The unsustainability of "green" energy

[ABikerSailor]

What an ass you are. The contamination of the land was done by a prior business. And the state stated that the land was clean. Going to be some culpability on the part of the state, and the prior owner, if they are not bankrupt.

Given that there are many utilities in many states actively working to put companies like Solar City out of business. However, that will, in the end, result in those utilities going out of business themselves. We are going to see a distributed grid in the near future, and will see federal laws stating that all generation from whatever source has to have access to the grid at prevailing rates.

That fools like you don't like any kind of change is clearly evident. You are the kind that refuse vaccines, and think if it doesn't go V-ROOM--V-ROOM, it can't be mobile. Well, stand back, Charley, much of the future is already here, and it doesn't give a damn about losers like you.

Wow....someone is angry. The wrong and the uninformed usually are. For starters - I'm fine with change. What I don't like is failure. And that's what idiot liberalism gives us: failure. Force us to spend tens of millions of dollars on a technology that gives us the energy equivalent of a AAA battery. That's stupid on a level that could only come from liberalism. Stand back junior. Let the adults handle reality. You just play with your toys in the corner and will make sure your fed and your little chin is wiped.

Yanno...................a cell phone at full charge requires a lot more than the equivalent of just one AAA battery. They require a lot more than that, and I know, because I have lights that use a full THREE AAA batteries, and they don't last that long.

Interestingly enough, there are solar powered chargers that have a grand total of about one and a half of square feet in area, that can charge that same phone to full power in about 3 hours.

Oh yeah.................by the way.....................you can hook up a battery charger to the same solar panel and charge up 4 AAA batteries in about the same amount of time.

Battery Joe's in Amarillo TX is where I saw them.

 

[MisterBeale]

So you think we have an energy problem?


No, we have a political problem.

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[P@triot]

LOL. Why sure you are just fine with failure. After all, you predicted a Romney Landslide. LOL

Wind is now the most economical way to produce electricity. And, as soon as the grid scale batteries go into full production, will become an even bigger component of the grid. As of the end of 2015, there is 74,332 mw of installed wind in the US.

WINDExchange: U.S. Installed Wind Capacity

Solar capacity is now at 13,406 mw, not counting rooftop solar. Solar generation put on the grid was 12,141 million kwh.

Care to add any more comments proving how stupid that you can be?

Old Rocks is an old buffoon. Solar capacity is now at 13,406mw? Really? That's fantastic. Except that you're adding all solar panels in America combined jack-ass. We're talking about a single panel, stupid. How much does a single solar panel produce? Next to nothing. And what does it cost? At the very lowest end, $10,000. At the high end, over $14,000. It takes 4 solar panels to run an entire home. That means you're looking at anywhere from $40,000 to $56,000 to run your home (don't try to do the math old idiot, you'll only hurt your brain - just trust us on this one). Considering my electric bill runs between $100 - $200 per month, that means I'm roughly around 30 years of electric bills before I just break even on the investment of the idiot failed solar technology. And guess what is going to happen during those 30 years? The panels will need to be replaced jack ass. They won't last 30 years.

Thank you for posting and showing everyone what an idiot you are. Would you like to double-down and try again? Dumb-ass.

 

[P@triot]

After all, you predicted a Romney Landslide.

The media predicted a Romney landslide jack-ass. I simply shared the information that made you vagina get all tied up in knots. And in all fairness to the media - they couldn't account for the rampant voter fraud by Dumbocrats. They also couldn't account for the voter suppression through the IRS at the direction of Obama. Lastly, they couldn't anticipate that Obama would release a falsified jobs report before the November elections. All of it has been proven dumb-ass. Much like your ignorance.

 

[P@triot]

Oh the irony.... We have to listen to liberal bleeding heart nonsense about how they are so heartbroken for so many that are suffering while the "evil" 1% swims in a sea of wealth. And yet here they are adamantly supporting then devious "green" agenda which will make millions suffer while Al Gore and few other liberal masters get filthy rich...

University of Cambridge engineering professor warns that the globalist effort to cut carbon emissions will result in widespread poverty, starvation, and civil strife.
“Over the last 200 years, fossil fuels have provided the route out of grinding poverty for many people in the world,” writes M.J. Kelly. “A rapid decarbonization is simply impossible over the next 20 years unless the trend of a growing number who succeed to improve their lot is stalled by rich and middle-class people downgrading their own standard of living.”

Rapid decarbonization, as proposed by the 21st Conference of the Parties (COP21) in Paris, will result in “large parts of the population [dying] from starvation, destitution or violence in the absence of enough low-carbon energy to sustain society.”

Engineer: Decarbonization Will Result in Mass Starvation, Poverty, Civil Strife

 

[ABikerSailor]

You seem to keep trying to keep this thread alive by posting a whole lot of bullshit.

Got news for you, nobody cares, because if they did, this thread would have a whole lot more going on for it.

I'm just posting for the irony.

 

[Old Rocks]

So you think we have an energy problem?


No, we have a political problem.

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Yep.
A bunch of fucked up knownothing "Conservatives" standing in the way of progress in the 21st century. They simply cannot get their minds out of the 19th century.

 

[Old Rocks]

LOL. Why sure you are just fine with failure. After all, you predicted a Romney Landslide. LOL

Wind is now the most economical way to produce electricity. And, as soon as the grid scale batteries go into full production, will become an even bigger component of the grid. As of the end of 2015, there is 74,332 mw of installed wind in the US.

WINDExchange: U.S. Installed Wind Capacity

Solar capacity is now at 13,406 mw, not counting rooftop solar. Solar generation put on the grid was 12,141 million kwh.

Care to add any more comments proving how stupid that you can be?

Old Rocks is an old buffoon. Solar capacity is now at 13,406mw? Really? That's fantastic. Except that you're adding all solar panels in America combined jack-ass. We're talking about a single panel, stupid. How much does a single solar panel produce? Next to nothing. And what does it cost? At the very lowest end, $10,000. At the high end, over $14,000. It takes 4 solar panels to run an entire home. That means you're looking at anywhere from $40,000 to $56,000 to run your home (don't try to do the math old idiot, you'll only hurt your brain - just trust us on this one). Considering my electric bill runs between $100 - $200 per month, that means I'm roughly around 30 years of electric bills before I just break even on the investment of the idiot failed solar technology. And guess what is going to happen during those 30 years? The panels will need to be replaced jack ass. They won't last 30 years.

Thank you for posting and showing everyone what an idiot you are. Would you like to double-down and try again? Dumb-ass.

My goodness, Patriot, what a fucked up liar you are. Is this the way you conduct business in real life?

Suniva - Wholesale Solar

At this site you can find a single Suniva panel, 340 watts, for $340 dollars. Or you can buy a pallet of 25 panels, 285 watts each, for $7000, that represents 7125 watts of generation.

And that is just one wholesale house. Google wholesale solar, and you can find whole systems for sale for far less than the amount that you claim.

Also, note that the numbers stated were for solar, not counting the rooftop.

 

[Old Rocks]

Oh the irony.... We have to listen to liberal bleeding heart nonsense about how they are so heartbroken for so many that are suffering while the "evil" 1% swims in a sea of wealth. And yet here they are adamantly supporting then devious "green" agenda which will make millions suffer while Al Gore and few other liberal masters get filthy rich...

University of Cambridge engineering professor warns that the globalist effort to cut carbon emissions will result in widespread poverty, starvation, and civil strife.
“Over the last 200 years, fossil fuels have provided the route out of grinding poverty for many people in the world,” writes M.J. Kelly. “A rapid decarbonization is simply impossible over the next 20 years unless the trend of a growing number who succeed to improve their lot is stalled by rich and middle-class people downgrading their own standard of living.”

Rapid decarbonization, as proposed by the 21st Conference of the Parties (COP21) in Paris, will result in “large parts of the population [dying] from starvation, destitution or violence in the absence of enough low-carbon energy to sustain society.”

Engineer: Decarbonization Will Result in Mass Starvation, Poverty, Civil Strife

So full of shit you are. Assholes from the fossil fuel industry crying about the fact that for many small third world nations, the alternatives, wind and solar, are far cheaper for them than fossil fuels. And that is the way they will go.

 

[Old Rocks]

LOL. Alex Jones. So that is where you get your information. LOL

 

[P@triot]

LOL. Why sure you are just fine with failure. After all, you predicted a Romney Landslide. LOL

Wind is now the most economical way to produce electricity. And, as soon as the grid scale batteries go into full production, will become an even bigger component of the grid. As of the end of 2015, there is 74,332 mw of installed wind in the US.

WINDExchange: U.S. Installed Wind Capacity

Solar capacity is now at 13,406 mw, not counting rooftop solar. Solar generation put on the grid was 12,141 million kwh.

Care to add any more comments proving how stupid that you can be?

Old Rocks is an old buffoon. Solar capacity is now at 13,406mw? Really? That's fantastic. Except that you're adding all solar panels in America combined jack-ass. We're talking about a single panel, stupid. How much does a single solar panel produce? Next to nothing. And what does it cost? At the very lowest end, $10,000. At the high end, over $14,000. It takes 4 solar panels to run an entire home. That means you're looking at anywhere from $40,000 to $56,000 to run your home (don't try to do the math old idiot, you'll only hurt your brain - just trust us on this one). Considering my electric bill runs between $100 - $200 per month, that means I'm roughly around 30 years of electric bills before I just break even on the investment of the idiot failed solar technology. And guess what is going to happen during those 30 years? The panels will need to be replaced jack ass. They won't last 30 years.

Thank you for posting and showing everyone what an idiot you are. Would you like to double-down and try again? Dumb-ass.

My goodness, Patriot, what a fucked up liar you are. Is this the way you conduct business in real life?

Suniva - Wholesale Solar

At this site you can find a single Suniva panel, 340 watts, for $340 dollars. Or you can buy a pallet of 25 panels, 285 watts each, for $7000, that represents 7125 watts of generation.

And that is just one wholesale house. Google wholesale solar, and you can find whole systems for sale for far less than the amount that you claim.

Also, note that the numbers stated were for solar, not counting the rooftop.

Bwahahahaha! Please keep posting? Please??? Each time you post you show everyone want an ignorant little ****-tart you are. First you start off by saying that solar panels produce over 13,000 mega-watts of electricity. Then when I expose the fact that you're talking about every solar panel installed across the entire United States and expose you for the ignorant fool that you are (who can't even read and comprehend the discussion at hand), you back track with this laughable and asinine lie that you can run an entire home off solar panels for $300. Here are the facts asshat (right from the front page of Google):

At the time of this writing, the installed cost of solar panels was between $7-$9 per watt: A 5 kW system would cost around $25,000-$35,000. Many utility companies offer incentives, and some subsidize as much as 50% of system costs.

How Much Do Solar Panels Cost to Install on a US Home?
https://www.solarpowerauthority.com/how-much-does-it-cost-to-install-solar-on-an-aver...

I said around $40,000 on my low end and they are showing $35,000 on their high end - so I was right around the accurate price. I watched a special where they put them in to run an entire house off the grid asshole and it took four of those massive panels at around $10,000 - $12,000 per panel. So they've apparently come down a little bit. One would still have to a monumental asshole to drop $35k when that's like 30 years of electric bills off of traditional energy (and during those 30 years those panels will have to be replaced, repaired, maintenance, etc.).

 

[P@triot]

LOL. Alex Jones. So that is where you get your information. LOL

At least I get information. You don't even do that Mr. "It Cost $300 to install enough solar panels to run an entire home".

By the way - that didn't come from Alex Jones you ****'n moron. It came from Michael J. Kelly - a University of Cambridge engineering professor you tool. Do you have any idea how dumb you look trying to attribute information from a Cambridge engineering professor to Alex Jones?!?!

It was InfoWars that simply reported on the story.

 

[P@triot]

So full of shit you are. Assholes from the fossil fuel industry crying about the fact that for many small third world nations, the alternatives, wind and solar, are far cheaper for them than fossil fuels. And that is the way they will go.

Oh yeah....$35,000 - $40,000 just to have enough solar panels to run a basic home is soooooooo much "cheaper". ****'n moron :elsa_doh:

 

[MisterBeale]

So you think we have an energy problem?


No, we have a political problem.

index

Yep.
A bunch of fucked up knownothing "Conservatives" standing in the way of progress in the 21st century. They simply cannot get their minds out of the 19th century.

Why is suppression of energy technology by the Deep State a conservative issue?

 

[P@triot]

A bunch of fucked up knownothing "Conservatives" standing in the way of progress in the 21st century. They simply cannot get their minds out of the 19th century.

Typical liberal asshole. First, illustrates his illiteracy by spelling know-nothing as "knownothing" (it's not one word stupid). Second, he speaks about "progress" but only if someone else is paying for it. You won't see Old Greedy dig into his pockets and pony up the cash for "green" R&D. Nope. He wants government to place a gun to my head and make me pay for it. Typical greedy, selfish, liberal.

 

[Old Rocks]

LOL. Why sure you are just fine with failure. After all, you predicted a Romney Landslide. LOL

Wind is now the most economical way to produce electricity. And, as soon as the grid scale batteries go into full production, will become an even bigger component of the grid. As of the end of 2015, there is 74,332 mw of installed wind in the US.

WINDExchange: U.S. Installed Wind Capacity

Solar capacity is now at 13,406 mw, not counting rooftop solar. Solar generation put on the grid was 12,141 million kwh.

Care to add any more comments proving how stupid that you can be?

Old Rocks is an old buffoon. Solar capacity is now at 13,406mw? Really? That's fantastic. Except that you're adding all solar panels in America combined jack-ass. We're talking about a single panel, stupid. How much does a single solar panel produce? Next to nothing. And what does it cost? At the very lowest end, $10,000. At the high end, over $14,000. It takes 4 solar panels to run an entire home. That means you're looking at anywhere from $40,000 to $56,000 to run your home (don't try to do the math old idiot, you'll only hurt your brain - just trust us on this one). Considering my electric bill runs between $100 - $200 per month, that means I'm roughly around 30 years of electric bills before I just break even on the investment of the idiot failed solar technology. And guess what is going to happen during those 30 years? The panels will need to be replaced jack ass. They won't last 30 years.

Thank you for posting and showing everyone what an idiot you are. Would you like to double-down and try again? Dumb-ass.

My goodness, Patriot, what a fucked up liar you are. Is this the way you conduct business in real life?

Suniva - Wholesale Solar

At this site you can find a single Suniva panel, 340 watts, for $340 dollars. Or you can buy a pallet of 25 panels, 285 watts each, for $7000, that represents 7125 watts of generation.

And that is just one wholesale house. Google wholesale solar, and you can find whole systems for sale for far less than the amount that you claim.

Also, note that the numbers stated were for solar, not counting the rooftop.

Bwahahahaha! Please keep posting? Please??? Each time you post you show everyone want an ignorant little ****-tart you are. First you start off by saying that solar panels produce over 13,000 mega-watts of electricity. Then when I expose the fact that you're talking about every solar panel installed across the entire United States and expose you for the ignorant fool that you are (who can't even read and comprehend the discussion at hand), you back track with this laughable and asinine lie that you can run an entire home off solar panels for $300. Here are the facts asshat (right from the front page of Google):

At the time of this writing, the installed cost of solar panels was between $7-$9 per watt: A 5 kW system would cost around $25,000-$35,000. Many utility companies offer incentives, and some subsidize as much as 50% of system costs.

How Much Do Solar Panels Cost to Install on a US Home?
https://www.solarpowerauthority.com/how-much-does-it-cost-to-install-solar-on-an-aver...

I said around $40,000 on my low end and they are showing $35,000 on their high end - so I was right around the accurate price. I watched a special where they put them in to run an entire house off the grid asshole and it took four of those massive panels at around $10,000 - $12,000 per panel. So they've apparently come down a little bit. One would still have to a monumental asshole to drop $35k when that's like 30 years of electric bills off of traditional energy (and during those 30 years those panels will have to be replaced, repaired, maintenance, etc.).

Here is what you said;

" How much does a single solar panel produce? Next to nothing. And what does it cost? At the very lowest end, $10,000. At the high end, over $14,000. It takes 4 solar panels to run an entire home."

I pointed out two panels that produced 285 and 340 watts. And pointed out that enough panels to two a house, over 7 kw worth, was only $7000. Now here is a company where you can get a complete 6.84 kw system for $11,855;

Grid tie Solar Power Systems for your home - Grid-tie Home Solar Panel Systems

Now if you are of reasonable intellect, you can do the work yourself. All you need to do is hire an electrician to hook the system into you box.

 

[ABikerSailor]

P@triot is a confused individual. I just did a Google search for "buy home solar panels", and I saw that you could get a 6.3 KW grid tied system for around 9,900 dollars (and being tied into the grid means that when you make more than you use, the power company has to pay YOU for the electricity).

That was at the high end.

At the low end was a solar panel that was 4 ft by 12 ft for 173.37.

Nope............P@triot is full of crap.

Google

 

[P@triot]

P@triot is a confused individual. I just did a Google search for "buy home solar panels", and I saw that you could get a 6.3 KW grid tied system for around 9,900 dollars (and being tied into the grid means that when you make more than you use, the power company has to pay YOU for the electricity).

That was at the high end.

At the low end was a solar panel that was 4 ft by 12 ft for 173.37.

Nope............P@triot is full of crap.

Google

The link is above junior. You can't read, you can't click, and you can't Google. No wonder you need government to take care of you.

 

[Old Rocks]

Well, Patriot, if you are too stupid to do that simple work yourself, you deserve to pay over $20,000 to have someone else do the work.

 

[P@triot]

Well, Patriot, if you are too stupid to do that simple work yourself, you deserve to pay over $20,000 to have someone else do the work.

If you're dumb enough to support the failed "green" energy then you deserve to pay $40,000 to have your house converted. I'll continue to drop a mere $1,200 per year in energy bills. You're so stupid you'll invest in something that requires 40 years just to break even on your ROI (I'd tell you to Google that but you've already proven you're incapable of using a computer or Google).