There is a lot of talking that the shots given as a vaccine harm humans, so listen up

[sparky]

Fear, fear, fear - It drives conspiracy theories,

Fear also fosters fascism Elmer

Which is exactly what drove the whole lockdown, mask & vax to exist

Many such as I continue to provide you with factual data that presents it as ineffective , via shill & inept players who's chief goal was just that

That big gub'mit seeks control of it's constituency is no conspiracy , they've done a grand job via social media at that

where did you think the term 'fake news' came from?

It came from those selling their agenda cloaked in the threat of fear

Just like you're selling here

~S~

 

[sparky]

Prove it. I'll wait.

1. The figures of deaths from covid are unspecific. Death certificates do not distinguish between people who have died “from” or “with” the infection.Jan 18, 2023

~S~

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

So sparky is guessing.

 

[sparky]

So sparky is guessing.

not about you...... ~S~

 

[noonereal]

Around here the doctors and hospitals tell us no need to mask.

Idiots abound, no doubt.

 

[sparky]

Idiots abound, no doubt.

so do tools and trolls ~S~

 

[Robert W]

Idiots abound, no doubt.

I went to one hospital today and one medical helper wore a mask, however nobody asked me to wear one. I only saw the one person with a mask in fact.

 

[Robert W]

Idiots abound, no doubt.

Funny attack against hospitals and doctors. And yes, today I went to one for treatment.

 

[noonereal]

I went to one hospital today and one medical helper wore a mask, however nobody asked me to wear one. I only saw the one person with a mask in fact.

As I said, idiots anound.

 

[noonereal]

Funny attack against hospitals and doctors. And yes, today I went to one for treatment.

I too consult doctors but I realize their biases and shortcomings.
Did you know 1 in 5 doctor office visits offers has a wrong diagnosis?
This information was compiled by the doctors medical association themselves!

People are people.
A degree or title can mean little.

 

[PeterPilot]

Despite the human corruption, you cannot ignore the advancements made by the medical/science community. They have done a lot more right than wrong. Our life expectancy has doubled in the last 100 years. That is because of the advancements in the medical community.

You seem to look at the most negative aspects of medicne and government and ignore the positives. You have a very unbalanced view of the world. You define our institutions by their worst qualities.


Steven Johnson on human life expectancy and why we're living longer : TED Radio Hour Original broadcast date: March 22, 2022. In the last century, human life expectancy has doubled. This hour, we talk with writer Steven Johnson on the many breakthroughs that made this possible — and where we go from here.Mar 10, 2023

I'm sorry, I cannot help but look at the negative aspects because my father was a doctor in the 50s and I was brought up understanding the meaning of the Hippocratic Oath. Since 1980 or so the AMA has trampled upon the letter and spirit of that Oath. It does not make me happy to focus on the negative aspects of the medical profession today, not at all, but it must be said.

There are many reasons for all the negativity, and to discuss them intelligently we must first admit the failure and face the facts.

 

[ElmerMudd]

I'm sorry, I cannot help but look at the negative aspects because my father was a doctor in the 50s and I was brought up understanding the meaning of the Hippocratic Oath. Since 1980 or so the AMA has trampled upon the letter and spirit of that Oath. It does not make me happy to focus on the negative aspects of the medical profession today, not at all, but it must be said.

There are many reasons for all the negativity, and to discuss them intelligently we must first admit the failure and face the facts.

Every organization make's mistakes (failures). Dealing with the mistakes should make the organization better. Science and the medical field is a good example of that. In truth most medical procedures are an art not a science. As we learn from failures our medicine becomes better. The big picture of our life expectancy shows the success of medicine. Our life expectancy has doubled in 100 years.
The problem with the medical industry is the profit motive overrides good medicine too often.
You are focusing on the most negative aspects of medicine instead of the postives.
Medicine will never be perfect nor will the world.
If you look for perfection in the world you will always be frustrated and negative.

 

[ninja007]

Prove it. I'll wait.

Since the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic, there have been inconsistencies in the reporting of COVID-19 cases. Hospitals have been incentivized to mark deaths as COVID deaths, even in cases where it may not be the primary cause of death. Hospitals were paid $13,000 per person who was admitted as a COVID case, and another $39,000 for every patient put on a ventilator.


Minnesota state senator and family physician, Scott Jenson, has critiqued the CDC’s prevention guidelines on how doctors are certifying COVID-19 deaths on death certificates. He pointed out that the current system could easily cause the disease to appear deadlier than it actually is.

Related: Data Shows How to Protect Against Coronavirus and We Address Conspiracy Theories​

“In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID cannot be made but is suspected or likely (e.g. the circumstances are compelling with a reasonable degree of certainty) it is acceptable to report COVID-19 on a death certificate as ‘probable’ or ‘presumed.'”
CDC Admits Hospital Incentives Drove Up COVID-19 Deaths

Under the current CDC guidelines, a patient who is hit by a bus, and then tests positive for COVID-19, would be marked as a COVID death, despite injuries from the bus accident.


In Florida, a man died in a motorcycle accident, tested positive for COVID-19, and was then marked down as a COVID death. The same thing was seen in the case of a man who died of a gunshot wound, and a man who died of Parkinson’s disease.

Related: Coronavirus Supplement Review​

The media consistently reports the number of positive test results instead of actual case numbers, making the virus seem much more deadly than it actually is. A positive coronavirus test does not mean that you have the disease of COVID-19, it generally means you are infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus. To have a case of COVID-19, one needs to show symptoms of the virus. A case of COVID-19 and a positive coronavirus test result are not the same thing.


CDC director, Robert Redfield has admitted that the financial policies put in place could have resulted in elevated hospitalization rates and death toll statistics. Brett Grior with the U.S Health and Human Services Department has also said he believes that financial incentivization could have resulted in higher COVID-19 death rates.

CDC Admits Finacial Hospital Incentives Drove up COVID-19 Death Rates

Minnesota state senator and family physician Scott Jenson has critiqued the CDC's prevention guidelines on how doctors are certifying COVID-19 deaths on death certificates.

www.organiclifestylemagazine.com

 

[Robert W]

I too consult doctors but I realize their biases and shortcomings.
Did you know 1 in 5 doctor office visits offers has a wrong diagnosis?
This information was compiled by the doctors medical association themselves!

People are people.
A degree or title can mean little.

So why would you consult doctors?

 

[Robert W]

As I said, idiots anound.

Do you trust doctors?

 

[noonereal]

So why would you consult doctors?

Who the fuck would you consult?
Good God.
Consult, not blindly follow.
Especially in what became a political matter. Good fuckin grief.

 

[Robert W]

Who the fuck would you consult?
Good God.
Consult, not blindly follow.
Especially in what became a political matter. Good fuckin grief.

That seems like to me anyway, you see a doctor who you claim misleads you 1 out of 5 times I think you said. In my case, I got no satisfactory explanation of two things. The coughing I am still plagued with or why I fell on the driveway and still have no memory of this happening. I feel the evidence I hurt myself because of the place on my head that hurts even now. Tests on me ruled out the common cold, the flu or Covid or other things.

 

[noonereal]

That seems like to me anyway, you see a doctor who you claim misleads you 1 out of 5 times I think you said. In my case, I got no satisfactory explanation of two things. The coughing I am still plagued with or why I fell on the driveway and still have no memory of this happening. I feel the evidence I hurt myself because of the place on my head that hurts even now. Tests on me ruled out the common cold, the flu or Covid or other things.

I don't claim, the AMA themselves reported as found in JAMA.

Sorry, I can't help you with you cough induced by a fall.

 

[Robert W]

I don't claim, the AMA themselves reported as found in JAMA.

Sorry, I can't help you with you cough induced by a fall.

If the AMA claims it, why can't you also claim it?

 

[noonereal]

If the AMA claims it, why can't you also claim it?

I did not do the research. See how that works?