The truth about Truman’s bombing Japan

[elektra]

Japan also made multiple attempts to end the war through Sweden and Portugal, who were neutral at the time. They also approached Soviet Russia’s leaders “with a view of terminating the war if possible by September.” (source)

General Eisenhower was never the Supreme Commander of all Allied Forces! He was the commander of Europe, nothing more. I detected this glaring lie in about 10 seconds, as it is in the first paragraph of your link.

Yes, it is lie. When one takes the time to create a webpage, cherry pick information, a present it to the public online, it is not simply a mistake. It is an outright lie. The author of your revisionist history is hoping that all who read his crap are ignorant of history.

Your source is useless, it is tainted, it is biased, it is lies and propaganda. It is how they begin the rant, most likely how they end the rant.

We can not intelligently discuss your comments until you can provide a source without lies.

General (and later president) Dwight Eisenhower – then Supreme Commander of all Allied Forces, and the officer who created most of America’s WWII military plans for Europe and Japan – said:

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Logic would say Ike did know and did disagree

His famous speech to the nation after leaving office was

Beware of the military industrial complex !!!!!

That proves he knew and was against it

 

[elektra]

Logic would say Ike did know and did disagree

His famous speech to the nation after leaving office was

Beware of the military industrial complex !!!!!

That proves he knew and was against it

Logic says ike knew cause of a speech? I say the contradictions in his story, zero collaberation proves otherwise.

 

[xband]

Americans need to come to the realization that the bombings of civilians was really mass murder, not unlike what Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan were guilty of.

Great column on the subject.

The Atomic Bombing of Japan, Reconsidered
By Alan Mosley
Mises.org

January 2, 2019

Russia’s move, in fact, compelled the Japanese to consider unconditional surrender; until then, they were only open to a conditional surrender that left their Emperor Hirohito some dignity and protections from war-crimes trials. Ward concludes that, as in the European theatre, Truman didn’t beat Japan; Stalin did.

Harry Truman never expressed regret publicly over his decision to use the atomic bombs. However, he did order an independent study on the state of the war effort leading up to August of 1945, and the strategic value of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings. In 1946, the U.S. Bombing Survey published its findings, which concluded as follows: “Based on a detailed investigation of all the facts and supported by the testimony of the surviving Japanese leaders involved, it is the Survey’s opinion that certainly prior to 31 December 1945 and in all probability prior to 1 November 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war, and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated.” This is an intensive condemnation of Truman’s decision, seeing as Russia did enter the war, and that plans for an invasion had been developed.

As Timothy P. Carney writes for the Washington Examiner, the fog of war can be a tricky thing. But if we’re forced to side with Truman, or Eisenhower and the other dissenting military leaders, the Eisenhower position isn’t merely valid; it actually aligns better with some fundamental American values. Given all the uncertainty, both at the time and with modern historical revisionism, it’s better to look to principle rather than fortune-telling. One principle that should be near the top of everyone’s list is this: it’s wrong to target civilians with weapons of mass destruction. The deliberate killing of innocent men, women, and children by the hundreds of thousands cannot be justified under any circumstances, much less the ambiguous ones Truman encountered. Whether his decision was motivated by indignation toward Japanese “ pigheadedness” or concern for his troops, Truman’s use of such devastating weapons against non-combatants should not be excused. Americans must strive for complete and honest analysis of the past (and present) conflicts. And if she is to remain true to her own ideals, America must strive for more noble and moral ends—in all conflicts, domestic and foreign—guided by our most cherished first principles, such as the Golden Rule. At the very least, Americans should not try so hard to justify mass murder.

The Atomic Bombing of Japan - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

Truman was a short man and I met him in The Truman Presidential Library in 1963, Dad asked why did you fire MacArthur and he said because he failed to obey the Commander in Chief, Mom asked why did you drop the bomb and he said to save American lives. Then he came to me wanting to know what I think and I was dumbfounded and said nothing, Truman said study History and then he went to my little sister who started crying and he comforted her. I shook hands with the man!

 

[mikegriffith1]

The claim that Hiroshima was a military target is indefensible, if not a bit obscene. The fact that Truman initially claimed that Hiroshima was "a military base" and that it was chosen as the first target in order to minimize "the killing of civilians" suggests that Truman did not want the American people to know the truth about Hiroshima and/or that he was deluding himself about what he had done.

Ralph Raico, a professor of history at Buffalo State College, had this to say about Truman's claim:

This, however, is absurd. Pearl Harbor was a military base. Hiroshima was a city, inhabited by some three hundred thousand people, which contained military elements. In any case, since the harbor was mined and the US Navy and Air Force were in control of the waters around Japan, whatever troops were stationed in Hiroshima had been effectively neutralized.​

On other occasions, Truman claimed that Hiroshima was bombed because it was an industrial center. But, as noted in the US Strategic Bombing Survey, "all major factories in Hiroshima were on the periphery of the city" and escaped serious damage.[4] The target was the center of the city. That Truman realized the kind of victims the bombs consumed is evident from his comment to his cabinet on August 10, explaining his reluctance to drop a third bomb: "The thought of wiping out another 100,000 people was too horrible," he said; he didn't like the idea of killing "all those kids."[5] Wiping out another one hundred thousand people . . . all those kids. . . .​

The atomic bombings were condemned as barbaric and unnecessary by high American military officers, including Eisenhower and MacArthur.[10] The view of Admiral William D. Leahy, Truman's own chief of staff, was typical:​

"The use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make wars in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children."[11] (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2010/11/...against-japan/)​

 

[gipper]

The claim that Hiroshima was a military target is indefensible, if not a bit obscene. The fact that Truman initially claimed that Hiroshima was "a military base" and that it was chosen as the first target in order to minimize "the killing of civilians" suggests that Truman did not want the American people to know the truth about Hiroshima and/or that he was deluding himself about what he had done.

Ralph Raico, a professor of history at Buffalo State College, had this to say about Truman's claim:

This, however, is absurd. Pearl Harbor was a military base. Hiroshima was a city, inhabited by some three hundred thousand people, which contained military elements. In any case, since the harbor was mined and the US Navy and Air Force were in control of the waters around Japan, whatever troops were stationed in Hiroshima had been effectively neutralized.​

On other occasions, Truman claimed that Hiroshima was bombed because it was an industrial center. But, as noted in the US Strategic Bombing Survey, "all major factories in Hiroshima were on the periphery of the city" and escaped serious damage.[4] The target was the center of the city. That Truman realized the kind of victims the bombs consumed is evident from his comment to his cabinet on August 10, explaining his reluctance to drop a third bomb: "The thought of wiping out another 100,000 people was too horrible," he said; he didn't like the idea of killing "all those kids."[5] Wiping out another one hundred thousand people . . . all those kids. . . .​

The atomic bombings were condemned as barbaric and unnecessary by high American military officers, including Eisenhower and MacArthur.[10] The view of Admiral William D. Leahy, Truman's own chief of staff, was typical:​

"The use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make wars in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children."[11] (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2010/11/...against-japan/)​

Ralph Raico is one of the best Americans to ever live. He was a genius. It was a terribly sad day when this great man died. If only all Americans read his works, we would be a much better country.

Yes, when Truman claimed Hiroshima was a military base, he clearly lied. Thus exposing his war crime. He should have been hung at Nuremberg.

 

[elektra]

The claim that Hiroshima was a military target is indefensible, if not a bit obscene. The fact that Truman initially claimed that Hiroshima was "a military base" and that it was chosen as the first target in order to minimize "the killing of civilians" suggests that Truman did not want the American people to know the truth about Hiroshima and/or that he was deluding himself about what he had done.

Ralph Raico, a professor of history at Buffalo State College, had this to say about Truman's claim:

This, however, is absurd. Pearl Harbor was a military base. Hiroshima was a city, inhabited by some three hundred thousand people, which contained military elements. In any case, since the harbor was mined and the US Navy and Air Force were in control of the waters around Japan, whatever troops were stationed in Hiroshima had been effectively neutralized.​

On other occasions, Truman claimed that Hiroshima was bombed because it was an industrial center. But, as noted in the US Strategic Bombing Survey, "all major factories in Hiroshima were on the periphery of the city" and escaped serious damage.[4] The target was the center of the city. That Truman realized the kind of victims the bombs consumed is evident from his comment to his cabinet on August 10, explaining his reluctance to drop a third bomb: "The thought of wiping out another 100,000 people was too horrible," he said; he didn't like the idea of killing "all those kids."[5] Wiping out another one hundred thousand people . . . all those kids. . . .​

The atomic bombings were condemned as barbaric and unnecessary by high American military officers, including Eisenhower and MacArthur.[10] The view of Admiral William D. Leahy, Truman's own chief of staff, was typical:​

"The use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make wars in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children."[11] (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2010/11/...against-japan/)​

Yet, 20,000 japanese soldiers died in the atomic blast?. Japan's 5th division and 2nd army headquarters where destroyed, unuseable. It was also a port and a communications center. More so seeings how tokoyo was largely destroyed. And yes, we bombed the center, not the outskirts, knowing that was the best way to wipe the entire city off the map.

As far as what you posted about what the "leaders" said, I say rubbish. Not one leader stated, to not drop the bomb, before it was dropped. Not one. If you think so, go ahead a post whatever you find. But remember, none of these people knew of the bomb. So you best find proof of stimson telling them and post that as well.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Einstein said the biggest mistake he ever made was writing that letter to Roosevelt. He said he wished someone had chopped off his fingers so he couldn't write that letter that got the Manhattan project started and the bomb

The way America delayed to enter the world had the other nations thinking America was either on the side of hitler or was trying to weaken the world so that they would have more influence

Russia lost over 20 million and China lost over 20 million and America half a million

Many nations became really scared of America and of war and worked things to get ready for the next one

China had abortions in such a way to increase their male and female ratio. So that they could lose 200 million men if needed in the next war


Today America's deep state has been caught cheating their own voters and today the world is very afraid

Trump is trying to stop the crooked deep state in order to avoid world war 111

Trump wants the other nations to progress too but not cheat America's progress

Trump may be the worlds last chance to avoid world war 111

 

[GreenAndBlue]

The claim that Hiroshima was a military target is indefensible, if not a bit obscene. The fact that Truman initially claimed that Hiroshima was "a military base" and that it was chosen as the first target in order to minimize "the killing of civilians" suggests that Truman did not want the American people to know the truth about Hiroshima and/or that he was deluding himself about what he had done.

Ralph Raico, a professor of history at Buffalo State College, had this to say about Truman's claim:

This, however, is absurd. Pearl Harbor was a military base. Hiroshima was a city, inhabited by some three hundred thousand people, which contained military elements. In any case, since the harbor was mined and the US Navy and Air Force were in control of the waters around Japan, whatever troops were stationed in Hiroshima had been effectively neutralized.​

On other occasions, Truman claimed that Hiroshima was bombed because it was an industrial center. But, as noted in the US Strategic Bombing Survey, "all major factories in Hiroshima were on the periphery of the city" and escaped serious damage.[4] The target was the center of the city. That Truman realized the kind of victims the bombs consumed is evident from his comment to his cabinet on August 10, explaining his reluctance to drop a third bomb: "The thought of wiping out another 100,000 people was too horrible," he said; he didn't like the idea of killing "all those kids."[5] Wiping out another one hundred thousand people . . . all those kids. . . .​

The atomic bombings were condemned as barbaric and unnecessary by high American military officers, including Eisenhower and MacArthur.[10] The view of Admiral William D. Leahy, Truman's own chief of staff, was typical:​

"The use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make wars in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children."[11] (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2010/11/...against-japan/)​

Yet, 20,000 japanese soldiers died in the atomic blast?. Japan's 5th division and 2nd army headquarters where destroyed, unuseable. It was also a port and a communications center. More so seeings how tokoyo was largely destroyed. And yes, we bombed the center, not the outskirts, knowing that was the best way to wipe the entire city off the map.

As far as what you posted about what the "leaders" said, I say rubbish. Not one leader stated, to not drop the bomb, before it was dropped. Not one. If you think so, go ahead a post whatever you find. But remember, none of these people knew of the bomb. So you best find proof of stimson telling them and post that as well.

Ike's talk to America after leaving office proves he knew and was against it


Beware of the military industrial complex

He was military and him saying that shows he sees insane greed is involved That proves he was against it and even said it. Because here he is saying the military complex has insane greed

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Logic would say Ike did know and did disagree

His famous speech to the nation after leaving office was

Beware of the military industrial complex !!!!!

That proves he knew and was against it

Logic says ike knew cause of a speech? I say the contradictions in his story, zero collaberation proves otherwise.

Ike was military and was trained to take orders

When Truman decided to drop the bomb Ike knew enough to know that something big was gonna happen.

But being military and made to obey he did not broadcast going against his commander in chief

So you wanted evidence of military men going against their chief is silly

Ike did broadcast that this insane greed was harmful with his speach to America

Beware of the military industrial complex !!

With that broadcast he was not going against orders of his commander in chief. He was the commander in chief !!

 

[Picaro]

The claim that Hiroshima was a military target is indefensible, if not a bit obscene. The fact that Truman initially claimed that Hiroshima was "a military base" and that it was chosen as the first target in order to minimize "the killing of civilians" suggests that Truman did not want the American people to know the truth about Hiroshima and/or that he was deluding himself about what he had done.

Ralph Raico, a professor of history at Buffalo State College, had this to say about Truman's claim:

This, however, is absurd. Pearl Harbor was a military base. Hiroshima was a city, inhabited by some three hundred thousand people, which contained military elements. In any case, since the harbor was mined and the US Navy and Air Force were in control of the waters around Japan, whatever troops were stationed in Hiroshima had been effectively neutralized.​

On other occasions, Truman claimed that Hiroshima was bombed because it was an industrial center. But, as noted in the US Strategic Bombing Survey, "all major factories in Hiroshima were on the periphery of the city" and escaped serious damage.[4] The target was the center of the city. That Truman realized the kind of victims the bombs consumed is evident from his comment to his cabinet on August 10, explaining his reluctance to drop a third bomb: "The thought of wiping out another 100,000 people was too horrible," he said; he didn't like the idea of killing "all those kids."[5] Wiping out another one hundred thousand people . . . all those kids. . . .​

The atomic bombings were condemned as barbaric and unnecessary by high American military officers, including Eisenhower and MacArthur.[10] The view of Admiral William D. Leahy, Truman's own chief of staff, was typical:​

"The use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make wars in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children."[11] (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2010/11/...against-japan/)​

Yet, 20,000 japanese soldiers died in the atomic blast?. Japan's 5th division and 2nd army headquarters where destroyed, unuseable. It was also a port and a communications center. More so seeings how tokoyo was largely destroyed. And yes, we bombed the center, not the outskirts, knowing that was the best way to wipe the entire city off the map.

As far as what you posted about what the "leaders" said, I say rubbish. Not one leader stated, to not drop the bomb, before it was dropped. Not one. If you think so, go ahead a post whatever you find. But remember, none of these people knew of the bomb. So you best find proof of stimson telling them and post that as well.

Ike's talk to America after leaving office proves he knew and was against it


Beware of the military industrial complex

He was military and him saying that shows he sees insane greed is involved That proves he was against it and even said it. Because here he is saying the military complex has insane greed

Yes, like I already pointed out, Ike didn't say squat until after he was out of office, so his 'speech' has little relevance and did no good. He waited until it was safe for him to do do so. He didn't do much about it as Pres, and went on to get involved in Viet Nam, Africa, the ME, and South America, with mixed results. Spending was a domestic issue, and has nothing to do with strategy re Japan 15 years after the war was over.

 

[Picaro]

Einstein said the biggest mistake he ever made was writing that letter to Roosevelt. He said he wished someone had chopped off his fingers so he couldn't write that letter that got the Manhattan project started and the bomb

The way America delayed to enter the world had the other nations thinking America was either on the side of hitler or was trying to weaken the world so that they would have more influence

Russia lost over 20 million and China lost over 20 million and America half a million

Many nations became really scared of America and of war and worked things to get ready for the next one

China had abortions in such a way to increase their male and female ratio. So that they could lose 200 million men if needed in the next war


Today America's deep state has been caught cheating their own voters and today the world is very afraid

Trump is trying to stop the crooked deep state in order to avoid world war 111

Trump wants the other nations to progress too but not cheat America's progress

Trump may be the worlds last chance to avoid world war 111

FDR and Truman were better geo-political strategists than Einstein, who had no clue what he was talking about, just parroting the usual commie 'peace at any price' nonsense popular with left wingers. Fact.

 

[gipper]

Einstein said the biggest mistake he ever made was writing that letter to Roosevelt. He said he wished someone had chopped off his fingers so he couldn't write that letter that got the Manhattan project started and the bomb

The way America delayed to enter the world had the other nations thinking America was either on the side of hitler or was trying to weaken the world so that they would have more influence

Russia lost over 20 million and China lost over 20 million and America half a million

Many nations became really scared of America and of war and worked things to get ready for the next one

China had abortions in such a way to increase their male and female ratio. So that they could lose 200 million men if needed in the next war


Today America's deep state has been caught cheating their own voters and today the world is very afraid

Trump is trying to stop the crooked deep state in order to avoid world war 111

Trump wants the other nations to progress too but not cheat America's progress

Trump may be the worlds last chance to avoid world war 111

FDR and Truman were better geo-political strategists than Einstein, who had no clue what he was talking about, just parroting the usual commie 'peace at any price' nonsense popular with left wingers. Fact.

LOL. FDR and Truman were criminals.

 

[elektra]

Logic would say Ike did know and did disagree

His famous speech to the nation after leaving office was

Beware of the military industrial complex !!!!!

That proves he knew and was against it

Logic says ike knew cause of a speech? I say the contradictions in his story, zero collaberation proves otherwise.

Ike was military and was trained to take orders

When Truman decided to drop the bomb Ike knew enough to know that something big was gonna happen.

But being military and made to obey he did not broadcast going against his commander in chief

So you wanted evidence of military men going against their chief is silly

Ike did broadcast that this insane greed was harmful with his speach to America

Beware of the military industrial complex !!

With that broadcast he was not going against orders of his commander in chief. He was the commander in chief !!

Ike? Against the bomb based on a speech. Right. Stimson never told Ike about the bomb. It is a shame we did not have one to drop on berlin, maybe then we would of found out what Ike thought. Politics after the face is just that. Politics.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

The claim that Hiroshima was a military target is indefensible, if not a bit obscene. The fact that Truman initially claimed that Hiroshima was "a military base" and that it was chosen as the first target in order to minimize "the killing of civilians" suggests that Truman did not want the American people to know the truth about Hiroshima and/or that he was deluding himself about what he had done.

Ralph Raico, a professor of history at Buffalo State College, had this to say about Truman's claim:

This, however, is absurd. Pearl Harbor was a military base. Hiroshima was a city, inhabited by some three hundred thousand people, which contained military elements. In any case, since the harbor was mined and the US Navy and Air Force were in control of the waters around Japan, whatever troops were stationed in Hiroshima had been effectively neutralized.​

On other occasions, Truman claimed that Hiroshima was bombed because it was an industrial center. But, as noted in the US Strategic Bombing Survey, "all major factories in Hiroshima were on the periphery of the city" and escaped serious damage.[4] The target was the center of the city. That Truman realized the kind of victims the bombs consumed is evident from his comment to his cabinet on August 10, explaining his reluctance to drop a third bomb: "The thought of wiping out another 100,000 people was too horrible," he said; he didn't like the idea of killing "all those kids."[5] Wiping out another one hundred thousand people . . . all those kids. . . .​

The atomic bombings were condemned as barbaric and unnecessary by high American military officers, including Eisenhower and MacArthur.[10] The view of Admiral William D. Leahy, Truman's own chief of staff, was typical:​

"The use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make wars in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children."[11] (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2010/11/...against-japan/)​

Yet, 20,000 japanese soldiers died in the atomic blast?. Japan's 5th division and 2nd army headquarters where destroyed, unuseable. It was also a port and a communications center. More so seeings how tokoyo was largely destroyed. And yes, we bombed the center, not the outskirts, knowing that was the best way to wipe the entire city off the map.

As far as what you posted about what the "leaders" said, I say rubbish. Not one leader stated, to not drop the bomb, before it was dropped. Not one. If you think so, go ahead a post whatever you find. But remember, none of these people knew of the bomb. So you best find proof of stimson telling them and post that as well.

Ike's talk to America after leaving office proves he knew and was against it


Beware of the military industrial complex

He was military and him saying that shows he sees insane greed is involved That proves he was against it and even said it. Because here he is saying the military complex has insane greed

Yes, like I already pointed out, Ike didn't say squat until after he was out of office, so his 'speech' has little relevance and did no good. He waited until it was safe for him to do do so. He didn't do much about it as Pres, and went on to get involved in Viet Nam, Africa, the ME, and South America, with mixed results. Spending was a domestic issue, and has nothing to do with strategy re Japan 15 years after the war was over.

Again Ike was military trained to obey orders even when disagreeing

If he had broadcast his disagreeing that would harm all military forever

He finally broadcast his disagreement by that speach and he was the commander in chief.

That speach was proof Ike was against it and just did not broadcast it because he was military

 

[elektra]

LOL. FDR and Truman were criminals.

Only from the perspective of enemies of the USA

 

[GreenAndBlue]

If Ike had broadcast his disagreeing with his superior he would have harmed the whole priniciple of obeying higher rank

And doing so would make all
Military efforts weaker

Very silly and with low logic not to understand Ike

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Einstein said the biggest mistake he ever made was writing that letter to Roosevelt. He said he wished someone had chopped off his fingers so he couldn't write that letter that got the Manhattan project started and the bomb

The way America delayed to enter the world had the other nations thinking America was either on the side of hitler or was trying to weaken the world so that they would have more influence

Russia lost over 20 million and China lost over 20 million and America half a million

Many nations became really scared of America and of war and worked things to get ready for the next one

China had abortions in such a way to increase their male and female ratio. So that they could lose 200 million men if needed in the next war


Today America's deep state has been caught cheating their own voters and today the world is very afraid

Trump is trying to stop the crooked deep state in order to avoid world war 111

Trump wants the other nations to progress too but not cheat America's progress

Trump may be the worlds last chance to avoid world war 111

FDR and Truman were better geo-political strategists than Einstein, who had no clue what he was talking about, just parroting the usual commie 'peace at any price' nonsense popular with left wingers. Fact.

Einstein was a genius in cause and effect

Einstein wanted the bomb at first because he knew Germany may get it first So he got the bomb started

But then when Germany was beat and Japan controlled could not come out of their island Einstein was horrified

Einstein the best at cause and effect. He then knew there will now be a nuke race and in time nukes will be used since America did that

Russia was next in inventing the nuke bomb America dropping the bomb when not needed made them very scared of us same with China

And now we have a nuke race


Might does make right until bad decisions comes to give the might makes right to others

Einstein understood clearly that cause and effect

 

[GreenAndBlue]

LOL. FDR and Truman were criminals.

Only from the perspective of enemies of the USA

Bad decisions are the enemy of America

Nukking kids and women is nearly as bad as abortion destroying nations

 

[elektra]

LOL. FDR and Truman were criminals.

Only from the perspective of enemies of the USA

Bad decisions are the enemy of America

Nukking kids and women is nearly as bad as abortion destroying nations

Losing wars is good? Losing American's lives is good? It is sad that the Japs lost a war they started. It is also sad that nobody was more brutal than the japanese in that war that they started.