The Republican War On Women

[BDBoop]

I have yet to see women launch a campaign against men's reproductive healthcare.

Actually, I believe somebody did launch a sauce-goose/gander moment, but can't remember who right now.

It's none of their business. None of it. I don't know why so much legislation has been introduced in the past year regarding all things having to do with women's reproductive rights, but it's really making them look unhinged.

Just some retaliatory Viagra-type legislation, which didn't go anywhere is all I'm aware of.

Yup, that's the one.

If they are going to attempt to legislate morality, it should be across the boards. Women don't get pregnant all by their lonesome.

 

[Listening]

Actually, I believe somebody did launch a sauce-goose/gander moment, but can't remember who right now.

It's none of their business. None of it. I don't know why so much legislation has been introduced in the past year regarding all things having to do with women's reproductive rights, but it's really making them look unhinged.

Just some retaliatory Viagra-type legislation, which didn't go anywhere is all I'm aware of.

Yup, that's the one.

If they are going to attempt to legislate morality, it should be across the boards. Women don't get pregnant all by their lonesome.

While I am against legislating morality, I think we've let men avoid the consequences of getting women pregnant for way to long.

If a guy gets his girlfriend (or two or three of them) pregnant....he had better be prepared to pay a whole lot of child support.

 

[Lakhota]

I'm a guy, but I think some of those Viagra commercials are really creepy - almost predator-like. The guy in that black Camaro is spooky.

 

[Lakhota]

Just some retaliatory Viagra-type legislation, which didn't go anywhere is all I'm aware of.

Yup, that's the one.

If they are going to attempt to legislate morality, it should be across the boards. Women don't get pregnant all by their lonesome.

While I am against legislating morality, I think we've let men avoid the consequences of getting women pregnant for way to long.

If a guy gets his girlfriend (or two or three of them) pregnant....he had better be prepared to pay a whole lot of child support.

What if those pregnant women choose other options?

 

[thereisnospoon]

The fact is, we women can't have it both ways. If we want to be treated equally with the men, we have to be willing to stand on our own two feet, pay our own way, and do what the men are willing to do. We can't on one hand says that because we are women we are entitled to this or that or others should take care of whatever are our needs as women or we have to have special consideration as women and then complain when we think we are treated differently.

Very well said.

That's why women are fighting to keep Republicans out of their privates.

Oh please..

 

[thereisnospoon]

Yup, that's the one.

If they are going to attempt to legislate morality, it should be across the boards. Women don't get pregnant all by their lonesome.

While I am against legislating morality, I think we've let men avoid the consequences of getting women pregnant for way to long.

If a guy gets his girlfriend (or two or three of them) pregnant....he had better be prepared to pay a whole lot of child support.

What if those pregnant women choose other options?

Here in lies the dilemma. While women have made great strides in what some call "reproductive freedom", at the end of the day the one party which had a great deal to do with the reproduction is shut out of the equation. A classic case of having both ways.
Women want the freedom to choose. They want to be treated equally under the law. Yet, when the decision to abort a baby comes up suddenly the woman wants to be treated "more equal"...
This is another reason why the SCOTUS opinion in Roe v Wade was a very poor outcome.
Not only were the rights of the unborn crushed, so were the rights of the father.

 

[Lakhota]

The male level of effort in bringing a child into this world is minimal compared to the female effort and long-term consequences.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The male level of effort in bringing a child into this world is minimal compared to the female effort and long-term consequences.

Equal protection under the law must apply to everyone or it means nothing at all.
Please spare me the "pregnancy is a condition" bullshit.
My wife worked until one week before our son was born..Because SHE WANTED TO. And it is HER RIGHT

 

[Lakhota]

The male level of effort in bringing a child into this world is minimal compared to the female effort and long-term consequences.

Equal protection under the law must apply to everyone or it means nothing at all.
Please spare me the "pregnancy is a condition" bullshit.
My wife worked until one week before our son was born..Because SHE WANTED TO. And it is HER RIGHT

Good for her. She made a choice...

 

[Listening]

The male level of effort in bringing a child into this world is minimal compared to the female effort and long-term consequences.

Equal protection under the law must apply to everyone or it means nothing at all.
Please spare me the "pregnancy is a condition" bullshit.
My wife worked until one week before our son was born..Because SHE WANTED TO. And it is HER RIGHT

Bang on......

This segragationalist crap is really nothinig more than self-centered whining.

 

[Listening]

The male level of effort in bringing a child into this world is minimal compared to the female effort and long-term consequences.

Spoken like someone who has never had to care for a wife/significant other who was laid up in bed for three months prior to delivery.

 

[BDBoop]

The male level of effort in bringing a child into this world is minimal compared to the female effort and long-term consequences.

Spoken like someone who has never had to care for a wife/significant other who was laid up in bed for three months prior to delivery.

And that happens every pregnancy, right? So she was laying there, in danger of death, with her body organs all smooshed out of place, carrying a complete drain on her personal resources - and you were 'caring for her.'

Excellent comparison.

 

[saveliberty]

The male level of effort in bringing a child into this world is minimal compared to the female effort and long-term consequences.

Spoken like someone who has never had to care for a wife/significant other who was laid up in bed for three months prior to delivery.

And that happens every pregnancy, right? So she was laying there, in danger of death, with her body organs all smooshed out of place, carrying a complete drain on her personal resources - and you were 'caring for her.'

Excellent comparison.

That what women think? That all men and children owe them because of birthing them? Where's the love? What happened to equality?

 

[BDBoop]

Spoken like someone who has never had to care for a wife/significant other who was laid up in bed for three months prior to delivery.

And that happens every pregnancy, right? So she was laying there, in danger of death, with her body organs all smooshed out of place, carrying a complete drain on her personal resources - and you were 'caring for her.'

Excellent comparison.

That what women think? That all men and children owe them because of birthing them? Where's the love? What happened to equality?

How on earth did you get from what I said to what you said?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Cigar anyone?

 

[Foxfyre]

I have yet to see women launch a campaign against men's reproductive healthcare.

But maybe you aren't old enough to remember the days of militant feminism when a guy having a sexy pin up in his own private cubicle was blasted for sexual harrassment; when the undertones were that men were not necessary, and that men should take back seats to women to make up for past sins, etc. And to this day it is dangerous for a male boss to compliment a female employee on her appearance. All utter absurdities.

But again us women cannot have it both ways. We cannot demand special accommodations or protections for us as women who want to be homemakers and competent mothers and at the same time demand equal pay and promotion opportunities with men who can give full attention and energy to the job. If we choose a full time, unrestricted career then good. We have every right to compete on equal footing. If we choose the equally noble career of being homemaker and mother, that's fine too. We should be applauded. And if we are not superwomen and choose to combine both, we have chosen to advance more slowly than our counterparts who can devote full time and energy to the effort.

But we live in a great country in which the choice is ours.

It is not a war on women to treat them as equals instead of fragile and incapable beings who must have men and government taking care of their every need.

 

[BDBoop]

Yes, I am that old. And yes; the men were wrong, it made some women uncomfortable and it was unprofessional.

As to the rest? Nice spin. I'm surprised you don't fall over in a heap of the dizzies.

 

[jillian]

The male level of effort in bringing a child into this world is minimal compared to the female effort and long-term consequences.

Equal protection under the law must apply to everyone or it means nothing at all.
Please spare me the "pregnancy is a condition" bullshit.
My wife worked until one week before our son was born..Because SHE WANTED TO. And it is HER RIGHT

i worked until 3 days after my due date and took the subway to work until that day. my son was born 4 days later.

i'm just not sure what your response has to do with her post.

 

[jillian]

I have yet to see women launch a campaign against men's reproductive healthcare.

But maybe you aren't old enough to remember the days of militant feminism when a guy having a sexy pin up in his own private cubicle was blasted for sexual harrassment; when the undertones were that men were not necessary, and that men should take back seats to women to make up for past sins, etc. And to this day it is dangerous for a male boss to compliment a female employee on her appearance. All utter absurdities.

But again us women cannot have it both ways. We cannot demand special accommodations or protections for us as women who want to be homemakers and competent mothers and at the same time demand equal pay and promotion opportunities with men who can give full attention and energy to the job. If we choose a full time, unrestricted career then good. We have every right to compete on equal footing. If we choose the equally noble career of being homemaker and mother, that's fine too. We should be applauded. And if we are not superwomen and choose to combine both, we have chosen to advance more slowly than our counterparts who can devote full time and energy to the effort.

But we live in a great country in which the choice is ours.

It is not a war on women to treat them as equals instead of fragile and incapable beings who must have men and government taking care of their every need.

there shouldn't be sexy pin-ups in men's cubicles at work. it's an office, not a locker room. and women in the workplace shouldn't be made uncomfortable being there.

but i suppose we could move backwards as a society like the reactionaries want us to. heck, those days where men smoked cigars at work and had sexy pictures up and didn't have to work near blacks...

dems da days, right?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Yes, I am that old. And yes; the men were wrong, it made some women uncomfortable and it was unprofessional.

As to the rest? Nice spin. I'm surprised you don't fall over in a heap of the dizzies.

If men admiring a sexy woman makes some women uncomfortable I'd say those women have issues of their own. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Because some see themselves as less than attractive I'm suddenly guilty?