The Truth About John McCain

[namvet]

His stupid showing off caused this mess and it was covered up because of his father, an admiral.

“During the course of his flying career with the U.S. Navy, John McCain was involved in at least five major mishaps or crashes involving his plane. The most dramatic incidents occurred in 1967. He barely escaped with his life after a missile exploded aboard an aircraft carrier, the USS Forrestal, in July of that year, killing 134 of his fellow crew members. In October, McCain was shot down over Vietnam by a surface-to-air missile.”

This article is an indictment of this man and proves that President Trump was correct in is assessment that McCain “was no hero.”

Full story with lots and lots of links @ McCain’s Death Bed Secret Just Came Out About Who He Killed After Skeleton Suddenly Resurfaces

Interesting.....having been in the Navy for 21 years and using the Forrestal fire in training events....we were all told that it started when stray voltage caused a missile to fire across the flight deck and hit another plane......I wonder why the NAVY doesn't tell YOUR version. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM......

the Navy made a training vid on this called learn or burn

 

[Syriusly]

His stupid showing off caused this mess and it was covered up because of his father, an admiral.

“During the course of his flying career with the U.S. Navy, John McCain was involved in at least five major mishaps or crashes involving his plane. The most dramatic incidents occurred in 1967. He barely escaped with his life after a missile exploded aboard an aircraft carrier, the USS Forrestal, in July of that year, killing 134 of his fellow crew members. In October, McCain was shot down over Vietnam by a surface-to-air missile.”

This article is an indictment of this man and proves that President Trump was correct in is assessment that McCain “was no hero.”

Full story with lots and lots of links @ McCain’s Death Bed Secret Just Came Out About Who He Killed After Skeleton Suddenly Resurfaces

Why is it that Contards take so much delight in attacking combat veterans?

Decorated combat veterans?

Lets review what President Snowflake- you know the guy who dodged Vietnam- said about John McCain:

“He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

Note- Trump didn't say that John McCain was not a hero because he crashed planes on his carrier- but because he got captured.

So do you agree with Donald Trump that American veterans who were captured, imprisoned and tortured are not heroes?

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Tell us how all of those survivors of the Bataan death march- aren't heroes.

Tell us again how John McCain is not a hero.

As usual, you Libtards are mixing apples and oranges. Every one of those guys in the Hanoi Hilton were heroes for holding out against attempts to make them turn against their country - except for Traitor McCain. He deserved to be courts-martialed and only got out of it due to his father and grandfather.

yeah- every one of them- except John McCain.

You Consertive assholes love to attack combat veterans- if you disagree with them politically.

John McCain is a decorated combat veteran- who served our country honorably.

And you shit on him, like you do any combat veteran you disagree with politically.

 

[Syriusly]

His stupid showing off caused this mess and it was covered up because of his father, an admiral.

“During the course of his flying career with the U.S. Navy, John McCain was involved in at least five major mishaps or crashes involving his plane. The most dramatic incidents occurred in 1967. He barely escaped with his life after a missile exploded aboard an aircraft carrier, the USS Forrestal, in July of that year, killing 134 of his fellow crew members. In October, McCain was shot down over Vietnam by a surface-to-air missile.”

This article is an indictment of this man and proves that President Trump was correct in is assessment that McCain “was no hero.”

Full story with lots and lots of links @ McCain’s Death Bed Secret Just Came Out About Who He Killed After Skeleton Suddenly Resurfaces

Why is it that Contards take so much delight in attacking combat veterans?

Decorated combat veterans?

Lets review what President Snowflake- you know the guy who dodged Vietnam- said about John McCain:

“He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

Note- Trump didn't say that John McCain was not a hero because he crashed planes on his carrier- but because he got captured.

So do you agree with Donald Trump that American veterans who were captured, imprisoned and tortured are not heroes?

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Tell us how all of those survivors of the Bataan death march- aren't heroes.

Tell us again how John McCain is not a hero.

As usual, you Libtards are mixing apples and oranges. Every one of those guys in the Hanoi Hilton were heroes for holding out against attempts to make them turn against their country - except for Traitor McCain. He deserved to be courts-martialed and only got out of it due to his father and grandfather.

By the way- so very typical of your bait and switch. You are the one who has mixed apples and oranges.

You attacked John McCain for supposedly causing the accident on the Forrestal- then you claimed that Trump was correct.

"proves that President Trump was correct in is assessment that McCain “was no hero.”"

Your President Snowflake said McCain was not a hero because
Lets review what President Snowflake- you know the guy who dodged Vietnam- said about John McCain:

“He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

Note- Trump didn't say that John McCain was not a hero because he crashed planes on his carrier- but because he got captured.

So do you agree with Donald Trump that American veterans who were captured, imprisoned and tortured are not heroes

You know- like the men of the Bataan death march?

 

[Syriusly]

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None of this changes the fact that McCain stood up to that inhuman pig of a president.

McCain proved he was a lefty liberal RINO when he voted against our beloved Pres. Trump and the entire Republican party. ....

And of course the contard assholes always attack our combat veterans if they disagree with them politically.

 

[Syriusly]

Tell us how all of those survivors of the Bataan death march- aren't heroes.

Tell us again how John McCain is not a hero.

Your skull is full of sh1t and your whole life is a lie. A hero is someone who chooses to face hardship for a greater good. .

Poor little partisan snowflake.

Chooses to face hardship for a greater good.

Lets review:
John McCain volunteered for the military, and volunteered for combat duty. Donald Trump dodged the draft.
John McCain was injured in combat, captured and tortured in prison. Donald Trump claimed his Vietnam was avoiding STDs.
John McCain was offered release from the Hanoi Hilton because of who his father was- and refused the release- for the benefit of the 'greater good'

"I just didn't think it was the honorable thing to do."...McCain calmly told The Cat that the prisoners must be released in the order they were captured, starting with Alvarez. [The Arizona Republic]

Yeah- fuck you.

I honor our combat veterans- you shit all over them.

 

[Sunni Man]

McCain as a veteran and a former POW, he gets my upmost respect. ...

As a politician, he gets nothing but my disdain for his RINO behavior. .....

 

[rightwinger]

Code of Conduct
Article V - When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause.

Torture sucks doesn't it?

 

[AVISSSER]

Code of Conduct
Article V - When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause.

Torture sucks doesn't it?

Definition of hero
plural
heroes

1. 1a : a mythological or legendary figure often of divine descent endowed with great strength or ability b : an illustrious warrior c : a person admired for achievements and noble qualities d : one who shows great courage

Code of Conduct
Article V - When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause.

 

[longknife]

 

[rightwinger]

Torture sucks

 

[Divine Wind]

His stupid showing off caused this mess and it was covered up because of his father, an admiral.

“During the course of his flying career with the U.S. Navy, John McCain was involved in at least five major mishaps or crashes involving his plane. The most dramatic incidents occurred in 1967. He barely escaped with his life after a missile exploded aboard an aircraft carrier, the USS Forrestal, in July of that year, killing 134 of his fellow crew members. In October, McCain was shot down over Vietnam by a surface-to-air missile.”

This article is an indictment of this man and proves that President Trump was correct in is assessment that McCain “was no hero.”

Full story with lots and lots of links @ McCain’s Death Bed Secret Just Came Out About Who He Killed After Skeleton Suddenly Resurfaces

John McCain didn't cause the Forrestal fire. He was nearly killed by an errant missile. Any article which starts out "Senator John McCain is a traitor and an enemy of the American people" clearly isn't "fair & balanced" nor, IMHO, sane and centered. While some claim McCain is a hero, and I support that idea, he's not alone. Hundreds of airmen were shot down and held as POWs. Hundreds were involved in saving the USS Forrestal. Swiftboating McCain by RWNJs is politically motivated but has an end result of demeaning the Navy, the military in general and every member of the service killed or wounded in the line of duty. In this case, the 134 sailors killed and 161 injured during the tragedy.

Now for some facts:
The U.S. Navy
This is the story of the brave men of USS Forrestal.

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It is not a story about just a few individuals. Or ten. Or twenty. Or fifty. It is the story of hundreds of officers and enlisted men who were molded by disaster into a single cohesive force determined to accomplish one mission: Save their ship and their shipmates.

It is the story of the acts of heroism they performed-acts so commonplace, accomplished with such startling regularity, that it will be impossible to chronicle all of them. It will be impossible for a very simple reason:All of them will never be known.

Lt. Cmdr. Robert "Bo" Browning one of the pilots due for launch with many others, he was seated in the cockpit of his fueled and armed Skyhawk; the plane was spotted way aft, to port. Lt. Cmdr. John S. McCain III said later he heard a "whooshy" sound then a "low-order explosion" in front of him. Suddenly, two A-4s ahead of his plane were engulfed in flaming jet fuel � JP-5 � spewed from them. A bomb dropped to the deck and rolled about six feet and came to rest in a pool of burning fuel.

The awful conflagration, which was to leave 132 Forrestal crewmen dead, 62 more injured and two missing and presumed dead, had begun.

As the searing flames, fed by the spreading JP-5, spread aft and began to eat at the aircraft spotted around the deck, Lt. Cmdr. Browning escaped from his plane. He ducked under the tails of two Skyhawks spotted alongside his and ran up the flight deck toward the island area. Twice, explosions knocked him off balance. But he made it.

The fire soon enveloped all the aircraft in its wake. It spread to the fantail, to decks below. Bombs and ammunition were touched off in the midst of early fire-fighting efforts. Black, acrid smoke boiled into the sky. Other ships on Yankee Station sped to the aid of the stricken carrier.

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As the fuel-fed fire licked at planes, ammunition and bombs, the heroes of Forrestal rushed to avert a total disaster; some died in the process. A chief petty officer, armed only with a small fire extinguisher, ran toward the bomb that had dropped to the flight deck. He was killed when it exploded as were members of fire-fighting teams trying to wrestle fire hoses into position. Shrapnel from the explosion was thrown a reported 400 feet.

"I saw a dozen people running . . into the fire, just before the bomb cooked off," Lt. Cmdr. Browning was quoted as saying later. He called very one of them "a hero of the first magnitude."

That was only the beginning.

"There was a horrendous explosion that shook 'Angel Two Zero.' It seemed as if the whole stern of the Forrestal had erupted. Suddenly there were rafts, fuel tanks, oxygen tanks, trop tanks and debris of every description floating in the water below."

The description is from Lt. David Clement, pilot of a rescue helicopter from the carrier USS Oriskany (CV 34), who had been asked to fly plane guard for Forrestal after completing a flight to that carrier. Soon, he and his crew � Ens. Leonard M. Eiland, Jr., Aviation Machinist's Mate (Jets) 3rd Class James D. James, Jr., and Airman Albert E. Barrows � would be on a far different mission. They would be rescuing Forrestal crewmen who jumped, fell or were knocked from the carrier � no less than five times within an hour. Later, they would be shuttling medical supplies to the stricken ship. The continuing explosions on Forrestal's flight deck would rock their helo, leaving the ship's aft end, in Lt. Clement's words, "a mass of twisted steel, with holes in the flight deck, a vacant space where there had been many aircraft and a towering column of black and gray smoke and flames."

At 11:47 A.M., Forrestal reported the flight deck fire was under control.

At 12:15, the ship sent word that the flight deck fire was out.

At 12:45, stubborn fires remained on the 01 and 02 levels and in hangar bay three. All available COD (Carrier Onboard Delivery) aircraft were being sent to the carriers Oriskany and USS Bon Homme Richard (CV 31) to be swiftly rigged with litters medical evacuation.

There will be stories told of the brave men of Forrestal for years to come. These are only a few examples:

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� Ltjg. Robert Cates, the carrier's explosive ordnance demolition officer, calmly recounted later how he had "noticed that there was a 500-pound bomb and a 750-pound bomb in the middle of the flight deck . . . that were still smoking. They hadn't detonated or anything; they were just setting there smoking. So I went up and defused them and had them jettisoned."

� Ltjg. Cates also told how one of his men, whom he named only as Black, volunteered to be lowered by line through a hole in the flight deck to defuse a live bomb that had dropped to the 03 level � even though the compartment was still on fire and full of smoke. Black did the job; later, Ltjg. Cates had himself lowered into the compartment to attach a line to the bomb so it could be jettisoned.

� This too from Cates: "We [Black and himself] started picking up everything we could find that had explosives in it and started throwing them over the side. Some squadron pilots came up to me as we went aft � I don't know who they were � [and] helped me take a Sidewinder missile off a burning F-4. We just continued working our way aft and taking what ordnance we found off aircraft and throwing it over the side."

� Two Forrestal flight deck crewmen, reports said, were knocked overboard by one of the explosions, fell 70 feet into the water, were picked up by a rescue helicopter and deposited back on the flight deck � and resumed fire fighting at once.

� One man in a crash crew forklift vehicle, with only one hose playing water on him, tried to get rid of a burning plane by ramming it repeatedly. The plane was jettisoned.

� Lt. Cmdr. Larry Forderhase, ship's catapult officer, was preparing to launch aircraft when the fire broke out. He immediately started clearing the deck of bombs and rockets before helping to move planes forward.

� Aviation Electrician's Mate 3rd Class Bruce Mulligan, a 22-year-old VA-106 crewman, was all the way aft on the flight deck when he heard explosions. He turned, saw a "fireball" coming at him and hit the deck. Somehow, he managed to get forward and was headed for a fire hose when he was hit by shrapnel. He helped a friend with a broken leg get to sick bay, then returned to the flight deck.

"Back aft of the island, we started throwing missiles and rockets over the side," he recounted later. "After that was done, I looked around for some of my buddies on the line crew and I could find only one. So we decided to help them fight the fire and got the fire hoses back aft and went to fight the plane fires. My buddy and I stayed back aft for I don't know how long. We got separated and some officer said later to leave.

"I went back to the island and got my hands taken care of and stayed back there [to rest for a while]. I was kind of groggy. I found another of my buddies and we went back aft again to help with the fire. By this time, they were working on the holes in the flight deck.

"Once again, one of our officers in the squadron found me and took me down to the forecastle to rest. I stayed down there for about ten minutes, then went back aft again. ... I stayed back there until I just about passed out and my buddy dragged me out of there. . ."

� Seaman Milton Parker was just watching flight operations from the 09 level when the fire struck. Unable to get to his General Quarters station because it was cut off, he manned a hose on the flight deck for almost nine hours. He told how the heat of the deck burned both soles off his shoes, but "my feet are okay because I put on some flight deck shoes and went back in" to continue fire fighting.

� The CVW-17 operations officer, Lt. Cmdr. Herb Hope, was to fly a VA-46 A-4 with a launch time of 11a.m. 'When the flight deck erupted in flames, he managed to escape from his plane and, between explosions, literally rolled off the flight deck into a safety net. He made his way down to the hangar deck to coordinate the actions of a damage control party in one of the hangar bays. "The port quarter of the flight deck, where I was," he said, "is no longer there."

Fed by clothing, bedding and other flammables, the fires in the levels between the flight and hangar decks burned with an awesome fury. Men trying to locate shipmates trapped in compartments were driven out by flames and smoke. The after section of the hangar deck was so thick with smoke that it was impossible to see.

These are excerpts from an account given by Ens. Robert R. Schmidt, a 24-year-old engineering officer:

"... My work really wasn't the exciting kind of thing; just keeping the fire from spreading into any other areas. My people were doing all kinds of dirty work, moving into areas where the water was so hot it was almost boiling. OBA (Oxygen Breathing Apparatus) windows started fogging up and the people could hardly see anything. Yet, these kids went into the deeper areas of the ship, endangering their own lives. . . ."

At 1:48 p.m., Forrestal reported that the fires in the 01, 02 and 03 levels still burned, but that all the ship's machinery and steering equipment were operational.

At 2:12 p.m., the after radio compartment was evacuated because of dense smoke and water. "All fires out on 01 level, port side," the ship reported.


At 2:47 p.m. the compartment fires continued but progress was being made. Forrestal was steaming toward a rendezvous with the hospital ship USS Repose (AH 16).

At 3 p.m., the commander of Task Force 77 announced he was sending Forrestal to Subic Bay, Philippines, after the carrier rendezvoused with Repose.

At 5:05, a muster of Forrestal crewmen � both in the carrier and aboard other ships � was begun. Fires were still burning in the ship's carpenter shop and on the main deck.

At 6:44 p.m., the fires were still burning.

At 8:30 p.m., the fires in the 02 and 03 levels were contained, but the area was still too hot to enter. Holes were cut in the flight deck to provide access to compartments below.

Ens. Schmidt and his damage control team continued to fight their way into burning compartments; his work later that afternoon was as an investigator for the damage control assistant. There were times he had to enter spaces that were virtually inaccessible. "I asked for volunteers," he recalled, "and I immediately had two or three who followed me back into the guts of the fire. Several times, people would come up to me and say, 'What can I do? How can I help?' ... At first, I couldn't find work for all the people who wanted to help. I can't give enough praise to the sailors I supervised. They fought the fire and did all the dirty jobs ... These kids worked all night, 24-28 hours, containing the fire. . . . I've nothing but praise for the American sailor."

� On the hangar deck, a chief petty officer � his soaked clothing plastered to his body � ran from burning hangar bay three and called for five volunteers. He got 30.

� At the height of the fire, Capt. John K. Beling, Forrestal's commanding officer, went to hangar bay two. He watched quietly for a while, told his men they were doing well. He returned to the bridge; there was nothing more he could do.

� Filipino stewards, some who appeared to weigh no more than 100 pounds, rolled 250-pound bombs to the edges and pushed them overboard.

� With strength born of adversity, 130-pound Lt. Otis Kight single-handedly carried a 250-pound bomb to the edge of the hangar deck and threw it over the side. His shipmates are certain he will never be able to repeat that feat.

� Chief Aviation Ornanceman Thomas Lawler escaped from his shop on the 03 level when the first explosion occurred and the overhead "began to glow like it was on fire." For hours afterwards, he disarmed aircraft in the after hangar bays, groping his way through smoke so thick that he could see no more than a foot ahead. "I don't believe we were in very great danger in hangar bay three," he said later. "All the fires were contained in the very aft end of the hangar bay. The only thing that worried me slightly at all was on the first trip in the hangar bay when you could see practically nothing at all [but] we kept hearing a gushing, a loud, gurgling sound and we couldn't quite determine what that was and the unknown always worries you a little bit. . ."

At 8:33 p.m., Forrestal reported that fires on the 02 level were under control but that fire fighting was greatly hampered because of smoke and heat.

At 8: 54, only the 02 level on the port side was still burning. Medical evacuation to Repose was in progress.

At 12:20 a.m., July 30, all the fires were out. Forrestal crewmembers continued to clear smoke and cool hot steel on the 02 and 03 levels.

The tragedy of the hours that had passed since the fire started began to penetrate into the minds and bodies of the men aboard the carrier. The adrenalin that had pumped through them began to seep away. They were tired but they could not sleep; they walked restlessly about the ship, lending a hand wherever they could.


As time passed, volunteers were still requested and swarms of men � men who had fought the fire since 11 a.m. and who were dead tired and sick from smoke and the sights they'd seen � forgot their fatigue and their sickness and raced through passageways to man the hoses again.

Lt. j.g. Frank Guinan sat on the deck next to his room, too tired to get up and go inside. "It seems so unreal," he said, and he added: "Nobody had better say to me that American youth [is] lazy. I saw men working today who were not only injured but thoroughly exhausted and they had to be carried away. They were trying so hard to help but they were actually becoming a burden."

It was time, now, to begin to assess the damage. There were four gaping holes in the flight deck where bombs exploded, pushing armored steel down and under � much like an old-fashioned hole in a beer can.

Stock was taken of the aircraft. It leveled off to a report of 26 either destroyed or jettisoned and 31 more damaged to some extent.

And it was time to arrive at a final toll of dead and injured. For hours, the muster of Forrestal men continued; it was made terrifically difficult because so many of the crew were scattered in other ships.

And it was time to recall how those ships had come to the aid of the stricken Forrestal. From Oriskany and Bon Homme Richard had come medical teams and fire-fighting equipment. The skippers of the destroyers USS Rupertus (DD 851) and USS George K. MacKenzie (DD 836) , in what Rear Adm. Harvey P. Lanham, ComCarDiv Two, called an act of "magnificent seamanship," had maneuvered their ships to within 20 feet of the carrier so fire hoses could be effectively used.

But mostly it was a time to think of shipmates, those who had fought the flames and died because of their heroism. They were men like Data Systems Technician 2nd Class Stephen L. Hock, who was one of the first to reach the 03 level and who fought the fire and aided survivors until he was driven back by fire and smoke, then donned an OBA and returned again to the blazing area to fight the flames and help the injured. He kept up the pace for hours, then was overcome in a flooded and gas-filled compartment. Efforts to revive him were unsuccessful.

They were men like Aviation Ordnanceman 2nd Class Joseph C. Shartzer who returned to the inferno on the 03 level from which he had narrowly escaped and sacrificed his life as he aided in rescuing trapped men and fighting the fire.

They were men like Aviation Boatswain's Mate (Hydaulics) 3rd Class Robert A. Rhuda, who could have escaped from the smoke-filled compartments where he was on duty as a police petty officer, but who remained behind to awaken and direct or physically assist shipmates out of the area � returning time and time again until the explosion of a bomb destroyed the compartment in which he was last seen.

They were men like that.

As Forrestal steamed for Subic Bay, a memorial service was held in Hangar Bay One for the crewmen who had given their lives for their ship and their country. More than 2,000 Forrestal men listened to and prayed with Chaplains Geoffrey Gaughan and David Cooper as they paid tribute to their lost shipmates. The three volleys fired by 13 U.S. Marines were followed by the benediction, which closed the service after 15 minutes of prayer and hymns.

The heroes and the brave men aboard Forrestal were uniformly praised by those under whom they served. Vice Adm. C. T. Booth, ComNavAirLant, paid tribute to their courage, as did Adm. Roy L. Johnson, CinCPacFlt, Adm. E. P. Holmes, CinCLantFlt, and Paul Nitze, Deputy Secretary of Defense, who also spoke for Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara.

And there was this personal message to Capt. Beling: "I want you and the men of your command to know that the thoughts of the American people are with you at this tragic time. We all feel a great sense of personal loss. The devotion to duty and courage of your men have not gone unnoticed. The sacrifices they have made shall not be in vain." It was signed by Lyndon B. Johnson.

Capt. Beling also commented on his crew: "I am most proud of the way the crew reacted. The thing that is foremost in my mind is the concrete demonstration that I have seen of the worth of American youth. I saw many examples of heroism. I saw, and subsequently heard of, not one single example of cowardice."

Forrestal men were men like that.

 

[Divine Wind]

Trump could have been a hero also, but for his feet. The ignorance of Trump questioning McCain's heroism.

True about Trump's feet deferment. Rush Limbaugh could have been a hero too except he had anal cysts.

Paul D. Colford, The Rush Limbaugh Story -
As for Limbaugh himself, the broadcaster stated that he was not drafted during the Vietnam War because he had been classified 4-F after a physical found that he had an “inoperable pilonidal cyst” and “a football knee from high school.” He added: “I made no effort to evade it or avoid it.”

Pilonidal Cyst Pictures, Treatment, Home Remedies, Causes & Surgery
Pilonidal cyst facts

• Pilonidal cysts are sacs filled with hair and skin debris that form at the top of the crease of the buttocks above the sacrum. A painful abscess can form if the cyst and the overlying skin become infected.
• Pilonidal cysts are caused by groups of hairs and debris trapped in the pores of the skin in the upper cleft of the buttock, forming an abscess.
• Risk factors for pilonidal cysts include being male, sedentary, having thick body hair, family history, being overweight, and previous pilonidal cysts.

 

[Divine Wind]

His stupid showing off caused this mess and it was covered up because of his father, an admiral.

“During the course of his flying career with the U.S. Navy, John McCain was involved in at least five major mishaps or crashes involving his plane. The most dramatic incidents occurred in 1967. He barely escaped with his life after a missile exploded aboard an aircraft carrier, the USS Forrestal, in July of that year, killing 134 of his fellow crew members. In October, McCain was shot down over Vietnam by a surface-to-air missile.”

This article is an indictment of this man and proves that President Trump was correct in is assessment that McCain “was no hero.”

Full story with lots and lots of links @ McCain’s Death Bed Secret Just Came Out About Who He Killed After Skeleton Suddenly Resurfaces

Interesting.....having been in the Navy for 21 years and using the Forrestal fire in training events....we were all told that it started when stray voltage caused a missile to fire across the flight deck and hit another plane......I wonder why the NAVY doesn't tell YOUR version. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM......

the Navy made a training vid on this called learn or burn

I don't recall the name of the movie, but I do recall the Forrestal fire being used as an example in mandatory shipboard firefighting classes. Of course, this was a full decade before the USS Stark was hit by two Iraqi Exocets.

 

[Divine Wind]

All lies and if you really are a "retired" member of the Army, you should know better.

 

[Divine Wind]

McCain as a veteran and a former POW, he gets my upmost respect. ...

As a politician, he gets nothing but my disdain for his RINO behavior. .....

Agreed on separating one's military service from their civilian actions be it Kerry, McCain or anyone else.

 

[polarbear]

McCain's father was a Navy Admiral. Is it possible that Admiral McCain was able to use his influence in the investigation of the fire on the USS Forestall to blame some sort of electronic glitch in his son's plane that never happened before or after the incident?

McCain's plane had NOTHING to do with the Zuni rocket that was fired through Electro Magnetic Interference (EMI) from an F-4 Phantom jet parked on the flight deck.

I was an Navy Electronics Technician and later a Surface Warfare Officer in charge of the ship's missile fire control radars. I know this shit like the back of my hand. Ever been on a Navy ship and ever noticed that almost everything has a grounding cable? Know why? EMI!

This is an attempt to smear McCain by individuals who cannot find their own ass with both hands.

People like you are typical. "I served on a blah blah so I know how XYZ works"
You know as much about induced EMF by EMP as a housewife does about the inner workings of the appliances she is using every day. As if anybody could pin point the source of an EMP huge enough to make the firing filament in an igniter glow white hot to a distant F4 on the flight deck....That would have required several hundred Gauss at the source (as the field strength is inversely proportional to the distance !!!)
If that "No blame for McCaine" version were true every explosive bolt in that vicinity should have been fired also, light bulbs should have flickered and every compass would have spun around....but the only thing that happened was that the missile behind McCain's plane fired after McCain did his idiotic wet start.
Strange how many mishaps happened around McCain while he was PIC of an aircraft but somehow he never was to blame...like when he caused a power blackout in Spain because he flew his plane into the power lines, crashed a T2 in Virginia...or trashing another AD 6 in Texas blaming it on engine failure while the subsequent investigation found that the engine was working just fine and that he used an inadequate approach power setting. Any other pilot would have been drummed out after that, but not McCain thanks to his daddy !
And now it`s because he is sabotaging any way he can the sitting President who calls a spade for what it is, including McCain.

 

[Divine Wind]

McCain's father was a Navy Admiral. Is it possible that Admiral McCain was able to use his influence in the investigation of the fire on the USS Forestall to blame some sort of electronic glitch in his son's plane that never happened before or after the incident?

McCain's plane had NOTHING to do with the Zuni rocket that was fired through Electro Magnetic Interference (EMI) from an F-4 Phantom jet parked on the flight deck.

I was an Navy Electronics Technician and later a Surface Warfare Officer in charge of the ship's missile fire control radars. I know this shit like the back of my hand. Ever been on a Navy ship and ever noticed that almost everything has a grounding cable? Know why? EMI!

This is an attempt to smear McCain by individuals who cannot find their own ass with both hands.

People like you are typical. "I served on a blah blah so I know how XYZ works"
You know as much about induced EMF by EMP as a housewife does about the inner workings of the appliances she is using every day. As if anybody could pin point the source of an EMP huge enough to make the firing filament in an igniter glow white hot to a distant F4 on the flight deck....That would have required several hundred Gauss at the source (as the field strength is inversely proportional to the distance !!!)
If that "No blame for McCaine" version were true every explosive bolt in that vicinity should have been fired also, light bulbs should have flickered and every compass would have spun around....but the only thing that happened was that the missile behind McCain's plane fired after McCain did his idiotic wet start.
Strange how many mishaps happened around McCain while he was PIC of an aircraft but somehow he never was to blame...like when he caused a power blackout in Spain because he flew his plane into the power lines, crashed a T2 in Virginia...or trashing another AD 6 in Texas blaming it on engine failure while the subsequent investigation found that the engine was working just fine and that he used an inadequate approach power setting. Any other pilot would have been drummed out after that, but not McCain thanks to his daddy !
And now it`s because he is sabotaging any way he can the sitting President who calls a spade for what it is, including McCain.

The Navy explanation of the accident was that a surge of electricity in the F-4 which had the missile caused by switching from GPU to aircraft power caused the Zuni to light off. Not EMP, RINO or Martians.

As posted previously, anyone who posts negatively against the entire military for political reasons should lose their right to call themselves a veteran.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

McCain's father was a Navy Admiral. Is it possible that Admiral McCain was able to use his influence in the investigation of the fire on the USS Forestall to blame some sort of electronic glitch in his son's plane that never happened before or after the incident?

McCain's plane had NOTHING to do with the Zuni rocket that was fired through Electro Magnetic Interference (EMI) from an F-4 Phantom jet parked on the flight deck.

I was an Navy Electronics Technician and later a Surface Warfare Officer in charge of the ship's missile fire control radars. I know this shit like the back of my hand. Ever been on a Navy ship and ever noticed that almost everything has a grounding cable? Know why? EMI!

This is an attempt to smear McCain by individuals who cannot find their own ass with both hands.

People like you are typical. "I served on a blah blah so I know how XYZ works"
You know as much about induced EMF by EMP as a housewife does about the inner workings of the appliances she is using every day. As if anybody could pin point the source of an EMP huge enough to make the firing filament in an igniter glow white hot to a distant F4 on the flight deck....That would have required several hundred Gauss at the source (as the field strength is inversely proportional to the distance !!!)
If that "No blame for McCaine" version were true every explosive bolt in that vicinity should have been fired also, light bulbs should have flickered and every compass would have spun around....but the only thing that happened was that the missile behind McCain's plane fired after McCain did his idiotic wet start.
Strange how many mishaps happened around McCain while he was PIC of an aircraft but somehow he never was to blame...like when he caused a power blackout in Spain because he flew his plane into the power lines, crashed a T2 in Virginia...or trashing another AD 6 in Texas blaming it on engine failure while the subsequent investigation found that the engine was working just fine and that he used an inadequate approach power setting. Any other pilot would have been drummed out after that, but not McCain thanks to his daddy !
And now it`s because he is sabotaging any way he can the sitting President who calls a spade for what it is, including McCain.

Man, who knew those housewives were that smart!

OK shit for brains! Let's lay out your penis to see which one has the longest! What is your area of expertise and where are your links proving what you claim? Oh, that's right! You have NOTHING!

I was an electronics technician and a fire control radar officer. I was also a nuclear weapons officer. Those are about as common as hen's teeth in the surface Navy.

My radar systems could cook your testicles so fast that you could carve them off and eat them for lunch! You are a fraud, plain and simple.

I hate morons like you, not because you are a moron because we have plenty of those to spare. I hate the fact that you would argue with FACTS when you have nothing to dispute them.

Enjoy your stupidity and spitefulness. I hope your hate keeps you warm at night.

 

[bodecea]

His stupid showing off caused this mess and it was covered up because of his father, an admiral.

“During the course of his flying career with the U.S. Navy, John McCain was involved in at least five major mishaps or crashes involving his plane. The most dramatic incidents occurred in 1967. He barely escaped with his life after a missile exploded aboard an aircraft carrier, the USS Forrestal, in July of that year, killing 134 of his fellow crew members. In October, McCain was shot down over Vietnam by a surface-to-air missile.”

This article is an indictment of this man and proves that President Trump was correct in is assessment that McCain “was no hero.”

Full story with lots and lots of links @ McCain’s Death Bed Secret Just Came Out About Who He Killed After Skeleton Suddenly Resurfaces

Interesting.....having been in the Navy for 21 years and using the Forrestal fire in training events....we were all told that it started when stray voltage caused a missile to fire across the flight deck and hit another plane......I wonder why the NAVY doesn't tell YOUR version. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM......

the Navy made a training vid on this called learn or burn

Yep...and changed everything about fire fighting aboard ship......because that first big explosion took out the designated fire fighting team.

 

[rightwinger]

McCain's father was a Navy Admiral. Is it possible that Admiral McCain was able to use his influence in the investigation of the fire on the USS Forestall to blame some sort of electronic glitch in his son's plane that never happened before or after the incident?

McCain's plane had NOTHING to do with the Zuni rocket that was fired through Electro Magnetic Interference (EMI) from an F-4 Phantom jet parked on the flight deck.

I was an Navy Electronics Technician and later a Surface Warfare Officer in charge of the ship's missile fire control radars. I know this shit like the back of my hand. Ever been on a Navy ship and ever noticed that almost everything has a grounding cable? Know why? EMI!

This is an attempt to smear McCain by individuals who cannot find their own ass with both hands.

People like you are typical. "I served on a blah blah so I know how XYZ works"
You know as much about induced EMF by EMP as a housewife does about the inner workings of the appliances she is using every day. As if anybody could pin point the source of an EMP huge enough to make the firing filament in an igniter glow white hot to a distant F4 on the flight deck....That would have required several hundred Gauss at the source (as the field strength is inversely proportional to the distance !!!)
If that "No blame for McCaine" version were true every explosive bolt in that vicinity should have been fired also, light bulbs should have flickered and every compass would have spun around....but the only thing that happened was that the missile behind McCain's plane fired after McCain did his idiotic wet start.
Strange how many mishaps happened around McCain while he was PIC of an aircraft but somehow he never was to blame...like when he caused a power blackout in Spain because he flew his plane into the power lines, crashed a T2 in Virginia...or trashing another AD 6 in Texas blaming it on engine failure while the subsequent investigation found that the engine was working just fine and that he used an inadequate approach power setting. Any other pilot would have been drummed out after that, but not McCain thanks to his daddy !
And now it`s because he is sabotaging any way he can the sitting President who calls a spade for what it is, including McCain.

It was not an Electro Magnetic Pulse (EMP). Those are generated in nuclear blasts

The problem was Electro Static Discharge (ESD). The same shock you feel when your rub your feet on a carpet and touch a metal object.

McCain had nothing to do with it. The navy has strict ESD protocols in effect now