The Steel in Obama's Spine

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The headline comes from Politico:


"As Vladimir Putin’s troops seize control of Ukraine’s Crimean peninsula, President Obama is facing what some have called the biggest foreign policy challenge of his presidency.

"True or not, it’s clear his response to this crisis will test him as rarely before.

"Will he risk a war in Europe to save Ukraine?

"Punish the Russians through sanctions and diplomatic isolation?

"Negotiate a face-saving compromise?

"Or let Putin have his way

The Steel in Barack Obama?s Spine - POLITICO Magazine

Or maybe Obama could find the courage to tell the American people another aspect of the recent "flowering of democracy" in Ukraine?

The part about how the US generously supported Neo-Nazi elements in Svoboda, five billion dollars according to Victoria (the "F-Word") Nuland, and how Western media makes sure its readers and viewers aren't aware of how Ukrainian fascists have been entrusted with key positions in the new administration which grant them "de-facto control over its Armed Forces, Police, Justice and Security."


The U.S. has Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine | Global Research

"The Western media has casually avoided to analyze the composition and ideological underpinnings of the government coalition.

"The word 'Neo-Nazi' is a taboo.

"It has been excluded from the dictionary of mainstream media commentary.

"It will not appear in the pages of the New York Times, the Washington Post or The Independent.

"Journalists have been instructed not to use the term 'Neo-Nazi' to designate Svoboda and the Right Sector."
 
I looked at it briely. See if you can find anything wrong with this statement:

"Confirmed by Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, key organizations in the Ukraine including the Neo-Nazi party Svoboda were generously supported by Washington: “We have invested more than 5 billion dollars to help Ukraine to achieve these and other goals. … We will continue to promote Ukraine to the future it deserves.”
 
I looked at it briely. See if you can find anything wrong with this statement:

"Confirmed by Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, key organizations in the Ukraine including the Neo-Nazi party Svoboda were generously supported by Washington: “We have invested more than 5 billion dollars to help Ukraine to achieve these and other goals. … We will continue to promote Ukraine to the future it deserves
Nuland and other neo-cons sound like they're proposing a future for Ukraine that is based on IMF austerity measures that have recently proven disastrous for a majority of Greeks and others while providing major revenue streams for private western investors.
 
I looked at it briely. See if you can find anything wrong with this statement:

"Confirmed by Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, key organizations in the Ukraine including the Neo-Nazi party Svoboda were generously supported by Washington: “We have invested more than 5 billion dollars to help Ukraine to achieve these and other goals. … We will continue to promote Ukraine to the future it deserves
Nuland and other neo-cons sound like they're proposing a future for Ukraine that is based on IMF austerity measures that have recently proven disastrous for a majority of Greeks and others while providing major revenue streams for private western investors.

You mean noodle.
 
Nuland and other neo-cons sound like they're proposing a future for Ukraine that is based on IMF austerity measures that have recently proven disastrous for a majority of Greeks and others while providing major revenue streams for private western investors.
How does that demonstate the US installing the Neo-Nazi party?
 
steel in obama's spine?


bwahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaahaa!!
"Even to his most ardent admirers, Barack Obama is an enigma. What principles drive him? What ideology is at the heart of his policymaking? In the case of Ukraine, admirers have rushed to commend the president’s 'realistic' appreciation of the limits of American power.

"For the rest, Obama appears weak in the face of Russian resolve, whipsawed by reality, bereft of options as a result of previous policy blunders

The Steel in Barack Obama?s Spine - POLITICO Magazine

What's so funny?
 
steel in obama's spine?


bwahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaahaa!!
"Even to his most ardent admirers, Barack Obama is an enigma. What principles drive him? What ideology is at the heart of his policymaking? In the case of Ukraine, admirers have rushed to commend the president’s 'realistic' appreciation of the limits of American power.

"For the rest, Obama appears weak in the face of Russian resolve, whipsawed by reality, bereft of options as a result of previous policy blunders

The Steel in Barack Obama?s Spine - POLITICO Magazine

What's so funny?


what's so funny?

the notion of a trace of steel in obama's spine; or the implication that he is "bereft of options as a result of previous blunders"

as good an excuse for weakness as any i guess
 
There were hints a few days ago that the Ukrainian leaders/activists will not be nominated for sainthood any time soon. Probably the best thing that can be said is that the pundits, the press and the pols remain clueless about forces on the loose in the world and that's why they cheer when we cut our military to buy votes from the slobs....standing...in the line...to the trough.
 
I looked at it briely. See if you can find anything wrong with this statement:

"Confirmed by Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, key organizations in the Ukraine including the Neo-Nazi party Svoboda were generously supported by Washington: “We have invested more than 5 billion dollars to help Ukraine to achieve these and other goals. … We will continue to promote Ukraine to the future it deserves
Nuland and other neo-cons sound like they're proposing a future for Ukraine that is based on IMF austerity measures that have recently proven disastrous for a majority of Greeks and others while providing major revenue streams for private western investors.

You mean noodle.
Obama's spine?
Apparently, you're not alone in that assessment.
How would Bush II have handled this situation in Ukraine?
 
Nuland and other neo-cons sound like they're proposing a future for Ukraine that is based on IMF austerity measures that have recently proven disastrous for a majority of Greeks and others while providing major revenue streams for private western investors.

You mean noodle.
Obama's spine?
Apparently, you're not alone in that assessment.
How would Bush II have handled this situation in Ukraine?

Well given President Gunslingers history I'd imagine he do something bold and decisive like invading some country that has absolutely nothing to do with the situation in the Ukraine and then blow a massive pile of American Blood and Treasure trying to turn it into a democracy.
 
Nuland and other neo-cons sound like they're proposing a future for Ukraine that is based on IMF austerity measures that have recently proven disastrous for a majority of Greeks and others while providing major revenue streams for private western investors.

You mean noodle.
Obama's spine?
Apparently, you're not alone in that assessment.
How would Bush II have handled this situation in Ukraine?

What difference, at this point, does that make?

:cuckoo:
 
well we did get to see Bush claim the Urikranian elections were stolen because the exit polling didn't match the results back in early two thousand.


he was saying at the same time that our exit polls were worthless and meant nothing
 
Well given President Gunslingers history I'd imagine he do something bold and decisive like invading some country that has absolutely nothing to do with the situation in the Ukraine and then blow a massive pile of American Blood and Treasure trying to turn it into a democracy.
Like he did with Georgia. Keep straining to fit the facts into your beliefs. Obama is impotent on the world stage and the left blames Bush. That makes sense.
 
Nuland and other neo-cons sound like they're proposing a future for Ukraine that is based on IMF austerity measures that have recently proven disastrous for a majority of Greeks and others while providing major revenue streams for private western investors.
How does that demonstate the US installing the Neo-Nazi party?
Ukrainian neo-Nazis are largely nationalists opposed to an alliance with the EU or with Russia, unlike a majority of western Ukrainians who favor closer ties with Europe (and the IMF). In order to bring about an undemocratic coup in Kiev, the US and its opposition allies relied on the neo-Nazis to gain control of the streets and force the democratically elected president to flee to Russia; neo-Nazis accomplished this by throwing fire bombs at police officers and government buildings. According to some sources today the same fascist elements are purging people in positions of authority within the civil service, regional and municipal governments, and education, and there appear to be racial overtones that remind many eastern Ukrainians of how their western brothers and sisters conspired with Hitler during WWII.
 
Well given President Gunslingers history I'd imagine he do something bold and decisive like invading some country that has absolutely nothing to do with the situation in the Ukraine and then blow a massive pile of American Blood and Treasure trying to turn it into a democracy.
Like he did with Georgia. Keep straining to fit the facts into your beliefs. Obama is impotent on the world stage and the left blames Bush. That makes sense.

PROVE with facts that anything you say here is anything more than YOUR hate for our first black president?


You never seem to offer any facts to back what you claim
 
steel in obama's spine?


bwahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaahaa!!
"Even to his most ardent admirers, Barack Obama is an enigma. What principles drive him? What ideology is at the heart of his policymaking? In the case of Ukraine, admirers have rushed to commend the president’s 'realistic' appreciation of the limits of American power.

"For the rest, Obama appears weak in the face of Russian resolve, whipsawed by reality, bereft of options as a result of previous policy blunders

The Steel in Barack Obama?s Spine - POLITICO Magazine

What's so funny?


what's so funny?

the notion of a trace of steel in obama's spine; or the implication that he is "bereft of options as a result of previous blunders"

as good an excuse for weakness as any i guess
What would a "strong" president do about Russians in Crimea?
 
Ukrainian neo-Nazis are largely nationalists opposed to an alliance with the EU or with Russia, unlike a majority of western Ukrainians who favor closer ties with Europe (and the IMF). In order to bring about an undemocratic coup in Kiev, the US and its opposition allies relied on the neo-Nazis to gain control of the streets and force the democratically elected president to flee to Russia; neo-Nazis accomplished this by throwing fire bombs at police officers and government buildings. According to some sources today the same fascist elements are purging people in positions of authority within the civil service, regional and municipal governments, and education, and there appear to be racial overtones that remind many eastern Ukrainians of how their western brothers and sisters conspired with Hitler during WWII.
Interesting theory. How about something factual to support the claims? And what's the plan to get rid of them or do we send the KKK over to set up shop for the US?
 
Well given President Gunslingers history I'd imagine he do something bold and decisive like invading some country that has absolutely nothing to do with the situation in the Ukraine and then blow a massive pile of American Blood and Treasure trying to turn it into a democracy.
Like he did with Georgia. Keep straining to fit the facts into your beliefs. Obama is impotent on the world stage and the left blames Bush. That makes sense.

PROVE with facts that anything you say here is anything more than YOUR hate for our first black president?


You never seem to offer any facts to back what you claim
Uhm, I need to prove Bush didn't invade Georgia? I guess we can't expect you to be razor sharp after your third bowl of the morning.
 
Don't Shoot!
The headline comes from Politico:


"As Vladimir Putin’s troops seize control of Ukraine’s Crimean peninsula, President Obama is facing what some have called the biggest foreign policy challenge of his presidency.

"True or not, it’s clear his response to this crisis will test him as rarely before.

"Will he risk a war in Europe to save Ukraine?

"Punish the Russians through sanctions and diplomatic isolation?

"Negotiate a face-saving compromise?

"Or let Putin have his way

The Steel in Barack Obama?s Spine - POLITICO Magazine

Or maybe Obama could find the courage to tell the American people another aspect of the recent "flowering of democracy" in Ukraine?

The part about how the US generously supported Neo-Nazi elements in Svoboda, five billion dollars according to Victoria (the "F-Word") Nuland, and how Western media makes sure its readers and viewers aren't aware of how Ukrainian fascists have been entrusted with key positions in the new administration which grant them "de-facto control over its Armed Forces, Police, Justice and Security."


The U.S. has Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine | Global Research

"The Western media has casually avoided to analyze the composition and ideological underpinnings of the government coalition.

"The word 'Neo-Nazi' is a taboo.

"It has been excluded from the dictionary of mainstream media commentary.

"It will not appear in the pages of the New York Times, the Washington Post or The Independent.

"Journalists have been instructed not to use the term 'Neo-Nazi' to designate Svoboda and the Right Sector."

This is SUCH a non-issue!

Obama IS SOOOOOOOO NOT going to war about this.
 

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