"The wealthiest in this country do not pay their fair share." [Bernie Sanders]

[ThisIsMe]

Oh my word.

You come here to discuss politics then slam people for talking politics.

I’ve slammed nobody for talking politics. Where did you get that from?

Did I say we'd change anything? Nope.

But your mentality is "we can't change things now, so no point in even understanding".

You asked why I was here. I gave you my answer, but also explained that what we do here isn’t changing anything. This is a place for people to talk politics…ok..let’s be REAL honest, this is a place for people who like to argue and insult each other…if we’re being straight up honest.

Yes, you have a vote, but that vote doesn't mean very much because you have a choice between two parties and only two parties, because THE ELECTORAL SYSTEM says so.

You like that?

Let's put it this way, many countries were changing to PR in the early half of last century. Some have had PR for over 100 years, and the US is still using an outdated system.

They changed. But the US can't even move from dollar bills to dollar coins because of the inefficiency of the government which seems to be stuck in the seventeenth century.

Basically, if you want to talk politics, you should be willing to understand new things.

Ok, you are 100% right, I’m your system, if we had multiple prominent parties and a parliamentarian government, it would work.

Now what?

 

[konradv]

Again, who was harmed? Who was the victim? Who got defrauded?

Surely you know the answers to those questions. I mean, you're so sure he's going to prison and all, you should be able to cite who he harmed.

I noticed that you apparently missed my post, so I thought I'd give you another chance.

I don’t have time to through the trial with you. If you’re interested, get a copy of the transcript.

 

[Moonglow]

Reply in a meme:
"Actually the highest ten percent of all earners pay ninety percent of all taxes in America."

Is it true that the highest earning ten percent of Americans pay ninety percent of all taxes?

Or is that just ninety percent of all income tax paid?

If this is true then the idea of NO OVERTIME being free of income tax, could transform the USA economy rapidly.

I am guessing though that the USA Democratic Party will absolutely HATE this idea though?

"Do the highest earning ten percent of Americans pay ninety percent of income taxes in the USA?"

Zone1 Thread 'No taxes on OVERTIME PLUS.... Unconditional but Taxable Basic Minimum Income Supplements?'

Apr 14, 2026

Here is my plan to pay off the national debts of Canada and the USA, [beginning this in Canada might be easier due to the fact that the foundation was laid in Bank of Canada policy from 1938 to 1974]?

Five hundred dollars per month...
for forty one million Canadian citizens and legal residents....
that is created in the same way as the Bank of Canada worked from
1938 to 1974.

Plus....NO INCOME TAX ON OVERTIME.... so that the twenty percent of our
population who do about eighty percent of the most valuable work in the economy have
an incentive to work extra!

No income tax on overtime...

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No, the top 10% of earners in the USA do not pay 90% of all federal income tax, but they do pay a substantial majority. Data for 2022 shows the top 10% of earners were responsible for approximately 72% to 76% of federal income taxes, while earning nearly half of all income. The top 1% alone paid over 40% of federal income taxes. [1, 2, 3, 4]

 

[konradv]

No, I don't trust every single American. In particular those in NYC.....these same people convicted Jaber Walker: Jabar Walker Exonerated After 25 Years of Wrongful Conviction in Manhattan Double Homicide - Innocence Project

While at the same time, worked to get Epstein off the sex offender list https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/nyregion/cyrus-vance-epstein.html

They can't be trusted to actually look for justice.

I don’t trust MAGA, so I’ll go with 12 of my fellow citizens, thank you.

 

[dblack]

I don’t have time to through the trial with you. If you’re interested, get a copy of the transcript.

The feigned ignorance does get old.

 

[Moonglow]

Well, if my half of the population doesn't pay income taxes, why do I have to pay income taxes?

 

[hadit]

I don’t have time to through the trial with you. If you’re interested, get a copy of the transcript.

It should be easy for you to name the victim without needing to go through the whole trial transcript. You're basically admitting you don't have a victim to name.

 

[konradv]

It should be easy for you to name the victim without needing to go through the whole trial transcript. You're basically admitting you don't have a victim to name.

It should be easy for you to do some reading before slandering your fellow citizens.

 

[struth]

I don’t trust MAGA, so I’ll go with 12 of my fellow citizens, thank you.

Not surprised you like juries that convict innocent people, and people that help try and get sex offenders off the registry....

 

[konradv]

Not surprised you like juries that convict innocent people, and people that help try and get sex offenders off the registry....

https://www.npr.org/2026/02/11/nx-s1-5711294/trump-jan-6-pardons-child-sex-abuse

 

[struth]

https://www.npr.org/2026/02/11/nx-s1-5711294/trump-jan-6-pardons-child-sex-abuse

Great, glad he was convicted.

Meanwhile, your people worked to get Epstein off the sex offender list.

 

[hadit]

It should be easy for you to do some reading before slandering your fellow citizens.

First, quote the slander.
Second, you're only digging the hole deeper by not naming any victims. It should be easy for you to do.

 

[konradv]

Great, glad he was convicted.

Meanwhile, your people worked to get Epstein off the sex offender list.

MAGA lies.

 

[Lockback]

"Look at me! I'm a madman! I'm a Communist who's made millions by being a lifetime politician. I wouldn't know the real world if it hit me in the head!"

 

[struth]

MAGA lies.https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/nyregion/cyrus-vance-epstein.html

Nope....it's a sad reality...Dems protected convicted sex offenders: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/nyregion/cyrus-vance-epstein.html

 

[konradv]

First, quote the slander.
Second, you're only digging the hole deeper by not naming any victims. It should be easy for you to do.

Not playing your silly MAGA games. I could do as you ask, but in the future if I posted a similar message you’d be asking the same question. Quit being lazy and do some research.

 

[hadit]

Not playing your silly MAGA games. I could do as you ask, but in the future if I posted a similar message you’d be asking the same question. Quit being lazy and do some research.

Okay, since you are unable to name a victim, quote where I have slandered someone. Surely you can do that.

 

[konradv]

Nope....it's a sad reality...Dems protected convicted sex offenders: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/nyregion/cyrus-vance-epstein.html

The prosecutor that put Epstein in prison was fired by Trump. Explain that.

 

[struth]

The prosecutor that put Epstein in prison was fired by Trump. Explain that.

"Because you have declared that you have no intention of resigning, I have asked the President to remove you as of today, and he has done so."<a href="Geoffrey Berman - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a><a href="Geoffrey Berman - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>103<span>]</span></a> Barr wrote in his letter, "Unfortunately, with your statement of last night, you have chosen public spectacle over public service".<a href="Geoffrey Berman - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a> Barr added "By operation of law, the Deputy United States Attorney, Audrey Strauss, will become the Acting United States Attorney."<a href="Geoffrey Berman - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>104<span>]</span></a><a href="Geoffrey Berman - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>105<span>]</span></a> When asked by reporters, Trump said, "That's his [Barr's] department, not mine. ... I'm not involved."<a href="Geoffrey Berman - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>106<span>]</span></a> Later that day Berman agreed to step down because, he said, Barr had respected "the normal operation of law" by appointing his deputy as interim U.S. attorney.<a href="Geoffrey Berman - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a> Barr also wrote to Berman, "Your statement also wrongly implies that your continued tenure in the office is necessary to ensure that cases now pending in the Southern District of New York are handled appropriately. This is obviously false

Geoffrey Berman - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Barr wanted him gone, not trump.

 

[konradv]

"Because you have declared that you have no intention of resigning, I have asked the President to remove you as of today, and he has done so."<a href="Geoffrey Berman - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a><a href="Geoffrey Berman - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>103<span>]</span></a> Barr wrote in his letter, "Unfortunately, with your statement of last night, you have chosen public spectacle over public service".<a href="Geoffrey Berman - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a> Barr added "By operation of law, the Deputy United States Attorney, Audrey Strauss, will become the Acting United States Attorney."<a href="Geoffrey Berman - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>104<span>]</span></a><a href="Geoffrey Berman - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>105<span>]</span></a> When asked by reporters, Trump said, "That's his [Barr's] department, not mine. ... I'm not involved."<a href="Geoffrey Berman - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>106<span>]</span></a> Later that day Berman agreed to step down because, he said, Barr had respected "the normal operation of law" by appointing his deputy as interim U.S. attorney.<a href="Geoffrey Berman - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a> Barr also wrote to Berman, "Your statement also wrongly implies that your continued tenure in the office is necessary to ensure that cases now pending in the Southern District of New York are handled appropriately. This is obviously false

Geoffrey Berman - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Barr wanted him gone, not trump.

It was a political firing, because Trump didn’t like her father.