JustAGuy1
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Don't fool yourself son.Excuses, excuses, excuses... threadbare, tattered, worn ones, no less... enough of the excuses and bull$hit... very few are listening anymore.You declaring something a 'fact' does not render it thus. The 'victim mindset' within your 'collective' is alive and well and holding 'you' back....Facts, not a victim mindset...
Oh, please, enlighten us, with a substantive example of such 'legislative unfairness' that is (a) still extant and (b) still operative and still being enforced, on a scale large enough to be statistically significant on a nationwide basis.Not only is the legislated unfairness not dead...
And never, ever will be. It's what happens when Advanced Technology Civilizations meet Stone-Age Nomadic and Hunter-Gatherer primitive cultures....the damage created by past deeds has not been fixed...
White American paid for slavery in-full when it lost 600,000+ war-dead in a four-year-long Civil War to abolish slavery, as well as to preserve the Union.
And it paid for 100 years of Jim Crow with 50-60 years of Affirmative Action in government service, the military, prep-school and college admissions, and large corporations.
Your own collective failure to take full advantage of such accommodations is not the fault of White America nor the Federal nor State governments who provided that leg-up.
Rubbish... you, yourself, are a classic example of just that....There is no such thing as a victim mindset in the black community...
Truth-telling and the articulation of honest and widespread opinion does not constitute 'gaslighting'... attempted deflection noted... ignored....The use of that term is common among whites like you who try racial gaslighting...
1. No such thing? You are as wrong as wrong can be....It's crazy talk because there is no such thing as political correctness...
2. the presence or absence of 'politically correct filters' does not prove nor disprove the truthfulness or rationality of an argument
Yes and No. The White Vote is honestly split between two parties. The Black Vote is nearly monolithic in favor of the Party of Freebies (D)....We don't hold a majority in many major cities...
When you halve the White Vote, the monolithic Black Vote oftentimes dominates, politically.
Not really. They look and act more like White Folk. They are more readily recognized as hard workers and independent thinkers. They face bias, but not like Black Folk.,...Hispanics face the same racism...
Wrong again. I value my membership in that broader tribe. I do not apologize for it. Why-in-the-world should I?...and when you talk about collective, it shows that you have released yourself from the reality of the 243 years of the white collective you have been part of your entire life...
You are delusional in this matter...Everything whites have the givernment gave it to you...
Oh, really?...You talk about government social services and whites are the ones that have made a lifestyle out of it. It's been an American tradition...
There is no doubt that more White Americans are on Welfare than there are Black Americans on Welfare.
Predictable, given that Whites represent some 72-77% of the US population and that Blacks only represent 12% .
No... what's REALLY "telling" is the PERCENTAGE of each group that is on Welfare, as may be illustrated by the following government statistics in a 30-year study...
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https://nces.ed.gov/pubs2012/2012026/tables/table_32.asp
And, beyond sheer and damning percentages, we also need to look at the percentage within each demographic that REMAIN on welfare for extended periods of time, and also factor-in 'recidivism'.
Sorry... even a cursory glance beyond the simple-simon Raw Numbers you like to tout serves to expose the foolhardiness of relying solely upon such figures.
In any in-depth examination, 'you' are going to lose such an argument every time.
You declaring it thus does not render it thus....Like I said, you're talking crazy...
Feel free to continue deluding yourself with that counterargument....And your perspective isn't really all that common...
The truth is, most White Folk are far too busy living life... raising families, shaping careers, taking care of their homes, etc... to worry about you-and-yours overly much.
And that goes for many Democrats as well as Republicans. One main difference between the two is how much loose change they're willing to throw at your tribe.
But, once the debate cools down, both go back to their far safer suburbs and high-end stores and schools and go on with their own lives and do not give you a second thought.
In the case of the Democrats, not even a first thought, except to keep you on the hook for another four years until they need you again, and you fall for it, every time.
Of course. And one day the Lions and Lambs will lie down together and there will be Peace in the Valley....but it is enough of a problem that it needs to end...
Overall... occasional spikes in racial turmoil not withstanding... race relations have been getting better with each passing year since the 1960s. Most of us are content that it be so.
But when you pi$$ and moan over 40-acres-and-a-mule (metaphorically speaking) and tell us that we have to change our way of thinking, then you've got a hard row to hoe.
You lack the resources and muscle to force the issue, and legislation and education only takes us so far towards any such lofty goal.
It is far more realistic to strive for Peaceful Coexistence and Mutual Respect and Exploiting Commonalities than it is to continue pressing past Donor Exhaustion for more freebies.
[...Nope, they are the types who seek approval from whites so badly that they will allow themselves to be degraded and used by whites to their disadvantage...
Some are.
Most aren't.
When I see a Black professional or tradesman, I (and most White Folk) see a professional or tradesman first, and skin-color second.
Thank you for your CV, but it is quite clear that you have built your Mindset, if not your career, on a foundation of Victim Mentality and Forty-Acres-and-a-Mule....I am not a black conservative, built 3 organizations and retired young enough to where today I get paid to do personal projects on my own time...
True. But there can be Peaceful Coexistence and Mutual Respect and the Exploiting of Commonalities....There ain't no such thing as color blind...
Your 20th-great-grandchildren should live so long...., and there won't be until the damage whites created by 243 years of color conscious society building is fixed.
Wake us up, when you get the British and Spanish and Portugese and Dutch to agree to chip-in with their fair share of any such Fantasy Reparations.
Not to mention hitting-up the Muslim descendants of the Arab Slave Traders and African Tribes who caught and wholesaled those poor unfortunates, centuries ago.
Get all of them to agree to contribute their own fair share, then strip-out the cost of 600,000 war-dead from the 1860s, and the cash value of 50-60 years of Affirmative Action, and come up with a Reparations Recipient Identifier and Payment Calculator system that those paying the freight can agree upon, and you might actually have a shot at that.
Good luck with that.
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This is all to say that a great many White Folk in the country don't mind if our Black fellow-citizens grab their own fair share of the pie.
It's just that we're done hand-delivering that slice... it's time to get off 'your' dead a$$ and get it yourselves.
And, of course, these Inequality and Reparations themes appear to be cornerstones of your own existence; you eat, sleep and breathe it.
I hate to break it to you but, beyond your own 'collective', it's not exactly either a regularly-occurring thought nor much of a priority, and quite frankly, that's unlikely to change.
If there is any truth in that, your long-term choices seem to be (a) fight or (b) mainstream.
I have great confidence that the majority of your colleagues will chose (b).
All your bullshit post cannot obscured what your chart shows in spades: Non-whites are routingly and systemically descriminated against such that poverty is higher in every non-white socio-economic group. I know that your aim is to prove that blacks are lazier and thus more likely to be on welfare than any other raciala group.
Instead your chart graphically illustrates that if you're dumb, white and lazy, you're still better off economically than being black, Hispanic, or Asian.
Notice how in times of economic hardship, how the welfare rate increase is double for non-whites than it is for white people. This is proof positive that in hard times, low income blacks, Latinos and Native Americans face greater financial hardship than white people.
You've posted all these conservative talking points on the sources and causes of poverty that still comes down to Republicans blame the poor for an economic system built to keep white people on top, non-whites struggling. This fiction that anybody can make it America is a Republican fairy tale.
In 1980, if you were born poor, you had a 20% chance, through education, hard work, and fiscal prudence, to work your way out of poverty. Today, your chances are less than 2%. Republicans have successfully murdered the American dream that in America everyone has the same chance to succeed.
Helter Skelter baby?