The US and China have agreed on a deal to help resolve the trade war

[Mac-7]

What is the upside to lowering tariffs for 90 days?

I dont see any

 

[Nostra]

Why do you have such a defeatist attitude about this?

He is a leftist idiot. No way he can admit Trump’s plan is working.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Trump never wanted a 145% tariff. He is getting exactly what he wanted. Your TDS is making you look really stupid.

China had much higher tariffs on us before , now we have higher tariffs on them until a permanent deal is reached. And somehow you call this Trump losing.

Moron.

I know he didn't want 145%, however, they should have held the line at 80%. Basically he has rewarded China for hitting the U.S economy with tariffs, rather than the line "dont retaliate and you will be treated better".

The CCP have too much information, they may bend slightly but they wont break. They have a whole 10% more to have to pay. Chicken feed.

I dont have TDS, I call it straight. I want the West to win not the rest of the world to become like Canada.

 

[TimFitz]

Did I say "trade deal?"

Spare me the snide remarks, please.

Trump did. And we all know the announcement of having something is the whole deal for Trump.

He's great at making big but vague announcements followed up with nothing.

We're still waiting for his big beautiful health care plan.

 

[j-mac]

Something Mac knows nothing about.

He doesn’t even have the courage to defend his positions. He’s a loser.

 

[TimFitz]

I know he didn't want 145%, however, they should have held the line at 80%. Basically he has rewarded China for hitting the U.S economy with tariffs, rather than the line "dont retaliate and you will be treated better".

The CCP have too much information, they may bend slightly but they wont break. They have a whole 10% more to have to pay. Chicken feed.

I dont have TDS, I call it straight. I want the West to win not the rest of the world to become like Canada.

The Chinese knew Trump was going to do something reckless (he always does) with tarrifs (he bellowed it all last year).

So, when Trump made his play, they were ready for him.

Now the control the deal. Dispite Trump's bellowing.

 

[Nostra]

What is the upside to lowering tariffs for 90 days?

I dont see any

There are a ton of non-tariff realty barriers to be negotiated. This gives them time to work out a comprehensive deal without the impact of higher tariffs.

People who claim there is no way Trump will raise the tariffs if talks fail are morons.

 

[Nostra]

The Chinese knew Trump was going to do something reckless (he always does) with tarrifs (he bellowed it all last year).

So, when Trump made his play, they were ready for him.

Now the control the deal. Dispite Trump's bellowing.

See post 57.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Why do we want to trade with China? Asking for a friend.

 

[shockedcanadian]

What is the upside to lowering tariffs for 90 days?

I dont see any

This is what people cannot objectively state. The "negotiation" with China was basically to let the nation that exports hundreds of billions more into the U.S and takes industries to NOT have to pay the big tariff increase anymore.

The 90 day period of discussions for which any deal the Chinese will disregard anyways will just become a permanent pause.

Trumps core supporters, those in manufacturing and who want to confront China see this as a major capitulation.

 

[j-mac]

Trump did. And we all know the announcement of having something is the whole deal for Trump.

He's great at making big but vague announcements followed up with nothing.

We're still waiting for his big beautiful health care plan.

Pretty pathetic that’s all you have to say, is trolling topics wildly…You’re proving that dems are just sub standard humans…Wise up boy.

 

[Mac-7]

There are a ton of non-tariff realty barriers to be negotiated. This gives them time to work out a comprehensive deal without the impact of higher tariffs.

People who claim there is no way Trump will raise the tariffs if talks fail are morons.

Its the impact of US tariffs that brought china to the negotiating table to begin with

Now trump has lowered the pressure on them

 

[Nostra]

I know he didn't want 145%, however, they should have held the line at 80%. Basically he has rewarded China for hitting the U.S economy with tariffs, rather than the line "dont retaliate and you will be treated better".

The CCP have too much information, they may bend slightly but they wont break. They have a whole 10% more to have to pay. Chicken feed.

I dont have TDS, I call it straight. I want the West to win not the rest of the world to become like Canada.

What is magical about 80%? If you think Trump won’t raise them back up if China starts messing around you are a moron.

 

[Nostra]

Trump did. And we all know the announcement of having something is the whole deal for Trump.

He's great at making big but vague announcements followed up with nothing.

We're still waiting for his big beautiful health care plan.

It’s a 90 day deal. You clowns are looking really stupid right now,

 

[shockedcanadian]

What is magical about 80%? If you think Trump won’t raise them back up if China starts messing around you are a moron.

Trump will not raise the tariffs back to 145%.
Would you like to wager differently?

He will NOT raise it back to that level for any meaningful period of time. Even if China walks away. Even if China laughs at the U.S and makes more videos mocking their citizens.

He will not raise the tariffs back to 145% unless for a few days, maybe a week, to say "hey I kept my promise".

 

[Mac-7]

This is what people cannot objectively state. The "negotiation" with China was basically to let the nation that exports hundreds of billions more into the U.S and takes industries to NOT have to pay the big tariff increase anymore.

The 90 day period of discussions for which any deal the Chinese will disregard anyways will just become a permanent pause.

Trumps core supporters, those in manufacturing and who want to confront China see this as a major capitulation.

China WILL NOT agree to any settlement in 90 days

But they will agree to an additional 90 days to talk about it some more

 

[Nostra]

This is what people cannot objectively state. The "negotiation" with China was basically to let the nation that exports hundreds of billions more into the U.S and takes industries to NOT have to pay the big tariff increase anymore.

The 90 day period of discussions for which any deal the Chinese will disregard anyways will just become a permanent pause.

Trumps core supporters, those in manufacturing and who want to confront China see this as a major capitulation.

The markets say you are an idiot.

 

[shockedcanadian]

The markets say you are an idiot.

If he governs what the market wants why would you need to elect a Trump as president, you could just elect any old Establishment politician to maintain the status quo.

 

[Nostra]

Its the impact of US tariffs that brought china to the negotiating table to begin with

Now trump has lowered the pressure on them

He can always ramp the pressure back up. No reason to not throw them a bone if they are at the table negotiating a permanent deal in good faith.

 

[Nostra]

Trump will not raise the tariffs back to 145%.
Would you like to wager differently?

He will NOT raise it back to that level for any meaningful period of time. Even if China walks away. Even if China laughs at the U.S and makes more videos mocking their citizens.

He will not raise the tariffs back to 145% unless for a few days, maybe a week, to say "hey I kept my promise".

I deal in reality. I’ll let you make up scenarios to piss and moan about, Simp.