The Sound of Settled Science

[JoeB131]

You just demonstrated that your kult is based on an experiment with maybe three variables, and you claim it accurate predicts the behavior of a system with literally millions of variables.

Stupid kultist. No socialism for you!

Yes, there are a lot of variables... but the the science still stands. You add CO2, heat gets trapped. Period. This isn't complicated. If you put more carbon into the atmosphere than the system can process, it gets hotter a lot faster.

So you have dying coral reefs, melting glaciers, buildings collapsing because the permafrost is melting... but nothing to see here.

 

[westwall]

You really don't spend much time on research before you spew do you?

Whatever, guy, I'm done with you deniers... you are irrelevant to the conversation.

Shhh... the grown ups are talking about how to fix the problem.

Good, we are tired of anti science, religious nutjobs, like you, relying on scripture for your arguments.

Science is never "settled", anyone who makes that claim parked their brain at the door a long, long time ago.

 

[Weatherman2020]

A new tropical Atlantic subsurface temperature reconstruction indicates it was 7°C warmer than today during the Younger Dryas/Bølling-Allerød (~15,000-11,500 years ago), when CO2 concentrations hovered around 210-220 ppm.

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/2018PA003376

There is no such thing as settled science. If Republicans went to school, they would know that.

The majority of Republicans say colleges are bad for America (yes, really)

Maybe you can tell us why it’s good for young people to go into lifetime debt to obtain a job at Walmart.

 

[daveman]

A new tropical Atlantic subsurface temperature reconstruction indicates it was 7°C warmer than today during the Younger Dryas/Bølling-Allerød (~15,000-11,500 years ago), when CO2 concentrations hovered around 210-220 ppm.

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/2018PA003376

There is no such thing as settled science. If Republicans went to school, they would know that.

The majority of Republicans say colleges are bad for America (yes, really)

There is no such thing as settled science...but the Klimate Kult insists the science is settled.

This will not register with you.

 

[daveman]

You just demonstrated that your kult is based on an experiment with maybe three variables, and you claim it accurate predicts the behavior of a system with literally millions of variables.

Stupid kultist. No socialism for you!

Yes, there are a lot of variables... but the the science still stands. You add CO2, heat gets trapped. Period. This isn't complicated. If you put more carbon into the atmosphere than the system can process, it gets hotter a lot faster.

So you have dying coral reefs, melting glaciers, buildings collapsing because the permafrost is melting... but nothing to see here.

It gets hotter a lot faster especially when you alter the past temperature record.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You just demonstrated that your kult is based on an experiment with maybe three variables, and you claim it accurate predicts the behavior of a system with literally millions of variables.

Stupid kultist. No socialism for you!

Yes, there are a lot of variables... but the the science still stands. You add CO2, heat gets trapped. Period. This isn't complicated. If you put more carbon into the atmosphere than the system can process, it gets hotter a lot faster.

So you have dying coral reefs, melting glaciers, buildings collapsing because the permafrost is melting... but nothing to see here.

Please post your science degree. LOL. It’s been freezing here in Boston. Let me guess, Joe, you asshole, it’s the Jews fault? LMAO.

 

[SSDD]

Don't have to.. 95% of SCIENTISTS WHO STUDY THIS THING say it's a problem.

That makes it all the more pathetic...97% of climate scientists are convinced based on exactly what evidence? You can't even produce a single piece of observed, measured evidence which supports the AGW hypothesis over natural variability...exactly what is the consensus based on?

Now, if you saw 20 Doctors about that pain, and 19 of htem told you it was cancer, showed you the x-rays and shit... but the one quack who is on the pay of the Tobacco lobby tells you are fine... have another cigarette.. I'm sure that you'd go for that, too.

If I saw 19 doctors and none of them could show me any actual evidence that my pain was cancer, then I would have to assume that they were making a wild assed guess and no, I would not give them any credibility at all.

Are you saying that you would undergo cancer treatment if the doctors could produce no actual evidence that you had cancer? How stupid would that be?

The Grownups have. IT's why most of the world has signed treaties to reduce CO2 emissions. The Tantrum thrower in the White House, on the other hand.

And still you can't produce the first piece of observed, measured evidence that supports the AGW hypothesis over natural variability...because no such piece of evidence exists...anywhere.

 

[SSDD]

WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE OBVIOUSLY WORLD SOCIALISM IS THE ONLY THING THAT CAN SAVE US

The problem with the modern right wing is that it's science resistance.

Evolution and Climatology is just as true for the Socialist as the Capitalist.

It's been amply demonstrated in this thread you're absolutely clueless about science.

They don't find it odd in the least that they can't produce any actual evidence that supports their hypothesis over natural variability...that is how much they know about science...

Useful idiots is the term that mikey man and the other activist climate "scientists" use to describe people like JoeB13..

 

[SSDD]

You are laughable...what's the matter...need someone to stroke your bruised ego over here? Poor baby....

Pathetic wuwei...absolutely pathetic..

Speaking of that,
Have you discovered a spontaneous process according to your definition yet?
Have you figured out where all that radiation from Venus goes?
Have you got a reason yet why you think black body radiation fails near a hotter object?
So far your answers have always been irrelevant caustic ad hominem.

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Of course...I provided you with a couple...you want to lie now and say that I didn't...that would be your typical MO.

And I gave you the answer to the venus question as well...sorry you didn't like the answer...

As to black body radiation, refer to the second law of thermodynamics...

 

[SSDD]

It's been amply demonstrated in this thread you're absolutely clueless about science.

NOt really... i just don't waste time with Denier Science paid for by the Koch Brothers... two assholes who will thankfully be dead by the time all the really bad stuff starts happening.

Yes...really. If you had a clue, you would either slap us down with evidence, or more likely you would be a skeptic...since there is no evidence with which to slap us down, and you clearly aren't a skeptic, you must be clueless...clueless and making weak assed excuses for not being able to produce any actual evidence to support your belief.

 

[SSDD]

There may be bad stuff going to happen, but it won't be because of American coal and SUVs...it'll be because morons ignorant of history will wreck the economies of the Western world in a ridiculous attempt to "save the planet".

Yeah, buddy, I realize that you don't like the science, but it still remains true whether you believe in it or not.

Unlike religion.

Which science? Science is all about observation, measurement, experiment, and trying to disprove the current hypothesis...got any example of any of those things happening in climate science?

Got a single piece of observed, measured evidence that supports the AGW hypothesis over natural variability? No you don't.

Got any experimental evidence that supports the AGW hypothesis? No you don't.

Got any example of any real effort by climate science to disprove the AGW hypothesis? No you don't...

All you have is a believe based on no actual evidence that supports it.

Faith - n. - belief that is not based on evidence or proof.

You have quasi religious beliefs...that isn't science.

 

[SSDD]

...says the Klimate Kultist.

Climate Change is based on science. You increase the amount of CO2, more heat is trapped and the temperature goes up.

Got a single piece of observed, measured evidence which establishes a coherent relationship between the absorption of infrared radiation by a gas and warming in the atmosphere? No...you do not. You have an unobservable, unmeasurable, untestable mathematical model...and nothing more.

The infrared heating industry has about a million hours of testing, experiment, observation, measurement, and field installations in both residential and commercial applications that demonstrate conclusively that infrared radiation can not heat the air.

Ionmax Ray Far Infrared Heater warms you up, not the air

"Featuring the latest Far Infrared (FIR) heating technology, the Ionmax Ray is able to heat your body directly, not the air, promising more efficient and targeted heating and energy cost savings"

Infrared Heaters - Intek Corp

" Because far infrared technology does not heat the air of the room directly, it is important to maximize the exposure of available surfaces which then re-emit the warmth to provide an even all round ambient warmth."

Far infrared, by the way, is the sort of infrared that CO2 absorbs...the infrared heating industry can show you plenty of evidence that infrared radiation does not and can not warm the air...can you show a single experiment that shows that it does? Didn't think so.

 

[SSDD]

You just demonstrated that your kult is based on an experiment with maybe three variables, and you claim it accurate predicts the behavior of a system with literally millions of variables.

Stupid kultist. No socialism for you!

Yes, there are a lot of variables... but the the science still stands. You add CO2, heat gets trapped. Period. This isn't complicated. If you put more carbon into the atmosphere than the system can process, it gets hotter a lot faster.

So you have dying coral reefs, melting glaciers, buildings collapsing because the permafrost is melting... but nothing to see here.

Describe the mechanism by which CO2 "traps" heat... And if it did indeed trap heat, then the investable result would be a pronounced hot spot in the upper troposphere...a hot spot that has not materialized...because CO2 can not trap anything...CO2 absorbs, and then either loses the energy to another molecule via collision (conduction) or it emits a photon...it does not have any capacity to hold energy.

 

[daveman]

WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE OBVIOUSLY WORLD SOCIALISM IS THE ONLY THING THAT CAN SAVE US

The problem with the modern right wing is that it's science resistance.

Evolution and Climatology is just as true for the Socialist as the Capitalist.

It's been amply demonstrated in this thread you're absolutely clueless about science.

They don't find it odd in the least that they can't produce any actual evidence that supports their hypothesis over natural variability...that is how much they know about science...

Useful idiots is the term that mikey man and the other activist climate "scientists" use to describe people like JoeB13..

They don't need evidence. They have faith.

 

[flacaltenn]

I've never read a scientific article on GW from an oil company.. And I've read a lot of them...

Yawn, you climate deniers are like Flat-Earthers and Moon Landing Conspiracy theorists.... The problem isn't the quality of the evidence, it's that you fear the conclusions of what to do about them.

Or MAYBE we're not interested in having total POLITICAL prescriptions written for ailments that are not ENTIRELY quantified... For instance, what's the LATEST PREDICTION for the temperature anomaly gonna BE in the year 2100? Go tell what it is and how it's formulated..... Don't sit here and spew....

 

[flacaltenn]

I've never read a scientific article on GW from an oil company.. And I've read a lot of them...

Yawn, you climate deniers are like Flat-Earthers and Moon Landing Conspiracy theorists.... The problem isn't the quality of the evidence, it's that you fear the conclusions of what to do about them.

WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE OBVIOUSLY WORLD SOCIALISM IS THE ONLY THING THAT CAN SAVE US

20 saviours on the clown bus for the Dem tickets say pretty much the same thing.. So that makes your statement less ironic.. In fact, Inslee just entered the clown bus with a statement that HIS campaign is ALL ABOUT GW, and today Beta blurted out that our refugee influx is totally driven by that 0.8degC GMASTemp change in our lifetimes.

 

[flacaltenn]

...says the Klimate Kultist.

Climate Change is based on science. You increase the amount of CO2, more heat is trapped and the temperature goes up.

Got a single piece of observed, measured evidence which establishes a coherent relationship between the absorption of infrared radiation by a gas and warming in the atmosphere? No...you do not. You have an unobservable, unmeasurable, untestable mathematical model...and nothing more.

The infrared heating industry has about a million hours of testing, experiment, observation, measurement, and field installations in both residential and commercial applications that demonstrate conclusively that infrared radiation can not heat the air.

Ionmax Ray Far Infrared Heater warms you up, not the air

"Featuring the latest Far Infrared (FIR) heating technology, the Ionmax Ray is able to heat your body directly, not the air, promising more efficient and targeted heating and energy cost savings"

Infrared Heaters - Intek Corp

" Because far infrared technology does not heat the air of the room directly, it is important to maximize the exposure of available surfaces which then re-emit the warmth to provide an even all round ambient warmth."

Far infrared, by the way, is the sort of infrared that CO2 absorbs...the infrared heating industry can show you plenty of evidence that infrared radiation does not and can not warm the air...can you show a single experiment that shows that it does? Didn't think so.

Give it up man.. Those statements are only about the INCREASED efficiency of infra red on DIRECT radiation to objects OTHER then air.. Never blatantly says the "air can NOT be warned" by IR.. Only that the heat capacity of the AIR is much less than the heat capacity of a steakburger or a human body..

 

[progressive hunter]

A new tropical Atlantic subsurface temperature reconstruction indicates it was 7°C warmer than today during the Younger Dryas/Bølling-Allerød (~15,000-11,500 years ago), when CO2 concentrations hovered around 210-220 ppm.

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/2018PA003376

exactly who was holding the thermometer 15K yrs ago???
What kind of thermometer were they using???
and where did they write down the readings???

I call BULLSHIT!!!!

 

[JoeB131]

Good, we are tired of anti science, religious nutjobs, like you, relying on scripture for your arguments.

Science is never "settled", anyone who makes that claim parked their brain at the door a long, long time ago.

Well, when you find a universe where CO2 doesn't trap heat, let us know.

Hey, you know what else is settled science. YOu need oxygen to breath... but my guess is that you've been deprived of oxygen to the brain.

Yes...really. If you had a clue, you would either slap us down with evidence, or more likely you would be a skeptic...

again, guy, the problem with arguing with conspiracy nuts and "skeptics" is that no matter how many times you prove it's a weather balloon, they will INSIST it's a flying saucer.

when you get 95% of the people who know the subject to agree with you, THEN you have evidence.

 

[JoeB131]

Which science? Science is all about observation, measurement, experiment, and trying to disprove the current hypothesis...got any example of any of those things happening in climate science?

You mean other than the thousands of studies... that you want to pretend you don't exist because your greatest fear in life is the Government might force you to buy a compact instead of an SUV?