The Republican question of “what is a woman?”

Billy000

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I have to hand it to republicans on this one. Nothing else gets woke liberals studdering more. It’s a basic question and they have trouble answering it. Republicans milk that effect for all it’s worth, but sure, they rightfully feel “correct”.

Here’s the thing though:

1) Not every liberal agrees with the woke left on this narrative about gender. A lot of us agree that people are born as they are and biologically there is no changing it.

2) However, given the logic of point number 1, it doesn’t somehow excuse the dehumanization of the transgender population. They are still people and they deserve as much as respect as anyone else. Republicans often think it is “gross” or “weird” to them so they try to dehumanize them as much as possible. They can’t accept that what makes us human is often pretty complicated and they don’t need to have any natural empathy for it.

3) “Gender” has a varied definition that sets it apart from “sex”. While these terms can be used interchangeably, there is a variation of the word of the word “gender” that is defined purely psychologically. “Gender” can be defined as a social construct. Someone might naturally reject any psychological norms that often defines their sex. They may feel, for whatever reason, they are not the sex they are born with. One might argue with this position all day long, but the reality is that is how they feel regardless of whether or not you and I think it is based in biology. When it comes to mental disorders, it is no longer considered a mental disorder in the DSM. When it was, it was called “gender identity disorder”. Even when this was a considered a disorder, it was defined by the mental distress it caused in the person with it. It wasn’t defined by how others saw it. A mental disorder can only be defined as something that harms the person with it or causes harm to the people around them. If you think this causes psychological harm to people around them, you are willfully ignorant.
 
Words have gender ... if a fella dresses as a woman, would you use "he" or "she"? ... or "it" ... other languages have more intrusive gender rules, like have ALL nouns have gender ... and then there's languages like Latin that delineate by gender, case, tense and time ...

Us English speakers have it easy ...

Oh ... sure ... thanks for the acknowledgement that some liberals think a woman is someone with two X-Chromosomes in each of her cells ... period ... and I mean that both ways ...
 
A mental disorder can only be defined as something that harms the person with it or causes harm to the people around them. If you think this causes psychological harm to people around them, you are willfully ignorant.

Glad you cleared that up.

Now leave other people's kids alone and stop teaching them this harmful fantasy that they can change their sex.
 
I have to hand it to republicans on this one. Nothing else gets woke liberals studdering more. It’s a basic question and they have trouble answering it. Republicans milk that effect for all it’s worth, but sure, they rightfully feel “correct”.

Here’s the thing though:

1) Not every liberal agrees with the woke left on this narrative about gender. A lot of us agree that people are born as they are and biologically there is no changing it.

2) However, given the logic of point number 1, it doesn’t somehow excuse the dehumanization of the transgender population. They are still people and they deserve as much as respect as anyone else. Republicans often think it is “gross” or “weird” to them so they try to dehumanize them as much as possible. They can’t accept that what makes us human is often pretty complicated and they don’t need to have any natural empathy for it.

3) “Gender” has a varied definition that sets it apart from “sex”. While these terms can be used interchangeably, there is a variation of the word of the word “gender” that is defined purely psychologically. “Gender” can be defined as a social construct. Someone might naturally reject any psychological norms that often defines their sex. They may feel, for whatever reason, they are not the sex they are born with. One might argue with this position all day long, but the reality is that is how they feel regardless of whether or not you and I think it is based in biology. When it comes to mental disorders, it is no longer considered a mental disorder in the DSM. When it was, it was called “gender identity disorder”. Even when this was a considered a disorder, it was defined by the mental distress it caused in the person with it. It wasn’t defined by how others saw it. A mental disorder can only be defined as something that harms the person with it or causes harm to the people around them. If you think this causes psychological harm to people around them, you are willfully ignorant.


"If you think this causes psychological harm to people around them, you are willfully ignorant."



This is where you are wrong, and I don't believe you know what you are talking about. I studied critical theory and post-modern thought at University. It is not always pretty, the conclusions which are wrought.

While there is nothing wrong, inherently, with being gay, lesbian, or bi, the post-modern critical theorists, have taken up the queer cause, and politicized it. Which, I don't know if you are buying into this, out of stupidity, because you tend to be a useful idiot, or if you are being a partisan tool, for you, like others on the right tend, to consume too much of your preferred agitprop., but the the fact of the matter is, this is a line which educated liberals will not even cross.

Queer Theorists, BY THEIR OWN WORDS, like luminaries Gayle Rubin & Michel Foucault have defended pedophilia, and lobbied for the end of age of consent laws.

This is why we see drag shows in elementary school, and the teaching of queer theory to kids that have no sexual identity yet. It is a subversion of the culture. There is an agenda behind it as well, to be sure.




I have posted information from the left, and the right, so folks can make up their own minds, but here is the paper, and a video where a critic reads from the paper for you, where queer theorists, ENDORSE PEDOPHILIA;

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Understand the politics you are using, and where it leads, before you allow yourself to destroy innocence, or even accuse others of being, "willfully ignorant."
 
Glad you cleared that up.

Now leave other people's kids alone and stop teaching them this harmful fantasy that they can change their sex.
So who, exactly, is teaching kids about the nuances of transgenderism?
 
"If you think this causes psychological harm to people around them, you are willfully ignorant."


This is where you are wrong, and I don't believe you know what you are talking about. I studied critical theory and post-modern thought at University. It is not always pretty, the conclusions which are wrought.

While there is nothing wrong, inherently, with being gay, lesbian, or bi, the post-modern critical theorists, have taken up the queer cause, and politicized it. Which, I don't know if you are buying into this, out of stupidity, because you tend to be a useful idiot, or if you are being a partisan tool, for you, like others on the right tend, to consume too much of your preferred agitprop., but the the fact of the matter is, this is a line which educated liberals will not even cross.

Queer Theorists, BY THEIR OWN WORDS, like luminaries Gayle Rubin & Michel Foucault have defended pedophilia, and lobbied for the end of age of consent laws.

This is why we see drag shows in elementary school, and the teaching of queer theory to kids that have no sexual identity yet. It is a subversion of the culture. There is an agenda behind it as well, to be sure.




I have posted information from the left, and the right, so folks can make up their own minds, but here is the paper, and a video where a critic reads from the paper for you, where queer theorists, ENDORSE PEDOPHILIA;

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Understand the politics you are using, and where it leads, before you allow yourself to destroy innocence, or even accuse others of being, "willfully ignorant."

Hear me do me this favor: summarize the links you posted. Summarize for me that transgendered people have a psychological harm on children. Your sources are too broad to read. Let’s start with that. Show me the text within that says transgendered adults being around kids harms their psychological development.
 
Words have gender ... if a fella dresses as a woman, would you use "he" or "she"? ... or "it" ... other languages have more intrusive gender rules, like have ALL nouns have gender ... and then there's languages like Latin that delineate by gender, case, tense and time ...

Us English speakers have it easy ...

Oh ... sure ... thanks for the acknowledgement that some liberals think a woman is someone with two X-Chromosomes in each of her cells ... period ... and I mean that both ways ...
Yeah but the science you care about is what fits your childish worldview. Something as settled as climate change is something you ignore because republicans told you to.
 
The puberty blockers seem to be improving your clarity, Billy.

Who woulda known?
Can you just admit that you don’t actually give a shit about kids? Kids face abuse and neglect in many different ways but your 8th grader dumbass only cares about the “gross” gender and gay stuff. That means you simply use kids as an excuse to whine about that shit. You’re a fucking dumbass. You don’t give two shits about kids. If you did, your political philosophy would reflect it outside of identity politics.
 
Hear me do me this favor: summarize the links you posted. Summarize for me that transgendered people have a psychological harm on children. Your sources are too broad to read. Let’s start with that. Show me the text within that says transgendered adults being around kids harms their psychological development.
It isn't that simple.

This topic can't be reduced to a twitter exchange, or a vine video, sorry.

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If this was what the extreme left was bitching about, and found acceptable, and was equivocating about back in the late 70's, early 80's, I shudder to think what the hell is going on now. I mean, wtf, a noted intellectual and professor defending NAMBLA? This is the origins of queer theory?

Yes, really, the founder of queer theory was, here, explicitly defending the possession of nude photos of children and video of their sexual activity, on purely "scientific grounds," as if there is any. . . still. . . what disingenuous horseshit.




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It isn't that simple.

This topic can't be reduced to a twitter exchange, or a vine video, sorry.
Well see all im asking you is to summarize those articles in their own words. Im asking you to describe the RESEARCH that shows transgendered people simply being around children is harmful to them.

Didn’t you read the articles?
 
Can you just admit that you don’t actually give a shit about kids? Kids face abuse and neglect in many different ways but your 8th grader dumbass only cares about the “gross” gender and gay stuff. That means you simply use kids as an excuse to whine about that shit. You’re a fucking dumbass. You don’t give two shits about kids. If you did, your political philosophy would reflect it outside of identity politics.
My goodness.

Perhaps you achieved puberty after all!
 
Are you always like this, or are there times when you are less impassioned by the puberty you are just entering?
See you can say whatever you want about me or my hormones or whatever. It won’t change who YOU are. You’re fucking stupid. The most important political issue to you is is something as ultimately insignificant as identify politics. That makes you pathetic. You’re a pawn.
 
See you can say whatever you want about me or my hormones or whatever. It won’t change who YOU are. You’re fucking stupid. The most important political issue to you is is something as ultimately insignificant as identify politics. That makes you pathetic. You’re a pawn.
How do you make a hormone?



anybody?



Anybody?




Ferris?
 

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