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Maybe they should have thought of this before they invaded our Country and bombed Pearl Harbor. What did they think was going to happen.Americans need to come to the realization that the bombings of civilians was really mass murder, not unlike what Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan were guilty of.
Great column on the subject.
The Atomic Bombing of Japan, Reconsidered
By Alan Mosley
Mises.org
January 2, 2019
Russia’s move, in fact, compelled the Japanese to consider unconditional surrender; until then, they were only open to a conditional surrender that left their Emperor Hirohito some dignity and protections from war-crimes trials. Ward concludes that, as in the European theatre, Truman didn’t beat Japan; Stalin did.
Harry Truman never expressed regret publicly over his decision to use the atomic bombs. However, he did order an independent study on the state of the war effort leading up to August of 1945, and the strategic value of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings. In 1946, the U.S. Bombing Survey published its findings, which concluded as follows: “Based on a detailed investigation of all the facts and supported by the testimony of the surviving Japanese leaders involved, it is the Survey’s opinion that certainly prior to 31 December 1945 and in all probability prior to 1 November 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war, and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated.” This is an intensive condemnation of Truman’s decision, seeing as Russia did enter the war, and that plans for an invasion had been developed.
As Timothy P. Carney writesfor the Washington Examiner, the fog of war can be a tricky thing. But if we’re forced to side with Truman, or Eisenhower and the other dissenting military leaders, the Eisenhower position isn’t merely valid; it actually aligns better with some fundamental American values. Given all the uncertainty, both at the time and with modern historical revisionism, it’s better to look to principle rather than fortune-telling. One principle that should be near the top of everyone’s list is this: it’s wrong to target civilians with weapons of mass destruction. The deliberate killing of innocent men, women, and children by the hundreds of thousandscannot be justified under any circumstances, much less the ambiguous ones Truman encountered. Whether his decision was motivated by indignation toward Japanese “ pigheadedness” or concern for his troops, Truman’s use of such devastating weapons against non-combatants should not be excused. Americans must strive for complete and honest analysis of the past (and present) conflicts. And if she is to remain true to her own ideals, America must strive for more noble and moral ends—in all conflicts, domestic and foreign—guided by our most cherished first principles, such as the Golden Rule. At the very least, Americans should not try so hard to justify mass murder.
The Atomic Bombing of Japan - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com
So they didn’t initiate anything?So in your mind the US was fully justified in mass murdering hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians because 2400 US military personnel died at Pearl Harbor.
Okay. Sure.
So, again, you justify mass murdering women and children because their government attacked a military base. CRAZY!Maybe they should have thought of this before they invaded our Country and bombed Pearl Harbor. What did they think was going to happen.
So they didn’t initiate anything?
Ok, Sure.
"invaded"?Maybe they should have thought of this before they invaded our Country and bombed Pearl Harbor. What did they think was going to happen.
So they didn’t initiate anything?
Ok, Sure.
I don't see myself being "off topic" at all - since my posts in this section are all referring to Imperial Japanese aggression since the 1880's, culminating into a war with the USA starting off on December 7th 1941 and ending rather abruptly [thanks to two very powerful bombs] on August 15th 1945 - officially being signed on September 2nd, 1945. By then Imperial Japan had murdered/killed approximately 20+ million civilians since the 1880's. Including around a million or two of their own population due to being more or less defenseless against US and Allied military retaliation, in a war of aggressive military expansionism they had kicked of since the 1880's and decided to pursue till Booom, Booom.Since we’re off topic, how about USG aggression the past few decades? Any idea how many have died?
What would you call the act of taking possession via military units of another countries territory? making holiday?"invaded"?
See nothing wrong with them"invaded"?
bombing the HELL out of Pearl Harbor??
No answer to my questionSo, again, you justify mass murdering women and children because their government attacked a military base. CRAZY!
Think better you dumb warmongering statist.
Typical dumb American. Thinks his nation is above criticism or blame, but those Japanese just so awful.I don't see myself being "off topic" at all - since my posts in this section are all referring to Imperial Japanese aggression since the 1880's, culminating into a war with the USA starting off on December 7th 1941 and ending rather abruptly [thanks to two very powerful bombs] on August 15th 1945 - officially being signed on September 2nd, 1945. By then Imperial Japan had murdered/killed approximately 20+ million civilians since the 1880's. Including around a million or two of their own population due to being more or less defenseless against US and Allied military retaliation, in a war of aggressive military expansionism they had kicked of since the 1880's and decided to pursue till Booom, Booom.
If you want to start a new thread to talk/post about US aggression of the past few decades and it's victims - be my guest.
“Invaded”?See nothing wrong with them
See above response. What would you call it?“Invaded”?
I would suggest you buy a dictionary, and a calendar.See above response. What would you call it?
Guam, the Philippines and Alaska were all US Territory you moron. That means Japan DID in FACT invade the US. Ohh I forgot Wake as well,I would suggest you buy a dictionary, and a calendar.
No, they weren't. Or perhaps unlike everyone else on this thread YOU can post the offer to surrender made by the Japanese Government before the first bomb was dropped? Even after the 1st bomb the Government of Japan REFUSED to surrender and after the second bomb, they refused again the Emperor overrode them and for that the Army staged a failed Coup to try and stop him.Japan was ready to surrender but Truman ordered the military to drop the A bomb anyway.
No if you bothered to actually read my post, you would see the Japanese were husbanding their resources for their climactic battle where they intended to kill so many Americans that American citizens would sicken of the killing and give Japan favorable peace terms. They intended to drown the invaders in a sea of American AND JAPANESE blood in a calculated bid to “win” the war. Do some research, that was their strategic plan, they knew they couldn’t defeat the US, so they wanted us to defeat ourselves.Yet daylight bombing of Japan was the norm. Little to no resistance from Japan occurred. Why? They were defenseless.
Yes, the Japanese invaded Attu and Kiska Islands which were part of the USA proper, and the Philippines and Guam which were American territories."invaded"?
and Wake IslandYes, the Japanese invaded Attu and Kiska Islands which were part of the USA proper, and the Philippines and Guam which were American territories.
You’ll believe anything to support a corrupt state.No if you bothered to actually read my post, you would see the Japanese were husbanding their resources for their climactic battle where they intended to kill so many Americans that American citizens would sicken of the killing and give Japan favorable peace terms. They intended to drown the invaders in a sea of American AND JAPANESE blood in a calculated bid to “win” the war. Do some research, that was their strategic plan, they knew they couldn’t defeat the US, so they wanted us to defeat ourselves.
LOL a history teacher DISAGREES with actual History. Tell shit boy what was Alaska, Guam, and the Philippines in WW2? Who owned them you fucking retard?Guam, the Philippines and Alaska were all US Territory you moron. That means Japan DID in FACT invade the US. Ohh I forgot Wake as well,
