The Psychology of MAGA

Or you know... it could just be that some of us who like Trump really despise the government and the media.

COVID revealed just how sheepish a lot of humans really are and how despicable government and its lackeys are. Once you see that, there's no turning back. Simply put, I don't trust most people or most institutions, and Trump doesn't seem to trust many institutions either.

Some may call that antisocial, but I'd rather be rude and aware than polite and oblivious.
Well, you're rude and don't live in reality. And I'm being polite.
 
If we were to identify ourselves as MAGA and non-MAGA (which includes Americans across the political spectrum), perhaps we can all agree on one thing:

MAGAs appear to get enjoyment -- real enjoyment -- out of seeing non-MAGAs in some kind of distress over MAGA's actions. They cheer on Trump's constant insults and trolling, JD Vance's attacks on our former European allies, reactions to news of the rapid dismantling of the government, the release of violent Capitol criminals. They celebrate it.

So I got to wondering what this is, from a psychological perspective, and I asked Chat GPT (which is pretty freaking amazing if you haven't tried it) "is there a psychological term for a person who enjoys being disliked?"

Here's what I got:

Yes, there are several psychological concepts that could explain why someone might want to be disliked:
  1. Counterdependency – A defense mechanism where a person deliberately pushes others away or resists attachment, sometimes by behaving in a way that makes them disliked.
  2. Masochistic Personality Traits – Some individuals may have a subconscious desire to create situations where they are rejected or disliked, deriving a sense of validation or control from negative treatment.
  3. Rebellious or Oppositional Behavior (Oppositional Defiant Disorder - ODD) – Some people, especially in childhood or adolescence, may act in ways that provoke negative reactions as a way of asserting control or defiance.
  4. Self-Sabotaging Behavior – Rooted in low self-esteem or deep-seated beliefs of unworthiness, some individuals may seek out disapproval as a way to confirm negative self-perceptions.
  5. Inferiority Complex – A person with an inferiority complex may act in a way that provokes dislike as a means of reinforcing their own negative self-view.
  6. Schadenfreude-Seeking (Reverse Narcissism) – Some people enjoy being disliked because it gives them a sense of power or uniqueness, as if they are above social norms or expectations.
  7. Martyr Complex – A person with a martyr complex may subconsciously desire rejection or dislike to feel morally superior or to justify a belief that the world is against them.

Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty of. You know you have the same shit on the left.
 
, perhaps we can all agree on one thing:

MAGAs appear to get enjoyment -- real enjoyment -- out of seeing non-MAGAs in some kind of distress over MAGA's actions.

Above is the type of statement that identifies a Troll Bot -- Bugger and Mucky One use exactly the same taught tactic.

They quietly insert the conclusion they want right at the beginning, explaining it as common sense , or as generally accepted etc etc



They then produce material that tenuously supports the pre-determined conclusion, BUT they never mention or consider any other opening assertions.

This technique is always made to look pleasant and reasonable .

It is precisely the opposite.

It is a cheat method allowing deflection and misinformation.


It forms the basis of FAKE NEWS which is the job of a TROLL BOT TO PRODUCE TIME AFTER TIME .
 
Yeah, I can see that. No doubt a big part of this is that they feel incredibly victimized and aggrieved. This is their revenge, their "retribution".

I've mentioned many times that I have general agreements with them on some issues. But what has happened is that the voices they trust (the craven, opportunistic broadcasting and internet kind) have taken reasonable concerns and blown them up exponentially. This began with Limbaugh. And now it's essentially reached the pinnacle: It's literally Good vs. Evil for them. You are evil.

So if that's true, the pleasure they get from inflicting pain is a reflection of what they feel has happened to them. And that has to be horrible.
I don't know about it being horrible (for them), possibly unpleasant, but we all have to go through things in life that perhaps we rather would have not.

While I can have compassion for others going through pain or unpleasantness, that compassion comes to a full stop when they try to take out their aggressions and problems on me, when I had nothing to do with the things that shaped their lives to be what it is.
 
I don't know about it being horrible (for them), possibly unpleasant, but we all have to go through things in life that perhaps we rather would have not.

While I can have compassion for others going through pain or unpleasantness, that compassion comes to a full stop when they try to take out their aggressions and problems on me, when I had nothing to do with the things that shaped their lives to be what it is.
Or when they take it out on the entire damn nation.
 
If we were to identify ourselves as MAGA and non-MAGA (which includes Americans across the political spectrum), perhaps we can all agree on one thing:

MAGAs appear to get enjoyment -- real enjoyment -- out of seeing non-MAGAs in some kind of distress over MAGA's actions. They cheer on Trump's constant insults and trolling, JD Vance's attacks on our former European allies, reactions to news of the rapid dismantling of the government, the release of violent Capitol criminals. They celebrate it.

So I got to wondering what this is, from a psychological perspective, and I asked Chat GPT (which is pretty freaking amazing if you haven't tried it) "is there a psychological term for a person who enjoys being disliked?"

Here's what I got:

Yes, there are several psychological concepts that could explain why someone might want to be disliked:
  1. Counterdependency – A defense mechanism where a person deliberately pushes others away or resists attachment, sometimes by behaving in a way that makes them disliked.
  2. Masochistic Personality Traits – Some individuals may have a subconscious desire to create situations where they are rejected or disliked, deriving a sense of validation or control from negative treatment.
  3. Rebellious or Oppositional Behavior (Oppositional Defiant Disorder - ODD) – Some people, especially in childhood or adolescence, may act in ways that provoke negative reactions as a way of asserting control or defiance.
  4. Self-Sabotaging Behavior – Rooted in low self-esteem or deep-seated beliefs of unworthiness, some individuals may seek out disapproval as a way to confirm negative self-perceptions.
  5. Inferiority Complex – A person with an inferiority complex may act in a way that provokes dislike as a means of reinforcing their own negative self-view.
  6. Schadenfreude-Seeking (Reverse Narcissism) – Some people enjoy being disliked because it gives them a sense of power or uniqueness, as if they are above social norms or expectations.
  7. Martyr Complex – A person with a martyr complex may subconsciously desire rejection or dislike to feel morally superior or to justify a belief that the world is against them.

 
Mac, do this board a favor. Just start hotboxing your own farts, smelling them, and telling everyone how great they smell. It would be no more impactful for any of us but a heck of a lot more entertaining.
SWEET SUE!!! That's naughty!!! ..................................................................................True though!!

Greg
 
SWEET SUE!!! That's naughty!!! ..................................................................................True though!!

Greg

It is naughty but honestly that's Mac's gig. Telling us over and over how he's offended, someone broke the norms, "they" don't care/don't think/don't understand.

Mac figuratively smells his own farts all day long and then comes here to tell us how great they are.

WE KNOW MAC
 
Well, you're rude and don't live in reality. And I'm being polite.

This poster once photoshopped a gravestone for me that said "SweetSue is dead, someone did the world a favor"

Oh, why, because I threatened its family? Its life? Nah, I just don't like the Covid "vaccines". This hospital administrator thinks that's reason enough to die.
 
No, that's not it in my opinion. If these things were happening just due to "life" that be one thing, but they're absolutely giddy that Trump et al are able to do the things that they have not been able to do and perhaps wanted to do - cause pain, fear & misery to others by taking things from them that they have earned but that the cultists feel that they don't deserve.

That's sadism - feeling pleasure from inflicting pain on others. They're getting their revenge for their laundry list of perceive wrongs via proxy or vicariously, I'm not sure which, I guess it's possible that it's both.

But what I don't think is that they enjoy being disliked. I don't think they give a rat's ass who likes them as long as they are in the majority. This is nothing more than mob rule by the "head bully in charge".

We'll just have to wait and see how everything plays out. I wonder if anyone is taking bets
that they have earned but that the cultists feel that they don't deserve.

so what are you talking about here?....what have they taken?...
 
As I've said to both ends of the political spectrum many, many times: The problem is not the issue you're trying to address. The problem is your methods in addressing it.

Many of the methods used by the ends of the spectrum are so destructive that I have to wonder what their goals actually are.
both ends MANY MANY times?....lol....holy shit.....
 
It is naughty but honestly that's Mac's gig. Telling us over and over how he's offended, someone broke the norms, "they" don't care/don't think/don't understand.

Mac figuratively smells his own farts all day long and then comes here to tell us how great they are.

WE KNOW MAC
""they" don't care/don't think/don't understand."

So he's a flatusnorter?? There are a few of them about.

But do not think for a second I give that dill any semblance of credibility. I do not!! I've seen Mac over the years and frankly I consider him one of the least impressive posters. I have no time for him at all.

Greg
 
If we were to identify ourselves as MAGA and non-MAGA (which includes Americans across the political spectrum), perhaps we can all agree on one thing:

MAGAs appear to get enjoyment -- real enjoyment -- out of seeing non-MAGAs in some kind of distress over MAGA's actions. They cheer on Trump's constant insults and trolling, JD Vance's attacks on our former European allies, reactions to news of the rapid dismantling of the government, the release of violent Capitol criminals. They celebrate it.

So I got to wondering what this is, from a psychological perspective, and I asked Chat GPT (which is pretty freaking amazing if you haven't tried it) "is there a psychological term for a person who enjoys being disliked?"

Here's what I got:

Yes, there are several psychological concepts that could explain why someone might want to be disliked:
  1. Counterdependency – A defense mechanism where a person deliberately pushes others away or resists attachment, sometimes by behaving in a way that makes them disliked.
  2. Masochistic Personality Traits – Some individuals may have a subconscious desire to create situations where they are rejected or disliked, deriving a sense of validation or control from negative treatment.
  3. Rebellious or Oppositional Behavior (Oppositional Defiant Disorder - ODD) – Some people, especially in childhood or adolescence, may act in ways that provoke negative reactions as a way of asserting control or defiance.
  4. Self-Sabotaging Behavior – Rooted in low self-esteem or deep-seated beliefs of unworthiness, some individuals may seek out disapproval as a way to confirm negative self-perceptions.
  5. Inferiority Complex – A person with an inferiority complex may act in a way that provokes dislike as a means of reinforcing their own negative self-view.
  6. Schadenfreude-Seeking (Reverse Narcissism) – Some people enjoy being disliked because it gives them a sense of power or uniqueness, as if they are above social norms or expectations.
  7. Martyr Complex – A person with a martyr complex may subconsciously desire rejection or dislike to feel morally superior or to justify a belief that the world is against them.



Did you inform chatbot that part of the situation was that MAGA had been the target of insults and hate from most media and academia and govdernment for decades prior to us getting a chance to give some back?

Cause that might change the answer.

To something like, "very normal and healthy".
 
As I've said to both ends of the political spectrum many, many times: The problem is not the issue you're trying to address. The problem is your methods in addressing it.

Many of the methods used by the ends of the spectrum are so destructive that I have to wonder what their goals actually are.
Your "ends of the spectrum" are that lunatic left loons are OK; just not putting their case well, while anyone moderate is the devil. So do yourself a favour and just piss off.

Greg
 
If we were to identify ourselves as MAGA and non-MAGA (which includes Americans across the political spectrum), perhaps we can all agree on one thing:

MAGAs appear to get enjoyment -- real enjoyment -- out of seeing non-MAGAs in some kind of distress over MAGA's actions. They cheer on Trump's constant insults and trolling, JD Vance's attacks on our former European allies, reactions to news of the rapid dismantling of the government, the release of violent Capitol criminals. They celebrate it.

So I got to wondering what this is, from a psychological perspective, and I asked Chat GPT (which is pretty freaking amazing if you haven't tried it) "is there a psychological term for a person who enjoys being disliked?"

Here's what I got:

Yes, there are several psychological concepts that could explain why someone might want to be disliked:
  1. Counterdependency – A defense mechanism where a person deliberately pushes others away or resists attachment, sometimes by behaving in a way that makes them disliked.
  2. Masochistic Personality Traits – Some individuals may have a subconscious desire to create situations where they are rejected or disliked, deriving a sense of validation or control from negative treatment.
  3. Rebellious or Oppositional Behavior (Oppositional Defiant Disorder - ODD) – Some people, especially in childhood or adolescence, may act in ways that provoke negative reactions as a way of asserting control or defiance.
  4. Self-Sabotaging Behavior – Rooted in low self-esteem or deep-seated beliefs of unworthiness, some individuals may seek out disapproval as a way to confirm negative self-perceptions.
  5. Inferiority Complex – A person with an inferiority complex may act in a way that provokes dislike as a means of reinforcing their own negative self-view.
  6. Schadenfreude-Seeking (Reverse Narcissism) – Some people enjoy being disliked because it gives them a sense of power or uniqueness, as if they are above social norms or expectations.
  7. Martyr Complex – A person with a martyr complex may subconsciously desire rejection or dislike to feel morally superior or to justify a belief that the world is against them.

WRONG!!! Magas just like JUSTICE, and if it visited upon your ilk then BLOODY FANTASTIC!!!

Greg
 
Mac, do this board a favor. Just start hotboxing your own farts, smelling them, and telling everyone how great they smell. It would be no more impactful for any of us but a heck of a lot more entertaining.
Hey NotSoSweetsue

Just admit Mac nailed your personality to a T
 

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