The problem with capitalism

[jbander]

Adam smith said that at any time the market, jobs and wages can be controlled by business and not by the markets and at that time it is wrong and something has to be done about it, That is what is going on now. The possibility of the chance to get ahead is the driving force that separates capitalism from all other economic concepts but the right, since Reagan's trickle down lie, has taken that away totally from the possibilities. The only threat to capitalism in this country is the right wing , thinking they deserve it all.

A Guide to Statistics on Historical Trends in Income Inequality | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

Adam Smith and "The Wealth of Nations"

The Wealth of Nations" is a seminal text of economic thought published by Scottish philosopher Adam Smith in 1776.

www.investopedia.com

 

[SassyIrishLass]

But Socialism has always worked....never in history

 

[White 6]

But Socialism has always worked....never in history

If referring to pure socialism, absolutely true. The dirty ignored truth is we have and always have had a mixed system, grounded in capitalism, but incorporating bits of socialism. I am pretty sure, pure capitalism would fail to sustain a country this large or diverse, either.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

If referring to pure socialism, absolutely true. The dirty ignored truth is we have and always have had a mixed system, grounded in capitalism, but incorporating bits of socialism. I am pretty sure, pure capitalism would fail to sustain a country this large or diverse, either.

Give that shit a rest. Without capitalism in the US your precious socialism wouldn't exist.

 

[Oddball]

Adam smith said that at any time the market, jobs and wages can be controlled by business and not by the markets and at that time it is wrong and something has to be done about it, That is what is going on now. The possibility of the chance to get ahead is the driving force that separates capitalism from all other economic concepts but the right, since Reagan's trickle down lie, has taken that away totally from the possibilities. The only threat to capitalism in this country is the right wing , thinking they deserve it all.

A Guide to Statistics on Historical Trends in Income Inequality | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

Adam Smith and "The Wealth of Nations"

The Wealth of Nations" is a seminal text of economic thought published by Scottish philosopher Adam Smith in 1776.

www.investopedia.com

 

[White 6]

Give that shit a rest. Without capitalism in the US your precious socialism wouldn't exist.

Were you talking to me, or respond to wrong thread? What part of "grounded in capitalism" did you not comprehend, if you really meant to respond to my post. Or did you not realize our system already incorporated some socialism. It would be hard to argue it was pure capitalism and any time since World War II at the very latest. Did you graduate public school, enjoy the road network not under a toll system or arrive at your flight destination utilizing air traffic control, not owned by the airline you flew with? I assure you, I am quite happy with the Tennessee Valley Authority, and please with its boon to supply power needs of private enterprise as well as provide navigation, flood control and protect the environment.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Give that shit a rest. Without capitalism in the US your precious socialism wouldn't exist.

Communist and fascist nations have State Police; the US has local police and sheriff agencies - government employed - is a system of socialism. As is the Post Office, our National Parks and are members of the United States Armed Forces.

Income inequality came with Voodoo economics, aka trickle down, which has never trickled down to the masses of people. Ask yourself, why is so much poverty in the United States in the pockets of billionaires?

Those who didn't read history learned politics from Limbaugh and those talking heads who followed him.

Everyday they sell BIG LIES, and everyday true believers on social media never research what these talking heads are echoing the same lie. Of course they don't know they contribute to the BIG LIE a phrase coined by Hitler in his book, Mein Kamph.***

***See: Joseph Goebbels On the “Big Lie”

Ask yourself, why is there so much poverty in the United States, and so much wealth and income in the pockets of the billionaires?

 

[bripat9643]

If referring to pure socialism, absolutely true. The dirty ignored truth is we have and always have had a mixed system, grounded in capitalism, but incorporating bits of socialism. I am pretty sure, pure capitalism would fail to sustain a country this large or diverse, either.

Not true. Until about 1916 we had a system that was 99% capitalism, and it worked beautifully.

 

[bripat9643]

Communist and fascist nations have State Police; the US has local police and sheriff agencies - government employed - is a system of socialism. As is the Post Office, our National Parks and are members of the United States Armed Forces.

We also have state police. It's called the FBI. There's also the ATF, Coast Guard, DEA, and various other government agencies. In fact, IRS agents carry guns.

Income inequality came with Voodoo economics, aka trickle down, which has never trickled down to the masses of people. Ask yourself, why is so much poverty in the United States in the pockets of billionaires?

Income inequality has existed since time immemorial, you fucking dumbass.

Those who didn't read history learned politics from Limbaugh and those talking heads who followed him.

Everyday they sell BIG LIES, and everyday true believers on social media never research what these talking heads are echoing the same lie. Of course they don't know they contribute to the BIG LIE a phrase coined by Hitler in his book, Mein Kamph.***

***See: Joseph Goebbels On the “Big Lie”

Ask yourself, why is there so much poverty in the United States, and so much wealth and income in the pockets of the billionaires?

A typical poor person in the US has more income than a middle class person in most European countries.

 

[imawhosure]

Communist and fascist nations have State Police; the US has local police and sheriff agencies - government employed - is a system of socialism. As is the Post Office, our National Parks and are members of the United States Armed Forces.

Income inequality came with Voodoo economics, aka trickle down, which has never trickled down to the masses of people. Ask yourself, why is so much poverty in the United States in the pockets of billionaires?

Those who didn't read history learned politics from Limbaugh and those talking heads who followed him.

Everyday they sell BIG LIES, and everyday true believers on social media never research what these talking heads are echoing the same lie. Of course they don't know they contribute to the BIG LIE a phrase coined by Hitler in his book, Mein Kamph.***

***See: Joseph Goebbels On the “Big Lie”

Ask yourself, why is there so much poverty in the United States, and so much wealth and income in the pockets of the billionaires?

Rye catcher, you got us, damn!

Hey by the way, have you looked up which country has the 2nd most billionaires? Well, that would be CHINA, and it is very close. So tell us, how the regular folk living there?

 

[bripat9643]

If referring to pure socialism, absolutely true. The dirty ignored truth is we have and always have had a mixed system, grounded in capitalism, but incorporating bits of socialism. I am pretty sure, pure capitalism would fail to sustain a country this large or diverse, either.

What socialism did we have in 1914?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

If referring to pure socialism, absolutely true. The dirty ignored truth is we have and always have had a mixed system, grounded in capitalism, but incorporating bits of socialism. I am pretty sure, pure capitalism would fail to sustain a country this large or diverse, either.

The Preppy Republic

They both impose absentee ownership and produce nothing on their own. They both come from the same upper-class source, those who believe they are Born to Rule. But without Daddy's Money, they would be nobodies in Nowhereland. They know it, too; their lifelong denial makes them frantically pushy and insistent that they are anointed and know a lot more than us plebeians. So we should just shut up and get out of their way.

 

[White 6]

The Preppy Republic

They both impose absentee ownership and produce nothing on their own. They both come from the same upper-class source, those who believe they are Born to Rule. But without Daddy's Money, they would be nobodies in Nowhereland. They know it, too; their lifelong denial makes them frantically pushy and insistent that they are anointed and know a lot more than us plebeians. So we should just shut up and get out of their way.

I avoid getting too carried away on capitalist/socialist thing. Realizing it is mixed and not knowing a single pure system of either that survived more than a few years, most should not get carried away on it either.

 

[BluesLegend]

Is the left trying to mooch again? people who earned the wealth won't give me any , pathetic.

 

[bripat9643]

The Preppy Republic

They both impose absentee ownership and produce nothing on their own. They both come from the same upper-class source, those who believe they are Born to Rule. But without Daddy's Money, they would be nobodies in Nowhereland. They know it, too; their lifelong denial makes them frantically pushy and insistent that they are anointed and know a lot more than us plebeians. So we should just shut up and get out of their way.

How does anyone "impose" absentee ownership? To be the owner, you have to buy the property. The rest of your horse manure is even lamer.

 

[Resnic]

Ok, so anyone that doesn't like capitalism can move to a country where it doesn't exist and leave America alone. Capitalism worked just fine for hundreds of millions of people in America.

It works fine for me. I don't care about wealthy or try to chase being wealthy because it isn't worth it to me. I just want to be free, and work to be comfortable in life. Let the rich be rich, I don't want it, I just want to be happy with my life.

In my 46 years of being alive the worst as an adult have been in the past year or so and that wasn't because of Republicans.

 

[jbander]

But Socialism has always worked....never in history

What is this even, Capitalism is the only way, there has never been socialism in this country and there never will be , like I said capitalism is the only way.

 

[jbander]

If referring to pure socialism, absolutely true. The dirty ignored truth is we have and always have had a mixed system, grounded in capitalism, but incorporating bits of socialism. I am pretty sure, pure capitalism would fail to sustain a country this large or diverse, either.

Its not even socialism or any aspect of socialism, having social programs is not socialism , if it was, literally every civilization back to and including the Roman empire would be socialist. All aspecks of the rights attack of socialism is stupid , and only comes with their own made up definition of socialism. Fact is it already has a clear concise definition and that definition shows how completely stupid these right wingers are, Don't play their game , you are to smart for that and they are way to stupid to ever considered a source on anything, with them it is either a lie or straight up stupidity. Simple question have you ever heard the truth from any wacko righty here?

 

[jbander]

Communist and fascist nations have State Police; the US has local police and sheriff agencies - government employed - is a system of socialism. As is the Post Office, our National Parks and are members of the United States Armed Forces.

Income inequality came with Voodoo economics, aka trickle down, which has never trickled down to the masses of people. Ask yourself, why is so much poverty in the United States in the pockets of billionaires?

Those who didn't read history learned politics from Limbaugh and those talking heads who followed him.

Everyday they sell BIG LIES, and everyday true believers on social media never research what these talking heads are echoing the same lie. Of course they don't know they contribute to the BIG LIE a phrase coined by Hitler in his book, Mein Kamph.***

***See: Joseph Goebbels On the “Big Lie”

Ask yourself, why is there so much poverty in the United States, and so much wealth and income in the pockets of the billionaires?

Sorry have to ask ,where did you get the idea that the things you listed are socialist, they are not in any way socialist. There is only one way that Marxism, socialism and communism is implemented and without this there is no socialism , Marxism or Communism . It is the prime tenant and that is the means of production is owned, operated and controlled by the state and the sale of that production is designated to the state. This has never happened in this country and it never will unless it would be because of the actions of the right wing.

 

[jbander]

Give that shit a rest. Without capitalism in the US your precious socialism wouldn't exist.

I won't let you hyjack this thread , that means stick to the subject, this thread has nothing to do with socialism. Especially some ignorant self proclaimed definition of socialism .