The Reality that Racists Who Are White Refuse to Face

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Documenting the Costs of Slavery, Segregation, and Contemporary Racism: Why Reparations Are in Order for African Americans
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Joe Richard Feagin is an American sociologist and social theorist who has conducted extensive research on racial and gender issues, especially in regard to the United States. He is currently the Ella C. McFadden Distinguished Professor at Texas A&M University. Feagin has taught at the University of Massachusetts, Boston, University of California, Riverside, University of Texas at Austin, University of Florida, and Texas A&M University. Feagin has done much research work on race and ethnic relations and has served as the scholar in residence at the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. He has written over 60 books. He is the 2006 recipient of a Harvard Alumni Association achievement award and was the 1999–2000 president of the American Sociological Association.

Since the mid-1600s, now for some fifteen generations or so, the exploitation and oppression of African Americans has redistributed income and wealth earned by black labor to generations of white Americans, thereby leaving the former relatively impoverished as a group and the latter relatively privileged as a group. Consider just the value of the African American labor that was expropriated. The white owner’s cost for maintaining an enslaved African American was generally very low, and under many circumstances large profits could be generated from the labor of such a subordinated worker. For example, researcher Larry Neal has calculated that the current (1983) value of the slave labor expropriated by whites from 1620 to 1865 ranges from about $963 billion to as much as $97,064 billion, depending on the rate of interest chosen for the long intervening period. Historical economist James Marketti estimates the dollar value of the labor taken from enslaved African Americans from 1790 to 1860 to be, depending on the historical assumptions, from $7 billion to as much as $40 billion. Such a figure roughly indicates what black individuals and families lost in income because they did not control their labor. Marketti suggests that, if that stolen income is multiplied by taking into account lost interest from then to the present, the current (1983) economic loss (income diverted) for black Americans ranges from $2.1 to $4.7 trillion. Updating these 1983 estimates to today would place the current value of the diverted income from black labor, plus interest, into many trillions of United States dollars.

Numerous white analysts have attacked the idea of white society owing such back wages for slavery; they argue that figuring out the debts of a supposedly too-distant history is just too difficult. Yet such an argument almost always fails to note that the damages done to African Americans did not end with slavery, but persisted for another one hundred years in the form of legal segregation, and then for several more decades in present-day discrimination. The era of black enslavement was not followed by a century of redress, justice, and equality, but rather just the opposite. Moreover, today, there are millions of living African Americans who suffered severely under legal segregation, and many more continue to suffer today from racial discrimination at the hands of many white Americans.

https://harvardblackletter.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2016/10/20-JREJ-49.pdf

Of course I will see the standard retardation by delusional racist whites and those who wannabe white about democrats and liberals, but this is reality and if you have to concoct some crazy shit to deny what is documented in the American record, your ass is a mental case needing to take up residency at your nearest funny farm.

 

[BackAgain]

You've exposed nothing.

Except you. As the racist you are.

 

[MizMolly]

Molly is ignorant. Just like you.

I’m not the smartest person in the world, but I got you beat by a landslide.

 

[IM2]

This isn’t 1935

Your reply is evidence of your stupidity. If you read this instead of looking for something to make an excuse to justify your racism, you will see that what was written explains that white women with children without a man at home have been getting welfare since 1935 and white women without a man at home got welfare exclusively from 1935 until 1965 if you don't count the assistance they received from the childrens bureau that started in 1910.

 

[IM2]

Except you. As the racist you are.

You have exposed nothing. You use the standard white racist tactic of calling me a racist for speaking the truth.

 

[IM2]

We will get reparations.

 

[BackAgain]

You have exposed nothing. You use the standard white racist tactic of calling me a racist for speaking the truth.

It’s not the truth you speak. And you clearly are a racist.

 

[IM2]

It’s not the truth you speak. And you clearly are a racist.

You can't factually dispute anything I have said.

All you can do is try that tired ass tactic of calling me a racist. Your claim falls short when there are whites here who agree with things I have said.

 

[BackAgain]

Hey i’m.2: you refer to “white racists.” The implication is that you see the need for the adjective. Therefore, you apparently recognize that there are black racists, too.

You’re one of them.

 

[BackAgain]

You can't factually dispute anything I have said.

All you can do is try that tired ass tactic of calling me a racist. Your claim falls short when there are whites here who agree with things I have said.

I dispute all racists. That some white people accept your lunacy is no proof of the rectitude of anything you spew. You’re just a common bigot.

 

[MizMolly]

Your reply is evidence of your stupidity. If you read this instead of looking for something to make an excuse to justify your racism, you will see that what was written explains that white women with children without a man at home have been getting welfare since 1935 and white women without a man at home got welfare exclusively from 1935 until 1965 if you don't count the assistance they received from the childrens bureau that started in 1910.

This isn’t 1910, or 1935 or 1965. Your stupidity is very apparent.

 

[MizMolly]

Your reply is evidence of your stupidity. If you read this instead of looking for something to make an excuse to justify your racism, you will see that what was written explains that white women with children without a man at home have been getting welfare since 1935 and white women without a man at home got welfare exclusively from 1935 until 1965 if you don't count the assistance they received from the childrens bureau that started in 1910.

By the way, where did I say or imply anything racist?

 

[Orangecat]

Whiny bitch racial thread number... what..500? Yawn.

 

[BackAgain]

The government of this country owes us dumb ass. This is always where you stupids fail. Read this real close because slavery is not the only reason for reparations. Your ancestors left Europe and they are white. So they benefitted from being white. Read this and learn that your argument has no merit.

"Numerous white analysts have attacked the idea of white society owing such back wages for slavery; they argue that figuring out the debts of a supposedly too-distant history is just too difficult. Yet such an argument almost always fails to note that the damages done to African Americans did not end with slavery, but persisted for another one hundred years in the form of legal segregation, and then for several more decades in present-day discrimination. The era of black enslavement was not followed by a century of redress, justice, and equality, but rather just the opposite. Moreover, today, there are millions of living African Americans who suffered severely under legal segregation, and many more continue to suffer today from racial discrimination at the hands of many white Americans."

Those like you don't want to discuss the years after slavery. And I don't think you want to face a man who has had relatives lynched, spit on and beaten by whites. So I will walk up to your face and talk about reparations and we will have a discussion or you can walk away.

Try this one. Just as my ancestors didn’t hold slaves and so their descendants don’t owe descendants of slaves :: so too, my ancestors didn’t do anything to your ancestors and so we don’t owe you anything for any wrongs done to your ancestors.

Wrongs have been righted. But we don’t punish descendants for any sins of their forebears. Your claim for reparations is built on thin air. Application denied.

 

[BackAgain]

You know nothing about reality. If facts don't confirm your bias you dismiss them.

Someday try an experiment. Try stating an actual fact.

in the interim, I do dismiss your opinions.

 

[Orangecat]

You can't expose whats not there.

So we should give up on trying to have an intellectual conversation with you?

 

[Orangecat]

We will get reparations.

You already do: free education for 12 years. Not the white man's fault that your culture throws that key to success in the garbage.

 

[IM2]

Try this one. Just as my ancestors didn’t hold slaves and so their descendants don’t owe descendants of slaves :: so too, my ancestors didn’t do anything to your ancestors and so we don’t owe you anything for any wrongs done to your ancestors.

Wrongs have been righted. But we don’t punish descendants for any sins of their forebears. Your claim for reparations is built on thin air. Application denied.

That excuse don't flush when government policies allowed your ancestors things we could not have and some of it was paid for with money blacks put in the pot. Nothing has been righted until the damage has been fixed. My claim of reparations is built on a solid case and you don't have the authority to deny it.

 

[IM2]

Someday try an experiment. Try stating an actual fact.

in the interim, I do dismiss your opinions.

I do all the time.

 

[IM2]

So we should give up on trying to have an intellectual conversation with you?

You have shown over these years that you aren't capable of that.