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I got attached to the baby monkey they called her jellybean. I couldn't not keep reporting it. I cried everyday. She was precious it was awful. They kill the mother monkey and steal babies just for this. The public creeps call them tree rats and made terrible remarks and suggestions and offer to pay in donations for the torture. I honestly feel led to keep fighting for those babies.I'm actually surprised who God awful YouTube is. I got personally threatened by Google for my remarks about Palestinians but animal abuse videos stay up. I scroll past all of them when I come across them. I don't want to give them any views
Totally understand and agree. I just can't put images like that in my head knowing there's nothing I can do. It HAUNTS me. But the same thing happens BILLIONS of times every year to the creatures whose personalities you haven't seen. I've watched my friends bird call her dogs using HER voice! When the dogs come running, the bird LAUGHS! She knows what she's doing and this is PLAY. And this is a "dumb" bird! This is why, as a Christian, I strongly oppose the abuse we put all God's creatures through for our own pleasure. Hopefully soon this Age of Man will come to the end we so rightfully deserveI got attached to the baby monkey they called her jellybean. I couldn't not keep reporting it. I cried everyday. She was precious it was awful. They kill the mother monkey and steal babies just for this. The public creeps call them tree rats and made terrible remarks and suggestions and offer to pay in donations for the torture. I honestly feel led to keep fighting for those babies.
It is based on the premise that any animal that is being raised to be used as food is in an “abuse situation”.
The OP's intent is an intellectual bait-and-switch—get us to agree that gratuitous cruelty to animals is wrong, and that one is justified in rescuing an animal from such a situation, in order to argue that PETA types are justified in “rescuing” animal being raised and used for legitimate purposes, such as for food, or for other benefits to humans.
You lied, here in front of all of us, in a Zone 1 thread where such conduct isn't supposed to be allowed. And now you are crying because you were caught and called-out for it.
You started this thread on a blatantly false premise, and you're upset because nobody believes your lies.
You are not fooling anyone.
I'm not going to get involved with Bob's and buttercup's feud as I like you both. buttercup, I'm sorry that I had the wrong thoughts and ideas about you when it comes to this thread as I don't think that you're lying about this. Anyways, here's a question for you or any of the other vegans on here. Can't I like ham, pork, and bacon, and pigs at the same time? Same with cows and their meat and dairy. Asking the question because I'm going to a farm next month and even they talk about how their animals is where your food comes from when children come and visit.
Not sure if I could be a farmer or not because I might form an emotional attachment to the animals, but as of right now I don't as their just animals made to be eaten to me because I've never had a cow or a pig or a chicken. Not saying that I couldn't butcher them, but I could understand why people who have been farmers before might quit and become vegetarians or vegans themselves. Dairy farmers have it easier.
Yeah, sure, it's probably hard for them to hear their mothers constantly moo for their babies, but they get over it and the calves are bottle fed so they survive. Oh and it's probably actually safer for the calves and this video will explain why. Plus milk is healthy for humans. If it wasn't for meat and potatoes though I probably would die because I couldn't survive on fruits and vegetables alone. I don't like nor eat that many.
This deserves a response that is not rushed, so I'm going to get back to it a little later. I haven't eaten yet today and I have some other stuff I gotta do, but I will be back.
The thread is about animal cruelty. Not veganism.
The thread owner didn't bring that up she only responded to the derail from responding posters. I eat meat (chicken) and I still support animal rescue. In this case, I am 100 percent on buttercup's side. She opened this thread with the intent to discuss animal cruelty laws. Anyone implying differently is changing the direction and tone of the thread. She responded to that.I know, but since it's been brought up and it can go together I don't think that it's too off topic. Plus, I'm curious what kind of response that buttercup has got for me.
The thread owner didn't bring that up she only responded to the derail from responding posters. I eat meat (chicken) and I still support animal rescue. In this case, I am 100 percent on buttercup's side. She opened this thread with the intent to discuss animal cruelty laws. Anyone implying differently is changing the direction and tone of the thread. She responded to that.
I think it is a difficult question to answer.I agree. But this thread is not really about saving dogs from a hot car. I just used that as an example to show what the idea of 'the right to rescue' basically boils down to. Of course I fully expect that most people will see that situation as a different matter... but that's why I posted this thread, to provoke thought and see what people have to say about this topic. Thanks.
YouTube is notorious for allowing this, I was looking for monkey videos to learn about their behavior and they full of grotesquely abusive videos with baby monkeys!Yes, I support the right to rescue. Indonesia has no animal cruelty laws. I have reported a sadistic monkey torturer on youtube for months and they won't take his videos down even one where he is molesting a baby monkey.
Yes well, my hens are all debating if their eggs have rights over a bottle of chardonnay , the goats are voting Dem despite the fact they'll probably be eaten by them, the dogs keep howling where's the beef, the cats don't care, and the pigs will be leading the revolt any day nowThe thread is built on lies;
You don't even want to know how bad it is. I wish I could find an address to write some authority in Indonesia about it. I don't know what else to do.YouTube is notorious for allowing this, I was looking for monkey videos to learn about their behavior and they full of grotesquely abusive videos with baby monkeys!
I do not read her intention that way at all.That's the deception on which this fraudulent thread is built—to hide the true PETA/vegan agenda behind a fake veneer of anti-cruelty.
I do not read her intention that way at all.
You can try, but they won't care. "We," as Americans barely do. Better to try to get evil Google/YouTube to take down animal abuse videosYou don't even want to know how bad it is. I wish I could find an address to write some authority in Indonesia about it. I don't know what else to do.
