The Trouble With The Two State Solution

[Calypso Jones]

There no reason for the Arabs to clean up Israel's mess. The Zionists have become the Nazis they hated.

you are evil.

 

[MisterBeale]

The only one-state solution I see working is to make the Palestinians and Israel area under control of the U.N.
Also move the U.N. from New York to over there.

Brilliant solution IMO!

 

[MisterBeale]

That oughta be fun . They call that ethnic cleansing

A war crime

Agreed.

It's also dumb as hell and reveals a fundamental ignorance about this region of the world, that most folks have. I should be surprised though.

This is akin to saying, deport Utah's Mormons to Ireland. That's two vastly different types of Christians, and two different cultures, who don't get on. . . AT ALL.

Same here. The only reason Iran deals with, and uses Hamas as a proxy, is because Israel is a rival. But the Palis are Arabs that worship Sunni. Iranians are Persians that practice Shia Islam.

Not even close to being the same. Iran wouldn't take them.

 

[MisterBeale]

Anybody thinking that Joe Screw Up's solution will be to bring a couple of million Palestinians to the US?

Probably. I just hope he houses them next to the thousands and thousands of Chinese he is bringing in. . .

 

[USAF 2023]

Not hitler's idea to kill the Jews. That idea, in Germany was mainstream long before Hitler

That’s right.., Somebody forced him He wasn’t responsible for Mein Kampf or The Final Solution Keep telling yourself that

 

[MisterBeale]

Caitlin Johnstone: The Two-State Lie​

Caitlin Johnstone: The Two-State Lie

Netanyahu is so politically desperate, and opposing Palestinian rights is so popular in Israel, that the regime can’t resist telling the truth about itself. By Caitlin Johnstone CaitlinJohnstone.com.au Listen to Tim Foley reading this article. There’s been a surprising number of recent Is

consortiumnews.com

Netanyahu is so politically desperate, and opposing Palestinian rights is so popular in Israel, that the regime can’t resist telling the truth about itself.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in January 2014. (World Economic Forum, Flickr, CC BY-NC-SA 2.0)

". . . Netanyahu’s senior advisor Mark Regev told Piers Morgan that a true Palestinian state with its own military and true sovereignty was never an option for Israel, calling it “common sense” that Palestinians should at best have “less than a state.”

Israeli Ambassador to the U.K. Tzipi Hotovely told Sky News last week that there was “absolutely no” possibility of a two-state solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict.. . . "

<snip>
No Limit on Killing Innocents

". . . The entire position of the pro-Israel side of the Gaza debate is hinged on the premise that there is no limit on the number of innocents you can morally kill when pursuing a military objective.

From their point of view, not only is it perfectly acceptable that 10 thousand children have been killed by Israel’s bombing campaign in Gaza, it would be perfectly acceptable if it was 100 thousand, or a million.

As far as the Israel supporter’s moral framework is concerned, Hamas could have killed one-10th the number of Israelis it killed on Oct. 7 and Israel can kill 10 times the number of children it has killed, and Israel’s actions in Gaza would still be justified.

For normal, psychologically healthy people, this position looks deranged. Of course there’s a limit on the number of innocent people it’s acceptable to kill while pursuing military objectives, especially objectives that could be resolved non-militarily. . . "

 

[USAF 2023]

Caitlin Johnstone: The Two-State Lie​

Caitlin Johnstone: The Two-State Lie

Netanyahu is so politically desperate, and opposing Palestinian rights is so popular in Israel, that the regime can’t resist telling the truth about itself. By Caitlin Johnstone CaitlinJohnstone.com.au Listen to Tim Foley reading this article. There’s been a surprising number of recent Is

consortiumnews.com

Netanyahu is so politically desperate, and opposing Palestinian rights is so popular in Israel, that the regime can’t resist telling the truth about itself.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in January 2014. (World Economic Forum, Flickr, CC BY-NC-SA 2.0)

". . . Netanyahu’s senior advisor Mark Regev told Piers Morgan that a true Palestinian state with its own military and true sovereignty was never an option for Israel, calling it “common sense” that Palestinians should at best have “less than a state.”

Israeli Ambassador to the U.K. Tzipi Hotovely told Sky News last week that there was “absolutely no” possibility of a two-state solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict.. . . "

<snip>
No Limit on Killing Innocents

". . . The entire position of the pro-Israel side of the Gaza debate is hinged on the premise that there is no limit on the number of innocents you can morally kill when pursuing a military objective.

From their point of view, not only is it perfectly acceptable that 10 thousand children have been killed by Israel’s bombing campaign in Gaza, it would be perfectly acceptable if it was 100 thousand, or a million.

As far as the Israel supporter’s moral framework is concerned, Hamas could have killed one-10th the number of Israelis it killed on Oct. 7 and Israel can kill 10 times the number of children it has killed, and Israel’s actions in Gaza would still be justified.

For normal, psychologically healthy people, this position looks deranged. Of course there’s a limit on the number of innocent people it’s acceptable to kill while pursuing military objectives, especially objectives that could be resolved non-militarily. . . "

MAYBE they should release the Hostages to start with A Palestinian State was proposed by two other PM and was rejected

 

[rampart]

Brilliant solution IMO!

Brilliant solution IMO!

no reason to move the un hq (except that trump 47 will demand its removal so he can build a golf course that his voters need in new york.

the original un resolution designated jerusalem an "international city" and gives the israelis no authority to keep christians or muslims from the temple mount.

 

[MisterBeale]

MAYBE they should release the Hostages to start with A Palestinian State was proposed by two other PM and was rejected

You know what I love?

When folks make comments on posts that I make, with a link? Only to prove to me, they never read the article. . .


First. . . Israel doesn't give a shit about the hostages. They would sooner kill them than look at them. That has already been addressed, in multiple places on this forum.

That was the point of sacrificing them. They were liberal, secular Jews, who don't even support that current regime. We know they would rather shoot them, then get them back. They are a liability to the current regime, they will only tell the truth about Oct. 7th.

Do you even know what the Hannibal Directive is?

Hannibal Directive - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Hannibal Directive - Featured Documentary​

I'm assuming you do, since it is yoar job to gas-light, lie, and otherwise run interference for these war crimes, yes?



. . . and second, as far as. . .

A Palestinian State was proposed by two other PM and was rejected

I'm not even going to address that, this is what that entire article was about.

 

[USAF 2023]

no reason to move the un hq (except that trump 47 will demand its removal so he can build a golf course that his voters need in new york.

the original un resolution designated jerusalem an "international city" and gives the israelis no authority to keep christians or muslims from the temple mount.

A ignorant statement from a ignorant person The Palestinians have control of the Temple Mount Jews and Christians may ONLY VISIT four Hours a Day 5 Days a Week If the Palestinians ever get control of E Jerusalem they intend to keep JEWS away from the Western Wall. How do you feel about that? The original UN Resolution demanded Jerusalem as an International City so what gave Jordan the authority to keep the Israelis from their Holy Sites or are you too stupid to know the difference?

 

[USAF 2023]

You know what I love?

When folks make comments on posts that I make, with a link? Only to prove to me, they never read the article. . .


First. . . Israel doesn't give a shit about the hostages. They would sooner kill them than look at them. That has already been addressed, in multiple places on this forum.

That was the point of sacrificing them. They were liberal, secular Jews, who don't even support that current regime. We know they would rather shoot them, then get them back. They are a liability to the current regime, they will only tell the truth about Oct. 7th.

Do you even know what the Hannibal Directive is?

Hannibal Directive - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Hannibal Directive - Featured Documentary​

I'm assuming you do, since it is yoar job to gas-light, lie, and otherwise run interference for these war crimes, yes?



. . . and second, as far as. . .

I'm not even going to address that, this is what that entire article was about.

The way you say Israel doesn’t give a Shit about the Hostages I say that Hamas didn’t give a Shit about the repercussions . There was a exchange of Hostages due to a “ truce” until it was broken by Hamas

 

[MisterBeale]

the original un resolution designated jerusalem an "international city" and gives the israelis no authority to keep christians or muslims from the temple mount.

. . . and yet?

That is how all of this started.

Israeli settlers storm Al-Aqsa Mosque complex on fifth day of Sukkot

Israeli settlers storm complex in groups and attempt to perform ‘Talmudic rituals’, according to a Waqf official.

www.aljazeera.com

4 Oct 2023

What’s behind the Ramadan raids at Jerusalem’s Al-Aqsa Mosque?

Israeli forces regularly storm Al-Aqsa Mosque as worshippers visit the site during Ramadan.

www.aljazeera.com

5 Apr 2023

So? Why did the UN and international community do nothing then?

Hmmmmmm?

Several days before the war, this was foreseen by both Egypt and the US, here is Benjamin Netanyahu's allies, purposely trying to provoke war. . .

 

[MisterBeale]

There was a exchange of Hostages due to a “ truce” until it was broken by Hamas

So says Israel.

 

[rampart]

. . . and yet?

That is how all of this started.

Israeli settlers storm Al-Aqsa Mosque complex on fifth day of Sukkot

Israeli settlers storm complex in groups and attempt to perform ‘Talmudic rituals’, according to a Waqf official.

www.aljazeera.com

4 Oct 2023

What’s behind the Ramadan raids at Jerusalem’s Al-Aqsa Mosque?

Israeli forces regularly storm Al-Aqsa Mosque as worshippers visit the site during Ramadan.

www.aljazeera.com

5 Apr 2023

So? Why did the UN and international community do nothing then?

Hmmmmmm?

Several days before the war, this was foreseen by both Egypt and the US, here is Benjamin Netanyahu's allies, purposely trying to provoke war. . .

plenty of provocation, on both sides (or 3 sides if you count our "left behind" crowd who think this madness is desirable for their own apocalyptic purposes.)

 

[ShahdagMountains]

A ignorant statement from a ignorant person The Palestinians have control of the Temple Mount Jews and Christians may ONLY VISIT four Hours a Day 5 Days a Week If the Palestinians ever get control of E Jerusalem they intend to keep JEWS away from the Western Wall. How do you feel about that? The original UN Resolution demanded Jerusalem as an International City so what gave Jordan the authority to keep the Israelis from their Holy Sites or are you too stupid to know the difference?

How did that go, under the Jordanian occupation?

Jordanian soldier at the Western Wall, 1948, shortly after the expulsion or imprisonment of the Jews from the Jewish Quarter. Jews were banned from the Wall between 1948 and 1967. The Mughrabi Quarter begins with the wall on the left. (Associated Press)

 

[elektra]

That’s right.., Somebody forced him He wasn’t responsible for Mein Kampf or The Final Solution Keep telling yourself that

Just read history, the call to kill the jews came long before Hitler was even born. Mein Kampf or the Final Solution, no original idea of Hitlers.

Than of course there were the pogroms all across Europe and Western Asia.

So yes, keep your eyes shut to all the facts of history and maybe, just maybe, we can repeat some of those good ole times.

 

[USAF 2023]

Just read history, the call to kill the jews came long before Hitler was even born. Mein Kampf or the Final Solution, no original idea of Hitlers.

Than of course there were the pogroms all across Europe and Western Asia.

So yes, keep your eyes shut to all the facts of history and maybe, just maybe, we can repeat some of those good ole times.

We all know about the Pogroms all across Europe and the elimination of Jews However it was Hitler’s idea to eliminate every single Jew in Europe and if he could to do it world wide
So keep your mouth shut to all the facts of History

 

[Lesh]

We all know about the Pogroms all across Europe and the elimination of Jews However it was Hitler’s idea to eliminate every single Jew in Europe and if he could to do it world wide
So keep your mouth shut to all the facts of History

Electra is a closet Nazi

Meh…

 

[elektra]

We all know about the Pogroms all across Europe and the elimination of Jews However it was Hitler’s idea to eliminate every single Jew in Europe and if he could to do it world wide
So keep your mouth shut to all the facts of History

it was not hitler's idea, he heard it from his childhood on, there was calls to kill all the Jews long before Hitler

Long before Hitler, they did not shout, kill 27% of all jews in Poland, the shout was to kill em all, period

 

[Lesh]

it was not hitler's idea, he heard it from his childhood on, there was calls to kill all the Jews long before Hitler

Long before Hitler, they did not shout, kill 27% of all jews in Poland, the shout was to kill em all, period

Wow. A Hitler defender.

Amazing