The Troops are concerned about gays serving openly.

[Seawytch]

When asked "What is your current professional military judgement about the risk to military effectiveness?", the four military Chiefs said:

- GEN. PETER CHIARELLI – VICE CHIEF OF ARMY: “I had a session with commanders last Friday, they have indicated no issues so far in Tier I and Tier II training as they get ready to kick off our Tier III training.”

- GEN. JAMES AMOS – CHIEF OF THE MARINE CORPS: “And I’m looking for specifically for issues coming out of the Tier II and Tier III training and to be honest with you, Chairman, we’ve not seen it…there hasn’t been the recalcitrant push back, there hasn’t been the anxiety over it from the forces in the field.”

- GEN. NORTON SCHWARTZ – CHIEF OF AIR FORCE: “We are mitigating the risk in the way we are approaching this and so I’m more comfortable than I was on the 22 of December, but we still have a ways to go and it requires the constant attention of all of us to bring this home.”

- ADM. GARY ROUGHEAD – CHIEF OF NAVY: “I’m very comfortable. I was very comfortable in making the recommendation last December and it’s consistent with what I continue to see in the Navy today.”

http://armedservices.house.gov/inde...Group_id=13e47ffa-0753-47a7-ad5e-1ba7592015c9

Just as predicted, the lifting of DADT is a big "ho hum". The troops want to do their jobs and get home in one piece and then get a little piece. They don't care what sex the piece is that the other guy is getting.

 

[yota5]

Dont hold your breath waiting for a reply, James. He still hasnt bothered to answer my questions, nor has he answered questions from others.

He started off seemingly normal and wanting to discuss this. But then the mask kinda slipped. Too bad.

Good morning Imeuru. I don't spend the majority of my day glued to this board. I have a life. If I don't answer your questions immediately it's because I'm not log on.

The mask has never slipped. My position has remained the same since line one. Sexual deviants serving openly in our military will have a negative effect on our combat readiness. Our troops have been given direct orders to keep their mouths shut about this issue. As usual their opinions and feelings will not be considered. We are in effect telling them to be seen, not heard, and to run along and die when instructed to do so.

If you have to have me explain to you what a sexual deviant is then you're too naive to discuss this latest liberal social engineering scheme.

Thanks for the kind words about my boys. My oldest son still serves. He is a three time Iraqi Freedom vet. His younger brother was injured during his last week in Iraq. Both he, and I are veterans.

 

[Dr.Drock]

Dont hold your breath waiting for a reply, James. He still hasnt bothered to answer my questions, nor has he answered questions from others.

He started off seemingly normal and wanting to discuss this. But then the mask kinda slipped. Too bad.

Good morning Imeuru. I don't spend the majority of my day glued to this board. I have a life. If I don't answer your questions immediately it's because I'm not log on.

The mask has never slipped. My position has remained the same since line one. Sexual deviants serving openly in our military will have a negative effect on our combat readiness. Our troops have been given direct orders to keep their mouths shut about this issue. As usual their opinions and feelings will not be considered. We are in effect telling them to be seen, not heard, and to run along and die when instructed to do so.

If you have to have me explain to you what a sexual deviant is then you're too naive to discuss this latest liberal social engineering scheme.

Thanks for the kind words about my boys. My oldest son still serves. He is a three time Iraqi Freedom vet. His younger brother was injured during his last week in Iraq. Both he, and I are veterans.

Why at the beginning did you pretend it was about STD's? Why didn't you just come right out and say "I don't want gays in the military because I hate gays"?

 

[gekaap]

The mask has never slipped. My position has remained the same since line one. Sexual deviants serving openly in our military will have a negative effect on our combat readiness.

The only sexual deviants are the people like you who insist on trying to control how the rest of us have sex. It's a pretty twisted obsession you have. So I agree, people like you should be barred from serving in the military.

 

[rightwinger]

The mask has never slipped. My position has remained the same since line one. Sexual deviants serving openly in our military will have a negative effect on our combat readiness.

The only sexual deviants are the people like you who insist on trying to control how the rest of us have sex. It's a pretty twisted obsession you have. So I agree, people like you should be barred from serving in the military.

He does raise an interesting point..

Should sexual deviants be banned from the Army?
or
Should simple minded people who hate anyone who is different than them be banned from the Army?

 

[JamesInFlorida]

Dont hold your breath waiting for a reply, James. He still hasnt bothered to answer my questions, nor has he answered questions from others.

He started off seemingly normal and wanting to discuss this. But then the mask kinda slipped. Too bad.

Good morning Imeuru. I don't spend the majority of my day glued to this board. I have a life. If I don't answer your questions immediately it's because I'm not log on.

The mask has never slipped. My position has remained the same since line one. Sexual deviants serving openly in our military will have a negative effect on our combat readiness. Our troops have been given direct orders to keep their mouths shut about this issue. As usual their opinions and feelings will not be considered. We are in effect telling them to be seen, not heard, and to run along and die when instructed to do so.

If you have to have me explain to you what a sexual deviant is then you're too naive to discuss this latest liberal social engineering scheme.

Thanks for the kind words about my boys. My oldest son still serves. He is a three time Iraqi Freedom vet. His younger brother was injured during his last week in Iraq. Both he, and I are veterans.

Once again: what would you say to somebody you served with who came out of the closet tomorrow? (hypothetically speaking of course).

And the military can't ask every single person in the military what their thoughts or feelings are-there's way too many. And this is about all issues-not just DADT.

And if you don't want a job where you do what you're told to, and your feelings aren't taken into consideration, the solution is simple: don't join the military.

Lastly-to think that your son(s), or yourself speak on behalf of the entire military, is one of the most arrogant things I've ever heard of.

And thank you for your service.

 

[bodecea]

The mask has never slipped. My position has remained the same since line one. Sexual deviants serving openly in our military will have a negative effect on our combat readiness.

The only sexual deviants are the people like you who insist on trying to control how the rest of us have sex. It's a pretty twisted obsession you have. So I agree, people like you should be barred from serving in the military.

It IS odd how those against homosexuality seem to want to talk about homosexual sex MORE than homosexuals do... It's very odd.

 

[bodecea]

Dont hold your breath waiting for a reply, James. He still hasnt bothered to answer my questions, nor has he answered questions from others.

He started off seemingly normal and wanting to discuss this. But then the mask kinda slipped. Too bad.

Good morning Imeuru. I don't spend the majority of my day glued to this board. I have a life. If I don't answer your questions immediately it's because I'm not log on.

The mask has never slipped. My position has remained the same since line one. Sexual deviants serving openly in our military will have a negative effect on our combat readiness. Our troops have been given direct orders to keep their mouths shut about this issue. As usual their opinions and feelings will not be considered. We are in effect telling them to be seen, not heard, and to run along and die when instructed to do so.

If you have to have me explain to you what a sexual deviant is then you're too naive to discuss this latest liberal social engineering scheme.

Thanks for the kind words about my boys. My oldest son still serves. He is a three time Iraqi Freedom vet. His younger brother was injured during his last week in Iraq. Both he, and I are veterans.

A rather Ironic point....you are upset about the troops having to "keep their mouths shut" but you support a system where gay soldiers/sailors have to "keep their mouths shut"....some are more equal than others, eh?

 

[Montrovant]

Dont hold your breath waiting for a reply, James. He still hasnt bothered to answer my questions, nor has he answered questions from others.

He started off seemingly normal and wanting to discuss this. But then the mask kinda slipped. Too bad.

Good morning Imeuru. I don't spend the majority of my day glued to this board. I have a life. If I don't answer your questions immediately it's because I'm not log on.

The mask has never slipped. My position has remained the same since line one. Sexual deviants serving openly in our military will have a negative effect on our combat readiness. Our troops have been given direct orders to keep their mouths shut about this issue. As usual their opinions and feelings will not be considered. We are in effect telling them to be seen, not heard, and to run along and die when instructed to do so.

If you have to have me explain to you what a sexual deviant is then you're too naive to discuss this latest liberal social engineering scheme.

Thanks for the kind words about my boys. My oldest son still serves. He is a three time Iraqi Freedom vet. His younger brother was injured during his last week in Iraq. Both he, and I are veterans.

So, here is a summary of what your position appears to be regarding the bolded part of your quote :

yota5 : Sexual deviants should not be allowed to serve in the military

myself and others : Ok, well just what constitutes sexual deviants?

yota5 : If I have to explain that then you are too naive to discuss it. Or, in other words, if you don't already agree with me I'm not going to explain my position to you.

Sounds to me as though you either are unable to clarify your opinion, perhaps because it isn't well-formed, or you are unwilling to do so, probably because it would lead to an acknowledgment that many heterosexuals would also need to be banned from military service because of their 'sexual deviancy'.
Whatever the case, stating an opinion based on an obviously subjective parameter and then refusing to explain the boundaries of that subjective parameter is silly and hurts whatever credibility you might have in this argument.

 

[WorldWatcher]

The mask has never slipped. My position has remained the same since line one. Sexual deviants serving openly in our military will have a negative effect on our combat readiness.

The only sexual deviants are the people like you who insist on trying to control how the rest of us have sex. It's a pretty twisted obsession you have. So I agree, people like you should be barred from serving in the military.

Should sexual deviants be banned from the Army?

I can't speak for the Army, but I have a passing knowledge of the Navy.

If "sexual deviance" is defined as non penal/vaginal sexual relations, it's a good thing we didn't have that rule when I was in. Pulling out of the Philippines, Thailand, Hong Kong, etc... we'd have left half the battle group behind.


>>>>

 

[rightwinger]

The only sexual deviants are the people like you who insist on trying to control how the rest of us have sex. It's a pretty twisted obsession you have. So I agree, people like you should be barred from serving in the military.

Should sexual deviants be banned from the Army?

I can't speak for the Army, but I have a passing knowledge of the Navy.

If "sexual deviance" is defined as none penal/vaginal sexual relations, it's a good thing we didn't have that rule when I was in. Pulling out of the Philippines, Thailand, Hong Kong, etc... we'd have left half the battle group behind.


>>>>

Not yota

Missionary Position with the lights off

 

[gekaap]

Not yota

Missionary Position with the lights off

Don't forget, never out of wedlock, and no enjoying it. It's for procreation only.

 

[blu]

When asked "What is your current professional military judgement about the risk to military effectiveness?", the four military Chiefs said:

- GEN. PETER CHIARELLI – VICE CHIEF OF ARMY: “I had a session with commanders last Friday, they have indicated no issues so far in Tier I and Tier II training as they get ready to kick off our Tier III training.”

- GEN. JAMES AMOS – CHIEF OF THE MARINE CORPS: “And I’m looking for specifically for issues coming out of the Tier II and Tier III training and to be honest with you, Chairman, we’ve not seen it…there hasn’t been the recalcitrant push back, there hasn’t been the anxiety over it from the forces in the field.”

- GEN. NORTON SCHWARTZ – CHIEF OF AIR FORCE: “We are mitigating the risk in the way we are approaching this and so I’m more comfortable than I was on the 22 of December, but we still have a ways to go and it requires the constant attention of all of us to bring this home.”

- ADM. GARY ROUGHEAD – CHIEF OF NAVY: “I’m very comfortable. I was very comfortable in making the recommendation last December and it’s consistent with what I continue to see in the Navy today.”

Hearings - Armed Services Republicans

Just as predicted, the lifting of DADT is a big "ho hum". The troops want to do their jobs and get home in one piece and then get a little piece. They don't care what sex the piece is that the other guy is getting.

 

[BlindBoo]

WTF good is an annual test ????

What about the ALL-IMPORTANT "in-between" periods between annual testing.........which it doesn't take to much to figure out that testing the ******* queers weekly would be too onerous.....and impractical. Thus making the "annual tests" just a useless BULLSHIT exercise !!!

Face it. The Obamarrhoidal Administration, with its fucked up PC Agenda, is endangering the lives of not only the queers, but the normals in the Military.

The Military ?

There are enough high ranking military that will kiss the President's arse no matter what the issue.

Consider the Muslim "Psychiatrist" Jihadist Major Hasan: FOR MONTHS, the Military spewed out the Obamarrhoidal PC line without mentioning the word "terrrorist", Jihadist, or even Islam claiming that it was an isolated nutcase occurrence on par with the nutcase that shot the congresswoman in the head, or the Columbine shootings, etc., even though the Jihadist Arsehole Hassan howled Allahu Akbar and had numerous correspondence with Osama Bin Laden's substitute Awaki (sp).

On what basis do you pre-suppose that gay people have HIV? On what basis do you pre-suppose that straight soldiers cannot contract HIV between their yearly test? And on what basis do you find any relevance to going off on tangents such as Kathy Giffords or the Columbine shooting? It's obvious that you have nothing to say that is based on a rational view of the issue, and that you're more interested in ranting mindlessly. No, what you're saying doesn't bear repeating, because it's been so thoroughly debunked you actually sound less intelligent than the OP for saying it now.

Geekrap,

Queers are more prone than normals to get HIV, probably by a factor close to 10 to one. I don't have the stats, but I betcha that in spite of your Geekrappola you wouldn't stake your life on the fact that I'm wrong. Being a queer geek you'd naturally lie about that.

Obviously normals are able to get HIV, the Bubonic plague, Leprosy, etc., between annual tests ........ however the obvious fact is that they are a helluva lot less likely to contract HIV, than the ******* queers.

The relevance of the Kathy Gifford, Columbine shootings, etc., is that they are obviously not connected to Islamofascist Terrorism. While the jihadist Whackjob Maj Hasan's terrorism is.......yet, the Military brass are willing to abide by Presidential whims of the MONUMENTAL FRAUD Obami Salaami, whatever the issue......even to the extent of toeing the ridiculous policy of permitting the ******* queers to openly practice their perversion openly while in the military.

If you weren't an Obamarrhoidal stooge you wouldn't have made your ludicrous post. You are probably a ******* queer to boot and that would explain your mental aberration more definitively.

People who have unprotected sex, or who share needles are more prone to catching the virus that anyone else. Doesn't matter if your straight or gay.

I've often found that those who are most adamantly against homosexuality do so because they know deep down in their dear little hearts they're queer too!

Better Latent than never queertama!

 

[Gadawg73]

Worked a case today where the detective with the local jurisdiction is a lesbian. And man, is she ever a lesbian.
Fine job she did as she has nailed the accused.
It has been and always will be about WORK ETHIC AND PREPAREDNESS.
If your milk is weak and you are not disciplined enough to get the job done around others that may be different than you then quit and go home.

 

[High_Gravity]

I think the troops are more concerned about if whether they are going to get their next paycheck.

 

[High_Gravity]

I had sex with a married woman when I was single, with no condom. Do I qualify as a sexual deviant who should be barred from Military service?

 

[yota5]

Dang! I took a couple of hours off to go fishing, and the same gays are logged in blowing the same smoke. None of you commenting on this issue in support of gays have a frame of reference with which to form an opinion. You haven't served in the military, or even talked to a soldier. You folks hold soldiers in contempt, and you don't like them.

So let me tell you what you've accomplished. Nothing. No matter how much demented smoke you blow things will remain the same. You folks are still gay, and sexual deviants still shouldn't be allowed to serve in the military. Sorry gang that is just the way things are.

 

[bodecea]

Dang! I took a couple of hours off to go fishing, and the same gays are logged in blowing the same smoke. None of you commenting on this issue in support of gays have a frame of reference with which to form an opinion. You haven't served in the military, or even talked to a soldier. You folks hold soldiers in contempt, and you don't like them.

So let me tell you what you've accomplished. Nothing. No matter how much demented smoke you blow things will remain the same. You folks are still gay, and sexual deviants still shouldn't be allowed to serve in the military. Sorry gang that is just the way things are.

What about my 21 years in the Navy doesn't count as having served?

 

[Seawytch]

Dang! I took a couple of hours off to go fishing, and the same gays are logged in blowing the same smoke. None of you commenting on this issue in support of gays have a frame of reference with which to form an opinion. You haven't served in the military, or even talked to a soldier. You folks hold soldiers in contempt, and you don't like them.

So let me tell you what you've accomplished. Nothing. No matter how much demented smoke you blow things will remain the same. You folks are still gay, and sexual deviants still shouldn't be allowed to serve in the military. Sorry gang that is just the way things are.

What about my 21 years in the Navy doesn't count as having served?

Sorry Bod, gay service doesn't "count". (It leaves me out too )