Zone1 The Real Reason Jews are hated

[rosends]

I did above.
Your religion is no less hateful and violent than Islam.

No, you quoted a translation of a biblical section about the legal system. I see nothing about hate. Or did you mean something else?

 

[Hafar1014]

No, you quoted a translation of a biblical section about the legal system. I see nothing about hate. Or did you mean something else?

He hates Jews

 

[TNHarley]

He hates Jews

 

[Meriweather]

The they killed Jesus lie The Romans executed him
Jews know there is no original in Genesis which means there is no reason for Jesus to exist as god hes an idol

Your version of Genesis is skewed. We read that through the choices of Adam and Eve death entered the world. Immediately, we think of our own death, but it goes much more deeply than that. It entails the death of hope, of plans, of happiness, of what we build, our studies, of everything we have. Everything dies. Sin or wrong-doing makes us slaves of wrong-doing, and wrong-doing leads results in unhappiness--not necessarily to the sinner, but those sinned against.

I understand you worked with people suffering from depression. Pharmaceuticals rake in millions, perhaps billions, of other people's money selling pills to help with this depression--and it seems for little, even no result.

Perhaps you are aware of the investigative journalist who was out to disprove Jesus, his life, his resurrection. Using the same techniques he used in reporting, those very techniques proved Jesus existed and is who he said he is. There was also a famous trial attorney who holds the record for proving the innocence of those accused of murder. He took up this same challenge to disprove Jesus, but the only conclusion Jesus is who said he is--and his resurrection. I'm betting you avoid all the recent discoveries surrounding the Shroud of Turin, Jesus' burial cloth.

A homily during Holy Week, links Jesus' life to Genesis and death entering the world to this: In our lives, we can give all (as Jesus did)--and all will be taken (as it was with Jesus). And, as with Jesus, all will be restored.

You proclaiming that there is no sin in the world would be ridiculous. If you agree there is sin in the world, it follows there was a first sin, the first act of disobedience, which changed all life in this world. And, sin which was first told of in Genesis, also tells us of God's promise to redeem and save the world.

Last point: While you seem to have no problem with God entering the world in the form of fire that does not consume what is burning, the idea of God, Himself, entering the world in the form of man cannot be fathomed. A man who gave all, had all taken, and was restored (is risen), restoring the world through resurrection, which can only be done through the power of God.

 

[TNHarley]

We read that through the choices of Adam and Eve death entered the world

Did the omniscient one know they would do that?

 

[Hafar1014]

Your version of Genesis is skewed. We read that through the choices of Adam and Eve death entered the world. Immediately, we think of our own death, but it goes much more deeply than that. It entails the death of hope, of plans, of happiness, of what we build, our studies, of everything we have. Everything dies. Sin or wrong-doing makes us slaves of wrong-doing, and wrong-doing leads results in unhappiness--not necessarily to the sinner, but those sinned against.

I understand you worked with people suffering from depression. Pharmaceuticals rake in millions, perhaps billions, of other people's money selling pills to help with this depression--and it seems for little, even no result.

Perhaps you are aware of the investigative journalist who was out to disprove Jesus, his life, his resurrection. Using the same techniques he used in reporting, those very techniques proved Jesus existed and is who he said he is. There was also a famous trial attorney who holds the record for proving the innocence of those accused of murder. He took up this same challenge to disprove Jesus, but the only conclusion Jesus is who said he is--and his resurrection. I'm betting you avoid all the recent discoveries surrounding the Shroud of Turin, Jesus' burial cloth.

A homily during Holy Week, links Jesus' life to Genesis and death entering the world to this: In our lives, we can give all (as Jesus did)--and all will be taken (as it was with Jesus). And, as with Jesus, all will be restored.

You proclaiming that there is no sin in the world would be ridiculous. If you agree there is sin in the world, it follows there was a first sin, the first act of disobedience, which changed all life in this world. And, sin which was first told of in Genesis, also tells us of God's promise to redeem and save the world.

Last point: While you seem to have no problem with God entering the world in the form of fire that does not consume what is burning, the idea of God, Himself, entering the world in the form of man cannot be fathomed. A man who gave all, had all taken, and was restored (is risen), restoring the world through resurrection, which can only be done through the power of God.

If you cant read Hebrew you have no idea what Genesis is about. The true meaning of the allegory completely denies the existence of Jesus as a god There is no original or fall of man and it specifically states the sin of one man cant be expanded to all of humanity. Therefore there is no reason for Jesus to exist since there can be no original sin. Christians invented this to use hell as threat to compel obedience.
The meaning of Genesis is mans development the moral teaching of man and the trial for mans freedom. As result they outgrew Eden the metaphor for childhood.

 

[TNHarley]

it specifically states the sin of one man cant be expanded to all of humanity

Tell that to the babies he slaughtered.

 

[Meriweather]

If you cant read Hebrew you have no idea what Genesis is about. The true meaning of the allegory completely denies the existence of Jesus as a god There is no original or fall of man and it specifically states the sin of one man cant be expanded to all of humanity. Therefore there is no reason for Jesus to exist since there can be no original sin. Christians invented this to use hell as threat to compel obedience.
The meaning of Genesis is mans development the moral teaching of man and the trial for mans freedom. As result they outgrew Eden the metaphor for childhood.

I studied with someone (an atheist) whose first language was Hebrew. That's why I haven't a qualm in stating your interpretation is skewed. There may be rabbis who present your view--but none of the rabbis I have read. From your skewed view of Genesis you continue on to your made-up, well-skewed version of Christianity.

I credit and respect everyone's interpretation of their own religion/faith. It's when they begin attacking and falsifying a religion/faith that is not their own, I begin questioning their security of their own faith/religion. Tearing down another faith/religion tells me they have very little security or confidence in living/believing their own.

 

[Hafar1014]

I studied with someone (an atheist) whose first language was Hebrew. That's why I haven't a qualm in stating your interpretation is skewed. There may be rabbis who present your view--but none of the rabbis I have read. From your skewed view of Genesis you continue on to your made-up, well-skewed version of Christianity.

I credit and respect everyone's interpretation of their own religion/faith. It's when they begin attacking and falsifying a religion/faith that is not their own, I begin questioning their security of their own faith/religion. Tearing down another faith/religion tells me they have very little security or confidence in living/believing their own.

The only reason for hell is to create threat to force obedience. Try and explain how thats not true.
There is no hell in Judaism or a devil. An atheist thats credible. Get real.
The tree the fruit of which contains knowledge of good and evil is intended to be eaten. Thats why its the fruit sweet and tempting. Why didnt good put the knowldege in the roots. Because they were always intended to eat it. Since thats Gods will it cant be a sin to comply with gods will. Explain why its not.
Before Adam ate the fruit he couldnt know what sin was therefore he cant sin.
This is simply common sense.
Since Christians are distorting a Jewish work Jews have every right to correct them.

 

[Meriweather]

The only reason for hell is to create threat to force obedience. Try and explain how thats not true.
There is no hell in Judaism or a devil. An atheist thats credible. Get real.
The tree the fruit of which contains knowledge of good and evil is intended to be eaten. Thats why its the fruit sweet and tempting. Why didnt good put the knowldege in the roots. Because they were always intended to eat it. Since thats Gods will it cant be a sin to comply with gods will. Explain why its not.
Before Adam ate the fruit he couldnt know what sin was therefore he cant sin.
This is simply common sense.
Since Christians are distorting a Jewish work Jews have every right to correct them.

1. Do you believe free will includes the decision to remain apart from God and his ways?
2. You don't believe that truly evil souls may be damned or annihilated and will never reach the next world?
3. Do you believe God encourages disobedience?
4. Do you believe Adam and Eve understood "Don't" to mean "Do it if you like"; that there was no such thing as disobedience?

It is not Christians who are distorting a Jewish work. It is you who are distorting Christianity so that you can TRY to claim Christianity is distorting Jewish work. We are not--at least not the greatest majority of Christianity.

 

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Tell that to the babies he slaughtered.

I'd be shocked if Hafar1014 responded to that comment.

But I have. And you know what my answer is too. The Jews believing God was on their side embellished the narrative of the historical event to show that God was on their side. And that's what you believe too. You just won't admit it.

 

[ding]

Did the omniscient one know they would do that?

Absolutely. But you do realize that Adam and Eve weren't historical people, right?

 

[IM2]

The real reason we are hated

The V’hi She’amdah song should remind us that Hashem allows adversaries to threaten us in order to distance us from them, and subsequently delivers us to inspire us to strengthen our relationship with Him..

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Not even to mention that Catholic Priests spent centuries teaching Jews were responsible for the crucifixion of Jesus.

The bible kinda shows that to be the case.

 

[IM2]

Unlike Islam which does require hate most major religions do not

Wrong.

 

[Hafar1014]

1. Do you believe free will includes the decision to remain apart from God and his ways?
2. You don't believe that truly evil souls may be damned or annihilated and will never reach the next world?
3. Do you believe God encourages disobedience?
4. Do you believe Adam and Eve understood "Don't" to mean "Do it if you like"; that there was no such thing as disobedience?

It is not Christians who are distorting a Jewish work. It is you who are distorting Christianity so that you can TRY to claim Christianity is distorting Jewish work. We are not--at least not the greatest majority of Christianity.

Yes free will means there are atheists.
Every sole returns to the afterlife there is no other place to go. I dont k now what happens to them. Could they be healed I dont know. I have never experienced an evil soul. The ones who have reached out to me all had good intentions
God encourages freedom he doesnt want us to be like ants or bees
The command dont eat the fruit or you will surely die was a test of free will. Disobedience proves there is free will and morals must be taught. Notice He didnt die and when he ate the fruit God said What hast though done. He is giving Adam time to admit what he did. This God the teacher Adam the student. This was Gods plan all along. He intended Adam to eat the fruit thats why its fruit in the first place and not dirt rocks or tree bark

 

[BreezeWood]

Do you feel that there is an institutionalized and codified hatred which is an expression of religious identity? Individual Jews no doubt hate, but there is nothing in their Judaism which requires hatred.

false commandments et al = hatred ... when claimed from the heavens to persecute and victimize the innocent, all false heavenly personifications used by judaism for their own self serving purposes.

 

[Meriweather]

Notice He didnt die and when he ate the fruit God said What hast though done.

Is Adam still alive in this world?

 

[Meriweather]

Yes free will means there are atheists.
Every sole returns to the afterlife there is no other place to go. I dont k now what happens to them. Could they be healed I dont know. I have never experienced an evil soul. The ones who have reached out to me all had good intentions
God encourages freedom he doesnt want us to be like ants or bees
The command dont eat the fruit or you will surely die was a test of free will. Disobedience proves there is free will and morals must be taught. Notice He didnt die and when he ate the fruit God said What hast though done. He is giving Adam time to admit what he did. This God the teacher Adam the student. This was Gods plan all along. He intended Adam to eat the fruit thats why its fruit in the first place and not dirt rocks or tree bark

What say you? Does God want us to use freedom to our benefit or to our destruction? Judaism (or at least sects of Judaism) believe there is reparation in the afterlife (what Catholic came to term as 'purgatory', or purging. They also believe that there will be no afterlife for the truly evil. Catholic belief is that there will be an afterlife of eternal separation from God (what you call hell and you believe to be torture).

 

[BreezeWood]

There are two reason for hatered of Jews.

The they killed Jesus lie The Romans executed him
Jews know there is no original in Genesis which means there is no reason for Jesus to exist as god hes an idol

jesus repudiated judaism, false commandments et al the jews chose murder as their only response to the validity of their concerns to right the course of their false religion.

jesus never claimed a heavenly messiah would ever be made for judaism - 4th century christianity is written by the same crucifiers to misconstrue the 1st century events for their own selfish purposes, messiah is simply a perceived (heavenly) shield used to convince than ever being a true legitimate heavenly possibility.