The thread where I make Democrats angry- why we lost in 2024!

[OKTexas]

Since 99% of my posts make Republicans Angry, I thought I'd do a post where I antagonize Democrats with hard, cold truths. Because it seems to me most of the Democrat discussion is "We weren't radical enough!"

So here is my list, 11 reasons why Democrats got their asses handed to them in 2024.

1) Joe Biden – completely and utterly screwed his party. It should have been evident to everyone around him that, at 81, he didn’t have the acuity or stamina to wage a campaign against Trump. He maybe never did, but the unique nature of the 2020 election gave him a pass. In 2020, he promised to be a transitional president. A second term never should have been in the cards.

In any event, Biden should have withdrawn after the 2022 midterms, and the Democrats did better than they deserved to because Trump insisted on extreme MAGA candidates for winnable races. A vigorous primary campaign would have tempered the steel of the eventual nominee.


2) Kamala Harris – In one aspect, it’s easy to be sympathetic; she had to hop in and pick up a ball that had been fumbled. That said, she was a poor candidate. She was a weak candidate in 2020 when she dropped out before the primaries, and she did little to distinguish herself as Vice President. But the Democrats were painted into a corner. Passing over her to pick someone more electable would have been seen as an insult to women and minorities. Additionally, there was the issue of who could legally use the money that Biden had raised to that point.

Harris should have done a self-evaluation and realized that she probably wasn’t the best candidate. She didn’t. We got the result we should have expected.

3) Tim Walz- a lousy pick. He brought nothing to the table. Minnesota hasn’t gone Red since 1972. If the Democrats are seriously fighting for MN, they need to rethink their party. Shapiro, Warnock, anyone who could have helped in a Swing state would have been better.

4) The Corporate Media didn’t do its job- The Corporate Media has this weird symbiotic relationship with Trump. They know he’s repulsive, but he’s good for ratings. He’s reality TV incarnate, normalizing lousy behavior because it’s entertaining. Joe Biden could look a bit confused trying to find the exit, and you’d get speculation about his mental acuity. Trump could rant about Haitians eating cats and Arnold Palmer’s….er… attributes, and nope, nothing to see here.

5) Abortion wasn’t the magic bullet – The initial shock of Dobbs probably saved the Democrats from worse results in 2022, but it was a hand Harris overplayed. Most Americans are ambivalent about abortion. They don’t think it should be illegal, but they don’t like it much, either. Making it the centerpiece of your campaign was a bad idea.

6) Taking Asians and Hispanics for granted – This is the untold story of 2024. Trump didn’t improve his numbers with white voters. He lost a percentage point among them. He only slightly improved his standing with black voters. The two big groups that he gained were Hispanics (+14) and Asians (+6), despite the toxic and racist language coming from Trump on Immigration.

Part of the reason was that the Harris team took them for granted, whereas Trump made genuine outreach. The other part of the problem is that immigration is affecting these communities, and muddled messaging didn’t help.

7) Immigration – Immigration has become a significant crisis, which Biden and Harris did not effectively manage. Part of the problem is immigrants figured out the Asylum loophole and abused the heck out of it. The other part of the problem is that Biden did very little to discourage immigration. While they deported more people than Trump did during his first term, they didn’t like to talk about it because they thought it wouldn’t play well with the Hispanic Community.

8) It’s the economy, stupid. The Biden economy was pretty good. Record stock market growth, record job growth, and low unemployment. The fly in the ointment, of course, was high inflation, driven by global commodities, labor shortages, and, yes, the Trillions in Stimulus That both Trump and Biden pumped into the economy to keep it afloat during COVID-19. The problem was, the Democrats did a poor job talking up the good stuff, and really weren't proactive enough on inflation, other than "Just let the fed handle it by putting home prices out of reach".

9) Transgender rights - Failure to Communicate. Democrats let Republicans run the table with this one. Every time the Republicans dragged out some college girl whining how she didn’t get a trophy, the Democrats should have brought out a transgender girl who transphobic people have abused. They didn’t do this, and the GOP got away with dehumanization.

10) Not holding Trump to account for COVID (or anything else!) – It is MIND-BOGGLING to me how Democrats weren’t reminding people at every step about how Trump mismanaged the COVID crisis (and subsequent recession).

11) Israel and Palestine- trying to thread the needle. This is where they should have taken a stand. Instead, they tried to please both sides and ended up pleasing neither one. So now you have these Arab-Americans in Dearborn, MI, who stayed home. How are things better for you now? ,

You blew it on number 9, guys in women's sports, in women's locker and bathrooms will always be a loser. There is no good way to put lipstick on that pig.

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[yidnar]

Since 99% of my posts make Republicans Angry, I thought I'd do a post where I antagonize Democrats with hard, cold truths. Because it seems to me most of the Democrat discussion is "We weren't radical enough!"

So here is my list, 11 reasons why Democrats got their asses handed to them in 2024.

1) Joe Biden – completely and utterly screwed his party. It should have been evident to everyone around him that, at 81, he didn’t have the acuity or stamina to wage a campaign against Trump. He maybe never did, but the unique nature of the 2020 election gave him a pass. In 2020, he promised to be a transitional president. A second term never should have been in the cards.

In any event, Biden should have withdrawn after the 2022 midterms, and the Democrats did better than they deserved to because Trump insisted on extreme MAGA candidates for winnable races. A vigorous primary campaign would have tempered the steel of the eventual nominee.


2) Kamala Harris – In one aspect, it’s easy to be sympathetic; she had to hop in and pick up a ball that had been fumbled. That said, she was a poor candidate. She was a weak candidate in 2020 when she dropped out before the primaries, and she did little to distinguish herself as Vice President. But the Democrats were painted into a corner. Passing over her to pick someone more electable would have been seen as an insult to women and minorities. Additionally, there was the issue of who could legally use the money that Biden had raised to that point.

Harris should have done a self-evaluation and realized that she probably wasn’t the best candidate. She didn’t. We got the result we should have expected.

3) Tim Walz- a lousy pick. He brought nothing to the table. Minnesota hasn’t gone Red since 1972. If the Democrats are seriously fighting for MN, they need to rethink their party. Shapiro, Warnock, anyone who could have helped in a Swing state would have been better.

4) The Corporate Media didn’t do its job- The Corporate Media has this weird symbiotic relationship with Trump. They know he’s repulsive, but he’s good for ratings. He’s reality TV incarnate, normalizing lousy behavior because it’s entertaining. Joe Biden could look a bit confused trying to find the exit, and you’d get speculation about his mental acuity. Trump could rant about Haitians eating cats and Arnold Palmer’s….er… attributes, and nope, nothing to see here.

5) Abortion wasn’t the magic bullet – The initial shock of Dobbs probably saved the Democrats from worse results in 2022, but it was a hand Harris overplayed. Most Americans are ambivalent about abortion. They don’t think it should be illegal, but they don’t like it much, either. Making it the centerpiece of your campaign was a bad idea.

6) Taking Asians and Hispanics for granted – This is the untold story of 2024. Trump didn’t improve his numbers with white voters. He lost a percentage point among them. He only slightly improved his standing with black voters. The two big groups that he gained were Hispanics (+14) and Asians (+6), despite the toxic and racist language coming from Trump on Immigration.

Part of the reason was that the Harris team took them for granted, whereas Trump made genuine outreach. The other part of the problem is that immigration is affecting these communities, and muddled messaging didn’t help.

7) Immigration – Immigration has become a significant crisis, which Biden and Harris did not effectively manage. Part of the problem is immigrants figured out the Asylum loophole and abused the heck out of it. The other part of the problem is that Biden did very little to discourage immigration. While they deported more people than Trump did during his first term, they didn’t like to talk about it because they thought it wouldn’t play well with the Hispanic Community.

8) It’s the economy, stupid. The Biden economy was pretty good. Record stock market growth, record job growth, and low unemployment. The fly in the ointment, of course, was high inflation, driven by global commodities, labor shortages, and, yes, the Trillions in Stimulus That both Trump and Biden pumped into the economy to keep it afloat during COVID-19. The problem was, the Democrats did a poor job talking up the good stuff, and really weren't proactive enough on inflation, other than "Just let the fed handle it by putting home prices out of reach".

9) Transgender rights - Failure to Communicate. Democrats let Republicans run the table with this one. Every time the Republicans dragged out some college girl whining how she didn’t get a trophy, the Democrats should have brought out a transgender gir

l who transphobic people have abused. They didn’t do this, and the GOP got away with dehumanization.

10) Not holding Trump to account for COVID (or anything else!) – It is MIND-BOGGLING to me how Democrats weren’t reminding people at every step about how Trump mismanaged the COVID crisis (and subsequent recession).

11) Israel and Palestine- trying to thread the needle. This is where they should have taken a stand. Instead, they tried to please both sides and ended up pleasing neither one. So now you have these Arab-Americans in Dearborn, MI, who stayed home. How are things better for you now? ,

the corporate media was too easy on Trump ..
Briben presided over a good economy ..
didnt get the Tanns insanity messaged right eh ?
the guy responsible for Operation warp speed that developed a vaccine for a virus that leaked from one the labs of your communist benefactors is responsible for COVID ?
and Dems never wanted a secure border moron ! people would have flooded in under the Harris admin also !

 

[AZrailwhale]

the corporate media was to easy on Trump ..
Briben presided over a good economy ..
didnt get the Tanns insanity messaged right eh ?
the guy responsible for Operation warp speed that developed a vaccine for a virus that leaked from one the labs of your communist benefactors is responsible for COVID ?
and Dems never wanted a secure border moron ! people would have flooded in under the Harris admin also !

The “corporate media” was in the democrat’s pocket. They covered for Biden and Harris at every turn. Biden was never ft to be president and the media should have excoriated his basement campaign in 2020, not to mention the gaffes and lies that came out every time he opened his mouth.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

1) Joe Biden – completely and utterly screwed his party.

No, us MAGA were telling you for literally YEARS that he wasn't compos mentis - therefore uncapable of being leader of the free world.

Joe Scarborough even pointed it out during the 2019 primary.

Your side deliberately hid it.

Period, full stop.

So if there's a lesson you need to learn?

Stop being evil and dishonest.

2) Kamala Harris – In one aspect, it’s easy to be sympathetic; she had to hop in and pick up a ball that had been fumbled. That said, she was a poor candidate.

Yeah, which MAGA also told you.

She didn't even get to the first contest in Iowa during the primary.

Her entire candidacy was manufactured mainstream media bubblegum.

And not the tasty kind.

These profound "revelations" you keep having are old news to anyone even remotely capable of interpreting political realities.

Maybe the only lesson you need to learn is to start listening to your opponents, because we're a lot smarter than you think we are.

3) Tim Walz- a lousy pick. He brought nothing to the table.

Yes, we also told you this.

When you tried to say JD was the "abnormal" one, we guffawed as we pointed to this deranged Joker candidate you designated for the Veepee fall guy.

Are you sensing a theme yet?

4) The Corporate Media didn’t do its job-

Actually they did.

Their only job is to smear the Right and attempt to denigrate anything that manifests from it.

The problem is in our new social media ecosystem, its infrastructure is hopelessly out of date.

Kind of like your party.

Yeah, we tried to tell you that as well.

5) Abortion wasn’t the magic bullet –

Yeah, you guessed it.

Told ya so.

6) Taking Asians and Hispanics for granted –

Again, I could easily produce countless threads from this message board initiated by MAGA mad lads back in 2022/2023 that asserted just this.

BUT...YOU...DIDN'T.....LISTEN.

7) Immigration – Immigration has become a significant crisis

Yeah, we also told you this.

As a former Democrat myself, the moment every single candidate raised their hand in epic affirmation that all illegal immigrants should receive free healthcare in a 2019 primary debate - I WAS OUT.

But you mindless dipshits cared more about your team than actual independent thought.

So I guess you missed that.

Six fucking years ago.

8) It’s the economy, stupid.

We told you inflation was NOT transitory.

But, on theme, you called us misinformation.

OK, I think we all get the point.

So - again - as a FORMER DEMOCRAT, and on behalf of the SHIT-TON of us who walked away from your lunacy - take it from me:

The real problem with the Democrats, and what's left of their sad/pathetic rump of a base?

 

[jknowgood]

thats a good post joe....im sure people like IM2 will say you are just a white racist....

That's right, he didn't include a black transgender. Bastard!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No, us MAGA were telling you for literally YEARS that he wasn't compos mentis - therefore uncapable of being leader of the free world.

Joe Scarborough even pointed it out during the 2019 primary.

Your side deliberately hid it.

Period, full stop.

So if there's a lesson you need to learn?

Stop being evil and dishonest.



Yeah, which MAGA also told you.

She didn't even get to the first contest in Iowa during the primary.

Her entire candidacy was manufactured mainstream media bubblegum.

And not the tasty kind.

These profound "revelations" you keep having are old news to anyone even remotely capable of interpreting political realities.

Maybe the only lesson you need to learn is to start listening to your opponents, because we're a lot smarter than you think we are.



Yes, we also told you this.

When you tried to say JD was the "abnormal" one, we guffawed as we pointed to this deranged Joker candidate you designated for the Veepee fall guy.

Are you sensing a theme yet?



Actually they did.

Their only job is to smear the Right and attempt to denigrate anything that manifests from it.

The problem is in our new social media ecosystem, its infrastructure is hopelessly out of date.

Kind of like your party.

Yeah, we tried to tell you that as well.



Yeah, you guessed it.

Told ya so.



Again, I could easily produce countless threads from this message board initiated by MAGA mad lads back in 2022/2023 that asserted just this.

BUT...YOU...DIDN'T.....LISTEN.



Yeah, we also told you this.

As a former Democrat myself, the moment every single candidate raised their hand in epic affirmation that all illegal immigrants should receive free healthcare in a 2019 primary debate - I WAS OUT.

But you mindless dipshits cared more about your team than actual independent thought.

So I guess you missed that.

Six fucking years ago.



We told you inflation was NOT transitory.

But, on theme, you called us misinformation.

OK, I think we all get the point.

The real problem with the Democrats, and what's left of their sad/pathetic rump of a base?

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Thank you!

I thought the same but didn't think it was worth the effort to respond

He DEFENDED EVERYTHING WRONG on his list

 

[Sally_Sensation]

No, us MAGA were telling you for literally YEARS that he wasn't compos mentis - therefore uncapable of being leader of the free world.

Joe Scarborough even pointed it out during the 2019 primary.

Your side deliberately hid it.

Period, full stop.

So if there's a lesson you need to learn?

Stop being evil and dishonest.



Yeah, which MAGA also told you.

She didn't even get to the first contest in Iowa during the primary.

Her entire candidacy was manufactured mainstream media bubblegum.

And not the tasty kind.

These profound "revelations" you keep having are old news to anyone even remotely capable of interpreting political realities.

Maybe the only lesson you need to learn is to start listening to your opponents, because we're a lot smarter than you think we are.



Yes, we also told you this.

When you tried to say JD was the "abnormal" one, we guffawed as we pointed to this deranged Joker candidate you designated for the Veepee fall guy.

Are you sensing a theme yet?



Actually they did.

Their only job is to smear the Right and attempt to denigrate anything that manifests from it.

The problem is in our new social media ecosystem, its infrastructure is hopelessly out of date.

Kind of like your party.

Yeah, we tried to tell you that as well.



Yeah, you guessed it.

Told ya so.



Again, I could easily produce countless threads from this message board initiated by MAGA mad lads back in 2022/2023 that asserted just this.

BUT...YOU...DIDN'T.....LISTEN.



Yeah, we also told you this.

As a former Democrat myself, the moment every single candidate raised their hand in epic affirmation that all illegal immigrants should receive free healthcare in a 2019 primary debate - I WAS OUT.

But you mindless dipshits cared more about your team than actual independent thought.

So I guess you missed that.

Six fucking years ago.



We told you inflation was NOT transitory.

But, on theme, you called us misinformation.

OK, I think we all get the point.

So - again - as a FORMER DEMOCRAT, and on behalf of the SHIT-TON of us who walked away from your lunacy - take it from me:

The real problem with the Democrats, and what's left of their sad/pathetic rump of a base?

View attachment 1094938

Holy hell! That was absolutely brilliant.

 

[Lesh]

Since 99% of my posts make Republicans Angry, I thought I'd do a post where I antagonize Democrats with hard, cold truths. Because it seems to me most of the Democrat discussion is "We weren't radical enough!"

So here is my list, 11 reasons why Democrats got their asses handed to them in 2024.

1) Joe Biden – completely and utterly screwed his party. It should have been evident to everyone around him that, at 81, he didn’t have the acuity or stamina to wage a campaign against Trump. He maybe never did, but the unique nature of the 2020 election gave him a pass. In 2020, he promised to be a transitional president. A second term never should have been in the cards.

In any event, Biden should have withdrawn after the 2022 midterms, and the Democrats did better than they deserved to because Trump insisted on extreme MAGA candidates for winnable races. A vigorous primary campaign would have tempered the steel of the eventual nominee.


2) Kamala Harris – In one aspect, it’s easy to be sympathetic; she had to hop in and pick up a ball that had been fumbled. That said, she was a poor candidate. She was a weak candidate in 2020 when she dropped out before the primaries, and she did little to distinguish herself as Vice President. But the Democrats were painted into a corner. Passing over her to pick someone more electable would have been seen as an insult to women and minorities. Additionally, there was the issue of who could legally use the money that Biden had raised to that point.

Harris should have done a self-evaluation and realized that she probably wasn’t the best candidate. She didn’t. We got the result we should have expected.

3) Tim Walz- a lousy pick. He brought nothing to the table. Minnesota hasn’t gone Red since 1972. If the Democrats are seriously fighting for MN, they need to rethink their party. Shapiro, Warnock, anyone who could have helped in a Swing state would have been better.

4) The Corporate Media didn’t do its job- The Corporate Media has this weird symbiotic relationship with Trump. They know he’s repulsive, but he’s good for ratings. He’s reality TV incarnate, normalizing lousy behavior because it’s entertaining. Joe Biden could look a bit confused trying to find the exit, and you’d get speculation about his mental acuity. Trump could rant about Haitians eating cats and Arnold Palmer’s….er… attributes, and nope, nothing to see here.

5) Abortion wasn’t the magic bullet – The initial shock of Dobbs probably saved the Democrats from worse results in 2022, but it was a hand Harris overplayed. Most Americans are ambivalent about abortion. They don’t think it should be illegal, but they don’t like it much, either. Making it the centerpiece of your campaign was a bad idea.

6) Taking Asians and Hispanics for granted – This is the untold story of 2024. Trump didn’t improve his numbers with white voters. He lost a percentage point among them. He only slightly improved his standing with black voters. The two big groups that he gained were Hispanics (+14) and Asians (+6), despite the toxic and racist language coming from Trump on Immigration.

Part of the reason was that the Harris team took them for granted, whereas Trump made genuine outreach. The other part of the problem is that immigration is affecting these communities, and muddled messaging didn’t help.

7) Immigration – Immigration has become a significant crisis, which Biden and Harris did not effectively manage. Part of the problem is immigrants figured out the Asylum loophole and abused the heck out of it. The other part of the problem is that Biden did very little to discourage immigration. While they deported more people than Trump did during his first term, they didn’t like to talk about it because they thought it wouldn’t play well with the Hispanic Community.

8) It’s the economy, stupid. The Biden economy was pretty good. Record stock market growth, record job growth, and low unemployment. The fly in the ointment, of course, was high inflation, driven by global commodities, labor shortages, and, yes, the Trillions in Stimulus That both Trump and Biden pumped into the economy to keep it afloat during COVID-19. The problem was, the Democrats did a poor job talking up the good stuff, and really weren't proactive enough on inflation, other than "Just let the fed handle it by putting home prices out of reach".

9) Transgender rights - Failure to Communicate. Democrats let Republicans run the table with this one. Every time the Republicans dragged out some college girl whining how she didn’t get a trophy, the Democrats should have brought out a transgender girl who transphobic people have abused. They didn’t do this, and the GOP got away with dehumanization.

10) Not holding Trump to account for COVID (or anything else!) – It is MIND-BOGGLING to me how Democrats weren’t reminding people at every step about how Trump mismanaged the COVID crisis (and subsequent recession).

11) Israel and Palestine- trying to thread the needle. This is where they should have taken a stand. Instead, they tried to please both sides and ended up pleasing neither one. So now you have these Arab-Americans in Dearborn, MI, who stayed home. How are things better for you now? ,

1. Absolutely right. Biden screwed the pooch

2. Harris fine and there as no alternative

3. Yup

4. Yup

5. Women dropped the ball. No idea why but they certainly did

6. Puerto Ricsns certainly screwed up. They ten to be heavy on he machismo and also antiabortion . You claim Harris didn’t have enough outreach to Asians? Maybe. She had one hundred days. Tough to cover all the bases on 100 days

7. Immigration is not a crisis its propaganda tool. Republicans are good at propaganda
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8. Inflation haven tamed. The messaging was the problem and that is again on Biden’s

9. There has to w a better way to deal with the trans issue. Republicans suck and used it cynically

10. Can’t disagree. Biden was just happy to get us out of Covid. He needed to toot his own horn more.

11. Palestine was a no win. There was no needle to thread.

Did you piss me off? Nope

Bottom line there were two problems.

Biden staying on the race and messaging

Either one done correctly and we don’t have Trump fucking things up

 

[Kruska]

Since 99% of my posts make Republicans Angry, I thought I'd do a post where I antagonize Democrats with hard, cold truths. Because it seems to me most of the Democrat discussion is "We weren't radical enough!"

So here is my list, 11 reasons why Democrats got their asses handed to them in 2024.

1) Joe Biden – completely and utterly screwed his party. It should have been evident to everyone around him that, at 81, he didn’t have the acuity or stamina to wage a campaign against Trump. He maybe never did, but the unique nature of the 2020 election gave him a pass. In 2020, he promised to be a transitional president. A second term never should have been in the cards.

In any event, Biden should have withdrawn after the 2022 midterms, and the Democrats did better than they deserved to because Trump insisted on extreme MAGA candidates for winnable races. A vigorous primary campaign would have tempered the steel of the eventual nominee.


2) Kamala Harris – In one aspect, it’s easy to be sympathetic; she had to hop in and pick up a ball that had been fumbled. That said, she was a poor candidate. She was a weak candidate in 2020 when she dropped out before the primaries, and she did little to distinguish herself as Vice President. But the Democrats were painted into a corner. Passing over her to pick someone more electable would have been seen as an insult to women and minorities. Additionally, there was the issue of who could legally use the money that Biden had raised to that point.

Harris should have done a self-evaluation and realized that she probably wasn’t the best candidate. She didn’t. We got the result we should have expected.

3) Tim Walz- a lousy pick. He brought nothing to the table. Minnesota hasn’t gone Red since 1972. If the Democrats are seriously fighting for MN, they need to rethink their party. Shapiro, Warnock, anyone who could have helped in a Swing state would have been better.

4) The Corporate Media didn’t do its job- The Corporate Media has this weird symbiotic relationship with Trump. They know he’s repulsive, but he’s good for ratings. He’s reality TV incarnate, normalizing lousy behavior because it’s entertaining. Joe Biden could look a bit confused trying to find the exit, and you’d get speculation about his mental acuity. Trump could rant about Haitians eating cats and Arnold Palmer’s….er… attributes, and nope, nothing to see here.

5) Abortion wasn’t the magic bullet – The initial shock of Dobbs probably saved the Democrats from worse results in 2022, but it was a hand Harris overplayed. Most Americans are ambivalent about abortion. They don’t think it should be illegal, but they don’t like it much, either. Making it the centerpiece of your campaign was a bad idea.

6) Taking Asians and Hispanics for granted – This is the untold story of 2024. Trump didn’t improve his numbers with white voters. He lost a percentage point among them. He only slightly improved his standing with black voters. The two big groups that he gained were Hispanics (+14) and Asians (+6), despite the toxic and racist language coming from Trump on Immigration.

Part of the reason was that the Harris team took them for granted, whereas Trump made genuine outreach. The other part of the problem is that immigration is affecting these communities, and muddled messaging didn’t help.

7) Immigration – Immigration has become a significant crisis, which Biden and Harris did not effectively manage. Part of the problem is immigrants figured out the Asylum loophole and abused the heck out of it. The other part of the problem is that Biden did very little to discourage immigration. While they deported more people than Trump did during his first term, they didn’t like to talk about it because they thought it wouldn’t play well with the Hispanic Community.

8) It’s the economy, stupid. The Biden economy was pretty good. Record stock market growth, record job growth, and low unemployment. The fly in the ointment, of course, was high inflation, driven by global commodities, labor shortages, and, yes, the Trillions in Stimulus That both Trump and Biden pumped into the economy to keep it afloat during COVID-19. The problem was, the Democrats did a poor job talking up the good stuff, and really weren't proactive enough on inflation, other than "Just let the fed handle it by putting home prices out of reach".

9) Transgender rights - Failure to Communicate. Democrats let Republicans run the table with this one. Every time the Republicans dragged out some college girl whining how she didn’t get a trophy, the Democrats should have brought out a transgender girl who transphobic people have abused. They didn’t do this, and the GOP got away with dehumanization.

10) Not holding Trump to account for COVID (or anything else!) – It is MIND-BOGGLING to me how Democrats weren’t reminding people at every step about how Trump mismanaged the COVID crisis (and subsequent recession).

11) Israel and Palestine- trying to thread the needle. This is where they should have taken a stand. Instead, they tried to please both sides and ended up pleasing neither one. So now you have these Arab-Americans in Dearborn, MI, who stayed home. How are things better for you now? ,

In principle I agree to all these points/issues.

But what cost the Democrats the election in November was simply and only Trumps rhetoric echoing fully in MAGA ears - MIGRATION & Gender-ism.
The economy was good - and even better then under Trump's first stint. Democrats simply wanted to deflect from not having taken Immigration and Gender-ism serious - thus coming up themselves with this bull about the "promises of lowering prices" having been a major effect onto the election. = aka economics.

This is absolutely false, and can be observed daily when MAGA's defend their wannabe Dictator - being totally ignorant and couldn't care less about prices or living standards - it's just a side show, to deflect from racism and a conservative/religious mindset.

As I has stated much earlier on: the American citizen on average is way more religiously/conservative and racist then a European - and even in Europe the only drumming aspect for elections is MIGRANTS and in a far behind 2nd place - Gender-ism.
Migrants are then used to cover/explain for everything in regards to the economy, security and whatever.

So latent racism in conjunction with a conservative religious mindset and Making America the navel of the world - is all that Trump propagated - due to simply having listened to the American average citizen and constantly dripping oil onto those flames via all kinds of erratic claims pertaining solely to these issues.

The Democrats totally failed in regards to "explaining" and "convincing" the average American, that MIGRATION was NEVER a threat for the USA, whilst additionally screwing up on "preventing" criminal migrants - aka "unwanted" migrants from entering the USA. - factually not even having such a "selection-process" at hand. - just as e.g. Germany.

With choosing a candidate such as Harris - only propagating abortion and gender-ism, it was understood (at least to me) that Trump will win that election - I had even expected a higher win by Trump in regards to the popular vote.

Newsom/California is one of those Democrats who has clearly understood that Lefty/woke politics are simply not accepted by the majority of Americans - and is therefore paddling (trying to paddle) it back. The % of conservative/religious Americans very likely outnumbers, those pure MAGA morons (USA,USA,USA) - and getting them into the fold is therefore vital to winning the midterm elections. Since till then the Migrant issue has been taken care off by Trump - or at least to such an extend that it isn't a major concern anymore to the average US citizen. Should Trump fail - well even better for the Democrats.

However due to Trumps idiotic, erratic and self-enriching economic policies, the USA is going to hit rock bottom on behalf of it's economy. So take away (significantly reduce) the woke-policy and the majority of Americans will flock to the Democrats - simply because they will realize that the Democrats are a far better guarantor for the US economy and will thus reduce the income gap and social discrepancies , that under Trump and his billionaire pals will become horrendous.

And off-course no one knows to what extend (war?) Trump and his cabinet clowns will take the USA in regards to China and Iran. And even Russia, - once Trump realizes that his envisioned "deals" with Putin ain't gonna happen.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Orangecat]

Only you know that question.

No, he knows the answer. Damn, you’re dull.

 

[Votto]

I think Harris was a poor candidate.

But one of the problems in American Politics is that since the 22nd Amendment, the Vice-President becomes the "Heir-apparent".
Nixon (Twice), Humphrey, Mondale, Bush, Gore, Biden, and Harris. 8 Nominatons, but only 3 wins.

When did you become a racist and start hating women?

 

[gipper]

Some good points Joey, but I must point out problems with your argument.

1. Joe Biden has always sucked. Thinking he was a good candidate for potus EVER, is dumb. In 1988 when he was caught lying and plagiarizing then forced to drop out, should have ended his political career. Amazed me the cocksucker gets reelected over and over, then VP, and then potus. WTF!
2. Bernie won the nomination in 2016 and 2020, if not for corrupt actions by your party’s leadership.
3. Kamala was given the nomination. She didn’t earn it. She was awful from day one and dumb Joe picked her only because she’s black and a woman. Great accomplishments.
4. Your party’s leadership knew full well Genocide Joe was a demented fucker, yet they played along until it was too late for voters to choose. Then appointed K. Corruption!!!!
5. Now it’s time to eliminate the D Party altogether. They are a corrupt criminal operation, much like the R Party.

 

[BluesLegend]

I think Harris was a poor candidate.

She's a BLITHERING IDIOT, chosen by a BLITHERING IDIOT. I respect intelligence whether it's left, right or centrist. This recent string of losers from the Democrats has me wondering where the smart Dems are hiding. Shockingly, some of the smartest Dems bailed and left the party, some went so far as to join team Trump. That two of Dems leading presidential candidates joined Trump's team and campaigned against the Dems is stunning.

 

[BluesLegend]

But what cost the Democrats the election in November was simply and only Trumps rhetoric echoing fully in MAGA ears - MIGRATION & Gender-ism.

You are in denial like so many Dems. Dems will go right on losing until that changes.

 

[Votto]

You blew it on number 9, guys in women's sports, in women's locker and bathrooms will always be a loser. There is no good way to put lipstick on that pig.

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I can't tell you how many democrats have told me they don't agree with this, yet the DNC doubles down on it

But really, the two kickers were the economy and Joes dementia. Although the OP admits that the dementia was a major problem, he still lies to himself about the impact of inflation during the Biden administration, still refusing to admit to the seriousness of the problem. Inflation is the cruelest tax of them all, and it hits everyone. Democrats also fail to blame their reactions to Covid driving most of the inflation to come later.

No one blames Joe for his dementia, other than democrats secretly blaming him. No, the blame goes to all the top ranking democrats around Joe that pretended he was Ok, along with Legacy media that pretended he was OK. But once on the debate stage saying you will declare war on Medicare, for the first time in US political history, no one buys into the lies.

This then taps into a bigger scandal within the DNC, something that Joe cannot be blamed for, and that is, how can you remove a President that has been duly elected by the people to run again, only to have a coup take you down and replace you for the nominee, but still leave you in power? Do they not care about democracy, and/or, do they not care that he is not to the task which may be detrimental to the nation?

To me, it was unforgiveable. If you are going to sit on the pot, use it or get off. This was just half assed.

 

[Luckyone]

As Woody Allen once said, 90% of success is just showing up. Biden wasn't showing up for 2024.

It wasn't as bad as Republicans say. He did show up but not every time.

Okay, let's do some speculation. Biden announces in 2022 he won't seek a second term, and specifically cites the demands of the job on a man his age. Since Trump is just as old (if he makes it the full four years, he'll be our oldest President) this makes it a valid issue.

He wasn't in bad shape in 2022

Now, yes, a primary race is always a risk, but it frequently makes a candidate stronger. Look how much Obama was boosted by his campaign fight against Hillary.

Obama was "always" a viable and attractive candidate. No such person is around now and much less in 2022

Probably. Now here's the gut-check for Democrats. Do they let her run again in 2028, or do they say, "We really need to go with someone who can win."

She will not be a candidate for 2028

What "ideal" are we talking about here? The right to use abortion as birth control? I get very frustrated with both sides in the abortion debate, because I think both sides are fairly dishonest. The Pro-Choice people just can't stop talking about rape and incest (which are rare) and the Pro-Life side can't stop talking about "Late Term" abortions, which are also rare.

I think abortion should be legal because outlawing it would be impractical (think Prohibition), but it's hardly something to be celebrated.

A woman's right to her own body should be honored

 

[Lesh]

Some good points Joey, but I must point out problems with your argument.

1. Joe Biden has always sucked. Thinking he was a good candidate for potus EVER, is dumb. In 1988 when he was caught lying and plagiarizing then forced to drop out, should have ended his political career. Amazed me the cocksucker gets reelected over and over, then VP, and then potus. WTF!
2. Bernie won the nomination in 2016 and 2020, if not for corrupt actions by your party’s leadership.
3. Kamala was given the nomination. She didn’t earn it. She was awful from day one and dumb Joe picked her only because she’s black and a woman. Great accomplishments.
4. Your party’s leadership knew full well Genocide Joe was a demented fucker, yet they played along until it was too late for voters to choose. Then appointed K. Corruption!!!!
5. Now it’s time to eliminate the D Party altogether. They are a corrupt criminal operation, much like the R Party.

I seem to remember trumper/Republicans wringing their hands about why they claimed was “one party rule” (which was not happening ) not so long ago.

Remember folks

Every accusation by these people is an admission

 

[Harry Dresden]

I seem to remember trumper/Republicans wringing their hands about why they claimed was “one party rule” (which was not happening ) not so long ago.

Remember folks

Every accusation by these people is an admission

they say the same shit about you and your party lesh....

 

[Lesh]

they say the same shit about you and your party lesh....

“They” say a lot of shit. Most of it bullshit

Again, every accusation by them is an admission

 

[JoeB131]

You blew it on number 9, guys in women's sports, in women's locker and bathrooms will always be a loser. There is no good way to put lipstick on that pig.

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Only if you are denying the basic humanity of trans people.