The Role of Government in Maintaining a Well Regulated Militia!?!

[progressive hunter]

They are not fucking enforced because every time a person who is legally prohibited from owning a gun is arrested the piece of shit criminal is not charged with a FUCKING FEDERAL CRIME as he should be.

And it states very clearly that the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights are not the only rights people possess it was just thought that those listed were of such importance that they needed to be specifically named.

There is no right of self defense in the Bill of Rights either so I suppose you think it doesn't exist right?

dont confuse him with facts,, he will go into an incoherent rant,,

 

[Failzero]

The civilian militia doesn't exist.

No, shit.

California State Militia exists today

 

[progressive hunter]

California State Militia exists today

almost every state has militias,,,

but dont tell him that he might loose his mind,,

 

[progressive hunter]

The civilian militia doesn't exist.

No, shit.

2nd Infantry Regiment, California State Militia

Serve communities in California while training with citizen members in your area with the CSM

www.californiastatemilitia.org

 

[Smokin' OP]

it took you a whole 30 minutes to come up with a stupid response

WOW....and it took another 15 hours to reply to your stupid comment?
SOMETIMES..............people have shit to do, moron.

guess you forgot that military just got ran out of another country by civilians,,

Nope.

that military hasnt won a war since the 40's

1945.

youre also assuming all the people in the military will kill fellow americans,,

If they're getting shot at, they will.

all that doesnt really matter until you get the constitution changed,, so let me know when that happens,,

Trump and his cult don't care about the constitution.

December 4 2022
Former President Donald Trump faced rebuke Sunday from officials in both parties after calling for the “termination” of parts of the Constitution over his lie that the 2020 election was stolen.

Trump, who announced last month that he is running again for president, made the claim over the weekend on his Truth Social media platform.

“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” he wrote. “Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!”

 

[Smokin' OP]

That iw the dependent clause...and has no bearing on the independent clause.

WTF?
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State", isn't a clause, moron.
It's a preface and part of the complete sentence.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Yees.... the military and paramilitry in Germany murdered 15 millon inncent men, women and children across Europe in just 6 years...

Really?
You don't say?
WHEN did THIS happen?

So no, we wont be giving up our guns based on your stupidity

No one is trying to take your guns.
You're basing that 43 year-old lie on your stupidity.

 

[Smokin' OP]

They are not fucking enforced because every time a person who is legally prohibited from owning a gun is arrested the piece of shit criminal is not charged with a FUCKING FEDERAL CRIME as he should be.

And it states very clearly that the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights are not the only rights people possess it was just thought that those listed were of such importance that they needed to be specifically named.

There is no right of self defense in the Bill of Rights either so I suppose you think it doesn't exist right?

It didn't until states took issue with it.
Why do you think states have different laws regarding self defense?

 

[Smokin' OP]

2nd Infantry Regiment, California State Militia

Serve communities in California while training with citizen members in your area with the CSM

www.californiastatemilitia.org

What a fucking moron.
"California STATE militia"?
You morons think they are recognized or endorsed by the state?

It's a fucking club, recognized by no one but themselves, retards.

The 2nd Infantry Regiment, California State Militia is a legal, unorganized civilian militia as authorized by the U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the California State Constitution. Unorganized, defined to mean not financially supported by or under immediate control of any government agency for the purpose of deployment or assignment to duty. We are a community defense and service organization, and train to support, defend and assist our communities.

 

[Blues Man]

It didn't until states took issue with it.
Why do you think states have different laws regarding self defense?

All states have laws that state when in imminent danger of life or bodily safety force and even deadly force is justified. Show me one state where force or deadly force is never considered justified at any time.

 

[Smokin' OP]

All states have laws that state when in imminent danger of life or bodily safety force and even deadly force is justified. Show me one state where force or deadly force is never considered justified at any time.

They are NOT uniform.
"Why do you think states have DIFFERENT laws regarding self defense?"

 

[Blues Man]

They are NOT uniform.
"Why do you think states have DIFFERENT laws regarding self defense?"

Answer the question

What state has a law stating that self defense and the use of force and deadly force are NEVER justified?

 

[Smokin' OP]

Answer the question

What state has a law stating that self defense and the use of force and deadly force are NEVER justified?

WTF?
OK, dumbshit.
Like THIS has ANYTHING to do with the 2nd amendment.

1) A person is justified in using or threatening to use force, EXCEPT deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other's imminent use of unlawful force.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes... is justified,imminent use of unlawful force.

Florida Statute 776 - Online Sunshine​

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes... is justified,imminent use of unlawful force.
ONLY in an instance were imminent death or great bodily harm.

 

[Blues Man]

WTF?
OK, dumbshit.
Like THIS has ANYTHING to do with the 2nd amendment.

1) A person is justified in using or threatening to use force, EXCEPT deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other's imminent use of unlawful force.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0776/0776.html#:~:text=(1) A person is justified,imminent use of unlawful force.

Florida Statute 776 - Online Sunshine​

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0776/0776.html#:~:text=(1) A person is justified,imminent use of unlawful force.
ONLY in an instance were imminent death or great bodily harm.

Self defense has NOTHING to do with the second amendment and I never said it did.

You said we only have a right to self defense because state governments give people that right. You are wrong again.

 

[2aguy]

Really?
You don't say?
WHEN did THIS happen?

No one is trying to take your guns.
You're basing that 43 year-old lie on your stupidity.

You idiot......

NAZI GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER



German socialists

By genocide, the murder of hostages, reprisal raids, forced labor, "euthanasia," starvation, exposure, medical experiments, and terror bombing, and in the concentration and death camps, the Nazis murdered from 15,003,000 to 31,595,000 people, most likely 20,946,000 men, women, handicapped, aged, sick, prisoners of war, forced laborers, camp inmates, critics, homosexuals, Jews, Slavs, Serbs, Germans, Czechs, Italians, Poles, French, Ukrainians, and many others. Among them 1,000,000 were children under eighteen years of age.1

And none of these monstrous figures even include civilian and military combat or war-deaths

http://[URL='http://hawaii.edu/powe...]http://hawaii.edu/powerkills/NAZIS.CHAP1.HTM

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[Smokin' OP]

Self defense has NOTHING to do with the second amendment and I never said it did.

You said we only have a right to self defense because state governments give people that right. You are wrong again.

NO, you are.

Then WHY did every state pass laws defining "self defense" and the parameters that "self defense"can be used?

 

[Smokin' OP]

You idiot......

NAZI GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER



German socialists

By genocide, the murder of hostages, reprisal raids, forced labor, "euthanasia," starvation, exposure, medical experiments, and terror bombing, and in the concentration and death camps, the Nazis murdered from 15,003,000 to 31,595,000 people, most likely 20,946,000 men, women, handicapped, aged, sick, prisoners of war, forced laborers, camp inmates, critics, homosexuals, Jews, Slavs, Serbs, Germans, Czechs, Italians, Poles, French, Ukrainians, and many others. Among them 1,000,000 were children under eighteen years of age.1

And none of these monstrous figures even include civilian and military combat or war-deaths

http://[URL='http://hawaii.edu/powe...]http://hawaii.edu/powerkills/NAZIS.CHAP1.HTM

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WOW, that ALMOST seems like SOMEONE would have gone to war over that.

 

[Blues Man]

NO, you are.

Then WHY did every state pass laws defining "self defense" and the parameters that "self defense"can be used?

Self defense must be legally defined that in no way means there is no right to defend yourself.

So when you can show me any state where the right to self defense is stated not to exist or a state that has a law that states self defense is never justified your argument fails completely.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Self defense must be legally defined that in no way means there is no right to defend yourself.

So when you can show me any state where the right to self defense is stated not to exist or a state that has a law that states self defense is never justified your argument fails completely.

Sure.................Keep moving those goalpost.

"What state has a law stating that self defense and the use of force and deadly force are NEVER justified"?

 

[Blues Man]

Sure.................Keep moving those goalpost.

"What state has a law stating that self defense and the use of force and deadly force are NEVER justified"?

I'm not YOU said that it is state government that give people the right to self defense and you can't prove it.