Eightball
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The time of prophets ended with John the Baptist.
The advent of the "Christ", was the fullfillment of O.T. scripture.........
The Passover Lamb, first instituted by Israel upon their leaving Egypt, was leading/pointing towards the coming/future Messiah, or the actual "Lamb of God", Jesus Christ.
The Passover Lamb had to be unblemished, it was sacrificed and it's blood sprinkled on every door post of the Israelites, or their first borns would be taken in death when the Angel of the Lord passed over their house.
Jesus, virgin born, was the fullfillment of the unblemished lamb, or sinless man, as He was not of Joseph or Mary's actual seed, but the New Adam(Romans/Author Paul). The Holy Spirit of God placed the miracle of the sinless human babe in the virgin Mary's womb.
God's judgement on mankind had to be assuaged, once and for all, and only a perfect, sinless human being could fullfill this for the human race. Even the temple for the Ark that was built in the desert by the Israelites is a perfect metaphorical representation of the Christ, and God the Father and the Holy Spirit/Ghost. The Holy of Holies was only accessible once a year by a Levitical priest. That priest had to go through days of both physical, and spiritual cleansing, to metaphorically represent, the future "elect" or believers that have access to God through Jesus Christ's blood, and life as an atonement and propitiation for their sinful lives.
The Mercy seat or top of the Ark was sprinkled with an unblemished, sacrificed lamb's blood. This represented what Christ would do in the future. Within the Ark was the shattered tablets of God's laws, that represented man's failure and sinfulness before an Holy, Just, and Righteous God.
The lambs blood sprinkled on the Mercy Seat covered the top of the Ark, and assuaged or met God's demand for a suitable sacrifice to stand in mankind's place.
Once a year, the collective sins of Isreal were symbolically forgiven by this ritual. At that time, God did indeed dwell within the Tent of Meeting or the Temple, but withdrew Himself from their midst after the Israelites rebelled and built a Golden Calf in Moses' absence, to worship. God said, "No idols, just worship and believe in Me!". God continued to lead the Israelites to the Promised Land of Canaan, but called them an obstinate, or "stiff necked" people; not unlike us or the verdict or depiction of mankind nowadays.
When Jesus breathed His last on the cross of Golgotha, and voluntarily gave up His life, the veil that protected the Holy of Holies from man's eyes, was torn from top to bottom that day. Many people just remember the depiction of earthquakes, thunder, etc..., but the most important symbolic happening was the "veil" torn in two.
Now the Ark, or the most Holy of Holies that was only accessible once a year for one approved, Levitical priest was accessible to all mankind, via Jesus' death, and ressurrected life. Jesus lifted the veil between humanity and God Almighty!
The only measure that was required of mankind was to surrender in faith, their lives into the hands/life of Christ as their intermediator, intercessor, Passover Lamb, as the only means to approach their Creator/God. Christ was the only means for man to release, or erase, his sinful nature, and sins too.
No angel, no old or new prophet, no priest, not any of the old testament saints, just Christ Jesus, the perfect unblemished, sinless sacrifice would suffice.
Paul says that every person who believes on Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior is a "New Creature, New Creation in Christ".
This is an internal, soulical/spiritual birth, not a physical change. God does it. Not us.
Nicodemus the Pharisee came to Jesus, in secret and asked Jesus How he/Nicodemus could inherit eternal life. Jesus said, "Nicodemus, you must be, "Born Again" or some translations say, "Born From Above".". Nicodemus couldn't comprehend this, and thought that Jesus was implying that he had to be physically born from the womb of a woman again and start over somehow, but Jesus explained even more succinctly to the Samaritan woman at the well that there was a "water" that one can drink that will totally quench one's thirst, "once and for all". Jesus said that the water that He could give to her, the Samaritan woman, would provide eternal life, and one would never thirst again. Excitedly, the woman ran off to her village and brought others back, as she started to understand what Christ was saying.
Folks,,,,,,there is no longer a need for new or Latter Day Prophets, no, new Revelations to add to the bible, as all the truth that's needed has been clearly revealed in Jesus' 33 years of earthly life. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John wrote what is called the 4 Gospels, that have covered those 33 years of the Lord's life here on earth, from 4 distinct perspectives. Matthew the tax collector spoke of the strong connection of Judaism, the O.T. and the coming Christ and the fullfillment of scripture. Mark did similarly to Matthew, yet added new and different perspective. John, who was claimed to have the most intimate friendship with Jesus, adds his observations/perspective, and Luke, the physician, gives details that are incredible finite, and give added proof of their eye-witness relationships with Jesus.
Morminism is built upon not the Character of God, but the character of Joseph Smith Jr., Brigham Young, and many other elders of that religion. .........And were they characters!
Joseph Smith's life is skewed with sinful behaviour, lies, false martyrdom, and totally unethical, and rascist practices. This man started as a con man in New York, and carried out his elaborate charade upon people, hungry for truth. One day, Joseph Smith Jr. will face some incredible scrutiny and judgement before the God! Because of him, literally millions of human souls have lived and died not knowing the truth Christ, and God of the bible.
Nowadays, the Mormon church pushes family bonds, the American flag, Apple Pie, and "Leave to Beaver" home life as their godly answer to Christianity.
The relationship with God through Jesus Christ is not a theatrical summation of various jumps through difficult hoops of life, in order to please this Mormon father god.
Having the most intimate relationship with God through Christ doesn't involve mandatory missions domestically or in other parts of the world, riding bicycles, wearing pressed white shirts, dark ties, and pressed slacks.
All of these people that come to your door, who want you to become Latter Day Saints, are in need of salvation, as the Wall Street Executive, UAW worker, Sheet Metal Man, Butcher, Teacher, Retired person, in your city.
They just offer you a manmade concoction of Joseph Smith's sinful yet brilliant con-like imaginations since 1830
Brand new Mormons are never exposed to the deep teachings of the LDS church..........or what is within Temple Rites, for various priesthoods, or what is contained within their Journal of Discourses. If the novice Mormon were to read these documents, they would be so shocked with rancid displeasure, and revulsion at what they were tied or connected to as a religion that they probably would never want to enter another Mormon church, or Stake.
One of the other signs of a cult, is the "holding back" of the real "truth" or the core of the belief system to the novice. Members must be slowly "spoon fed" these doctrines gradually, so as to not upset and send them fleeing from the flock. Just read some studies on how cults "hook" their members. You'll see what I'm saying.
True biblical Christianity holds back nothing to new believers and old timers alike. Christ ripped the blocking veil of intimacy/relationship between our Creator, and ourselves. Christ gave us total access to God the Father through His sacrificed life. God is and was pleased with the atonement, and with open arms welcomes us to dine, and commune with Him eternally. Jesus is the "gateway", not Mormonism, nor charitable works, nor clean living, etc.... It is by "faith" that we enter the portal of God's new life for us. He just asks us to accept His Son as the "completion" of our quest. Just becareful to be asking for the Jesus of the bible and not some conconction dreamed up by Joseph Smith Jr. back in 1830.
Don't be beguiled by the sweet smiles and clean cut appearance of these young Mormons who come to your door. They bring to you a false Gospel; a false Jesus, a false hope, and a totally unbiblical counterfeit of true Christianity. Their Jesus is the spirit brother of Lucifer. That is from their documents. Missionaries will deny this, either out of ignorance of their own doctrines, or because they don't want to admit to a potential novice member.
Don't hate these missionaries! Pity them, and pray for them that the scales on their eyes would be removed and they would realize how they have lived a Stepford-type life, in order to please their Mormon god. Pray for their salvation! Read your bible and be ready to tell them the real Truth, when then come to your door. The Truth sets men and women free!
They need salvation badly. People in Christian-type cults are often the most difficult to help, as they live under so much pressure and fear to think for themselves and even investigate their own system of belief. It is taboo in all cults. You listen to the elder of your group. You interpret scripture according to your elders direction. You accept, without question. This is not Christianity!
In biblical Christianity, mere babes in the faith often bring wonderful nuggets of wisdom to those that have been long time Christians.
Even the Crusaders of old, were poor examples of true biblical Christianity. God did not want them slaughtering Jews, and Muslims in the Holy lands to extend a so-called Christian empire. They should have been bringing the gospel of reconciliation through Christ. Not with the physical sword, but with the sword of the Word or God's scripture!
God's way, is "abiding" in His Truth. It's giving up inside, our own ways, dreams, and ambitions, and letting God direct us into the treasures of life. It's scarey, as we all have been trained from birth to find that dream or star that is our's. God doesn't take away ambition, nor material blessings, but He does show us how we have prioritized wants of life in a very upside down way, that will only lead to ultimate dissappointment, and disillusionment. Things will fade away one day. Things will rust, and moths will eat holes, but a relationship with God is for eternity.
Make sure you choose wisely.
The advent of the "Christ", was the fullfillment of O.T. scripture.........
The Passover Lamb, first instituted by Israel upon their leaving Egypt, was leading/pointing towards the coming/future Messiah, or the actual "Lamb of God", Jesus Christ.
The Passover Lamb had to be unblemished, it was sacrificed and it's blood sprinkled on every door post of the Israelites, or their first borns would be taken in death when the Angel of the Lord passed over their house.
Jesus, virgin born, was the fullfillment of the unblemished lamb, or sinless man, as He was not of Joseph or Mary's actual seed, but the New Adam(Romans/Author Paul). The Holy Spirit of God placed the miracle of the sinless human babe in the virgin Mary's womb.
God's judgement on mankind had to be assuaged, once and for all, and only a perfect, sinless human being could fullfill this for the human race. Even the temple for the Ark that was built in the desert by the Israelites is a perfect metaphorical representation of the Christ, and God the Father and the Holy Spirit/Ghost. The Holy of Holies was only accessible once a year by a Levitical priest. That priest had to go through days of both physical, and spiritual cleansing, to metaphorically represent, the future "elect" or believers that have access to God through Jesus Christ's blood, and life as an atonement and propitiation for their sinful lives.
The Mercy seat or top of the Ark was sprinkled with an unblemished, sacrificed lamb's blood. This represented what Christ would do in the future. Within the Ark was the shattered tablets of God's laws, that represented man's failure and sinfulness before an Holy, Just, and Righteous God.
The lambs blood sprinkled on the Mercy Seat covered the top of the Ark, and assuaged or met God's demand for a suitable sacrifice to stand in mankind's place.
Once a year, the collective sins of Isreal were symbolically forgiven by this ritual. At that time, God did indeed dwell within the Tent of Meeting or the Temple, but withdrew Himself from their midst after the Israelites rebelled and built a Golden Calf in Moses' absence, to worship. God said, "No idols, just worship and believe in Me!". God continued to lead the Israelites to the Promised Land of Canaan, but called them an obstinate, or "stiff necked" people; not unlike us or the verdict or depiction of mankind nowadays.
When Jesus breathed His last on the cross of Golgotha, and voluntarily gave up His life, the veil that protected the Holy of Holies from man's eyes, was torn from top to bottom that day. Many people just remember the depiction of earthquakes, thunder, etc..., but the most important symbolic happening was the "veil" torn in two.
Now the Ark, or the most Holy of Holies that was only accessible once a year for one approved, Levitical priest was accessible to all mankind, via Jesus' death, and ressurrected life. Jesus lifted the veil between humanity and God Almighty!
The only measure that was required of mankind was to surrender in faith, their lives into the hands/life of Christ as their intermediator, intercessor, Passover Lamb, as the only means to approach their Creator/God. Christ was the only means for man to release, or erase, his sinful nature, and sins too.
No angel, no old or new prophet, no priest, not any of the old testament saints, just Christ Jesus, the perfect unblemished, sinless sacrifice would suffice.
Paul says that every person who believes on Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior is a "New Creature, New Creation in Christ".
This is an internal, soulical/spiritual birth, not a physical change. God does it. Not us.
Nicodemus the Pharisee came to Jesus, in secret and asked Jesus How he/Nicodemus could inherit eternal life. Jesus said, "Nicodemus, you must be, "Born Again" or some translations say, "Born From Above".". Nicodemus couldn't comprehend this, and thought that Jesus was implying that he had to be physically born from the womb of a woman again and start over somehow, but Jesus explained even more succinctly to the Samaritan woman at the well that there was a "water" that one can drink that will totally quench one's thirst, "once and for all". Jesus said that the water that He could give to her, the Samaritan woman, would provide eternal life, and one would never thirst again. Excitedly, the woman ran off to her village and brought others back, as she started to understand what Christ was saying.
Folks,,,,,,there is no longer a need for new or Latter Day Prophets, no, new Revelations to add to the bible, as all the truth that's needed has been clearly revealed in Jesus' 33 years of earthly life. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John wrote what is called the 4 Gospels, that have covered those 33 years of the Lord's life here on earth, from 4 distinct perspectives. Matthew the tax collector spoke of the strong connection of Judaism, the O.T. and the coming Christ and the fullfillment of scripture. Mark did similarly to Matthew, yet added new and different perspective. John, who was claimed to have the most intimate friendship with Jesus, adds his observations/perspective, and Luke, the physician, gives details that are incredible finite, and give added proof of their eye-witness relationships with Jesus.
Morminism is built upon not the Character of God, but the character of Joseph Smith Jr., Brigham Young, and many other elders of that religion. .........And were they characters!
Joseph Smith's life is skewed with sinful behaviour, lies, false martyrdom, and totally unethical, and rascist practices. This man started as a con man in New York, and carried out his elaborate charade upon people, hungry for truth. One day, Joseph Smith Jr. will face some incredible scrutiny and judgement before the God! Because of him, literally millions of human souls have lived and died not knowing the truth Christ, and God of the bible.
Nowadays, the Mormon church pushes family bonds, the American flag, Apple Pie, and "Leave to Beaver" home life as their godly answer to Christianity.
The relationship with God through Jesus Christ is not a theatrical summation of various jumps through difficult hoops of life, in order to please this Mormon father god.
Having the most intimate relationship with God through Christ doesn't involve mandatory missions domestically or in other parts of the world, riding bicycles, wearing pressed white shirts, dark ties, and pressed slacks.
All of these people that come to your door, who want you to become Latter Day Saints, are in need of salvation, as the Wall Street Executive, UAW worker, Sheet Metal Man, Butcher, Teacher, Retired person, in your city.
They just offer you a manmade concoction of Joseph Smith's sinful yet brilliant con-like imaginations since 1830
Brand new Mormons are never exposed to the deep teachings of the LDS church..........or what is within Temple Rites, for various priesthoods, or what is contained within their Journal of Discourses. If the novice Mormon were to read these documents, they would be so shocked with rancid displeasure, and revulsion at what they were tied or connected to as a religion that they probably would never want to enter another Mormon church, or Stake.
One of the other signs of a cult, is the "holding back" of the real "truth" or the core of the belief system to the novice. Members must be slowly "spoon fed" these doctrines gradually, so as to not upset and send them fleeing from the flock. Just read some studies on how cults "hook" their members. You'll see what I'm saying.
True biblical Christianity holds back nothing to new believers and old timers alike. Christ ripped the blocking veil of intimacy/relationship between our Creator, and ourselves. Christ gave us total access to God the Father through His sacrificed life. God is and was pleased with the atonement, and with open arms welcomes us to dine, and commune with Him eternally. Jesus is the "gateway", not Mormonism, nor charitable works, nor clean living, etc.... It is by "faith" that we enter the portal of God's new life for us. He just asks us to accept His Son as the "completion" of our quest. Just becareful to be asking for the Jesus of the bible and not some conconction dreamed up by Joseph Smith Jr. back in 1830.
Don't be beguiled by the sweet smiles and clean cut appearance of these young Mormons who come to your door. They bring to you a false Gospel; a false Jesus, a false hope, and a totally unbiblical counterfeit of true Christianity. Their Jesus is the spirit brother of Lucifer. That is from their documents. Missionaries will deny this, either out of ignorance of their own doctrines, or because they don't want to admit to a potential novice member.
Don't hate these missionaries! Pity them, and pray for them that the scales on their eyes would be removed and they would realize how they have lived a Stepford-type life, in order to please their Mormon god. Pray for their salvation! Read your bible and be ready to tell them the real Truth, when then come to your door. The Truth sets men and women free!
They need salvation badly. People in Christian-type cults are often the most difficult to help, as they live under so much pressure and fear to think for themselves and even investigate their own system of belief. It is taboo in all cults. You listen to the elder of your group. You interpret scripture according to your elders direction. You accept, without question. This is not Christianity!
In biblical Christianity, mere babes in the faith often bring wonderful nuggets of wisdom to those that have been long time Christians.
Even the Crusaders of old, were poor examples of true biblical Christianity. God did not want them slaughtering Jews, and Muslims in the Holy lands to extend a so-called Christian empire. They should have been bringing the gospel of reconciliation through Christ. Not with the physical sword, but with the sword of the Word or God's scripture!
God's way, is "abiding" in His Truth. It's giving up inside, our own ways, dreams, and ambitions, and letting God direct us into the treasures of life. It's scarey, as we all have been trained from birth to find that dream or star that is our's. God doesn't take away ambition, nor material blessings, but He does show us how we have prioritized wants of life in a very upside down way, that will only lead to ultimate dissappointment, and disillusionment. Things will fade away one day. Things will rust, and moths will eat holes, but a relationship with God is for eternity.
Make sure you choose wisely.
and now we have been laughing about it for almost a week. You must have been truly enlightened because it enlightened my day. I am laughing thinking about it right now. Was that the Buddhist or the Sailor in you? Bravo
