There Are Two Sexes. Male and Female. Period.

[zaangalewa]

I identify as a swedish american. I was born here in the US but my dna is my dna. Dna is who who we are.

DNA is part of who we are. Culture and life experience are the other part. My sister just got the results from her DNA ancestry test. We are 75% British, 20% Scandinavian, and the other 5% is DNA "noise", the random trace elements that show up on everyone's DNA. But culturally, we are neither British nor Scandinavian; we are American, specifically Southern American. We've been here too long for "British" to have any meaning to us whatsoever, except that we all need to wear heavy-duty sunblock when we go outside.

And where did your ancestors come from? Germany?

The DNA part, however, is still irrefutable. I can make cultural differentiations between myself and a person who actually lives in Great Britain all day long - and have them be quite valid - but I can't decide that, because I don't "feel" British and Scandinavian, I am really black or Asian or Native American.

You are able to become a "native American" - some Germans for example became "native Americans", this has nothing to do with genetics - ... and okay ... in a similar way this could work also with Asians and Negroes. You could be a reborn Negroe in the body of a Scando-Brit in America for example.

Likewise, a man who is "transgender" can differentiate all day long between himself and men who are comfortable and happy being men - and maybe even be quite valid - but that still doesn't make him correct in declaring that he's "really" a woman.

And what if someone is really a reborn woman for example in the body of a man?

Sorry, are you deliberately misunderstanding the words here?

I am not "able to become" Native American or any other racial/ethnic group. Maybe Germans were able to be adopted into tribes 200 years ago ...

I guess you are right - you personally are not able to become a Red Indian. But this has nothing to do with your Celtic and/or Germanic genes from the North of Europe. You don't understand foreign cultures, that's all. I know from two Germans, who became Red Indians in the 20th century. That's not a problem - it's wonderful that such things are able to happen. In the end we are all sisters and brothers.

For the record, I have no Germanic genes at all. And I understand as much about foreign cultures as I can from the perspective of not being part of them . . . about the way people understand the culture of Southern Americans without actually being one.

I'm really not saying anything that's controversial or insulting. Some things are cultural, and some things are not. Femaleness is not a "culture"; it's genetic. It's not something you can join. You either are, or you are not.

Okay. So you are genetically a Scandinavian Brit (Norman + Anglo-Saxon + Celt) but you have nothing to do with Germanics. Your culture is exclusivelly only American - whatever this is. Everything else is strange to you. And men are men - women are women. And who has problems in this context has this problems because of genetical defects.

Nope. You went off the rails right around the time you didn't know how to spell "exclusively". My culture is Southern American, which very much is a specific and unique thing.

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And I never said "everything else is strange to me";

You said: "And I understand as much about foreign cultures as I can from the perspective of not being part of them"

you projected that in there yourself. Everything else is NOT MINE. I can see it around me; I can appreciate and enjoy it. But I'm not actually part of it, which is perfectly okay. And even if I could become part of something culturally - which is possible in many cases - I can't become part of things biologically that I'm not already part of. I could move to Mexico, learn to speak Spanish fluently with an identical accent, get involved with the community, know the city and the history and the culture as well as anyone there - be part of the culture. But I would still be white.

And yes, men are men and women are women, because those are BIOLOGICAL.

Aha. In a scale from 1 to 10 - how good do you think is your biological knowledge?

Yes, I did say that. Which isn't the same as "everything is strange to me". Glad you're finally catching on . . . sort of.

How good does my biological knowledge need to be to grasp the concept that homo sapien is a species which perpetuates itself by sexual reproduction and has two sexes for that purpose, which are determined by genetics? They cover that shit in middle school, for crying out loud . . . or they did when I was in middle school. God knows what they teach now.

Be that as it may, it doesn't require an advanced degree to grasp these facts. It just requires a willingness to accept that facts don't give a **** about feelings.

What do you really try to tell me?

 

[zaangalewa]

... It just requires a willingness to accept that facts don't give a **** about feelings.

And what if the facts are able to feel?

 

[Cecilie1200]

... It just requires a willingness to accept that facts don't give a **** about feelings.

And what if the facts are able to feel?

What the actual **** are you babbling about?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

No plethora of genders or sexes.

If an autopsy is done on a dead body, the report will list one of two sexes on the report. Based upon Chromosomes and genitals.

Cuz science.

Anything else claimed is a mental illness. People claim to be cats, dogs, Napoleon, and sexes they are not. All mental illnesses.

I have to wonder why you care. It seems odd that you would post this out of nowhere, without being provoked by a specfic issue or news article. You do realise that most people are not thinking about this, leave alone obsessing about it. That is, unless they are having some issues with their own gender identity.

I will not try to convince you about anything. Nor will I try to educate you. I don't care what you believe. Gender identity and sexual orientation are complicated issues and I seriously doubt that you have the desire or the intellectual capacity to learn anything about human sexuality and will forever be content to bleat and blather about what you need to believe and never ever stray outside of you comfort zone of willful ignorance.
You will never allow yourself to be exposed to information that would challenge your core beliefs. You need to dumb it down to " Its a mental illness " so that you can feel superior and "normal" while avoiding your own issues that compel you to post this banal and inane tripe. Have a nice day

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

"Male and Female" was a science even before science was a science.

See post 164

 

[Weatherman2020]

No plethora of genders or sexes.

If an autopsy is done on a dead body, the report will list one of two sexes on the report. Based upon Chromosomes and genitals.

Cuz science.

Anything else claimed is a mental illness. People claim to be cats, dogs, Napoleon, and sexes they are not. All mental illnesses.

I have to wonder why your care. It seems odd that you would post this out of nowhere, without being provoked by a specfic issue or news article. You do realise that most people are not thinking about this, leave alone obsessing about it. That is, unless they are having some issues with their own gender identity.

I will not try to convince you about anything. Nor will I try to educate you. I don't care what you believe. Gender identity and sexual orientation are complicated issues and I seriously doubt that you have the desire or the intellectual capacity to learn anything about human sexuality and will forever be content to bleat and blather about what you need to believe and never ever stray outside of you comfort zone of willful ignorance.
You will never allow yourself to be exposed to information that would challenge your core beliefs. You need to dumb it down to " Its a mental illness " so that you can feel superior and "normal" while avoiding your own issues that compel you to post this banal and inane tripe. Have a nice day

Why should I care that you’re allowed to hangout with naked girls in a shower and tell children to sue mommy and daddy to get a sex change at age 12?
Really? You that much of a pervert?

 

[Flash]

The stupid Moon Bats don't know their are only two genders.

They are confused about things like this.

They don't know any more about Biology than they do Economics, History, Climate Science, Ethics or the Constitution.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

No plethora of genders or sexes.

If an autopsy is done on a dead body, the report will list one of two sexes on the report. Based upon Chromosomes and genitals.

Cuz science.

Anything else claimed is a mental illness. People claim to be cats, dogs, Napoleon, and sexes they are not. All mental illnesses.

I have to wonder why your care. It seems odd that you would post this out of nowhere, without being provoked by a specfic issue or news article. You do realise that most people are not thinking about this, leave alone obsessing about it. That is, unless they are having some issues with their own gender identity.

I will not try to convince you about anything. Nor will I try to educate you. I don't care what you believe. Gender identity and sexual orientation are complicated issues and I seriously doubt that you have the desire or the intellectual capacity to learn anything about human sexuality and will forever be content to bleat and blather about what you need to believe and never ever stray outside of you comfort zone of willful ignorance.
You will never allow yourself to be exposed to information that would challenge your core beliefs. You need to dumb it down to " Its a mental illness " so that you can feel superior and "normal" while avoiding your own issues that compel you to post this banal and inane tripe. Have a nice day

Why should I care that you’re allowed to hangout with naked girls in a shower and tell children to sue mommy and daddy to get a sex change at age 12?
Really? You that much of a pervert?

Seriously? That is your response? Thank you for confirming everything that I just said about you. You didn't even try to refute or deny any of it. You are rediculous and confused and seem to be unable to distinguis between child abuse and gender identity Pathetic! You must be that 12 year old who you referr to.

 

[zaangalewa]

... It just requires a willingness to accept that facts don't give a **** about feelings.

And what if the facts are able to feel?

What the actual **** are you babbling about?

"To ****" is a very intensive biological and psychological interaction not only between two human beings on reason to create a common child. You are very far from everything what has to do with the very positive and joyful action "to ****". You empty the word "to ****" from its content - fill it with negative absurdities - and use this word in a totally strange way what makes everything weird what you say. And this weirdness is for you normal since centuries. What about if one day the word "****" will accuse you in front of god?

 

[Mindful]

No plethora of genders or sexes.

Correct. 2 genders.

Boy, the rabbid left is going to destroy you!

Which are you? I never figured that one out.

Not gender. The other thing.

 

[Mindful]

What about if one day the word "****" will accuse you in front of god?

I’d say ... lie back and think of England.

 

[Mindful]

No plethora of genders or sexes.

If an autopsy is done on a dead body, the report will list one of two sexes on the report. Based upon Chromosomes and genitals.

Cuz science.

Anything else claimed is a mental illness. People claim to be cats, dogs, Napoleon, and sexes they are not. All mental illnesses.

THANK YOU for stating the most obvious and ancient biological FACT about the human race. You know, it is really quite mad that anyone would even have to reiterate such basic biological facts but ours is an Age of madness and the most important facts and truths are on fire.

But allow me to second and third and fourth your statement: There are two human sexes: male and female; TWO.

To claim otherwise is madness.

The forms I have to fill in nowadays give me the option of three genders:

M, F, or other.

 

[Oz and the Orchestra]

No plethora of genders or sexes.

If an autopsy is done on a dead body, the report will list one of two sexes on the report. Based upon Chromosomes and genitals.

Cuz science.

Anything else claimed is a mental illness. People claim to be cats, dogs, Napoleon, and sexes they are not. All mental illnesses.

So is this person male or female? -

It is of course a young Boy George from the 80's.
Seems a bit odd that 40 years later many can't accept gender identity is different from physical anatomy.

Even Ayatollah Khomeini accepted that sometimes a female mind can be trapped in a male body after talking to some who convinced him that was the case. He then allowed transgender operations in Iran.
Pretty groundbreaking at the time as you couldn't imagine a more conservative person.
So 40 years later why are there still old dinosaurs objecting? If it doesn't affect you why stick your nose in?

The place I'd draw the line is children who should not in my view even be considered for surgery until they are 18.

 

[Mindful]

No plethora of genders or sexes.

If an autopsy is done on a dead body, the report will list one of two sexes on the report. Based upon Chromosomes and genitals.

Cuz science.

Anything else claimed is a mental illness. People claim to be cats, dogs, Napoleon, and sexes they are not. All mental illnesses.

So is this person male or female? -

View attachment 454137

It is of course a young Boy George from the 80's.
Seems a bit odd that 40 years later many can't accept gender identity is different from physical anatomy.

Even Ayatollah Khomeini accepted that sometimes a female mind can be trapped in a male body after talking to some who convinced him that was the case. He then allowed transgender operations in Iran.
Pretty groundbreaking at the time as you couldn't imagine a more conservative person.
So 40 years later why are there still old dinosaurs objecting? If it doesn't affect you why stick your nose in?

The place I'd draw the line is children who should not in my view even be considered for surgery until they are 18.

Some men like to dress up as women, for some strange reason.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

And more than two sexes

Speaking of the mentally ill.

There are people born with both sex organs which is described in today terms as intersex:

Intersex - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

So as you mock bones there are males, females and intersex and even though intersex is rare it does happen...

 

[Oz and the Orchestra]

No plethora of genders or sexes.

If an autopsy is done on a dead body, the report will list one of two sexes on the report. Based upon Chromosomes and genitals.

Cuz science.

Anything else claimed is a mental illness. People claim to be cats, dogs, Napoleon, and sexes they are not. All mental illnesses.

So is this person male or female? -

View attachment 454137

It is of course a young Boy George from the 80's.
Seems a bit odd that 40 years later many can't accept gender identity is different from physical anatomy.

Even Ayatollah Khomeini accepted that sometimes a female mind can be trapped in a male body after talking to some who convinced him that was the case. He then allowed transgender operations in Iran.
Pretty groundbreaking at the time as you couldn't imagine a more conservative person.
So 40 years later why are there still old dinosaurs objecting? If it doesn't affect you why stick your nose in?

The place I'd draw the line is children who should not in my view even be considered for surgery until they are 18.

Some men like to dress up as women, for some strange reason.

View attachment 454148

And some women men-

Marlaine was German though so i suppose we have to make an exception.

Don't want to get personal but have you ever thought of experimenting? nudge, nudge, wink, wink!

 

[Mindful]

No plethora of genders or sexes.

If an autopsy is done on a dead body, the report will list one of two sexes on the report. Based upon Chromosomes and genitals.

Cuz science.

Anything else claimed is a mental illness. People claim to be cats, dogs, Napoleon, and sexes they are not. All mental illnesses.

So is this person male or female? -

View attachment 454137

It is of course a young Boy George from the 80's.
Seems a bit odd that 40 years later many can't accept gender identity is different from physical anatomy.

Even Ayatollah Khomeini accepted that sometimes a female mind can be trapped in a male body after talking to some who convinced him that was the case. He then allowed transgender operations in Iran.
Pretty groundbreaking at the time as you couldn't imagine a more conservative person.
So 40 years later why are there still old dinosaurs objecting? If it doesn't affect you why stick your nose in?

The place I'd draw the line is children who should not in my view even be considered for surgery until they are 18.

Some men like to dress up as women, for some strange reason.

View attachment 454148

And some women men-

View attachment 454155

Marlaine was German though so i suppose we have to make an exception.

Don't want to get personal but have you ever thought of experimenting? nudge, nudge, wink, wink!

Still maintained her feminine gender.

Women are so cruel.

 

[Oz and the Orchestra]

And more than two sexes

Speaking of the mentally ill.

There are people born with both sex organs which is described in today terms as intersex:

Intersex - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

So as you mock bones there are males, females and intersex and even though intersex is rare it does happen...

This is where quantum mechanics' influence on our relative realm of reality takes effect throwing up every form of diversity. All quite natural and to give us as many chances of survival as possible.

 

[gtopa1]

No plethora of genders or sexes.

If an autopsy is done on a dead body, the report will list one of two sexes on the report. Based upon Chromosomes and genitals.

Cuz science.

Anything else claimed is a mental illness. People claim to be cats, dogs, Napoleon, and sexes they are not. All mental illnesses.

Sorry old bean; there now needs to be THREE: male, female and MUTILATED.

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

Perhaps y'all need a bit more science

XX, XY and WTF??????

Greg