The Promise, And Then The REAL Promise

[Monk-Eye]

" Population Gluttony For Left Wing Socialist Dream Of Poverty For All "

* Anti Racist Racist Ass Clowns *

Would you be here if we had adhered to that notion 150 years ago or so? How many millions and millions of Americans wouldn't be? How many USMB members?

Are Europe And The US Expected To Reflect Proportions Of The Global Demographic When The Left Wing Is Through With Them ?

" Are Europe And The US Expected To Reflect Proportions Of The Global Demographic When The Left Wing Is Through With Them ? " * Motivations For Reverse Racism * Add up the total number of individuals around the world according to race and which proportion of the global demographic does each...

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Chapter 2: Immigration’s Impact on Past and Future U.S. Population Change

Foreign-born Americans and their descendants have been the main driver of U.S. population growth, as well as of national racial and ethnic change, since

www.pewresearch.org

At the time, relatively few anticipated the size or demographic impact of the post-1965 immigration flow (Gjelten, 2015). In absolute numbers, the roughly 59 million immigrants who arrived in the U.S. between 1965 and 2015 exceed those who arrived in the great waves of European-dominated immigration during the 19th and early 20th centuries. Between 1840 and 1889, 14.3 million immigrants came to the U.S., and between 1890 and 1919, an additional 18.2 million arrived (see Table 1 for details).

Looking ahead, new Pew Research Center U.S. population projections show that if current demographic trends continue, future immigrants and their descendants will be an even bigger source of population growth. Between 2015 and 2065, they are projected to account for 88% of the U.S. population increase, or 103 million people, as the nation grows to 441 million.

 

[Unkotare]

... as the nation grows to 441 million.

Where's the link, Cliff?

 

[talksalot]

1.Quid Pro Joe makes this promise:
"Biden: I’ll Propose ‘Pathway To Citizenship’ For 11M Illegal Immigrants ‘Within 100 Days’

...he’s quite clear about his plans on illegal immigrants.

“The fact is I’ve made it very clear within 100 days, I’m going to send to the United States Congress a pathway to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people,” Biden said in Thursday’s debate with President Donald Trump.
Biden said he and President Barack Obama “made a mistake” by failing to implement comprehensive immigration reform during their eight years in office, even though at one point they held a super-majority in the Senate which allowed them to jam through the Affordable Care Act (ACA).

“It took too long to get right,” Biden said. But he vowed to change that if elected, saying, “I’ll be president of the United States, not vice president of the United States.”
Biden has already released two plans on immigration: One would end Trump administration’s policies, including detention centers for children, the other would create a pathway for citizenship, including for those deemed Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA)."

Biden: I’ll Propose ‘Pathway To Citizenship’ For 11M Illegal Immigrants ‘Within 100 Days’ | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

2. There is no doubt that the Democrats mean to keep THIS promise......the lie is how many they plan to register as Democrats.
For a long time the Democrats have planned to replace American voters who are not Leftists with illegal aliens.
How many????



3. "Est., 11 million illegals."
Based on your accepting that bogus 'estimate,' you must be oblivious of what is going on around you.....and you may continue to vote Democrat.

Case in point: while millions of illegal aliens filter into the country year after year, the very same figure...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....neither changes nor is questioned.

"... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade."
How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?



4. There are between 50 million and 80 million illegal aliens living in this country.


5. And the Bidenistas plan to march every single one into the voting booths in their favor.

And they will 'pay' those illegals and/or new citizens as per Biden, in this way: welfare.
That you will pay for.


All Democrats Say Their Health Plan Would Cover Undocumented Immigrants

I think 11 million is just the starting point. There are about 30 million living here. Legal immigrants wait years, jump through hoops and have to pay for the privilege of applying.

 

[PoliticalChic]

" Population Gluttony For Left Wing Socialist Dream Of Poverty For All "

* Anti Racist Racist Ass Clowns *

Would you be here if we had adhered to that notion 150 years ago or so? How many millions and millions of Americans wouldn't be? How many USMB members?

Are Europe And The US Expected To Reflect Proportions Of The Global Demographic When The Left Wing Is Through With Them ?

" Are Europe And The US Expected To Reflect Proportions Of The Global Demographic When The Left Wing Is Through With Them ? " * Motivations For Reverse Racism * Add up the total number of individuals around the world according to race and which proportion of the global demographic does each...

www.usmessageboard.com

Chapter 2: Immigration’s Impact on Past and Future U.S. Population Change

Foreign-born Americans and their descendants have been the main driver of U.S. population growth, as well as of national racial and ethnic change, since

www.pewresearch.org

At the time, relatively few anticipated the size or demographic impact of the post-1965 immigration flow (Gjelten, 2015). In absolute numbers, the roughly 59 million immigrants who arrived in the U.S. between 1965 and 2015 exceed those who arrived in the great waves of European-dominated immigration during the 19th and early 20th centuries. Between 1840 and 1889, 14.3 million immigrants came to the U.S., and between 1890 and 1919, an additional 18.2 million arrived (see Table 1 for details).

Looking ahead, new Pew Research Center U.S. population projections show that if current demographic trends continue, future immigrants and their descendants will be an even bigger source of population growth. Between 2015 and 2065, they are projected to account for 88% of the U.S. population increase, or 103 million people, as the nation grows to 441 million.

Many....or most.....of the cultures that Democrats entice into flooding these shores are corrupt, and based on illegality. In other words, the more third world immigration, the less principled our society will be.

As a result of the Democrat Immigration act of 1965, the nations that contribute the greatest number of immigrants are not the same ones responsible for the founding of the nation. Case in point, we take more immigrants from Nigeria than we do from Britain. https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/Lawful_Permanent_Residents_2013.pdf




Why is this an example of a change in society for the worse? Nigeria is a criminal society, from internet scams, car-theft, piracy and kidnapping. There are more Nigerians in American than there are in any other country in the world...except Nigeria.


".... the so-called Nigerian 419 scam, named after the fraud section of the Nigerian penal code, never turns out that way.... The 419 scam reached such epidemic proportions in recent years that Congress proposed legislation, the State Department issued travel warnings and the Secret Service launched "Operation 419" to fight a scourge that has cost Americans at minimum $100 Daniel J. Smith, associate professor and chair of anthropology at Brown University, spent years in Nigeria observing the 419 scam up close, insights he shares in his book, "A Culture of Corruption: Everyday Deception and Popular Discontent in Nigeria." million."www.creditcards.com/credit-card-news/qa-daniel-j-smith-honest-nigerian-corruption-419-1278.php



a. "The Nigerian mafia is well organized and sophisticated. Investigators have uncovered 'classes' where earlier Nigerian settlers train newcomers to the U.S. in the subtle arts of credit card, banking and insurance fraud and keep up to date on new techniques. " The Social Contract - The Nigerian Crime Network


b. And, of course, .... "In Mexico, every transaction between a citizen and a government official involves a cash bribe." Coulter, Op.Cit.

 

[PoliticalChic]

... as the nation grows to 441 million.

Where's the link, Cliff?

He is probably correct, as the number of illegal immigrants living in this nation is between 50 and 80 million.

Ever notice you have to press #1 for English?

 

[PoliticalChic]

1.Quid Pro Joe makes this promise:
"Biden: I’ll Propose ‘Pathway To Citizenship’ For 11M Illegal Immigrants ‘Within 100 Days’

...he’s quite clear about his plans on illegal immigrants.

“The fact is I’ve made it very clear within 100 days, I’m going to send to the United States Congress a pathway to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people,” Biden said in Thursday’s debate with President Donald Trump.
Biden said he and President Barack Obama “made a mistake” by failing to implement comprehensive immigration reform during their eight years in office, even though at one point they held a super-majority in the Senate which allowed them to jam through the Affordable Care Act (ACA).

“It took too long to get right,” Biden said. But he vowed to change that if elected, saying, “I’ll be president of the United States, not vice president of the United States.”
Biden has already released two plans on immigration: One would end Trump administration’s policies, including detention centers for children, the other would create a pathway for citizenship, including for those deemed Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA)."

Biden: I’ll Propose ‘Pathway To Citizenship’ For 11M Illegal Immigrants ‘Within 100 Days’ | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

2. There is no doubt that the Democrats mean to keep THIS promise......the lie is how many they plan to register as Democrats.
For a long time the Democrats have planned to replace American voters who are not Leftists with illegal aliens.
How many????



3. "Est., 11 million illegals."
Based on your accepting that bogus 'estimate,' you must be oblivious of what is going on around you.....and you may continue to vote Democrat.

Case in point: while millions of illegal aliens filter into the country year after year, the very same figure...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....neither changes nor is questioned.

"... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade."
How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?



4. There are between 50 million and 80 million illegal aliens living in this country.


5. And the Bidenistas plan to march every single one into the voting booths in their favor.

And they will 'pay' those illegals and/or new citizens as per Biden, in this way: welfare.
That you will pay for.


All Democrats Say Their Health Plan Would Cover Undocumented Immigrants

I think 11 million is just the starting point. There are about 30 million living here. Legal immigrants wait years, jump through hoops and have to pay for the privilege of applying.

Between 50 and 80 million.

I'd be happy to provide the documentation.

 

[Unkotare]

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Ever notice you have to press #1 for English?

Nope. I notice that there is sometimes an option to press #7 (not sure why it's 7) for Spanish.

 

[Unkotare]

I note that when we experienced large scale immigration from Europe, those countries were war-torn, corrupt and/or what we would today term "third world."

 

[Unkotare]

I note that absent immigration the population of the US would be falling, with significant consequences.

 

[Unkotare]

Census Finds U.S. Population Will Decline Without Immigration

A shrinking population size would make companies and countries more likely to ignore the United States.

www.cato.org

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Corroboration In Selling Others Into Bondage By Gluttonous Capitalists And Socialism Idealists "

* Idiocy Of Those Decrying Investment In Ones Selves *

Census Finds U.S. Population Will Decline Without Immigration

A shrinking population size would make companies and countries more likely to ignore the United States.

www.cato.org

Nothing implies that population reduction would be a problem , whereas over population definitely is - Four Hundred Million Americans .

A supposition that immigration is needed does not take into account that chain immigration - first come first served - at current and previous levels , along with its intrinsic detraction from merit based - employment based - immigration is economically unsustainable and consequently socially deleterious .

A supposition that immigration is needed cannot predict that current populations would not increase numbers if such a need existed and funds currently deprived of them to surrogate brood parasitism for the wanton desire by capitalist gluttons for a servile class could be retained , if not diverted , for that growth .

Much as imbecile slave holders concerned only with the financial bottom line felt that being outnumbered by slaves nearly 3 to 1 was not an issue , irrespective of consequences for the nation and its people , capitalist gluttons hold a similar perspective of disregard for the quality of life and social well being of the nation and its peoples .

 

[Unkotare]

...Nothing implies that population reduction would be a problem...

It seems you understand as much about economics as you do history, philosophy, or political science. Which is to say - nothing.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I note that absent immigration the population of the US would be falling, with significant consequences.

I note that when we experienced large scale immigration from Europe, those countries were war-torn, corrupt and/or what we would today term "third world."

You're talking about the source of the values and ideals of Western Civilization.

There is a simple reason for the Democrat push, the Hart-Celler Act, that altered the target areas for immigration: these are people who need big government welfare.


You know that.



" Despite [Democrat] Robert Kennedy's promise that, "Immigration from any single country would be limited to 10 percent of the total," Mexico sent 20 percent of last year's immigrants. Hispanics have made up nearly half of all immigrants since 1968.

[Democrat] Ted Kennedy also claimed the 1965 amendments "will not cause American workers to lose their jobs." Teddy cannot have it both ways: either the immigrant will remain unemployed and become a public charge, or he will take a job that otherwise could have gone to a native American. ....immigrant participation lowers wages.



... the [Democrat] 1965 Immigration Reform Act has remade society into the image its critics most feared. Immigration levels topping a million a year will increase U.S. population to 400 million within 50 years. Meanwhile, exponents of multiculturalism insist new arrivals make no effort to assimilate; to do so would be "genocidal," a notion that makes a mockery of real genocides. Instead, long-forgotten grudges are nursed against the white populace.

All the while, indigenous paychecks drop through lower wages and higher taxes collected to provide social services for immigrants. And this only takes into account legal immigration. " FrontPage Magazine - The 1965 Immigration Act: Anatomy of a Disaster



Former Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Bin Mohamad said in a speech in 1997: "We do have the ultimate weapon. People are more mobile now. They can go anywhere. . . . If we are not allowed a good life in our countries, if we are going to be global citizens, then we should migrate North. We should migrate North in our millions, legally or illegally. Masses of Asians and Africans should inundate Europe and America."
Half a Century of Barely Controlled Immigration

How would he vote, Democrat or Republican?

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Principle Advocacy Of Anarcho Captialists "

* Opposed To Satiating The Gluttony Of Manorial Sociopaths *

Not real big on economics, huh?

Slavery and serfdom had economic advantages and no doubt your ilk were big on its revenue and opposed to ending its subjugation to include supplanting and subverting peoples with hostile indifference and pathetic excuses .

But , you would not let that keep you from trying to paint others as advocates of slavery as a red herring to distract from your own penchant to implement bondage under the guise of individual liberty .

 

[PoliticalChic]

Census Finds U.S. Population Will Decline Without Immigration

A shrinking population size would make companies and countries more likely to ignore the United States.

www.cato.org

Here's what's missing.

The link you provided is based on the usual static belief.....nothing will change.

Life is dynamic, and actions change with conditions.

For example,

1. “While Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's call for women to give birth to at least three children has received the support of some individuals and organizations,… “Turkey currently has a young population, but if current trends continue it will be aging by 2038. Western societies are currently facing an aging population problem. Every family should have three children if we wish to preserve Turkey’s young population.” http://www.todayszaman.com/newsDetail_getNewsById.action?load=detay&link=139512
2. Turkey has a problem: declining population growth. And the Turkish government believes it's got the start of a solution: incentives for working mothers to have more children. That's right, the Turkish government has unveiled an incentive program that will pay women to procreate, the Hurriyet Daily News reported.Jan 9, 2015
   
   Turkish government to pay women to have kids, boost ..
   
   
   The important thing is for a nation to control immigration.

 

[PoliticalChic]

...Nothing implies that population reduction would be a problem...

It seems you understand as much about economics as you do history, philosophy, or political science. Which is to say - nothing.

The claim is that the economy needs these illegals.
"...undocumented immigrants are paying billions of dollar in taxes into state and local coffers, and that substantially more would be generated if President Obama prevails in imposing a new executive order protecting many of those workers from deportation."
Study Finds Illegal Immigrants Pay $11.8B in Taxes


But the facts aren't their friend...

“The conservative Heritage Foundation estimated unlawful immigrant households paid $39.2 billion in 2010, but received $93.7 billion in government services.” -- Oliver Darcy

[So much for that fable.]
15 Stats That Destroy Liberal Narratives



And, the money taken from working Americans is sent to Mexico by these Mexican citizens....more money than the

"Remittances totaled more than oil income

Money sent from abroad came to $24.8 billion last year, up 4.75%

Mexico News Daily | Tuesday, February 2, 2016

Remittances sent home by Mexicans working outside the country surpassed [Mexican] petroleum revenues in 2015 for the first time.

There was a 4.75% increase in money sent from abroad, most of which comes from the U.S., to total US $24.8 billion last year, up from $23.6 billion in 2014, said the Bank of México.

The bank said it was the first time remittances had totaled more than petroleum revenues since it began tracking them in 1995.
Oil revenues last year totaled $23.4 billion."

Remittances totaled more than Mexico's oil income

Remittances sent home by Mexicans working outside the country surpassed petroleum revenues in 2015 for the first time.

mexiconewsdaily.com

 

[Unkotare]

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A supposition that immigration is needed cannot predict that current populations would not increase numbers if such a need existed ...

Demographics don't work that way, idiot. It's not a switch you can flip on and off at a moment's notice.

 

[PoliticalChic]

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A supposition that immigration is needed cannot predict that current populations would not increase numbers if such a need existed ...

Demographics don't work that way, idiot. It's not a switch you can flip on and off at a moment's notice.

The 'switch' is restricting immigration to America's needs, not the rest of the world's or the Democrat Party's needs.

 

[Unkotare]

There's much more to it than having some bureaucrat say "go make more babies!"

China's birthrate falls to lowest level despite push for more babies

Efforts by policymakers to bolster the population after decades of strict family planning seem to be failing

www.theguardian.com

 

[Unkotare]

Once immigrant families have been in the US for several generations, they are more likely to vote Republican. Immigration does NOT equal perpetual democrat voters. Republicans have every reason to have confidence in the strength of Republican principles.

" Members of a family that has been in the country for multiple generations and uses primarily English are more likely to vote Republican than those who more recently arrived in the United States. "

Election exposes generational divide among Hispanics

Traditionally, Hispanic Americans tend to vote for Democrats, but that support isn't ironclad.

www.pbs.org