The Talmud will save Judaism

[Sidekick]

Talmud is the corruption of original Judaism which had no such text. The call for an Oral Torah was just that. An oral/verbal version. Lest what worked or had an application for one group of Jews somewhere came to bind all Jews everywhere as Talmud did. Once you write something down that's authoritative it can' tbe changed. That's why the Oral Torah was to remain a verbal version so disparate groups of Jews could have their own versions with no one version coming to hold sway over the entire world.

Who gave Talmudic Jews this authority? Wasn't God. Was the rabbis themselves. They gave themselves the authority so consider the source.

Jesus's biggest beef with the Rabbi's of his time was their teaching that the Oral Torah trumped the original Torah handed down to Moses. .....

Jesus was most upset with the 'money changers', basically they acquiesce to the imperialists, not understanding the greater significance of the temple for the people. He knew it would be destroyed and what that would do to their way of life.

Talmud is the corruption of original Judaism which had no such text. The call for an Oral Torah was just that. An oral/verbal version. Lest what worked or had an application for one group of Jews somewhere came to bind all Jews everywhere as Talmud did. Once you write something down that's authoritative it can' tbe changed. That's why the Oral Torah was to remain a verbal version so disparate groups of Jews could have their own versions with no one version coming to hold sway over the entire world.

Who gave Talmudic Jews this authority? Wasn't God. Was the rabbis themselves. They gave themselves the authority so consider the source.

Jesus's biggest beef with the Rabbi's of his time was their teaching that the Oral Torah trumped the original Torah handed down to Moses. .....

actually----sunni Habibi----like Penelope, you never read the book. Jesus had no such "beef" He was-----in fact-------a TALMUDIST -------he----very much favored ---based on the statements that seem most reliably attributed to him in the NT-------the logic and law as it was expounded upon in the Talmud----------gee you are dim. Jesus quoted both the TALMUD and its most impressive scholar of his time----HILLEL ----
incessantly

Heck if he was, he was against the traditions of the elders.

No, he was a prophet looking into their future and trying to teach them a way to adapt. The temple was the center of their world, soon it would be gone, and then what?

 

[Penelope]

The Talmud will save Judaism

Given this set of predicaments, is a Jewish renewal possible in the 21st century? We believe it is. The secret to this renewal lies in understanding that the genius of Judaism resides in its Talmudic tradition.

The lyricism of the Koran is unsurpassed and the New Testament's teachings on universal love and brotherhood are more progressive than many a passage of Leviticus. Thus, emphasizing the Bible as the starting point to appreciating Judaism is a losing proposition. However, as anyone who has studied in a yeshiva knows well, the Bible is not the cornerstone of traditional Judaism. The Talmud is the key to appreciating Judaism.

Secularized Jews must be exposed to the depth and beauty of rabbinical literature in order to be captivated by their faith. For this approach to succeed, rabbis should start to deemphasize the divine origin of the Bible as a principle of faith. It is the Talmud whose quest deserves reverence as divinely inspired.


The sooner the Jewish and rabbinical establishments understand that teaching the Talmud is the key to Jewish continuity, the more successful are efforts to draw Jews back to Judaism bound to be. The Talmud may no longer shield Jews from assimilation thanks to its social and dietary restrictions. However it can disabuse many young Jews from the prejudice that Judaism is anachronistic. If anything, the Talmud was and remains well ahead of its times.

The Talmud will save Judaism - Israel Jewish Scene Ynetnews

It would be wise to look up the terms anachronistic and (lyricism of the Koran is unsurpassed)
and lyricism.

The writer here is saying, the OT is and has become obsolete, the Talmud is for today. Even the Quran and NT is better than the Torah.

Not the coming Musllim Holocaust is what will save the WORLD. When there isn't a safe place on the planet for the cult members to hide. Then the Jews will be save!

Didn't work as planned in Arizona did it. You Talmudist are worst than Muslims ever dreamed of.

what did not work in Arizona? what do you imagine was "PLANNED" Penelope? You make a fool of yourself by claiming you know something was "planned"_-----it is obvious you will be able to support your silly assertion What makes you think that the activity in Arizona planned by Pam Geller has anything to do with the Talmud?

Yes so she says, but she started it and is still at her racist hatred ranting.

 

[irosie91]

The attack on the money changers in the temple court yard is actually COMPELLING PROOF that Jesus was a Pharisee I grew up among somewhat Nazi Christians It was clear to me that they tended to believe that the money changers and the priests of the temple were Pharisee "rabbis" If I, like pee

The Talmud will save Judaism

Given this set of predicaments, is a Jewish renewal possible in the 21st century? We believe it is. The secret to this renewal lies in understanding that the genius of Judaism resides in its Talmudic tradition.

The lyricism of the Koran is unsurpassed and the New Testament's teachings on universal love and brotherhood are more progressive than many a passage of Leviticus. Thus, emphasizing the Bible as the starting point to appreciating Judaism is a losing proposition. However, as anyone who has studied in a yeshiva knows well, the Bible is not the cornerstone of traditional Judaism. The Talmud is the key to appreciating Judaism.

Secularized Jews must be exposed to the depth and beauty of rabbinical literature in order to be captivated by their faith. For this approach to succeed, rabbis should start to deemphasize the divine origin of the Bible as a principle of faith. It is the Talmud whose quest deserves reverence as divinely inspired.


The sooner the Jewish and rabbinical establishments understand that teaching the Talmud is the key to Jewish continuity, the more successful are efforts to draw Jews back to Judaism bound to be. The Talmud may no longer shield Jews from assimilation thanks to its social and dietary restrictions. However it can disabuse many young Jews from the prejudice that Judaism is anachronistic. If anything, the Talmud was and remains well ahead of its times.

The Talmud will save Judaism - Israel Jewish Scene Ynetnews

It would be wise to look up the terms anachronistic and (lyricism of the Koran is unsurpassed)
and lyricism.

The writer here is saying, the OT is and has become obsolete, the Talmud is for today. Even the Quran and NT is better than the Torah.

Not the coming Musllim Holocaust is what will save the WORLD. When there isn't a safe place on the planet for the cult members to hide. Then the Jews will be save!

Didn't work as planned in Arizona did it. You Talmudist are worst than Muslims ever dreamed of.

what did not work in Arizona? what do you imagine was "PLANNED" Penelope? You make a fool of yourself by claiming you know something was "planned"_-----it is obvious you will be able to support your silly assertion What makes you think that the activity in Arizona planned by Pam Geller has anything to do with the Talmud?

Yes so she says, but she started it and is still at her racist hatred ranting.

who? your comments are utterly pointless. To what does "so she says..." refer ??? "she started it..." who and what did that who 'start'??? what "racist hatred ranting"? and------btw-----which volumes of the Talmud did you read? they each are TITLED or----was that claim just another of your lies?

 

[Penelope]

Talmud is the corruption of original Judaism which had no such text. The call for an Oral Torah was just that. An oral/verbal version. Lest what worked or had an application for one group of Jews somewhere came to bind all Jews everywhere as Talmud did. Once you write something down that's authoritative it can' tbe changed. That's why the Oral Torah was to remain a verbal version so disparate groups of Jews could have their own versions with no one version coming to hold sway over the entire world.

Who gave Talmudic Jews this authority? Wasn't God. Was the rabbis themselves. They gave themselves the authority so consider the source.

Jesus's biggest beef with the Rabbi's of his time was their teaching that the Oral Torah trumped the original Torah handed down to Moses. .....

Jesus was most upset with the 'money changers', basically they acquiesce to the imperialists, not understanding the greater significance of the temple for the people. He knew it would be destroyed and what that would do to their way of life.

Talmud is the corruption of original Judaism which had no such text. The call for an Oral Torah was just that. An oral/verbal version. Lest what worked or had an application for one group of Jews somewhere came to bind all Jews everywhere as Talmud did. Once you write something down that's authoritative it can' tbe changed. That's why the Oral Torah was to remain a verbal version so disparate groups of Jews could have their own versions with no one version coming to hold sway over the entire world.

Who gave Talmudic Jews this authority? Wasn't God. Was the rabbis themselves. They gave themselves the authority so consider the source.

Jesus's biggest beef with the Rabbi's of his time was their teaching that the Oral Torah trumped the original Torah handed down to Moses. .....

actually----sunni Habibi----like Penelope, you never read the book. Jesus had no such "beef" He was-----in fact-------a TALMUDIST -------he----very much favored ---based on the statements that seem most reliably attributed to him in the NT-------the logic and law as it was expounded upon in the Talmud----------gee you are dim. Jesus quoted both the TALMUD and its most impressive scholar of his time----HILLEL ----
incessantly

Heck if he was, he was against the traditions of the elders.

No, he was a prophet looking into their future and trying to teach them a way to adapt. The temple was the center of their world, soon it would be gone, and then what?

Sure he was upset with the money changers but mostly with the Pharisees. Of course he knew the temple would be destroyed, not because he could see in the future, but because Rome was getting sick of rebellious jewish groups. Read about the kitos war.

 

[Penelope]

The attack on the money changers in the temple court yard is actually COMPELLING PROOF that Jesus was a Pharisee I grew up among somewhat Nazi Christians It was clear to me that they tended to believe that the money changers and the priests of the temple were Pharisee "rabbis" If I, like pee

The Talmud will save Judaism

Given this set of predicaments, is a Jewish renewal possible in the 21st century? We believe it is. The secret to this renewal lies in understanding that the genius of Judaism resides in its Talmudic tradition.

The lyricism of the Koran is unsurpassed and the New Testament's teachings on universal love and brotherhood are more progressive than many a passage of Leviticus. Thus, emphasizing the Bible as the starting point to appreciating Judaism is a losing proposition. However, as anyone who has studied in a yeshiva knows well, the Bible is not the cornerstone of traditional Judaism. The Talmud is the key to appreciating Judaism.

Secularized Jews must be exposed to the depth and beauty of rabbinical literature in order to be captivated by their faith. For this approach to succeed, rabbis should start to deemphasize the divine origin of the Bible as a principle of faith. It is the Talmud whose quest deserves reverence as divinely inspired.


The sooner the Jewish and rabbinical establishments understand that teaching the Talmud is the key to Jewish continuity, the more successful are efforts to draw Jews back to Judaism bound to be. The Talmud may no longer shield Jews from assimilation thanks to its social and dietary restrictions. However it can disabuse many young Jews from the prejudice that Judaism is anachronistic. If anything, the Talmud was and remains well ahead of its times.

The Talmud will save Judaism - Israel Jewish Scene Ynetnews

It would be wise to look up the terms anachronistic and (lyricism of the Koran is unsurpassed)
and lyricism.

The writer here is saying, the OT is and has become obsolete, the Talmud is for today. Even the Quran and NT is better than the Torah.

Not the coming Musllim Holocaust is what will save the WORLD. When there isn't a safe place on the planet for the cult members to hide. Then the Jews will be save!

Didn't work as planned in Arizona did it. You Talmudist are worst than Muslims ever dreamed of.

what did not work in Arizona? what do you imagine was "PLANNED" Penelope? You make a fool of yourself by claiming you know something was "planned"_-----it is obvious you will be able to support your silly assertion What makes you think that the activity in Arizona planned by Pam Geller has anything to do with the Talmud?

Yes so she says, but she started it and is still at her racist hatred ranting.

who? your comments are utterly pointless. To what does "so she says..." refer ??? "she started it..." who and what did that who 'start'??? what "racist hatred ranting"? and------btw-----which volumes of the Talmud did you read? they each are TITLED or----was that claim just another of your lies?

He was not a Pharisee. Most of the time I don't think he was even a Torah jew. He stopped them from stoning the woman, that the Pharisees so look forward to, and he also healed gentiles(the dogs) , and he also was against adultery, which I guess Jews still practiced polygamy until around 1000 AD right?

 

[irosie91]

Talmud is the corruption of original Judaism which had no such text. The call for an Oral Torah was just that. An oral/verbal version. Lest what worked or had an application for one group of Jews somewhere came to bind all Jews everywhere as Talmud did. Once you write something down that's authoritative it can' tbe changed. That's why the Oral Torah was to remain a verbal version so disparate groups of Jews could have their own versions with no one version coming to hold sway over the entire world.

Who gave Talmudic Jews this authority? Wasn't God. Was the rabbis themselves. They gave themselves the authority so consider the source.

Jesus's biggest beef with the Rabbi's of his time was their teaching that the Oral Torah trumped the original Torah handed down to Moses. .....

Jesus was most upset with the 'money changers', basically they acquiesce to the imperialists, not understanding the greater significance of the temple for the people. He knew it would be destroyed and what that would do to their way of life.

Talmud is the corruption of original Judaism which had no such text. The call for an Oral Torah was just that. An oral/verbal version. Lest what worked or had an application for one group of Jews somewhere came to bind all Jews everywhere as Talmud did. Once you write something down that's authoritative it can' tbe changed. That's why the Oral Torah was to remain a verbal version so disparate groups of Jews could have their own versions with no one version coming to hold sway over the entire world.

Who gave Talmudic Jews this authority? Wasn't God. Was the rabbis themselves. They gave themselves the authority so consider the source.

Jesus's biggest beef with the Rabbi's of his time was their teaching that the Oral Torah trumped the original Torah handed down to Moses. .....

actually----sunni Habibi----like Penelope, you never read the book. Jesus had no such "beef" He was-----in fact-------a TALMUDIST -------he----very much favored ---based on the statements that seem most reliably attributed to him in the NT-------the logic and law as it was expounded upon in the Talmud----------gee you are dim. Jesus quoted both the TALMUD and its most impressive scholar of his time----HILLEL ----
incessantly

Heck if he was, he was against the traditions of the elders.

No, he was a prophet looking into their future and trying to teach them a way to adapt. The temple was the center of their world, soon it would be gone, and then what?

Sure he was upset with the money changers but mostly with the Pharisees. Of course he knew the temple would be destroyed, not because he could see in the future, but because Rome was getting sick of rebellious jewish groups. Read about the kitos war.

Oh gee-----Penelope picked up another blob of shit from the islamo Nazi propaganda-----the wars to which she refers happened long after the romans murdered jesus. For those who do not know------the people who LIKED the money changers were the romans------the people who hated them and were the only people who would take action against them were the PHARISEES-----like Jesus and his Pharisee buddies. The biggest problem that islamo Nazis face is that jews were literate back then and still are

 

[Penelope]

Calling names, doesn't work with me. The Pharisees and the Scribes handed him over to the Romans to be put to death, face facts, he was a threat to them, and oh the Pharisees loved their power.

 

[irosie91]

The attack on the money changers in the temple court yard is actually COMPELLING PROOF that Jesus was a Pharisee I grew up among somewhat Nazi Christians It was clear to me that they tended to believe that the money changers and the priests of the temple were Pharisee "rabbis" If I, like pee

Not the coming Musllim Holocaust is what will save the WORLD. When there isn't a safe place on the planet for the cult members to hide. Then the Jews will be save!

Didn't work as planned in Arizona did it. You Talmudist are worst than Muslims ever dreamed of.

what did not work in Arizona? what do you imagine was "PLANNED" Penelope? You make a fool of yourself by claiming you know something was "planned"_-----it is obvious you will be able to support your silly assertion What makes you think that the activity in Arizona planned by Pam Geller has anything to do with the Talmud?

Yes so she says, but she started it and is still at her racist hatred ranting.

who? your comments are utterly pointless. To what does "so she says..." refer ??? "she started it..." who and what did that who 'start'??? what "racist hatred ranting"? and------btw-----which volumes of the Talmud did you read? they each are TITLED or----was that claim just another of your lies?

He was not a Pharisee. Most of the time I don't think he was even a Torah jew. He stopped them from stoning the woman, that the Pharisees so look forward to, and he also healed gentiles(the dogs) , and he also was against adultery, which I guess Jews still practiced polygamy until around 1000 AD right?

wrong on all counts. NOT STONING an adulteress was very much a Pharisee POV. There is no proscription amongst jews on healing gentiles ----in fact there are examples in the literature of such actions by big shots-----(some guy healed a gentile prince of some sort of skin disease) Being against adultery is contrary to torah law? sheeeesh Penelope ----another book you never read. by the time of Jesus ----the standard Pharisee stance rejected polygamy by RABBINICAL EDICT-----I kinda have a vague memory that the edict was made by some guy named rabbi gershon (don't quote me). Rule by rabbinical edict (ie interpretation) is very Talmudic and---even PHARISEE (the same rabbi issued a firm rule making it illegal to read other people's mail-----the standard joke about that is that he had two wives and they read each other's mail including his love letters to this one and that one--------in the end he outlawed two wives and reading other people's mail

 

[Penelope]

Matthew 6:5-15New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)

Teaching About Prayer. 5 “When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, who love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on street corners so that others may see them. Amen, I say to you, they have received their reward. 6 But when you pray, go to your inner room, close the door, and pray to your Father in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will repay you. 7 a]' data-fn="#fen-NABRE-27609a">[a]In praying, do not babble like the pagans, who think that they will be heard because of their many words.b]' data-fn="#fen-NABRE-27609b">[b] 8 Do not be like them. Your Father knows what you need before you ask him.


Also Jesus said not to pray like the Pharisees.

 

[irosie91]

Calling names, doesn't work with me. The Pharisees and the Scribes handed him over to the Romans to be put to death, face facts, he was a threat to them, and oh the Pharisees loved their power.

try again, Penelope-----the Pharisees had no power-------the only people who had any power other than romans were their shills----the SADDUCEES -------it was the sadducees who were peripherally involved ------it any jews at all Learn some history------try reading the New Testament Jesus ended up buried in the family tomb of a prominent PHARISEE------the Pharisees were his only friends -----

 

[irosie91]

No one knows who matthew was------but he was described as being a "tax collector" ------as such he would not have been a Pharisee himself----but a ROMAN SHILL-------the romans hated the Pharisees because they rebelled against roman oppression. As a tax collector it would have been virtually impossible for matthew to be part of the inner circle of Jesus The clues to the reality of the New Testament are IN THE BOOK ITSELF No doubt the roman emperor, CONSTANTINE liked whatever it is that matthew is purported to have written. I am not entirely sure that there was a real matthew-------that he is presented as a tax collector is FASCINATING----as if someone is trying to white wash the hated "tax collectors"

 

[Penelope]

Calling names, doesn't work with me. The Pharisees and the Scribes handed him over to the Romans to be put to death, face facts, he was a threat to them, and oh the Pharisees loved their power.

try again, Penelope-----the Pharisees had no power-------the only people who had any power other than romans were their shills----the SADDUCEES -------it was the sadducees who were peripherally involved ------it any jews at all Learn some history------try reading the New Testament Jesus ended up buried in the family tomb of a prominent PHARISEE------the Pharisees were his only friends -----

The Pharisees were the Rabbinical Jews. They sat in the seat of Moses, Spritiual leaders , your right they had no judicial rights, that was reserved for the Sanhedrin of who the leader was called the Nasi. In 30AD Rome took the right of capital punishment away from the Sanhedrin, thus the Romans had to kill Jesus, because the head jews wanted Rome to, and Rome did to appease them. (remember they got to pick between Barnabas and Jesus, and the people (jews) yelled to let Barnabas go.

 

[Sunni Man]

Irosie hopes that if she peppers her raves and rants with enough expletives and capitalizes a couple of entire words. Then maybe people will think she knows what she is talking about. ..... ..

 

[irosie91]

Irosie hopes that if she peppers her raves and rants with enough expletives and capitalizes a couple of entire words. Then maybe people will think she knows what she is talking about. ..... ..

sunni referred to this post>>>>
try again, Penelope-----the Pharisees had no power-------the only people who had any power other than romans were their shills----the SADDUCEES -------it was the sadducees who were peripherally involved ------it any jews at all Learn some history------try reading the New Testament Jesus ended up buried in the family tomb of a prominent PHARISEE------the Pharisees were his only friends


He imagines that if he claims it included "expletives" or some sort of aberrations -----someone will simply believe---- It is a mosque technique--------repeat over and over ",,an mo is the prophet...' and eventually the idiiots will believe it

 

[irosie91]

Calling names, doesn't work with me. The Pharisees and the Scribes handed him over to the Romans to be put to death, face facts, he was a threat to them, and oh the Pharisees loved their power.

try again, Penelope-----the Pharisees had no power-------the only people who had any power other than romans were their shills----the SADDUCEES -------it was the sadducees who were peripherally involved ------it any jews at all Learn some history------try reading the New Testament Jesus ended up buried in the family tomb of a prominent PHARISEE------the Pharisees were his only friends -----

The Pharisees were the Rabbinical Jews. They sat in the seat of Moses, Spritiual leaders , your right they had no civil rights, was reserved for the Sanhedrin of who the leader was called the Nasi.

you are confabulating, Penelope. No jews had civil rights back then------some people had the favor of the romans----to wit ----their shills ----like those they used as tax collectors Your attempt to invent history about which you know nothing is silly. The word 'NASI' is simply a Hebrew word which means something like "president'
At that time even the Sanhedrin consisted of roman appointees. King Herod was also a roman appointee. Jesus was a Pharisee jew------rebel against rome. The only people that the romans crucified were rebels against rome -----the Sanhedrin never crucified anyone. That court was still constrained by jewish law which did not allow crucifixtion

 

[irosie91]

Calling names, doesn't work with me. The Pharisees and the Scribes handed him over to the Romans to be put to death, face facts, he was a threat to them, and oh the Pharisees loved their power.

try again, Penelope-----the Pharisees had no power-------the only people who had any power other than romans were their shills----the SADDUCEES -------it was the sadducees who were peripherally involved ------it any jews at all Learn some history------try reading the New Testament Jesus ended up buried in the family tomb of a prominent PHARISEE------the Pharisees were his only friends -----

The Pharisees were the Rabbinical Jews. They sat in the seat of Moses, Spritiual leaders , your right they had no judicial rights, that was reserved for the Sanhedrin of who the leader was called the Nasi. In 30AD Rome took the right of capital punishment away from the Sanhedrin, thus the Romans had to kill Jesus, because the head jews wanted Rome to, and Rome did to appease them. (remember they got to pick between Barnabas and Jesus, and the people (jews) yelled to let Barnabas go.

actually not true-------the Sanhedrin did not lose the right to capital punishment-----it just didn't In fact according to the NT itself----the Sanhedrin sentenced JAMES to death (not likely, however) Try reading the book. Lots of the issues that confuse your addled mind can be cleared up only by reading the book with some level of understanding. The answers are right there IN THE BOOK ------sometimes in a kind of occult manner. The romans had no interest in jewish jurisprudence------it's only interest was in protecting ROMAN interests. Common crime was still in the hands of the jewish courts-----local and the big one in Jerusalem. Crucifixtion was a roman thing----but people could be executed by other means out of jewish courts

 

[GHook93]

The Talmud will save Judaism

Given this set of predicaments, is a Jewish renewal possible in the 21st century? We believe it is. The secret to this renewal lies in understanding that the genius of Judaism resides in its Talmudic tradition.

The lyricism of the Koran is unsurpassed and the New Testament's teachings on universal love and brotherhood are more progressive than many a passage of Leviticus. Thus, emphasizing the Bible as the starting point to appreciating Judaism is a losing proposition. However, as anyone who has studied in a yeshiva knows well, the Bible is not the cornerstone of traditional Judaism. The Talmud is the key to appreciating Judaism.

Secularized Jews must be exposed to the depth and beauty of rabbinical literature in order to be captivated by their faith. For this approach to succeed, rabbis should start to deemphasize the divine origin of the Bible as a principle of faith. It is the Talmud whose quest deserves reverence as divinely inspired.


The sooner the Jewish and rabbinical establishments understand that teaching the Talmud is the key to Jewish continuity, the more successful are efforts to draw Jews back to Judaism bound to be. The Talmud may no longer shield Jews from assimilation thanks to its social and dietary restrictions. However it can disabuse many young Jews from the prejudice that Judaism is anachronistic. If anything, the Talmud was and remains well ahead of its times.

The Talmud will save Judaism - Israel Jewish Scene Ynetnews

It would be wise to look up the terms anachronistic and (lyricism of the Koran is unsurpassed)
and lyricism.

The writer here is saying, the OT is and has become obsolete, the Talmud is for today. Even the Quran and NT is better than the Torah.

Not the coming Musllim Holocaust is what will save the WORLD. When there isn't a safe place on the planet for the cult members to hide. Then the Jews will be save!

Didn't work as planned in Arizona did it. You Talmudist are worst than Muslims ever dreamed of.

I don't follow the bible and couldn't even utter a word of the Talmud. But the way the Muslims are going they will provoke every quarter of the globe into annihilating them. They are currently at war with Chinese, Russians, Indians and the West. They keep pushing the envelope, then the results will be a Muslim genocide!

 

[irosie91]

The Talmud will save Judaism

Given this set of predicaments, is a Jewish renewal possible in the 21st century? We believe it is. The secret to this renewal lies in understanding that the genius of Judaism resides in its Talmudic tradition.

The lyricism of the Koran is unsurpassed and the New Testament's teachings on universal love and brotherhood are more progressive than many a passage of Leviticus. Thus, emphasizing the Bible as the starting point to appreciating Judaism is a losing proposition. However, as anyone who has studied in a yeshiva knows well, the Bible is not the cornerstone of traditional Judaism. The Talmud is the key to appreciating Judaism.

Secularized Jews must be exposed to the depth and beauty of rabbinical literature in order to be captivated by their faith. For this approach to succeed, rabbis should start to deemphasize the divine origin of the Bible as a principle of faith. It is the Talmud whose quest deserves reverence as divinely inspired.


The sooner the Jewish and rabbinical establishments understand that teaching the Talmud is the key to Jewish continuity, the more successful are efforts to draw Jews back to Judaism bound to be. The Talmud may no longer shield Jews from assimilation thanks to its social and dietary restrictions. However it can disabuse many young Jews from the prejudice that Judaism is anachronistic. If anything, the Talmud was and remains well ahead of its times.

The Talmud will save Judaism - Israel Jewish Scene Ynetnews

It would be wise to look up the terms anachronistic and (lyricism of the Koran is unsurpassed)
and lyricism.

The writer here is saying, the OT is and has become obsolete, the Talmud is for today. Even the Quran and NT is better than the Torah.

Not the coming Musllim Holocaust is what will save the WORLD. When there isn't a safe place on the planet for the cult members to hide. Then the Jews will be save!

Didn't work as planned in Arizona did it. You Talmudist are worst than Muslims ever dreamed of.

I don't follow the bible and couldn't even utter a word of the Talmud. But the way the Muslims are going they will provoke every quarter of the globe into annihilating them. They are currently at war with Chinese, Russians, Indians and the West. They keep pushing the envelope, then the results will be a Muslim genocide!

has Penelope accused you of being a Talmudist? she certainly does not qualify as being even literate The words ANACHRONISTIC and LYRICISM are strange to her. Even after checking the dictionary she did not understand what she read.

 

[Penelope]

Calling names, doesn't work with me. The Pharisees and the Scribes handed him over to the Romans to be put to death, face facts, he was a threat to them, and oh the Pharisees loved their power.

try again, Penelope-----the Pharisees had no power-------the only people who had any power other than romans were their shills----the SADDUCEES -------it was the sadducees who were peripherally involved ------it any jews at all Learn some history------try reading the New Testament Jesus ended up buried in the family tomb of a prominent PHARISEE------the Pharisees were his only friends -----

The Pharisees were the Rabbinical Jews. They sat in the seat of Moses, Spritiual leaders , your right they had no civil rights, was reserved for the Sanhedrin of who the leader was called the Nasi.

you are confabulating, Penelope. No jews had civil rights back then------some people had the favor of the romans----to wit ----their shills ----like those they used as tax collectors Your attempt to invent history about which you know nothing is silly. The word 'NASI' is simply a Hebrew word which means something like "president'
At that time even the Sanhedrin consisted of roman appointees. King Herod was also a roman appointee. Jesus was a Pharisee jew------rebel against rome. The only people that the romans crucified were rebels against rome -----the Sanhedrin never crucified anyone. That court was still constrained by jewish law which did not allow crucifixtion

Once again your wrong, as long as they paid taxes to the Persians, Greeks and Romans and did not cause uprest they had freedom, but as usual , the jews wanted to be the boss, and well so now they have another persons land and call it their own, as everyone else got tired of them. The US is not going to let them run the show for much longer. Israel had best start behaving.

Jesus was not a Pharisee, and whether he was even considered a Jew in his day remains to be seen. So there, Jesus believed in peace in the end and all humans are children of God. The jews denied him and the gentiles loved him. Deal with it. You can have Moses who had his priests kill 3000 of their family and brothers (which they did according to your OT) , simply because they didn't agree with him.

 

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The Talmud will save Judaism

Given this set of predicaments, is a Jewish renewal possible in the 21st century? We believe it is. The secret to this renewal lies in understanding that the genius of Judaism resides in its Talmudic tradition.

The lyricism of the Koran is unsurpassed and the New Testament's teachings on universal love and brotherhood are more progressive than many a passage of Leviticus. Thus, emphasizing the Bible as the starting point to appreciating Judaism is a losing proposition. However, as anyone who has studied in a yeshiva knows well, the Bible is not the cornerstone of traditional Judaism. The Talmud is the key to appreciating Judaism.

Secularized Jews must be exposed to the depth and beauty of rabbinical literature in order to be captivated by their faith. For this approach to succeed, rabbis should start to deemphasize the divine origin of the Bible as a principle of faith. It is the Talmud whose quest deserves reverence as divinely inspired.


The sooner the Jewish and rabbinical establishments understand that teaching the Talmud is the key to Jewish continuity, the more successful are efforts to draw Jews back to Judaism bound to be. The Talmud may no longer shield Jews from assimilation thanks to its social and dietary restrictions. However it can disabuse many young Jews from the prejudice that Judaism is anachronistic. If anything, the Talmud was and remains well ahead of its times.

The Talmud will save Judaism - Israel Jewish Scene Ynetnews

It would be wise to look up the terms anachronistic and (lyricism of the Koran is unsurpassed)
and lyricism.

The writer here is saying, the OT is and has become obsolete, the Talmud is for today. Even the Quran and NT is better than the Torah.

Not the coming Musllim Holocaust is what will save the WORLD. When there isn't a safe place on the planet for the cult members to hide. Then the Jews will be save!

Didn't work as planned in Arizona did it. You Talmudist are worst than Muslims ever dreamed of.

I don't follow the bible and couldn't even utter a word of the Talmud. But the way the Muslims are going they will provoke every quarter of the globe into annihilating them. They are currently at war with Chinese, Russians, Indians and the West. They keep pushing the envelope, then the results will be a Muslim genocide!

has Penelope accused you of being a Talmudist? she certainly does not qualify as being even literate The words ANACHRONISTIC and LYRICISM are strange to her. Even after checking the dictionary she did not understand what she read.

An anachronism (from the Greek ἀνά ana, "against" and χρόνος khronos, "time"), is a chronological inconsistency in some arrangement, especially a juxtaposition of person(s), events, objects, or customs from different periods of time. (in reference to the OT)

and Lyricism is beautiful words of emotion.