think again.

The future looks long and dismal since it will probably be another 70-80 years before the last Trump supporters take their last breath or forget the way he was mistreated these last four years.

Fuck off noob.

Wow, are we having a bad night or what? Got those losing blues huh? Between your racism and those losing blues, you're going to be one sour Toadie for the next four years eh?

Good God can y’all present one argument without trying to use the race card. Actually I was just say people don’t forget bad behavior easily.

I didn't play the race card, the other poster brought it into the debate. He usually does. Just keep up with his posts in the future. You'll see.

Says one of the biggest racist on USMB.

For either side of the argument it is not very flattering or productive. Until we learn to have a civil conversation America will remain on the brink of destruction. How can you build a nation when you are tearing down your fellow countrymen. Both sides need to stop being the victim and accept you and only you command your future. This country is big enough for the two of you.

There's no working with the dem party of today.
I remember the days when the dems and repubs could work together they just had a different way to reach the same goal.
Now the goals are at opposite spectrums....socialism vs Conservatism.
I see no way we can work together.

Maybe not today but we need to learn to be civil no matter how much we disagree. If we look at life strictly through the party lens then we are doomed. We both have to breathe we both need to nurture our families we both need to eat. Bottom line we are the same. We just need to learn what we agree on and learn to disagree without insults.

Would you have felt the need to be civil with Mao?
How about Hitler,or maybe Chaves? Would you have encouraged the Jews to be civil in Nazi Germany?
These aren't people you can reason with anymore.

Those are a few, but I doubt that ninety percent of the people of the country were as evil as the despots you referenced. I would hate to think that all these posters perceive themselves as that evil. But if you push people’s buttons they will strike out to protect themselves. We are evolved to either fight or run from danger. When you are fighting an unknown person form your safe place it is easy to let loose all social norms we have been taught through life. But if you cannot self police your anger and need to lash out maybe this is the wrong medium for your entertainment. If you truly want to have people lash out at you with vile personal attacks the my entire post is wrong. I hope in the end people want to engage in meaningful dialogue and seek solutions to the many problems we face each day together.

 

[Street Juice]

Spoken as only a true fascist can speak.

The communists were the ones who eliminated "enemies of the people" on ideological grounds.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Steve Schmidt said it so eloquently. There will be no unity with seditionists.

After their terrorist attack on the country, unity is only possible with accountability. That's the only way moving forward. Not only is accountability imperative, it is necessary if we are to hold onto this Democracy. If the Right thinks this country is simply going to sweep this terrorist attack under the rug, think again.

The future looks long and dismal since it will probably be another 70-80 years before the last Trump supporters take their last breath or forget the way he was mistreated these last four years.

Fuck off noob.

Wow, are we having a bad night or what? Got those losing blues huh? Between your racism and those losing blues, you're going to be one sour Toadie for the next four years eh?

Good God can y’all present one argument without trying to use the race card. Actually I was just say people don’t forget bad behavior easily.

I didn't play the race card, the other poster brought it into the debate. He usually does. Just keep up with his posts in the future. You'll see.

Says one of the biggest racist on USMB.

For either side of the argument it is not very flattering or productive. Until we learn to have a civil conversation America will remain on the brink of destruction. How can you build a nation when you are tearing down your fellow countrymen. Both sides need to stop being the victim and accept you and only you command your future. This country is big enough for the two of you.

There's no working with the dem party of today.
I remember the days when the dems and repubs could work together they just had a different way to reach the same goal.
Now the goals are at opposite spectrums....socialism vs Conservatism.
I see no way we can work together.

Maybe not today but we need to learn to be civil no matter how much we disagree. If we look at life strictly through the party lens then we are doomed. We both have to breathe we both need to nurture our families we both need to eat. Bottom line we are the same. We just need to learn what we agree on and learn to disagree without insults.

Would you have felt the need to be civil with Mao?
How about Hitler,or maybe Chaves? Would you have encouraged the Jews to be civil in Nazi Germany?
These aren't people you can reason with anymore.

Those are a few, but I doubt that ninety percent of the people of the country were as evil as the despots you referenced. I would hate to think that all these posters perceive themselves as that evil. But if you push people’s buttons they will strike out to protect themselves. We are evolved to either fight or run from danger. When you are fighting an unknown person form your safe place it is easy to let loose all social norms we have been taught through life. But if you cannot self police your anger and need to lash out maybe this is the wrong medium for your entertainment. If you truly want to have people lash out at you with vile personal attacks the my entire post is wrong. I hope in the end people want to engage in meaningful dialogue and seek solutions to the many problems we face each day together.

The thing you dont seem to get is the vast majority of liberals in this country are too damn stupid,or they're complicit in what the dems really stand for.
Are you against the 2nd and the 1st Amendment?
Dems sure as hell are and there's no denying that.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Never more timely or in a more appropriate place.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Other Washington "attack"

 

[MadDog]

Spoken as only a true fascist can speak.

The communists were the ones who eliminated "enemies of the people" on ideological grounds.

Communists are they only ones to have purges?

 

[Rambunctious]

Steve Schmidt said it so eloquently. There will be no unity with seditionists.

After their terrorist attack on the country, unity is only possible with accountability. That's the only way moving forward. Not only is accountability imperative, it is necessary if we are to hold onto this Democracy. If the Right thinks this country is simply going to sweep this terrorist attack under the rug, think again.

Tell that bald headed fag boi to come and get me.....

 

[Bryan Luhning]

Steve Schmidt said it so eloquently. There will be no unity with seditionists.

After their terrorist attack on the country, unity is only possible with accountability. That's the only way moving forward. Not only is accountability imperative, it is necessary if we are to hold onto this Democracy. If the Right thinks this country is simply going to sweep this terrorist attack under the rug, think again.

The future looks long and dismal since it will probably be another 70-80 years before the last Trump supporters take their last breath or forget the way he was mistreated these last four years.

Fuck off noob.

Wow, are we having a bad night or what? Got those losing blues huh? Between your racism and those losing blues, you're going to be one sour Toadie for the next four years eh?

Good God can y’all present one argument without trying to use the race card. Actually I was just say people don’t forget bad behavior easily.

I didn't play the race card, the other poster brought it into the debate. He usually does. Just keep up with his posts in the future. You'll see.

Says one of the biggest racist on USMB.

For either side of the argument it is not very flattering or productive. Until we learn to have a civil conversation America will remain on the brink of destruction. How can you build a nation when you are tearing down your fellow countrymen. Both sides need to stop being the victim and accept you and only you command your future. This country is big enough for the two of you.

There's no working with the dem party of today.
I remember the days when the dems and repubs could work together they just had a different way to reach the same goal.
Now the goals are at opposite spectrums....socialism vs Conservatism.
I see no way we can work together.

Maybe not today but we need to learn to be civil no matter how much we disagree. If we look at life strictly through the party lens then we are doomed. We both have to breathe we both need to nurture our families we both need to eat. Bottom line we are the same. We just need to learn what we agree on and learn to disagree without insults.

Would you have felt the need to be civil with Mao?
How about Hitler,or maybe Chaves? Would you have encouraged the Jews to be civil in Nazi Germany?
These aren't people you can reason with anymore.

Those are a few, but I doubt that ninety percent of the people of the country were as evil as the despots you referenced. I would hate to think that all these posters perceive themselves as that evil. But if you push people’s buttons they will strike out to protect themselves. We are evolved to either fight or run from danger. When you are fighting an unknown person form your safe place it is easy to let loose all social norms we have been taught through life. But if you cannot self police your anger and need to lash out maybe this is the wrong medium for your entertainment. If you truly want to have people lash out at you with vile personal attacks the my entire post is wrong. I hope in the end people want to engage in meaningful dialogue and seek solutions to the many problems we face each day together.

The thing you dont seem to get is the vast majority of liberals in this country are too damn stupid,or they're complicit in what the dems really stand for.
Are you against the 2nd and the 1st Amendment?
Dems sure as hell are and there's no denying that.

Then try and convey to them why those to amendments are so important. Don’t start your argument with you need this because you’re to stupid to know you need this. Face it there are many Americans who have never put real food on their table to the ability to fend for themselves is strange. In some ways we need to relearn independence. Prepers may.be a little extreme but a little preparing would not hurt every American. Just look back at last spring and the toilet paper craziness. We need each other we need guns we need free speech but we also need self control. How do you think the conversations in this forum would end if we were face to face and armed to the hilt. Maybe we would be just a little more civilized.

 

[9thIDdoc]

1971

 

[MadDog]

Tell that bald headed fag boi to come and get me.....

I doubt that anyone cares about coming to get you. I doubt anyone cares you even exist.

 

[Bryan Luhning]

Spoken as only a true fascist can speak.

The communists were the ones who eliminated "enemies of the people" on ideological grounds.

Communists are they only ones to have purges?

You people do realize that communism, socialism and fascism are all variations of the same mindset. They all require tyranny to survive and all seek to enslave all but the very few.

 

[HenryBHough]

The program calls for all assembled to raise their right arms to 45-degrees (there will be troops measuring), palms down immediately upon Xiden utters the final words of his so-called oath.

Nothing need be spoken.

You are no longer to be heard.

Facebook/Twitter law takes immediate effect. You shall speak only when spoken to. Be prepared to wait a long, long time.

 

[Oldestyle]

Steve Schmidt said it so eloquently. There will be no unity with seditionists.

After their terrorist attack on the country, unity is only possible with accountability. That's the only way moving forward. Not only is accountability imperative, it is necessary if we are to hold onto this Democracy. If the Right thinks this country is simply going to sweep this terrorist attack under the rug, think again.

75 million Americans are now "seditionists"? You assholes on the left are foaming at the mouth because you stole an election and now think you can demonize anyone who opposes your agenda that's going to ruin this country! You want war? Be careful what you wish for...

 

[j-mac]

Good video.... A great truth.

Bravo! I couldn't say it any better....I would love to see an honest liberal progressive dispute Levin's points...He would shred them...