The Touchy Subject of Black Confederate Soldiers

[EdwinAMartin]

After the Emancipation Proclamation, over a million slaves escaped to Union lines

And promptly herded into camps and plantations and force to stay there. Sherman handed out land to some, to keep them from following the Army and demanding to be fed. After the war most of the land was taken back and handed to the state govts. and military governors to do with as they pleased.

 

[JoeB131]

You're an uneducated moron and troll. Historians have documented it and published maps of where the camps were located, on rivers and railroads; no excuses for not shipping food to them. Run along and spam some other threads.

Uh, huh.

Um, have you found that Christian Country that was recently invaded by Muslims?

 

[rightwinger]

The Constitution isn't about "slavery", it just didn't outlaw it like it probably should have. The Founders (many of whom were slave owners themselves) realized slavery was in moral opposition to a country built on "All Men are Created Equal", but hoped that it would wither and die like it was doing in the rest of the world.

Our Constitution neglected to forbid slavery to appease the same states that left because of it.

 

[rightwinger]

And promptly herded into camps and plantations and force to stay there. Sherman handed out land to some, to keep them from following the Army and demanding to be fed. After the war most of the land was taken back and handed to the state govts. and military governors to do with as they pleased.

What to do with four million recently freed slaves was a crisis.
There was no easy answer

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Best books on the Reconstruction farce and it's corruption and failure are Ordeal By Fire...

Ordeal By Fire: The Civil War and Reconstruction

Ships directly from Amazon!

www.goodreads.com

... and

Reconstruction -Eric Foner:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/2703129

For the contraband camps, see Forced To Glory, by Lerone Bennett:

Forced Into Glory

Beginning with the argument that the Emancipation Proclamation did not actually free African American slaves, this dissenting view of Lincoln's greatness surveys the president's policies, speeches, and private utterances and concludes that he had little real interest in abolition. Pointing to...

books.google.com

Maps and various articles on contraband camps and letters by their commanders complaining about conditions and the lack of food and medical care can be found online, except by certain halfwits like Joe. The Peanut Gallery can note the camps were nearly on major rivers and transportation routes; no excuses for the filthy conditions and starvation.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

What to do with four million recently freed slaves was a crisis.
There was no easy answer

That can be a flimsy excuse for the early months after invasion, but not for the entire years following.

 

[Unkotare]

Texas v White

^^

 

[rightwinger]

That can be a flimsy excuse for the early months after invasion, but not for the entire years following.

Crippling racism lasted for a hundred years after the war
Communities north and south did not welcome freed slaves

 

[Quantrill]

They weren't fighting for the "Constitution"; they were fighting so a few jerks could keep owning other people.

And not even because the end of slavery was imminent. It would have still taken decades for enough legislators to be elected to outlaw it.

Slavery was legal and protected under the Constitution of the United States of America. The North was fighting against the Constitution. The South was fighting for the Constitution.

It's very simple. The North was traitor to the Constitution, not the South.

What's the matter? You afraid to admit it?

Quantrill

 

[rightwinger]

Slavery was legal and protected under the Constitution of the United States of America. The North was fighting against the Constitution. The South was fighting for the Constitution.

It's very simple. The North was traitor to the Constitution, not the South.

What's the matter? You afraid to admit it?

Quantrill

Attacking Ft Sumter was not legal and was an act of war
The Confederacy was not invaded over slavery

 

[Quantrill]

I think you are a little confused, as usual.

The Constitution isn't about "slavery", it just didn't outlaw it like it probably should have. The Founders (many of whom were slave owners themselves) realized slavery was in moral opposition to a country built on "All Men are Created Equal", but hoped that it would wither and die like it was doing in the rest of the world.

And if Cotton hadn't turned into such a bonanza economically, it probably would have.

Not confused at all. Slavery was legal in the U.S. and protected by the Constitution.

The Declaration of Independence is not the Constitution.

If a frog had wings he wouldn't slap his butt every time he hopped. If, if, if....

Quantrill

 

[Unkotare]

Texas v White

^^^

 

[Quantrill]

Attacking Ft Sumter was not legal and was an act of war
The Confederacy was not invaded over slavery

You need to respond to post #(169).

Quantrill

 

[rightwinger]

Not at all. Slavery was legal and protected under the Constitution.

The Declaration of Independence is not the Constitution.

Quantrill

Slavery was legal and protected by the Constitution because Southern states insisted on it. The same states that left the Union
The US invaded the South to save the Union and because the Confederacy waged war against the US
They did not invade to end slavery

 

[Quantrill]

Slavery was legal and protected by the Constitution because Southern states insisted on it. The same states that left the Union
The US invaded the South to save the Union and because the Confederacy waged war against the US
They did not invade to end slavery

You need to answer my questions in post #(169).

Quantrill

 

[rightwinger]

You need to answer my questions in post #(169).

Quantrill

Public Knowledge

Google is your friend

 

[Quantrill]

Public Knowledge

Google is your friend

I did google it. Seems as though you are lying.

So, again, why would the blacks run to the North when they were not free in the North? They were only free in the South, so the Emancipation said.

You indicated it was illegal to teach slaves to read in the South. But that wasn't true everywhere. And the slave owners did teach many slaves to read.

So, you have been found to be both a liar and a traitor. How does it feel?

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

Slavery was legal and protected by the Constitution because Southern states insisted on it. The same states that left the Union
The US invaded the South to save the Union and because the Confederacy waged war against the US
They did not invade to end slavery

Well then, slavery was legal and protected by the Constitution. Which means the North was fighting against the Constitution. The South was not traitor to the Constitution. The North was.

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

Slavery was legal and protected by the Constitution because Southern states insisted on it. The same states that left the Union
The US invaded the South to save the Union and because the Confederacy waged war against the US
They did not invade to end slavery

How was the 'invasion' of the South going to save the Union?

Quantrill

 

[rightwinger]

How was the 'invasion' of the South going to save the Union?

Quantrill

It worked
Count those stars