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Facts that we could both agree came from credible sources might be difficult to locate at this time. As far as a plan, I would suggest a vote by all eligible Ukrainians on whether they want ties to the EU or Russia or both; if that results in a division of the country along ethnic lines, it might be the least worst choice available.Interesting theory. How about something factual to support the claims? And what's the plan to get rid of them or do we send the KKK over to set up shop for the US?Ukrainian neo-Nazis are largely nationalists opposed to an alliance with the EU or with Russia, unlike a majority of western Ukrainians who favor closer ties with Europe (and the IMF). In order to bring about an undemocratic coup in Kiev, the US and its opposition allies relied on the neo-Nazis to gain control of the streets and force the democratically elected president to flee to Russia; neo-Nazis accomplished this by throwing fire bombs at police officers and government buildings. According to some sources today the same fascist elements are purging people in positions of authority within the civil service, regional and municipal governments, and education, and there appear to be racial overtones that remind many eastern Ukrainians of how their western brothers and sisters conspired with Hitler during WWII.
The issue isn't whether Obama starts a global nuclear war or not. It is about why he isn't telling the American people about their government's support of a coup in Ukraine that depended heavily on Neo-Nazis tossing fire bombs at police and government buildings for its success.Don't Shoot!
The headline comes from Politico:
"As Vladimir Putins troops seize control of Ukraines Crimean peninsula, President Obama is facing what some have called the biggest foreign policy challenge of his presidency.
"True or not, its clear his response to this crisis will test him as rarely before.
"Will he risk a war in Europe to save Ukraine?
"Punish the Russians through sanctions and diplomatic isolation?
"Negotiate a face-saving compromise?
"Or let Putin have his way
The Steel in Barack Obama?s Spine - POLITICO Magazine
Or maybe Obama could find the courage to tell the American people another aspect of the recent "flowering of democracy" in Ukraine?
The part about how the US generously supported Neo-Nazi elements in Svoboda, five billion dollars according to Victoria (the "F-Word") Nuland, and how Western media makes sure its readers and viewers aren't aware of how Ukrainian fascists have been entrusted with key positions in the new administration which grant them "de-facto control over its Armed Forces, Police, Justice and Security."
The U.S. has Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine | Global Research
"The Western media has casually avoided to analyze the composition and ideological underpinnings of the government coalition.
"The word 'Neo-Nazi' is a taboo.
"It has been excluded from the dictionary of mainstream media commentary.
"It will not appear in the pages of the New York Times, the Washington Post or The Independent.
"Journalists have been instructed not to use the term 'Neo-Nazi' to designate Svoboda and the Right Sector."
This is SUCH a non-issue!
Obama IS SOOOOOOOO NOT going to war about this.
Take your own advice and learn about Colonel Ralph Peters's plans for the New Middle East:
I suspect it's even worse than that; both Putin and Obama serve the same corporate masters, and their biggest problem is continuing a world-wide financial scam that requires a certain level of economic partnership without upsetting the "Patriots" they both answer to politically.(especially in their respective militaries)Because the world's slouching toward a showdown between a pair of nuclear superpowers and the resident regime in Kiev (which was installed by the West) shows no sign of favoring dialogue between the principals involved.What difference, at this point, does that make?
Some in this country would probably label Obama "weak" if he proposed a meeting between himself, Putin, Yanukovych, and the presiding chief executive of Ukraine, Oleksandr Turchynov.
Would you?
How Bush would have handled this is irrelevant, he isn't the president, and giving an opinion of how he would handle this would be just that, an opinion. It's nonsensical to even ask the question. Shall we play the "Romney: if, then" game too? Blarg.
"President Putin seems to have a different set of lawyers making a different set of interpretations," Obama said, "but I don't think that's fooling anybody." obama is a putz.
Putin is a ruthless sob, proceed accordingly. obama is a known liar, proceed accordingly.
Color me skeptical that I don't trust either of them.
And if Putin had been building a "missile defense shield" in Mexico to save Canada from North Korean nukes, how would Bush have handled that?No, Bush would have followed through with the defense shield he brokered with Poland instead of jerking the rug out from under their feet like Obama. And he wouldn't have run around the world stage acting like a pocorn fart.How would Bush II have handled this situation in Ukraine?
Bush would kiss Vlad's ass like he did when Putin invaded Georgia.
I suspect it's even worse than that; both Putin and Obama serve the same corporate masters, and their biggest problem is continuing a world-wide financial scam that requires a certain level of economic partnership without upsetting the "Patriots" they both answer to politically.(especially in their respective militaries)Because the world's slouching toward a showdown between a pair of nuclear superpowers and the resident regime in Kiev (which was installed by the West) shows no sign of favoring dialogue between the principals involved.
Some in this country would probably label Obama "weak" if he proposed a meeting between himself, Putin, Yanukovych, and the presiding chief executive of Ukraine, Oleksandr Turchynov.
Would you?
How Bush would have handled this is irrelevant, he isn't the president, and giving an opinion of how he would handle this would be just that, an opinion. It's nonsensical to even ask the question. Shall we play the "Romney: if, then" game too? Blarg.
"President Putin seems to have a different set of lawyers making a different set of interpretations," Obama said, "but I don't think that's fooling anybody." obama is a putz.
Putin is a ruthless sob, proceed accordingly. obama is a known liar, proceed accordingly.
Color me skeptical that I don't trust either of them.
That's a lot of what ifs. Let's say Cuba, been ther done that. Hopefully he would do the same. However, the US isn't invading Mexico (it's the other way around, really) or Canada and they have nothing to fear like Poland does.And if Putin had been building a "missile defense shield" in Mexico to save Canada from North Korean nukes, how would Bush have handled that?No, Bush would have followed through with the defense shield he brokered with Poland instead of jerking the rug out from under their feet like Obama. And he wouldn't have run around the world stage acting like a pocorn fart.How would Bush II have handled this situation in Ukraine?
Bush would kiss Vlad's ass like he did when Putin invaded Georgia.
It takes no imagination to realize Putin and Obama are both rich politicians serving the richest 1% of their citizens at the expense of their majorities.I suspect it's even worse than that; both Putin and Obama serve the same corporate masters, and their biggest problem is continuing a world-wide financial scam that requires a certain level of economic partnership without upsetting the "Patriots" they both answer to politically.(especially in their respective militaries)How Bush would have handled this is irrelevant, he isn't the president, and giving an opinion of how he would handle this would be just that, an opinion. It's nonsensical to even ask the question. Shall we play the "Romney: if, then" game too? Blarg.
"President Putin seems to have a different set of lawyers making a different set of interpretations," Obama said, "but I don't think that's fooling anybody." obama is a putz.
Putin is a ruthless sob, proceed accordingly. obama is a known liar, proceed accordingly.
Color me skeptical that I don't trust either of them.
You imagining that doesn't make it true.
FACTS
not bullshit
The only steel found in obabbles spine was remnants of rust from Vlad's metal condom...
STEELY DAN
A dildo in the William Burroughs novel 'Naked Lunch'. According to Burroughs, the first Steely Dan was a metal dildo that an evil German bulldyke prostitute crushed using her nether regions, and the second Steely Dan is still in use.
WE Americans are being asked to support one group of thugs versus another group of thugs.
Some of us are dumb enough to think we have a dog in this fight.
