The Real Reason Why Musk Tried To Tank The Spending Bill And The Looming MAGA Civil War

[postman]

Much of it driven by you dimtards wanting to pay the dregs for sitting home during the fake leftyvirus. Another fact you doofuses ignore.

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Coronavirus Cases: 704,753,890 ;
Deaths: 7,010,681

Hardly what I would call "fake"

 

[skews13]

I fear that you have said stuff that the maga herd doesnt want to hear. Are there enough fiscal conservatives to block trumpys welfare for billionaires ?

What they don't want to hear is he is only relevant as a second term President, for his first 2 years. After that he is a lame duck, that Republicans will no longer have to support, as they will still be around, and have to run for reelection.

Just like George W Bush, they will not only be running away from him, but deny they even know who he is. The maga faithful will no longer have a daddy figure to tell them how to think, and will be lost in the wilderness, as the billionaires look to protect their own interests.

These are the dumbest mofo's on the planet, but it's where we are.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The real reason that Musk attempted to tank the spending bill last week was actually exponentially more important to Musk, Trump, and MAGA’s agenda for Trump’s 2nd term in office. Trump gave a massive tax break to billionaires when he was first President, as everyone infamously remembers. This tax break expires in 2025, which means that Trump is going to need to shove through a renewal of this tax break in 2025.

What this means for Trump and the RNC is that this tax-break renewal is going to consume a massive amount of Trump’s political capital during his first 100 days — “political capital” being Trump’s ability to influence Congressional political decisions. Let’s not forget that Trump’s first term in office added somewhere around $8 trillion to the national debt, the most debt added by any single President in history — by trillions.

At the same time, Trump is going to want the means to be able to start mass deportations. This requires, you guessed it, even more money and more debt. Mind you, the mass deportations that Trump is talking about would cost anywhere from the tens to hundreds of billions to accomplish (depending on which economist you ask), and in the long term would cost the economy trillions in debt as well (from the loss of tax revenue and workers).

And then there’s Trump tariffs. The cost of the tariffs speak for themselves.

So, if you are Trump/Musk, how do you overcome the problem of all the debt that will be accrued with these stupid policies? Easy.

Just get rid of the debt ceiling!

Et voila, your debt problems are no more!

And that is exactly what Musk and Trump proposed. In the “new” spending bill that Musk pushed for, one of the caveats was that Congress would eliminate the debt ceiling entirely. For Musk and Trump, removing the debt ceiling by killing the spending bill was the easiest way that they could get a “blank check” for their respective agendas come 2025.

The Real Reason Musk Tried to Tank the Spending Bill and the Looming MAGA Civil War

No, it had nothing to do with revenge pornography. The real reason that Musk attempted to tank the spending bill last week was actually exponentially more important to Musk, Trump, and MAGA’s agenda for Trump’s 2nd term in office. Trump gave a massive...

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Let’s not forget that Trump’s first term in office added somewhere around $8 trillion to the national debt, the most debt added by any single President in history — by trillions.

Trump added $7.8 trillion. Biden added $8.4 trillion and counting.

 

[justoffal]

Fact-free reporting there!
Pure conjecture.
Nice link, DailyCommieThoughts.

It's amazing how airy and light the information sloggage gets when it is unburdened by facts no? The sentences just flow together so smoothly and willingly. Why bother proving anything when it's so time consuming and may not go where you want it to?

 

[Auld Phart]

The real reason that Musk attempted to tank the spending bill last week was actually exponentially more important to Musk, Trump, and MAGA’s agenda for Trump’s 2nd term in office. Trump gave a massive tax break to billionaires when he was first President, as everyone infamously remembers. This tax break expires in 2025, which means that Trump is going to need to shove through a renewal of this tax break in 2025.

What this means for Trump and the RNC is that this tax-break renewal is going to consume a massive amount of Trump’s political capital during his first 100 days — “political capital” being Trump’s ability to influence Congressional political decisions. Let’s not forget that Trump’s first term in office added somewhere around $8 trillion to the national debt, the most debt added by any single President in history — by trillions.

At the same time, Trump is going to want the means to be able to start mass deportations. This requires, you guessed it, even more money and more debt. Mind you, the mass deportations that Trump is talking about would cost anywhere from the tens to hundreds of billions to accomplish (depending on which economist you ask), and in the long term would cost the economy trillions in debt as well (from the loss of tax revenue and workers).

And then there’s Trump tariffs. The cost of the tariffs speak for themselves.

So, if you are Trump/Musk, how do you overcome the problem of all the debt that will be accrued with these stupid policies? Easy.

Just get rid of the debt ceiling!

Et voila, your debt problems are no more!

And that is exactly what Musk and Trump proposed. In the “new” spending bill that Musk pushed for, one of the caveats was that Congress would eliminate the debt ceiling entirely. For Musk and Trump, removing the debt ceiling by killing the spending bill was the easiest way that they could get a “blank check” for their respective agendas come 2025.

The Real Reason Musk Tried to Tank the Spending Bill and the Looming MAGA Civil War

No, it had nothing to do with revenge pornography. The real reason that Musk attempted to tank the spending bill last week was actually exponentially more important to Musk, Trump, and MAGA’s agenda for Trump’s 2nd term in office. Trump gave a massive...

www.dailykos.com

Get ready for higher prices, and a world of unimaginable stupid.

Happy Holidays

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bet it really pisses you off that by the time Trump takes office, Biden will have added more than Trump did.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

bet it really pisses you off that by the time Trump takes office, Biden will have added more than Trump did.

It doesn't piss you off?

 

[Hum Dinger]

As long as manufacturing is returning (reshoring) give the billionaire's their tax break. They need it to build factories here.

Do you really think that anyone is going to invest in manufacturing knowing that it will only be viable because of huge tariffs?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Do you really think that anyone is going to invest in manufacturing knowing that it will only be viable because of huge tariffs?

Viable manufacturing is always better than non-viable manufacturing.

 

[Auld Phart]

It doesn't piss you off?

seeing someone claim that Trump is responsible higher debt than any other president?

of course it does.

because it's a lie.

I think both Biden, Trump and every member in congress in the years debt went up should sell off everything they own and donate the proceeds to pay down the debt.

It won't affect the debt itself much, but it MAY teach them to be more responsible.

 

[Hum Dinger]

Viable manufacturing is always better than non-viable manufacturing.

Certainly, but when viability is dependent of tariffs, it is not viable.

 

[Woodznutz]

Certainly, but when viability is dependent of tariffs, it is not viable.

Companies are returning for other reasons as well.

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[skews13]

Viable manufacturing is always better than non-viable manufacturing.

Yep. Which is why Biden got the Foxconn deal done, when Trump couldn't.

 

[Woodznutz]

The problem is manufacturing isn't returning. Tesla still uses China to make EV batteries.

The Resurgence of U.S. Manufacturing: A New Era of Onshoring

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blog.managementcontrols.com

 

[Orangecat]

Fact-free reporting there!
Pure conjecture.
Nice link, DailyCommieThoughts.

Just another dire “you’re gonna regret it” thread from the loser cult.

 

[skews13]

bet it really pisses you off that by the time Trump takes office, Biden will have added more than Trump did.

Bet it really pisses you off Biden got an infrastructure deal done, and Trump didn't.

So how much of the infrastructure money that came to your state, creating jobs in your state, did your Republican reps try to take credit for, after voting against it?

Have you called your reps yet, and told them you demand they give that money back?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

seeing someone claim that Trump is responsible higher debt than any other president?

of course it does.

because it's a lie.

I think both Biden, Trump and every member in congress in the years debt went up should sell off everything they own and donate the proceeds to pay down the debt.

It won't affect the debt itself much, but it MAY teach them to be more responsible.

I don't disagree. This is a war of partisan hyperbole, so picking a side is very important.

 

[Mac1958]

Coronavirus Cases: 704,753,890 ;
Deaths: 7,010,681
Hardly what I would call "fake"

They've been told not to believe any of it. Or the scenes in packed hospitals, or the interviews with exhausted doctors and nurses, or the stories of people who had loved ones suffer and die from it, or the official death reports, or anything else.

It just didn't exist in their reality, other than as material to feed their paranoid conspiracy theories. They have their reality, the rest of the country and world have ours.

 

[Auld Phart]

Bet it really pisses you off Biden got an infrastructure deal done, and Trump didn't.

So how much of the infrastructure money that came to your state, creating jobs in your state, did your Republican reps try to take credit for, after voting against it?

Have you called your reps yet, and told them you demand they give that money back?

I don't give a damn what they spent it on, they spent far more than they should have.

they've been doing it for decades., with no end in sight.

My reps are Democrats, what do you think their response would be?

 

[postman]

Companies are returning for other reasons as well.

The Resurgence of U.S. Manufacturing: A New Era of Onshoring

Explore the U.S. manufacturing revival & onshoring benefits, driven by policy, innovation, and the need for a resilient supply chain.

blog.managementcontrols.com

Here comes the yeah-but part.

Over the last few years, three significant pieces of legislation have become law:

The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA)
The Creating Helpful Incentives to Produce Semiconductors (CHIPS) and Science Act.
The Inflation Reduction Act (IRA).
Among other things, these legislative acts have spurred U.S. businesses to increase investment in domestic manufacturing. Specifically, industries related to semiconductors, clean energy, and electric vehicles have been targeted.

Yeah-but Bidens programs are the one's bringing back manufacturing.

 

[skews13]

Here comes the yeah-but part.

Over the last few years, three significant pieces of legislation have become law:

The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA)
The Creating Helpful Incentives to Produce Semiconductors (CHIPS) and Science Act.
The Inflation Reduction Act (IRA).
Among other things, these legislative acts have spurred U.S. businesses to increase investment in domestic manufacturing. Specifically, industries related to semiconductors, clean energy, and electric vehicles have been targeted.

Yeah-but Bidens programs are the one's bringing back manufacturing.

Those acts will be growing the economy for the next 20 years.

There are now jobs in red states, that got most of that money, that only have jobs, and recovering economies because of those acts.

Amazing isn't it? Not one single Republican Rep, Governor, or Senator has advocated for giving a dime of that money back, putting their national debt asses where their big mouths are.