There is only one way to approach the resolve of the racial stratification problem.

[$ecular#eckler]

We need to have a constitutional convention that gathers the diversity of people that the founders and subsequent generations could not gather. The American legends that have been devised to lead us to believe that true justice is possible cannot be achieved under the direction of the 18th century three-part model. The exercise of the 1787 federal Constitution successfully lead to the end of slavery in America, and that was about all it was good for. The design of the government is inherently flawed, and cannot meet the demands of diversity that the nation has evolved to, nor the expectations of a relatively more sophisticated citizenry than the people of the 18th century.

White supremacy and systemic biases are not formulated into the social system. “Systemic biases,” are collateral dysfunction of the imperfect governing system that is in place guiding the society. Black people's encounters with racial prejudice is random, unpredictable, and an unfortunate product of social disorder that can only be rectified by reordering the government chartering system.

The three-part separation model is incorrectly deployed - there is not enough separate entities to correctly do the checks and balances. It should be obvious that the Justice Department should be a separate entity, but it is difficult to understand how to do that within the box of the three-part separation model of the three-level chartering system. Contrary to the popular rhetoric, the founders of the United States are not turning in their graves because of the misuse of the Constitution, but rather, because of the continued exercise of their inadequate formulation of the government. The expansion of the government security departments, and advanced technology, would direct the founders towards a more accurate design of just government. They would certainly not insist that their centuries-old design of a three-part separation system of checks and balances was peerless; and most likely, they would be quick to recognize that the partisan strategies that congest the legislative processes that lead to the social disorderliness that we endure is caused by the lack of an orderly system.

United States Fourth Continental Congress​

 

[Oddball]

.....nor the expectations of a relatively more sophisticated citizenry than the people of the 18th century.

Stopped reading this dreck right there.

If your entire premise for formulating your "solution" is that the knuckle dragging SJWs running around enforcing their speech and behavior codes upon the rest us are sophistcates, then I don't even know what to say.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

Probably do not need you. The primary intention is to inspire the people that are most likely to be inclined, talented, and skilled, to order the better government chartering system for the United States that provides for the more tranquil American society and ultimately the approach to world peace.

Most people are not going to be talented and skilled at composing directive systems - we are very few.

Like you, the Social Justice Warriors will probably not be talented and skilled either; but they do need to get some skin in the game. They need to understand how self government works. Do you understand how self government works, genius???

The keyword in the sentence that you highlighted is, "relatively."

 

[Mac-7]

Black people's encounters with racial prejudice is random, unpredictable,

it is neither random or unpredictable

failure to respect police authority up to and including fighting while resisting arrest will always lead to bad consequence for the civilian

 

[Oddball]

Probably do not need you. The primary intention is to inspire the people that are most likely to be inclined, talented, and skilled, to order the better government chartering system for the United States that provides for the more tranquil American society and ultimately the approach to world peace.

Most people are not going to be talented and skilled at composing directive systems - we are very few.

Like you, the Social Justice Warriors will probably not be talented and skilled either; but they do need to get some skin in the game. They need to understand how self government works. Do you understand how self government works, genius???

The keyword in the sentence that you highlighted is, "relatively."

I don't know if you've ever considered this, but snobbery isn't a very effective rapport builder.

 

[MarathonMike]

We need to have a constitutional convention that gathers the diversity of people that the founders and subsequent generations could not gather. The American legends that have been devised to lead us to believe that true justice is possible cannot be achieved under the direction of the 18th century three-part model. The exercise of the 1787 federal Constitution successfully lead to the end of slavery in America, and that was about all it was good for. The design of the government is inherently flawed, and cannot meet the demands of diversity that the nation has evolved to, nor the expectations of a relatively more sophisticated citizenry than the people of the 18th century.

White supremacy and systemic biases are not formulated into the social system. “Systemic biases,” are collateral dysfunction of the imperfect governing system that is in place guiding the society. Black people's encounters with racial prejudice is random, unpredictable, and an unfortunate product of social disorder that can only be rectified by reordering the government chartering system.

The three-part separation model is incorrectly deployed - there is not enough separate entities to correctly do the checks and balances. It should be obvious that the Justice Department should be a separate entity, but it is difficult to understand how to do that within the box of the three-part separation model of the three-level chartering system. Contrary to the popular rhetoric, the founders of the United States are not turning in their graves because of the misuse of the Constitution, but rather, because of the continued exercise of their inadequate formulation of the government. The expansion of the government security departments, and advanced technology, would direct the founders towards a more accurate design of just government. They would certainly not insist that their centuries-old design of a three-part separation system of checks and balances was peerless; and most likely, they would be quick to recognize that the partisan strategies that congest the legislative processes that lead to the social disorderliness that we endure is caused by the lack of an orderly system.

United States Fourth Continental Congress​

Interesting post. I agree that checks and balances failed largely because the Founders did not anticipate such a polarized and dominating two party system would evolve. I think the wild card they were counting on was a free and independent press but that too has been biased and corrupted. I don't know how you create anything new that wouldn't fall to the same bias and corruption.

 

[The Irish Ram]

There ya go...

 

[martybegan]

Probably do not need you. The primary intention is to inspire the people that are most likely to be inclined, talented, and skilled, to order the better government chartering system for the United States that provides for the more tranquil American society and ultimately the approach to world peace.

Most people are not going to be talented and skilled at composing directive systems - we are very few.

Like you, the Social Justice Warriors will probably not be talented and skilled either; but they do need to get some skin in the game. They need to understand how self government works. Do you understand how self government works, genius???

The keyword in the sentence that you highlighted is, "relatively."

Another dippy newb with long drawn out word-shits, and no actual content.

 

[Oddball]

We need to have a constitutional convention that gathers the diversity of people that the founders and subsequent generations could not gather. The American legends that have been devised to lead us to believe that true justice is possible cannot be achieved under the direction of the 18th century three-part model. The exercise of the 1787 federal Constitution successfully lead to the end of slavery in America, and that was about all it was good for. The design of the government is inherently flawed, and cannot meet the demands of diversity that the nation has evolved to, nor the expectations of a relatively more sophisticated citizenry than the people of the 18th century.

White supremacy and systemic biases are not formulated into the social system. “Systemic biases,” are collateral dysfunction of the imperfect governing system that is in place guiding the society. Black people's encounters with racial prejudice is random, unpredictable, and an unfortunate product of social disorder that can only be rectified by reordering the government chartering system.

The three-part separation model is incorrectly deployed - there is not enough separate entities to correctly do the checks and balances. It should be obvious that the Justice Department should be a separate entity, but it is difficult to understand how to do that within the box of the three-part separation model of the three-level chartering system. Contrary to the popular rhetoric, the founders of the United States are not turning in their graves because of the misuse of the Constitution, but rather, because of the continued exercise of their inadequate formulation of the government. The expansion of the government security departments, and advanced technology, would direct the founders towards a more accurate design of just government. They would certainly not insist that their centuries-old design of a three-part separation system of checks and balances was peerless; and most likely, they would be quick to recognize that the partisan strategies that congest the legislative processes that lead to the social disorderliness that we endure is caused by the lack of an orderly system.

United States Fourth Continental Congress​

Interesting post. I agree that checks and balances failed largely because the Founders did not anticipate such a polarized and dominating two party system would evolve. I think the wild card they were counting on was a free and independent press but that too has been biased and corrupted. I don't know how you create anything new that wouldn't fall to the same bias and corruption.

The premise of "inadequate formulation of government" is a fancy way of saying the framers were provincial hayseed hicks....Problem being is that the gubmint hasn't been operating as formulated for over a century, and pious navel gazers like the OP ignore this fact.

 

[martybegan]

Probably do not need you. The primary intention is to inspire the people that are most likely to be inclined, talented, and skilled, to order the better government chartering system for the United States that provides for the more tranquil American society and ultimately the approach to world peace.

Most people are not going to be talented and skilled at composing directive systems - we are very few.

Like you, the Social Justice Warriors will probably not be talented and skilled either; but they do need to get some skin in the game. They need to understand how self government works. Do you understand how self government works, genius???

The keyword in the sentence that you highlighted is, "relatively."

I don't know if you've ever considered this, but snobbery isn't a very effective rapport builder.

And in this case unearned snobbery.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

Interesting post. I agree that checks and balances failed largely because the Founders did not anticipate such a polarized and dominating two party system would evolve. I think the wild card they were counting on was a free and independent press but that too has been biased and corrupted. I don't know how you create anything new that wouldn't fall to the same bias and corruption.

I do not believe that the founders were counting on the press to do what it is that the industry has lead you, and many others, to believe is the reporters' civic duty. In my research I do not recall any suggestion that it is the duty of the commercial reporting services to do what it is that people seem to believe that they are supposed to do. I am very confident that the founders were very much aware of the independent press' ability to manipulate the reporting of government activities in an effort to promote their interests and subsequent political candidates. I am very confident that there are some quotations from the founders to confirm this.

I am also very confident that the founders were counting on the citizens to realize that their formulation of the government was merely a "start-up," and that it would have to be reordered upon the revelations of (future) technology.

Let us raise a standard to which the wise and honest can repair; the event is in the hand of God.
George Washington, during the 1787 constitutional convention

 

[$ecular#eckler]

I don't know if you've ever considered this, but snobbery isn't a very effective rapport builder.

And in this case unearned snobbery.

So, how am I supposed to "build effective rapport" with the Social Justice Warriors, if I have to limit my "rapport building" with the brilliant people, like you?

How do We convince them that they are incorrect, if we do not appease their sense of ability to participate in the discussions for organizing a public institution for better deliberation of social issues?

It is not my fault if you are so easily offended.

 

[Oddball]

I don't know if you've ever considered this, but snobbery isn't a very effective rapport builder.

And in this case unearned snobbery.

So, how am I supposed to "build effective rapport" with the Social Justice Warriors, if I have to limit my "rapport building" with the brilliant people like you?

The first step would be to quit acting as though you're the smartest asshole in the room, no matter which room you happen to be in....Second one would be to quit pretending that nobody has ever heard anything along the lines of what you proposed.

 

[daveman]

I don't know if you've ever considered this, but snobbery isn't a very effective rapport builder.

And in this case unearned snobbery.

So, how am I supposed to "build effective rapport" with the Social Justice Warriors, if I have to limit my "rapport building" with the brilliant people, like you?

How do We convince them that they are incorrect, if we do not appease their sense of ability to participate in the discussions for organizing a public institution for better deliberation of social issues?

It is not my fault if you are so easily offended.

"I'm smart because I say so" isn't a very good way to lead off your resume.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

I'm smart because I say so" isn't a very good way to lead off your resume.

Where did I write that? Where is my resume that you read?

I am proving that I am smarter than most people by arguing that the three-part model is improperly deployed, and that that causes the political chaos at the top that trickles down and causes the social chaos we endure.

Do you think you are smarter than me, and that I need to learn something from you?

How does this discussion/debate system work???

58 thousand messages on this board - have you made a difference???

 

[daveman]

I'm smart because I say so" isn't a very good way to lead off your resume.

Where did I write that? Where is my resume that you read?

I am proving that I am smarter than most people by arguing that the three-part model is improperly deployed, and that that causes the political chaos at the top that trickles down and causes the social chaos we endure.

Do you think you are smarter than me, and that I need to learn something from you?

How does this discussion/debate system work???

58 thousand messages on this board - have you made a difference???

Probably not. But then, I'm not demanding we bulldoze the entire United States and start over.

And once again -- you're "proving" you're smart by saying you're smart.

It's more likely you're just gullible and believe anything you say.

 

[harmonica]

We need to have a constitutional convention that gathers the diversity of people that the founders and subsequent generations could not gather. The American legends that have been devised to lead us to believe that true justice is possible cannot be achieved under the direction of the 18th century three-part model. The exercise of the 1787 federal Constitution successfully lead to the end of slavery in America, and that was about all it was good for. The design of the government is inherently flawed, and cannot meet the demands of diversity that the nation has evolved to, nor the expectations of a relatively more sophisticated citizenry than the people of the 18th century.

White supremacy and systemic biases are not formulated into the social system. “Systemic biases,” are collateral dysfunction of the imperfect governing system that is in place guiding the society. Black people's encounters with racial prejudice is random, unpredictable, and an unfortunate product of social disorder that can only be rectified by reordering the government chartering system.

The three-part separation model is incorrectly deployed - there is not enough separate entities to correctly do the checks and balances. It should be obvious that the Justice Department should be a separate entity, but it is difficult to understand how to do that within the box of the three-part separation model of the three-level chartering system. Contrary to the popular rhetoric, the founders of the United States are not turning in their graves because of the misuse of the Constitution, but rather, because of the continued exercise of their inadequate formulation of the government. The expansion of the government security departments, and advanced technology, would direct the founders towards a more accurate design of just government. They would certainly not insist that their centuries-old design of a three-part separation system of checks and balances was peerless; and most likely, they would be quick to recognize that the partisan strategies that congest the legislative processes that lead to the social disorderliness that we endure is caused by the lack of an orderly system.

United States Fourth Continental Congress​

..there's not a problem of police brutality or racism...the MAJOR problem is blacks committing crimes at HIGH rates and graduating at low rates
I've linked all the proof/stats before
..there's not a problem of '''racial stratification''' ...explain that

 

[$ecular#eckler]

The first step would be to quit acting as though you're the smartest asshole in the room, no matter which room you happen to be in.

Wow! I am a good writer, aren't I???

...Second one would be to quit pretending that nobody has ever heard anything along the lines of what you proposed.

You have never encountered anyone suggesting that the government is inadequately separated.
There are no books, news articles, or posting around on forums suggesting that the government is inadequately separated. You are brilliantly disillusioned.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

..there's not a problem of police brutality or racism...the MAJOR problem is blacks committing crimes at HIGH rates and graduating at low rates
I've linked all the proof/stats before
..there's not a problem of '''racial stratification''' ...explain that

That is it! Did you read this part?

White supremacy and systemic biases are not formulated into the social system. “Systemic biases,” are collateral dysfunction of the imperfect governing system that is in place guiding the society. Black people's encounters with racial prejudice is random, unpredictable, and an unfortunate product of social disorder that can only be rectified by reordering the government chartering system.

The reason Black people have problems is because the government is not designed to smarten-people-up, and desegregation has failed to help Black people build trust in their community - it has caused them to trust White Man's flawed corporate and government systems. And so, they believe that they are going to garner control of the flawed system to oppress white people.

It is hilarious what they are thinking.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

Probably not. But then, I'm not demanding we bulldoze the entire United States and start over.

Damn, I'm a good writer!

How did you get this, "Demanding," concept from my innocent little essays???

I am not demanding that we start over. I am "demanding" that we correctly use the technology that has been revealed to correctly adjust the start-up system that we have inherited to more accurately approach true justice. No different than government reform.