When I hear Mormon, I think of the slaughter of innocent children so they might go to heaven.
But that's probably just because of the historical facts regarding the religion.
And who was slaughtering innocent children to get to heaven?
is there something about mormonism that just requires people to make stuff up about us?
Don't know the history of your own church? When they slaughtered settlers and travelers passing through, the justification for the slaughter of the children was that the children could go to heaven if they were slain, whereas letting them live would mean they'd become stained with sin and go to hell.
Well, you obviously donÂ’t know the whole history. Maybe you donÂ’t want to know it. Either way, IÂ’ll provide you the context, which you always seem to have so many problems including when discussing history. From my discussions with you before, you continually ignored historical context so that you could maintain your position. I think that shows your intent here is not for honest discussion, (you do seem to have something in common with Andrew Brietbart who also takes things out of context), however, IÂ’m willing to give you another chance.
I actually visited the Mountain Meadows massacre site just a few weeks ago and it is something I will discuss honestly and openly with anyone. While no church has been built there (as you sarcastically implied), there was a monument constructed and dedicated by the LDS church some years ago in memory of those who were killed in this tragic event.
All the evidence available shows that the massacre was perpetrated by an isolated group of Mormons, with the main leader by the name of John D. Lee.
It was LeeÂ’s paranoia fostered by previous church persecution, and combined with the increased tensions between the LDS and US troops in Utah which helped create the situation. LeeÂ’s paranoia caused him to go so far as to convince a group of Paiutes to attack the emigrants who had supposedly threatened LDS people in southern Utah. Whether or not the threats were real, did not seem to matter to Lee; he seemed to take them as valid.
Lee, before attacking, went to local church leaders to try and get support from the local church leaders. A church council was called together. The councilÂ’s decision was that Lee and others were not to attack the emigrants. He didnÂ’t listen and he let his paranoia control him. The president of the church even sent a letter from Salt Lake City saying to leave the emigrants alone, although the letter came too late (it is 250 miles from Salt Lake City).
Lee was in no way justified by his actions and was put on trial and executed for his crimes. Others were also put on trial, and convicted, although some ran from the law the rest of their lives. Regardless of what you are trying to prove here, LeeÂ’s actions and the othersÂ’ involved in this tragedy go against official church teachings.
Here is what Sharon Chambers, the great-granddaughter of one of the survivors said:
The people who did this had lost their way. I donÂ’t know what was in their minds or in their hearts. I feel sorrow that this happened to my ancestors. I also feel sorrow that people have blamed the acts of some on an entire group, or on an entire religion.
Are you blaming the acts of some on an entire group? Are you really trying to find out the truth about Mormons? Your answers to these questions will show your real intentions here. That is, if you actually answer the questions.
