The 'People's Choice'? Hardly! Superdelegates Propping Up Hillary!

[easyt65]

Superdelegates Are Propping Up Hillary Clinton - Breitbart/

Only in America, where everyone's vote is supposed to count equally, can a corrupt lying bi@tch who a majority of the people in the US considers to be the LEAST trustworthy candidate in this entire Presidential race, can be leading the DNC Nomination due to a corrupt, 'fixed' election primary where a select group of Super Delegate votes can circumvent the will of the people and hand the nomination to Hillary Clinton.

Setting aside the 'un-fair' system of Super delegates that allow SOME votes to count much more than others, only 200 delegates separate Bernie sanders and Hillary Clinton.

On Saturday Bernie Sanders swept Democrat caucuses in Washington, Alaska, and Hawaii. The scale of his victories in each state is a story in itself. He won 70 percent of the vote in Washington and Hawaii and a staggering 80 percent in Alaska. The victories underscore how close the race for the Democrat nomination actually is.

Currently, Hillary Clinton has just over 1,700 delegates in her quest for the Democrat nomination, while Bernie Sanders has just over 1,000. He will likely pick up additional delegates after Saturday’s final results are tabulated, but, on the surface, he still looks to be trailing Clinton by a wide margin.

Much of Clinton’s margin over Sanders, however, is built on support from “superdelegates,” a class of delegates unique to the Democrat party. Superdelegates aren’t bound to any candidate until they cast their vote at the Democrat National Convention. Legally, they can switch their support at any time.

Setting aside the pledges of the superdelegates, the margin between Clinton and Sanders is much more narrow. Clinton has just over 1,200 delegates awarded through primary and caucus voting, while Sanders has over 1,000. There are still around 2,000 delegates available through the remaining primaries.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

True ignorance of how the process works.

 

[easyt65]

Then DO tell us, CCJ, while attempting to justify it, in a democratic process where everyone's vote is suppose to count equally how select 'Super Delegates' can circumvent the will of the people, rendering the majority's decision moot....

So much for one person, one vote.....

Don't get me wrong, the Republicans are one step behind the liberals, It's just the Democrats have figured out how to screw the people without having to do it in nasty fashion at a 'contested', 'brokered' convention.

 

[Stratford57]

Hopefully, hopefully...

Federal prosecutors reportedly are expected to try to interview Hillary Clinton and already have started reaching out for interviews with top aides as part of the FBI probe into her personal email use, a sign the investigation is moving into a new and potentially final phase.

Feds reportedly eye interview with Clinton, reach out to aides in email probe | Fox News

Timing would be just perfect.

 

[whitehall]

Anybody believe Hillary won six coin tosses in a row in Iowa? The crooked DNC has it rigged but how are they going to deal with an indictment?

 

[easyt65]

The Ex-Hillary employee running the Iowa Caucus reportedly STILL has not turned over the raw data showing she won...go figure.

 

[Care4all]

Bernie was expected to win these caucuses big time. He does well in caucuses because of the young followers, much like Obama in previous elections, because caucuses are like a ''social media'' event, and people like me just sit them out.

The general election is NOT A CAUCUS, it is a one man, one secret vote situation, and Bernie has yet shown that he can do well in a general election....he needs to cream Hillary in a State Primary or two or three or ten, not a State Caucus, in order to show he can win the General election...he still has time to do this, but thus far, he hasn't been able to...
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Super/unpledged delegates have not voted yet....they do not vote until the convention...the ONLY delegates that are PLEDGED delegates come from the voting in primaries and caucuses.

The super/unpledged delegates can change who they believe they will support, right up to the actual vote in the convention...the PLEDGED delegates CAN NOT change their votes, and are the only delegates that can be counted in the contest, at this point.

HOW MANY TIMES DOES THIS HAVE TO BE EXPLAINED TO YOU, before you stop posting threads like this Easy?

here is the count in this race, that is assured delegates

PLEDGED DELEGATES, thru Saturday



CLINTON 1243

SANDERS 975


Clinton, WITHOUT super/unpledged delegates, is winning and beating Sanders by almost +30%.

 

[Skylar]

Superdelegates Are Propping Up Hillary Clinton - Breitbart/

Only in America, where everyone's vote is supposed to count equally, can a corrupt lying bi@tch who a majority of the people in the US considers to be the LEAST trustworthy candidate in this entire Presidential race, can be leading the DNC Nomination due to a corrupt, 'fixed' election primary where a select group of Super Delegate votes can circumvent the will of the people and hand the nomination to Hillary Clinton.

Setting aside the 'un-fair' system of Super delegates that allow SOME votes to count much more than others, only 200 delegates separate Bernie sanders and Hillary Clinton.

On Saturday Bernie Sanders swept Democrat caucuses in Washington, Alaska, and Hawaii. The scale of his victories in each state is a story in itself. He won 70 percent of the vote in Washington and Hawaii and a staggering 80 percent in Alaska. The victories underscore how close the race for the Democrat nomination actually is.

Currently, Hillary Clinton has just over 1,700 delegates in her quest for the Democrat nomination, while Bernie Sanders has just over 1,000. He will likely pick up additional delegates after Saturday’s final results are tabulated, but, on the surface, he still looks to be trailing Clinton by a wide margin.

Much of Clinton’s margin over Sanders, however, is built on support from “superdelegates,” a class of delegates unique to the Democrat party. Superdelegates aren’t bound to any candidate until they cast their vote at the Democrat National Convention. Legally, they can switch their support at any time.

Setting aside the pledges of the superdelegates, the margin between Clinton and Sanders is much more narrow. Clinton has just over 1,200 delegates awarded through primary and caucus voting, while Sanders has over 1,000. There are still around 2,000 delegates available through the remaining primaries.

Hillary is still ahead in pledged delegates.Which of course you know. And you know we know.

See, the harder the GOP tries to have its 'brokered convention', where they give the nomination to someone who got fewer votes and fewer delegates........the louder they are going to whine about democratic 'super delegates'. Despite the super delegates NEVER having turned an election against the candidate with the most pledged delegates. And the GOP actively trying to have a convention that does turn the nomination against the candidate with the most pledged delegates.

Its a pretty common tactic to accuse your opponent of the *exact* shit you're trying to do. And then use your accusation for why you did the exact shit you condemned.

 

[easyt65]

Skylar, you just helped prove my point. The whole Super Delegate system is utter BS and directly mocks the idea of '1 person 1 vote' and that those votes count equally. They don't, and the Democrats' Super Delegate process drives that home. You can bet pressure and money has flowed directly upon the Super delegates, that they are being bought one way or another. The only way to democratically elect anyone is TRULY 1 person 1 vote, and they all equally count. Of course, for those who claim they are the most democratic party who represents the people, that is not their way.

As I said, I am not singling the Liberals out - they have found a more efficient, less publicly condemned, drama-generating method of screwing the people. So, in actuality, I am applauding them for their ingenuity.

 

[Skylar]

Skylar, you just helped prove my point. The whole Super Delegate system is utter BS and directly mocks the idea of '1 person 1 vote' and that those votes count equally. They don't, and the Democrats' Super Delegate process drives that home. You can bet pressure and money has flowed directly upon the Super delegates, that they are being bought one way or another. The only way to democratically elect anyone is TRULY 1 person 1 vote, and they all equally count. Of course, for those who claim they are the most democratic party who represents the people, that is not their way.

As I said, I am not singling the Liberals out - they have found a more efficient, less publicly condemned, drama-generating method of screwing the people. So, in actuality, I am applauding them for their ingenuity.

One person, one vote......like a brokered convention? Where the candidate with the fewer votes and fewer delegates.....gets the nomination?

The entire basis of the 'Never Trump' movement, John Kasich's campaign, and the plan of the republican establishment?

That's your point?

Oh, and when have the Democratic super delegates *ever* turned an election against the candidate with the most delegates......you know, the way that the GOP is trying to do against Trump as we speak?

Just name the election where that happened.

 

[easyt65]

One person, one vote......like a brokered convention? Where the candidate with the fewer votes and fewer delegates.....gets the nomination?

The entire basis of the 'Never Trump' movement, John Kasich's campaign, and the plan of the republican establishment?

That's your point?

Are you even reading what I post? I agreed with you that what the Washington Establishment GOP is doing equates to what the Liberals are doing - screwing the will of the people. My point is that Hillary is hardly the 'people's choice' and that, as pointed out, the only reason she is not having a meltdown over how close the race with a 74yo Socialist is at the moment is because of the bogus super delegate System the libs have rigged up.

 

[Skylar]

One person, one vote......like a brokered convention? Where the candidate with the fewer votes and fewer delegates.....gets the nomination?

The entire basis of the 'Never Trump' movement, John Kasich's campaign, and the plan of the republican establishment?

That's your point?

Are you even reading what I post? I agreed with you that what the Washington Establishment GOP is doing equates to what the Liberals are doing - screwing the will of the people. My point is that Hillary is hardly the 'people's choice' and that, as pointed out, the only reason she is not having a meltdown over how close the race with a 74yo Socialist is at the moment is because of the bogus super delegate System the libs have rigged up.

But it doesn't. As the DNC establishment is seeking to rally around the candidate with the most pledged delegates. And the GOP establishment is actively working against the candidate with the most pledged delegates.

I don't think 'equates' means what you think it means.

 

[easyt65]

You call using Super delegates to prop up a candidate approx. 60% of Americans feel as the least trustworthy candidate in this race 'rallying around' the 'preferred' candidate?! Preferred by WHO? Not, potentially, the people! only 200 'actual' delegates separate Hillary and Bernie...without the 'special' delegates that count more than everyone else's.

And you don't count the super delegates, or Obama's refusal to release documents related to Hillary's scandalous past, or the DOJ's declaring before any evidence is presented to them that they have no intention of indicting Hillary 'intentionally taking action' to help Hillary win the nomination?

 

[Skylar]

You call using Super delegates to prop up a candidate approx. 60% of Americans feel as the least trustworthy candidate in this race 'rallying around' the 'preferred' candidate?! Preferred by WHO? Not, potentially, the people! only 200 'actual' delegates separate Hillary and Bernie...without the 'special' delegates that count more than everyone else's.

Again, Hillary is by far the pledged delegate leader. So the DNC is 'propping up' the easy leader in the election?

I'll add 'propping up' to 'equate' with terms you clearly don't understand.

And you don't count the super delegates, or Obama's refusal to release documents related to Hillary's scandalous past, or the DOJ's declaring before any evidence is presented to them that they have no intention of indicting Hillary 'intentionally taking action' to help Hillary win the nomination?

Again, the super delegates have never cost the pledged delegate leader of the nomination.

Costing the pledged delegate leader the nomination is EXACTLY what the GOP establishment is trying to do to Trump. Yet you lament about the democratic race?

The harder the GOP pushes for a brokered convention, the more your ilk are going to whine about 'super delegates'. Despite the fact that the GOP is doing exactly what you claim you oppose. And the DNC never has.

 

[easyt65]

Again, Hillary is by far the pledged delegate leader. So the DNC is 'propping up' the easy leader in the election?

She leads Bernie by 200 delegates when you apply the true democratic election principle of '1 person 1 vote' and allow every vote to equally matter....no clear leader according to the citizen voters. Without the rigged Super delegates Hillary is in a 'dog fight'...which is appropriate considering her barking....

Again, the super delegates have never cost the pledged delegate leader of the nomination.

...yet...

 

[Care4all]

Again, Hillary is by far the pledged delegate leader. So the DNC is 'propping up' the easy leader in the election?

She leads Bernie by 200 delegates when you apply the true democratic election principle of '1 person 1 vote' and allow every vote to equally matter....no clear leader according to the citizen voters. Without the rigged Super delegates Hillary is in a 'dog fight'...which is appropriate considering her barking....

Again, the super delegates have never cost the pledged delegate leader of the nomination.

...yet...

she's winning by having 268 more pledged delegates than Sanders, where did you get 200?

must be some sort of GOP math?

 

[easyt65]

Don't be in such a rush to impose your opinion on others - Read the article I posted.

 

[Skylar]

Again, Hillary is by far the pledged delegate leader. So the DNC is 'propping up' the easy leader in the election?

She leads Bernie by 200 delegates when you apply the true democratic election principle of '1 person 1 vote' and allow every vote to equally matter....no clear leader according to the citizen voters. Without the rigged Super delegates Hillary is in a 'dog fight'...which is appropriate considering her barking....

She's leading him by about a third. So the DNC is 'propping up' the clear leader, who is easily winning?

How is the DNC getting behind the candidate with the most delegates not 'applying democracy'?

You're confusing them with the GOP. Its the GOP that is working to give their nomination to a candidate with FEWER votes and delegates than Trump.

You genuinely can't see a difference, huh?

A rational person could.

 

[Skylar]

Again, Hillary is by far the pledged delegate leader. So the DNC is 'propping up' the easy leader in the election?

She leads Bernie by 200 delegates when you apply the true democratic election principle of '1 person 1 vote' and allow every vote to equally matter....no clear leader according to the citizen voters. Without the rigged Super delegates Hillary is in a 'dog fight'...which is appropriate considering her barking....

Again, the super delegates have never cost the pledged delegate leader of the nomination.

...yet...

she's winning by having 268 more pledged delegates than Sanders, where did you get 200?

must be some sort of GOP math?

The closer the GOP gets to a brokered convention......the louder conservatives will whine about Hillary leading in both pledged and super delegates.

Blaming the democrats for what conservatives do is essentially a GOP plank at this point.

 

[Skylar]

Don't be in such a rush to impose your opinion on others - Read the article I posted.

You're the one equating the GOP's attempt to give its nomination to a candidate with FEWER delegates over one with MORE delegates....with the DNC getting behind the candidate with MORE delegates over the one with FEWER delegates.

Your argument equates 'fewer' with 'more'. Alas, math doesn't.