The seeds of millennials' love for Sanders/socialism were planted in the 60s...

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The reason socialism seems appealing to youngsters is because they haven't thought it through. They love the hedonist aspects of 60's culture combined with government protection and provision. That's because none of them have truly had to fend for themselves and actually consider where the stuff has to come from.
I give the kids a break because of naïveté but the adults are just plain stupid and ignorant. This is why democrats should not be allowed to vote and the voting age should be raised to at least 25 with an exception for military personnel.

 

[peach174]

The system is rigged, but it can still be worked with.

And there is already the dreaded Socialism here, just a very poor version of it...

Yeah that's because of our Constitution and also why they hate it.
waaaa........ we can't get full Socialism - this outdated document needs to go waaa.........
It will work if we do that, and it will work when get enough money.
Yet it never does.

Socialism, especially what you'd call it, works all over the damn world. It even works here Grow up, please, and get past the dogma Socialism = Bad.

Socialism works?
Explain how it works in spite of killing 149 million people since 1918.
Communist Body Count
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Save the dogma. Stick with Sweden, not the USSR.

You should read the thread in Europe and see what a citizen from Sweden says about it falling apart and our President wants to do the same thing to us.

 

[elektra]

I doubt the Millennials will vote for Sanders, I believe this is just more propaganda.

No Democrat has a chance to win after 8 years of Obama, that is why they got Trump to run as a Republican.

Well here are some surveys...

It would hardly be worth asking if Bernie were outpolling Hillary by, say, 60-40 percent among millennials, but lately he seems to be outpolling her by about 85-15 percent. That's crazy. Santa Claus would have a hard time pulling numbers like that against the Grinch.
Why are millennials in love with Bernie Sanders?

As he stands, Sanders has the youth vote locked up. Among voters under the age of 35, Sanders enjoys a cool 11-point lead over Clinton. Though these voters tend to be unpredictable about turnout, their support is significant. President Barack Obama was elected to the White House twice due in large part to his ability to garner support from millennial voters.

Why Millennials Can't Get Enough Of Bernie Sanders

Seems counter to your observation...

My comment say I doubt, I believe. I did not make a definative statement.

Hardly counter to my observation.

I have a bit more I could add, and may, but have not the time.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The system is rigged, but it can still be worked with.

And there is already the dreaded Socialism here, just a very poor version of it...

Yeah that's because of our Constitution and also why they hate it.
waaaa........ we can't get full Socialism - this outdated document needs to go waaa.........
It will work if we do that, and it will work when get enough money.
Yet it never does.

Socialism, especially what you'd call it, works all over the damn world. It even works here Grow up, please, and get past the dogma Socialism = Bad.

Socialism works?
Explain how it works in spite of killing 149 million people since 1918.
Communist Body Count
View attachment 63337
View attachment 63338

Save the dogma. Stick with Sweden, not the USSR.

You should read the thread in Europe and see what a citizen from Sweden says about it falling apart and our President wants to do the same thing to us.

Couldn't care less about the opinion of a bozo like those here, from Sweden.

 

[peach174]

Yeah that's because of our Constitution and also why they hate it.
waaaa........ we can't get full Socialism - this outdated document needs to go waaa.........
It will work if we do that, and it will work when get enough money.
Yet it never does.

Socialism, especially what you'd call it, works all over the damn world. It even works here Grow up, please, and get past the dogma Socialism = Bad.

Socialism works?
Explain how it works in spite of killing 149 million people since 1918.
Communist Body Count
View attachment 63337
View attachment 63338

Save the dogma. Stick with Sweden, not the USSR.

You should read the thread in Europe and see what a citizen from Sweden says about it falling apart and our President wants to do the same thing to us.

Couldn't care less about the opinion of a bozo like those here, from Sweden.

You should because our Government is doing the same thing wanting to bring them here to the States.

 

[Contumacious]

The system is rigged, but it can still be worked with.

And there is already the dreaded Socialism here, just a very poor version of it...

Yeah, there already is the scourge of socialism here. It started with fdr and must be purged. Otherwise, we'll fall on the ash heap. This isnt rocket science. History is replete with such failures.

SOCIALISM TIMELINE

1- 1865 - Ape Lincoln destroys the states and concentrates power in DC
2- 1913 - the socialists adopt the heavy graduated "income" tax
3- 1913 - the socialists adopt the Federal Reserve Act which controls banking and credit
4- 1935 - The US Constitutuion (1787) is abolished
5- 1935 - The US declared bankruptcy
6- 1935 - The US Supreme Court is abolished

 

[healthmyths]

The system is rigged, but it can still be worked with.

And there is already the dreaded Socialism here, just a very poor version of it...

Yeah that's because of our Constitution and also why they hate it.
waaaa........ we can't get full Socialism - this outdated document needs to go waaa.........
It will work if we do that, and it will work when get enough money.
Yet it never does.

Socialism, especially what you'd call it, works all over the damn world. It even works here Grow up, please, and get past the dogma Socialism = Bad.

Socialism works?
Explain how it works in spite of killing 149 million people since 1918.
Communist Body Count
View attachment 63337
View attachment 63338

Save the dogma. Stick with Sweden, not the USSR.

You should read the thread in Europe and see what a citizen from Sweden says about it falling apart and our President wants to do the same thing to us.

And Sweden's cost of health care as a percent of their GDP has gone up.

Sweden's Single-Payer Health System Provides a Warning to Other Nations

www.dailymail.co.uk634 × 476Search by image
... seekers who arrive at Signalisten Asylum Centre, in Västerås, west of Stockholm, where a ten-year-old boy was raped, say they are packed six to a room.

 

[williepete]

The two types of socialist are equally loathsome. The I want what you worked for class "warrior", a.k.a. bum. And the psychopath who wants to be the "first among equals"--the distributor of the wealth of others. This dangerous second sort always ends up the one with the most loot and power. Anyone threatening his position risks his life--having already lost his property.


Glenn Reynolds: Socialism not as hot as its spokesman
Glenn Harlan Reynolds 6:17 p.m. EST February 11, 2016
The young voters flocking to Bernie Sanders may find his rebel status more alluring than his ideas.

And socialism does have a siren call — essentially, the promise that if you vote for socialists, they’ll take stuff away from other people and give it to you. Since many people would rather have free stuff given to them in the name of “fairness” than have to work to get their own stuff, it’s never hard to round up votes with that approach. As the saying goes, a government that robs Peter to pay Paul can count on getting Paul’s vote.

Still, it’s concerning, because the history of the 20th century was basically that of the swath of destruction left across the globe by socialist ideas, from the international socialism of the Bolsheviks and the Soviet Union to the national socialism of Adolf Hitler and his National Socialist German Workers' Party.

Socialism usually starts with talk of “fairness,” but it generally ends in tyranny and poverty. As Alan Kors wrote back in 2003: “No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: ‘No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into.’”

Glenn Reynolds: Socialism not as hot as its spokesman




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[C_Clayton_Jones]

"The seeds of millennials' love for Sanders/socialism were planted in the 60s..."

Delusional nonsense.

 

[Dragonlady]

Why millennials love Bernie Sanders (and hate Donald Trump)
“They think the system’s rigged”: Why millennials love Bernie Sanders (and hate Donald Trump)

And who has encouraged this socialist thinking? Liberal college influences.

Now the above article NEVER mentions the lineage of the liberal college faculty which in a recent poll
showed almost 100 percent of the 2016 presidential political donations made by top liberal arts professors went to Democratic candidates, with only one professor giving to a Republican candidate.

Forty-seven professors at the top 50 liberal arts colleges in the country, as ranked by U.S. News & World Report, have given to presidential campaigns, according to donations recorded in the third quarter by the Federal Election Commission and aggregated by Campus Reform, a conservative watchdog of higher education.
99% of top liberal arts professor campaign donations go to Democrats: report

The reason why these professors teaching the millennials capitalism is bad/socialism is good is simple.

When I was attending a Big Ten university in the 60s it was the height of the SDS.

Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) was a student activist movement in the United States that was one of the main representations of the New Left. The organization developed and expanded rapidly in the mid-1960s before dissolving at its last convention in 1969.
Students for a Democratic Society - Wikipedia, the free ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students_for_a_Democratic_SocietyWikipedia

In my journalism classes were people I knew were avid SDS/Weathermen that at that time advocated the overthrow of the USA and installation of communist/socialist agenda.

I know they were because I was on the fringe of the SDS movement and these same fringe students are now editors/producers/college professors. They STILL have that agenda in mind!

Consequently with above surveys showing 100% of college professors donating to Bernie the socialist or Hillary the progressive... THERE IS A CORRELATION THAT THESE SAME ANTI-AMERICAN SENTIMENTS between millennials' love of Sanders/socialism and the advocacy of destruction of capitalism/"white privilege" can be made!

Total ignorance on their part.
Millennials/Bernie/Hillary are the admirers of a system that has over the past 100 years been responsible for the deaths of 149,469,610 people since 1918.
These top five socialist run countries account for 94% of the deaths.
China 1949 to present... 73,237,000
Russia 1922-1991..........61,911,000
North Korea 1948-present..3,163,000
Cambodia 1975-1987 .....2,627,000
Afghanistan 1978-1992 ... 1,750,000
Total: 140,938,000 or nearly 94% of people killed in the last 100 years by socialists/communists...
the people these professors/these SDS members yes obviously Sanders/Hillary support!
Communist Body Count

What kind of society will the USA be if these people take over with their ignorance of history?

It's not liberals who are ignorant of history, but rather conservatives. There is no liberal bias in public education. Rather, history is replete with liberal (i.e. new ideas) taking over from conservative (i.e. keeping things the same) ideas. Progress is always achieved when forwarding thinking individuals successfully introduce new ideas.

 

[anotherlife]

I have not heard of these two communists indeed, but I am not good with names anyways, usually I don't even bother to remember my teachers' names. In any case, apart from religious arguments, it is only Marxism that connects work, poverty, and mental state in a reasonable logic, no matter how much the media and colleges try to hide this.

Both are university professors who have written books that denounce and trash everything the USA has ever done. Chomsky is an "expert" in linguistics and is excellent and twisting words and political correctness. Howard Zinn was a University professor and a Communist (as in ussr communist versus simply someone who believes in marxism). Howard Zinn's book is the handbook of left that trashes every bit of our history. Guaranteed the book is all over all universities and read by most professors. It is thee most popular book in the world. So they say.

Wow. This is scary. Just when I thought that media was centrally controlled for mass manipulation when TV was invented, I am now learning that books too. I am wondering, would an investigative journalist survive beyond his first day, if he started to follow the money that Chomsky and Zinn get for writing?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yeah that's because of our Constitution and also why they hate it.
waaaa........ we can't get full Socialism - this outdated document needs to go waaa.........
It will work if we do that, and it will work when get enough money.
Yet it never does.

Socialism, especially what you'd call it, works all over the damn world. It even works here Grow up, please, and get past the dogma Socialism = Bad.

Socialism works?
Explain how it works in spite of killing 149 million people since 1918.
Communist Body Count
View attachment 63337
View attachment 63338

Save the dogma. Stick with Sweden, not the USSR.

You should read the thread in Europe and see what a citizen from Sweden says about it falling apart and our President wants to do the same thing to us.

And Sweden's cost of health care as a percent of their GDP has gone up.

Sweden's Single-Payer Health System Provides a Warning to Other Nations
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Compared to?

 

[anotherlife]

Why millennials love Bernie Sanders (and hate Donald Trump)
“They think the system’s rigged”: Why millennials love Bernie Sanders (and hate Donald Trump)

And who has encouraged this socialist thinking? Liberal college influences.

Now the above article NEVER mentions the lineage of the liberal college faculty which in a recent poll
showed almost 100 percent of the 2016 presidential political donations made by top liberal arts professors went to Democratic candidates, with only one professor giving to a Republican candidate.

Forty-seven professors at the top 50 liberal arts colleges in the country, as ranked by U.S. News & World Report, have given to presidential campaigns, according to donations recorded in the third quarter by the Federal Election Commission and aggregated by Campus Reform, a conservative watchdog of higher education.
99% of top liberal arts professor campaign donations go to Democrats: report

The reason why these professors teaching the millennials capitalism is bad/socialism is good is simple.

When I was attending a Big Ten university in the 60s it was the height of the SDS.

Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) was a student activist movement in the United States that was one of the main representations of the New Left. The organization developed and expanded rapidly in the mid-1960s before dissolving at its last convention in 1969.
Students for a Democratic Society - Wikipedia, the free ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students_for_a_Democratic_SocietyWikipedia

In my journalism classes were people I knew were avid SDS/Weathermen that at that time advocated the overthrow of the USA and installation of communist/socialist agenda.

I know they were because I was on the fringe of the SDS movement and these same fringe students are now editors/producers/college professors. They STILL have that agenda in mind!

Consequently with above surveys showing 100% of college professors donating to Bernie the socialist or Hillary the progressive... THERE IS A CORRELATION THAT THESE SAME ANTI-AMERICAN SENTIMENTS between millennials' love of Sanders/socialism and the advocacy of destruction of capitalism/"white privilege" can be made!

Total ignorance on their part.
Millennials/Bernie/Hillary are the admirers of a system that has over the past 100 years been responsible for the deaths of 149,469,610 people since 1918.
These top five socialist run countries account for 94% of the deaths.
China 1949 to present... 73,237,000
Russia 1922-1991..........61,911,000
North Korea 1948-present..3,163,000
Cambodia 1975-1987 .....2,627,000
Afghanistan 1978-1992 ... 1,750,000
Total: 140,938,000 or nearly 94% of people killed in the last 100 years by socialists/communists...
the people these professors/these SDS members yes obviously Sanders/Hillary support!
Communist Body Count

What kind of society will the USA be if these people take over with their ignorance of history?

It's not liberals who are ignorant of history, but rather conservatives. There is no liberal bias in public education. Rather, history is replete with liberal (i.e. new ideas) taking over from conservative (i.e. keeping things the same) ideas. Progress is always achieved when forwarding thinking individuals successfully introduce new ideas.

No, because every new idea is always a step closer to more centralized totalitarian power. And such a power is always an enemy of progress. I speculate, that the 21st century liberal ideology is just a propaganda that is generated by a newly consolidating power structure, that is built on modern globalized technologies such as Internet and automation. Same as when the 18th-19th century industrialization replaced feudalism with banking.

 

[healthmyths]

Socialism, especially what you'd call it, works all over the damn world. It even works here Grow up, please, and get past the dogma Socialism = Bad.

Socialism works?
Explain how it works in spite of killing 149 million people since 1918.
Communist Body Count
View attachment 63337
View attachment 63338

Save the dogma. Stick with Sweden, not the USSR.

You should read the thread in Europe and see what a citizen from Sweden says about it falling apart and our President wants to do the same thing to us.

And Sweden's cost of health care as a percent of their GDP has gone up.

Sweden's Single-Payer Health System Provides a Warning to Other Nations
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Compared to?

Of Which nearly $1 trillion is totally wasted all because of lawyers!
FACTS as doctors who attest to this:
http://www.jacksonhealthcare.com/media/8968/defensivemedicine_ebook_final.pdf

90% of physicians surveyed say they order $850 billion a year in wasted duplicate tests, referrals all out of FEAR of being SUED!

--- Emergency medicine, primary care, and OB/GYN physicians are most likely to practice defensive medicine.
--- 79 to 83% of surgeons and OB/GYNs have been named in lawsuits.
"Physicians contracted by the federal government practice significantly less defensive medicine as they are protected against lawsuits by the
1946 Federal Tort Claims Act. "
-- BUT........Only 48% practice defensive medicine compared to 92% of non-government physicians.
Consider that fact that of the physicians interviewed 52% DID NOT practice defensive medicine!
Who were they? Doctors contracted by federal government!
WHY did these doctors NOT practice "defensive medicine"??? 1946 Tort reform!

The insurance companies don't care as they simple raise the premiums.
If lawyers' $270 BILLION a year income was taxed 10% as ACA taxes tanning salons,
that $27 billion would provide $5,000 premium for each of the less then 4 million true Americans that want and need insurance.
Simple fact.
But you've NEVER refuted this why? Are you a lawyer?
Tell me as an "expert" that these physicians are wrong. Remember they practice daily and experience frequently hints of lawsuits, actual lawsuits and
as a result they simply say aw hell.. let's just order duplicate tests... insurance companies will pay it!

A new study published in the New England Journal of Medicine this week reports that one in 14 doctors faces a malpractice suit every year.
Total Professionally Active Physicians
in 2015 there were 905,061 physicians. This means 64,000 doctors face a malpractice suit.
It costs money for a lawyer. It costs time away from practice.
According to the most recently-available statistics, about 95 percent of pending lawsuits end in a pre-trial settlement. This means that just one in 20 personal injury cases is resolved in a court of law by a judge or jury.
What Percentage of Lawsuits Settle Before Trial? What Are Some Statistics on Personal Injury Settlements?

Do you understand what this means to healthcare costs? Look at Sweden.

Sweden, Denmark, Finland, and New Zealand have used no-fault malpractice systems for 20 to 30 years, with admittedly mixed results. Yet several academics, most notably Harvard's David Studdert and Troyen Brennan, have studied these countries' systems and concluded that a U.S. system modeled on that of Sweden could more consistently compensate victims of avoidable mishaps and more effectively reduce error and incompetence—all for the same cost. No-fault would also make doctors and patients allies rather than adversaries when something goes awry.
In Sweden, when a patient suffers avoidable injury, whether through gross negligence, such as a botched surgery, or through a more understandable but avoidable mistake, such as a misdiagnosis or medication error, the patient—usually with help from the doctor's office—fills out a form requesting compensation.
Do the Swedes have a faultless fix?

Simple Tort reform would save 20 to 40% of this nearly $1 trillion defensive medicine practice!
Translates into lower claims submitted to insurance companies which means under state regulations premiums would DROP!
Health care premiums would drop! Saving billions of dollars to employers and Americans alike.
Simple tort reform!

 

[anotherlife]

The system is rigged, but it can still be worked with.

And there is already the dreaded Socialism here, just a very poor version of it...

Yeah that's because of our Constitution and also why they hate it.
waaaa........ we can't get full Socialism - this outdated document needs to go waaa.........
It will work if we do that, and it will work when get enough money.
Yet it never does.

Socialism, especially what you'd call it, works all over the damn world. It even works here Grow up, please, and get past the dogma Socialism = Bad.

Socialism works?
Explain how it works in spite of killing 149 million people since 1918.
Communist Body Count
View attachment 63337
View attachment 63338

They just wanted to reduce unemployment and increase the efficiency of production. Can you achieve any good rates by leaving all the lesser productive workers around?