There is NO need for a Federal Minimum wage...

[danielpalos]

There is NO need for a Federal Minimum wage...

Of course there isn't...There is no need for The State -federal, state, or local- to set prices for anything, let alone labor...The examples of their utter failure in this area are too numerous to mention...But when has overwhelming evidence of failure ever trumped the pecksniffian arrogance of the ignoramus do-gooder social tinkerers?

Yes....let’s just trust ourselves to the Capitalists
They are doing such a good job at taking care of us

Yes ... Let's just trust our lives to the politicians and bureaucrats.... Their. track record of success is impeccable.

The public sector is public; the private sector is private.

 

[healthmyths]

Minimum wage has always been a deterrent for FAIR pay for work performed. While an entry level worker gets into the job market, he has no skills or education for said job, while someone who has been there 2 or three years has both knowledge and experience for what is required for profit. But with minimum wage, it doesn't allow for this, so liberal employers keep both entry and 2 year workers at the same wages, because it is federally mandated, thus the 2 year vet FEELS resentment for the new guy. I know because while I was a short order chef, and knew the whole kitchen, when minimum, wage was increased, yeah, I got a 15 cent raise, but every new guy was paid the same as me. That was when I learned to not be a minimum wage liberal victim but got skills that enabled me to move to a better paying job.....

ME TOO! I worked in a predecessor of McDonalds in 1961 - 1962 and my hourly wage was $2.00. And I was the boss' nephew!

Adjusted for inflation, $2.00 in 1962 is equal to $16.43 in 2018.
Annual inflation over this period was 3.83%.

You were making more than what the workers you are bitching about are getting a raise to.

Calculate the value of $2.00 in 1962. How much is it worth today?

I didn't ***** about them getting $15.00/hour from AMAZON DID I????
My point was the Federal government ONE SIZE fits all is stupid in Mississippi where the cost of living is 87% of what the standard versus NY City where it is 140% above the Standard of living!
It is dumber then hell to make an employer in Mississippi pay the same as an employer in NY city!
Because idiot.... I know you don't comprehend this but the standard of living ALSO applies to other expenses that an Employer in Mississippi doesn't have compared to the employer in NY City! Everything in MS will be lower than it is in NYC! Dummy!
So why do you idiots not comprehend that distinct in the standards of LIVING between say MS and NYC?
And this applies to varying degrees around the country!
For example in Texas and Florida where the standard of living is less than NYC but higher than MS, guess what? NO STATE personal income tax in those states versus NY and NYC has an income tax also!
So you idiots that think ONE SIZE fits ALL have no ability to discriminate regarding operating costs, standard of living and other measures that dumb as one size fits all $15/hr minimum wage would impose!

Just for once be a little comprehending of distinctions.

 

[healthmyths]

There is NO need for a Federal Minimum wage...

Of course there isn't...There is no need for The State -federal, state, or local- to set prices for anything, let alone labor...The examples of their utter failure in this area are too numerous to mention...But when has overwhelming evidence of failure ever trumped the pecksniffian arrogance of the ignoramus do-gooder social tinkerers?

Yes....let’s just trust ourselves to the Capitalists
They are doing such a good job at taking care of us

HEY ID10T!!!!

You are using the fruits of those evil capitalists RIGHT now! Being the idiot you are though I bet this description of people like you is most accurate!
So these people get:
=== $ 5,666 in Earned Income Credit i.e. a check from Uncle Sam instead of paying YOU get a check!!!
Tax Foundation
=== $12,000 free housing , Section 8 will pay up to $1,000/month www.affordablehousingonline.com/section8housing.asp
=== $ 2,400 free food,
=== $ 1,200 in free cell phone plus :http://www.adttel.com/?gclid=CLex4IamjKQCFY5a7AodrCHlHw
=== $ 5,000 a year in free health care from Medicaid.
So this is about $26,000 a year in FREE MONEY, free goods and free services...

it cost $75.7 billion in 2011 compared to $35 billion in 2008; and enrollment has hit an all-time high of 46.7 million recipients.
Meanwhile, the number of children receiving free school lunches has inflated from 18 to 21 million — an unprecedented jump —
about 2.1 million households (6 million) use Section 8 the Housing Choice Voucher program
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AND guess what NO KING NO Dictator or Emperor in ancient times had that idiots like YOU HAVE?
1) Free cell phones to talk anywhere in the world!
2) Free INTERNET to share your dumb ass opinions with NO proof to others and show your ignorance!
3) FREE food//Free Shelter... Even the dictators, Kings, Emperors had to work to keep their largesse!

And people like you living under those above dictators, etc..... WERE paying them! Working at NO wages! Just to get some food.
AND idiots like you totally and abysmally stupid, nugacity person can ***** and moan? Wow the real height of ridiculousness!

 

[healthmyths]

Oh and by the way I DIDN"T misspell ID10T.


I'm sure it went over the "ID10T"s heads but that was what we use to tell really stupid people back in the 90s when I did technical support for people using modems to get on to the internet. They seemingly like these "ID10T"s couldn't grasp the concept of a "password" so we would tell them your password is "I" "D" 1, 0, "T" and true to form they never like these
ID10Ts seemed to understand!

 

[Thinker101]

Low skilled workers are in the worst position to bargain for higher wages
This makes them easy prey for exploitation

The minimum wage has not been raised in ten years due to GOP obstruction. The workers have suffered and the American taxpayer makes up the difference

Sounds like you need to learn a skill.

 

[danielpalos]

We have a mixed-market economy; a minimum wage is necessary to provide institutional upward pressure on wages, when we know, Capitalism cannot rely on Perfect information due to the right wing having nothing but fallacy.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

ME TOO! I worked in a predecessor of McDonalds in 1961 - 1962 and my hourly wage was $2.00. And I was the boss' nephew!

Adjusted for inflation, $2.00 in 1962 is equal to $16.43 in 2018.
Annual inflation over this period was 3.83%.

You were making more than what the workers you are bitching about are getting a raise to.

Calculate the value of $2.00 in 1962. How much is it worth today?

That is a big fat lie, the $2.00 bucks my aunt put under her bed in 1962 is worth $2 bucks today .

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How many gallons of gas could she buy?

In 1962 she could have filled her tank. Gas was about 14 cents a gallon back then.

But she kept the $2 bucks under her bed, like I said .


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Saudi Arabia for one....

 

[Wyatt earp]

Minimum wage has always been a deterrent for FAIR pay for work performed. While an entry level worker gets into the job market, he has no skills or education for said job, while someone who has been there 2 or three years has both knowledge and experience for what is required for profit. But with minimum wage, it doesn't allow for this, so liberal employers keep both entry and 2 year workers at the same wages, because it is federally mandated, thus the 2 year vet FEELS resentment for the new guy. I know because while I was a short order chef, and knew the whole kitchen, when minimum, wage was increased, yeah, I got a 15 cent raise, but every new guy was paid the same as me. That was when I learned to not be a minimum wage liberal victim but got skills that enabled me to move to a better paying job.....

ME TOO! I worked in a predecessor of McDonalds in 1961 - 1962 and my hourly wage was $2.00. And I was the boss' nephew!

Adjusted for inflation, $2.00 in 1962 is equal to $16.43 in 2018.
Annual inflation over this period was 3.83%.

You were making more than what the workers you are bitching about are getting a raise to.

Calculate the value of $2.00 in 1962. How much is it worth today?

I didn't ***** about them getting $15.00/hour from AMAZON DID I????
My point was the Federal government ONE SIZE fits all is stupid in Mississippi where the cost of living is 87% of what the standard versus NY City where it is 140% above the Standard of living!
It is dumber then hell to make an employer in Mississippi pay the same as an employer in NY city!
Because idiot.... I know you don't comprehend this but the standard of living ALSO applies to other expenses that an Employer in Mississippi doesn't have compared to the employer in NY City! Everything in MS will be lower than it is in NYC! Dummy!
So why do you idiots not comprehend that distinct in the standards of LIVING between say MS and NYC?
And this applies to varying degrees around the country!
For example in Texas and Florida where the standard of living is less than NYC but higher than MS, guess what? NO STATE personal income tax in those states versus NY and NYC has an income tax also!
So you idiots that think ONE SIZE fits ALL have no ability to discriminate regarding operating costs, standard of living and other measures that dumb as one size fits all $15/hr minimum wage would impose!

Just for once be a little comprehending of distinctions.

You miss the liberal point if the National minimum wage was raised to $15 bucks an hour more company's would not leave their shit hole high taxed blue States for red states

It's just like the CEO of Costco champions for a national higher minimum wage it's just a bussiness decision to hurt their competition.


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[rightwinger]

There is NO need for a Federal Minimum wage...

Of course there isn't...There is no need for The State -federal, state, or local- to set prices for anything, let alone labor...The examples of their utter failure in this area are too numerous to mention...But when has overwhelming evidence of failure ever trumped the pecksniffian arrogance of the ignoramus do-gooder social tinkerers?

Yes....let’s just trust ourselves to the Capitalists
They are doing such a good job at taking care of us

Yes ... Let's just trust our lives to the politicians and bureaucrats.... Their. track record of success is impeccable.

We saw what happened when we slashed taxes on the wealthy and trusted them to raise wages accordingly

We rely on government to regulate labor safety, a 40 hour week, child labor, anti discrimination laws, collective bargaining

When we left Capitalists to their own means, they hired thugs with clubs and chains to beat protesting workers

 

[rightwinger]

Low skilled workers are in the worst position to bargain for higher wages
This makes them easy prey for exploitation

The minimum wage has not been raised in ten years due to GOP obstruction. The workers have suffered and the American taxpayer makes up the difference

Sounds like you need to learn a skill.

Why?

 

[Oddball]

We saw what happened when we slashed taxes on the wealthy and trusted them to raise wages accordingly

We rely on government to regulate labor safety, a 40 hour week, child labor, anti discrimination laws, collective bargaining

When we left Capitalists to their own means, they hired thugs with clubs ab$ chains to beat protesting workers

You have anything more relevant than shit that happened over a century ago?

 

[Oddball]

We have a mixed-market economy; a minimum wage is necessary to provide institutional upward pressure on wages, when we know, Capitalism cannot rely on Perfect information due to the right wing having nothing but fallacy.

 

[Wyatt earp]

There is NO need for a Federal Minimum wage...

Of course there isn't...There is no need for The State -federal, state, or local- to set prices for anything, let alone labor...The examples of their utter failure in this area are too numerous to mention...But when has overwhelming evidence of failure ever trumped the pecksniffian arrogance of the ignoramus do-gooder social tinkerers?

Yes....let’s just trust ourselves to the Capitalists
They are doing such a good job at taking care of us

Yes ... Let's just trust our lives to the politicians and bureaucrats.... Their. track record of success is impeccable.

We saw what happened when we slashed taxes on the wealthy and trusted them to raise wages accordingly

We rely on government to regulate labor safety, a 40 hour week, child labor, anti discrimination laws, collective bargaining

When we left Capitalists to their own means, they hired thugs with clubs ab$ chains to beat protesting workers

Anyone making $13 bucks an hour today who wants a $15 dollar minimum wage is a ******* idiot and don't know math or economics ...plus why the **** would they want to make minimum wage?


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[danielpalos]

We have a mixed-market economy; a minimum wage is necessary to provide institutional upward pressure on wages, when we know, Capitalism cannot rely on Perfect information due to the right wing having nothing but fallacy.

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what circular logic? capitalism has a natural rate of failure to employ.

 

[rightwinger]

We saw what happened when we slashed taxes on the wealthy and trusted them to raise wages accordingly

We rely on government to regulate labor safety, a 40 hour week, child labor, anti discrimination laws, collective bargaining

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When we left Capitalists to their own means, they hired thugs with clubs ab$ chains to beat protesting workers

You have anything more relevant than shit that happened over a century ago?

We tried relying on the good faith of capitalists to treat workers fairly

It didn’t happen ......that is why we have government

 

[rightwinger]

There is NO need for a Federal Minimum wage...

Of course there isn't...There is no need for The State -federal, state, or local- to set prices for anything, let alone labor...The examples of their utter failure in this area are too numerous to mention...But when has overwhelming evidence of failure ever trumped the pecksniffian arrogance of the ignoramus do-gooder social tinkerers?

Yes....let’s just trust ourselves to the Capitalists
They are doing such a good job at taking care of us

Yes ... Let's just trust our lives to the politicians and bureaucrats.... Their. track record of success is impeccable.

We saw what happened when we slashed taxes on the wealthy and trusted them to raise wages accordingly

We rely on government to regulate labor safety, a 40 hour week, child labor, anti discrimination laws, collective bargaining

When we left Capitalists to their own means, they hired thugs with clubs ab$ chains to beat protesting workers

Anyone making $13 bucks an hour today who wants a $15 dollar minimum wage is a ******* idiot and don't know math or economics ...plus why the **** would they want to make minimum wage?


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You really don’t understand minimum wage, do you?

 

[healthmyths]

There is NO need for a Federal Minimum wage...

Of course there isn't...There is no need for The State -federal, state, or local- to set prices for anything, let alone labor...The examples of their utter failure in this area are too numerous to mention...But when has overwhelming evidence of failure ever trumped the pecksniffian arrogance of the ignoramus do-gooder social tinkerers?

Yes....let’s just trust ourselves to the Capitalists
They are doing such a good job at taking care of us

Yes ... Let's just trust our lives to the politicians and bureaucrats.... Their. track record of success is impeccable.

We saw what happened when we slashed taxes on the wealthy and trusted them to raise wages accordingly

We rely on government to regulate labor safety, a 40 hour week, child labor, anti discrimination laws, collective bargaining

When we left Capitalists to their own means, they hired thugs with clubs ab$ chains to beat protesting workers

Anyone making $13 bucks an hour today who wants a $15 dollar minimum wage is a ******* idiot and don't know math or economics ...plus why the **** would they want to make minimum wage?


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You really don’t understand minimum wage, do you?

Explain to me why people with NO WORK experience or skills deserve $15.00/hour?
More importantly I bet you don't know how many people fit into that category do you?

 

[Wyatt earp]

There is NO need for a Federal Minimum wage...

Of course there isn't...There is no need for The State -federal, state, or local- to set prices for anything, let alone labor...The examples of their utter failure in this area are too numerous to mention...But when has overwhelming evidence of failure ever trumped the pecksniffian arrogance of the ignoramus do-gooder social tinkerers?

Yes....let’s just trust ourselves to the Capitalists
They are doing such a good job at taking care of us

Yes ... Let's just trust our lives to the politicians and bureaucrats.... Their. track record of success is impeccable.

We saw what happened when we slashed taxes on the wealthy and trusted them to raise wages accordingly

We rely on government to regulate labor safety, a 40 hour week, child labor, anti discrimination laws, collective bargaining

When we left Capitalists to their own means, they hired thugs with clubs ab$ chains to beat protesting workers

Anyone making $13 bucks an hour today who wants a $15 dollar minimum wage is a ******* idiot and don't know math or economics ...plus why the **** would they want to make minimum wage?


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You really don’t understand minimum wage, do you?

Of course I do you do also, this is another propaganda game you play with uniformed voters who doesnt know math or economics..



I can see it now at the Thanksgiving table hey son I heard you got a $2 dollar raise, you now make minimum wage..


LMFAO...



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[rightwinger]

Yes....let’s just trust ourselves to the Capitalists
They are doing such a good job at taking care of us

Yes ... Let's just trust our lives to the politicians and bureaucrats.... Their. track record of success is impeccable.

We saw what happened when we slashed taxes on the wealthy and trusted them to raise wages accordingly

We rely on government to regulate labor safety, a 40 hour week, child labor, anti discrimination laws, collective bargaining

When we left Capitalists to their own means, they hired thugs with clubs ab$ chains to beat protesting workers

Anyone making $13 bucks an hour today who wants a $15 dollar minimum wage is a ******* idiot and don't know math or economics ...plus why the **** would they want to make minimum wage?


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You really don’t understand minimum wage, do you?

Explain to me why people with NO WORK experience or skills deserve $15.00/hour?
More importantly I bet you don't know how many people fit into that category do you?

Because I used to make $2 an hour

I used the money to pay for college, buy a car, get started in life
It would take $15 an hour to do the same today

 

[Oddball]

what circular logic? capitalism has a natural rate of failure to employ.

Dude, I never thought this was possible.....You're actually more dense and ill-informed than rderp....At least he's smart enough to know that he knows nothing about economics, and doesn't try to pass himself off as though he does.

Go play with your Legos or something.