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Of course not. Israeli propaganda does not say that.Never heard that one before, how about a LINK that actually says this ?
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Of course not. Israeli propaganda does not say that.Never heard that one before, how about a LINK that actually says this ?
Palestine is a multi racial, multi religious, multi ethnic place. None of that matters. Palestinians are Palestinians regardless.
You should know that is not true.Palestine is a multi racial, multi religious, multi ethnic place. None of that matters. Palestinians are Palestinians regardless.
Oh please. The only part of "Palestine" which is multi-ethnic and multi-religious is Israel.
Of course not. Israeli propaganda does not say that.Never heard that one before, how about a LINK that actually says this ?
Do you think they were wrong to resist enslavement by and rule of people newly transferred from another continent?
Yes. I do think they were (and are) wrong. I think the emotional drama of your statement demonstrates the ideology with which the Arab Muslims view the situation. The problem is not presented as Palestinian self-determination. The underlying problem is the belief that the Joooooos will enslave us! The HORROR!
Let's face reality here. Unless one has been in a coma for years and years, we have seen the population in the U.S. change. There have been Asians, Southeast Asians, Hispanics, Middle Easterners, etc. moving to America in huge numbers for the jobs, freedom and opportunities this country offers. If people were honest they would realize that the same thing happened in Israel. Why should these poor Arabs stay put in their own countries when they could move to a country where things would be much better for them. The British officials in the area recognized what was happening.
About the only indigenous there, apart from the Jews who never left and some Christians, were the Bedouins who moved around from place to place. Does anyone really think this man was lying about his observations.
Doc's Talk: A TOUR OF PALESTINE; THE YEAR IS 1695
Then how about the observation of this man's wife's grandfathers. Were they lying too?
The Arabs in the Holy Land - Natives or Aliens?
Challenger, et al,
The BS piles up so high on the Arab Palestinian side --- I need energizer bunny wings --- just to stay above it.
Victims of violations of Customary and Humanitarian Laws (IHL), as well as, Article 1 (UN Charter) as guaranteed by international and humanitarian law are entitled to effective remedies. According to Article 3 (Hague Regulation), which reflects norms of Customary IHL.The demand to settle all claims, before a reconciliation can move forward, is in itself, a roadblock to negotiation and peace.
"In order to pave the way for future reconciliation, all claims arising out of the conflict should be settled. Reaching a comprehensive and sustainable peace agreement requires that the wrongs committed during the conflict are addressed and redressed." (PLO-NAD)
Article 3: A belligerent party which violates the provisions of the said Regulations shall, if the case demands, be liable to pay compensation. It shall be responsible for all acts committed by persons forming part of its armed forces. (1907 HR)
(COMMENT)Actually, that's been a Jewish mantra over the centuries.This is a common practice of the Arab Palestinian. They claim "nothing is ever their fault" and they are always the victim.
The Israelis, look at themselves in reflection, quite frequently. As you and your comrades point-out --- they apply advanced legal reviews (military and civilian) and proceedings that are not (in any case) self-serving. And there are a number of reasonably solid people that differ.
Historical evidence accumulated from a distance past, only works for one side.
The Arab Palestinians have played cry-baby so much --- over the more than half-century since the Arab League's interdiction of force --- that the demands border on the insane. If the Jewish have a mantra, it is to secure and protect the Citizen and the State of Israel from further attacks and abuse from the regional anti-semitics under the false color of law.
It is OK to listen to Jewish Historians that are pro-Arab Palestinian ---- BUT ---- it is not OK to (say) listen to the authors of Resolution 242.
Most Respectfully,
R
I suggest you get in contact with your boss and ask him why he saId this.It is an Israeli thing to call all Palestinians Arabs. It is their way to erase the existence of Palestinians.Wow, this Monte has some kind of agenda. Actually, I believe the eye-witness accounts. People who were there certainly saw what was going on. There were mainly Jews, then Christians, and Bedouin who came and went as was their habit. The Arabs came later on when there were employment opportunities for them. Unless you only get out of your place for your shock treatments, you certainly must see the changes in the U.S. population. The people who have come here and are still coming from various areas of the world are doing so for the same reason the Arabs left their surrounding Middle East countries.Oh, you mean fact and not bullshit as you post. Who do you think lived in Palestine, Martians? Muslims and Christians lived in Palestine.
By the way, the Christians want to be called Arameans,
Christians in the Holy Land: Don’t Call Us Arabs
You should know that is not true.Palestine is a multi racial, multi religious, multi ethnic place. None of that matters. Palestinians are Palestinians regardless.
Oh please. The only part of "Palestine" which is multi-ethnic and multi-religious is Israel.
Are you saying that Americans are not a legitimate people because we are, for the most part, from someplace else?Even the arab muslim leaders say that the palestinians are migrants from Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Jordan and Saudi.
The nice thing about facts, is that they don't change. Like the fact that you're a moron.
P F Tinmore, et al,
Just like you deny the reality of a Civil War prior to the War of Independence, so it is that you see something within the Treaty of Lausanne that is not there; a political delusion and abnormally meaningless revelation of a latent reality.
You want the outcome to be so necessarily favorable to the Arab Palestinian Cause, that your Mental Acuity become twisted and the Emotional Competence and Rational Understanding become dysfunctional.
(COMMENT)I am just going by what the treaty said.If they are lies then why cant you prove they are, is it because there is no evidence to back you up ?You can throw lies at it as often as you want. It doesn't change the facts.Addressed more times than I can remember.It was clear. Those who normally lived in the territory of Palestine, that was defined by international borders, would be Palestinian citizens. Nobody was excluded and nobody else was included.
What do you have?
You are absolutely correct that the Treaty of Lausanne neither creates nor recognized the new Palestinian national identity. You are correct that neither the citizenship clauses in the Palestine Order in Council, or the 1925 Citizenship Order recognized the new Palestinian national identity. In intent of these three documents in the regard of Citizenship and Nationality was to establish a framework for the international protection of stateless persons. Its specific application to persons within the venue of the Government of Palestine (that being the territory placed in the care of the Mandatory - Briton) was to provide for stateless persons; and that they enjoy, at a minimum, the same treatment as other non-nationals. The solution was to make them citizens under the Government of Palestine. In fact, it was only after the Oslo Agreement that the Palestinian Authority (PA) (created by the Oslo Accords) (1995) was there issuance of a PA Passport.
The Treaty does not further you argument except for the prevention of Stateless Persons as the result of WWII.
Most Respectfully,
R
No one is coming to deny that the Arabs of the land has connection to the homeland, just like the Jews do. But unlike the Jews, they're not told that sitting in a certain areas is illegal just because they're Arabs. Those Palestinians who are not free to sit anywhere on the land is because of the war and because it risks the lives of Jews.
Descrimination is convenient against the Jews of the land.
You're using the continued silly slogans "native people" and "invaders" you typically use without any knowledge of the history and circumstances.P F Tinmore, et al,
Just like you deny the reality of a Civil War prior to the War of Independence, so it is that you see something within the Treaty of Lausanne that is not there; a political delusion and abnormally meaningless revelation of a latent reality.
You want the outcome to be so necessarily favorable to the Arab Palestinian Cause, that your Mental Acuity become twisted and the Emotional Competence and Rational Understanding become dysfunctional.
(COMMENT)I am just going by what the treaty said.If they are lies then why cant you prove they are, is it because there is no evidence to back you up ?You can throw lies at it as often as you want. It doesn't change the facts.Addressed more times than I can remember.
What do you have?
You are absolutely correct that the Treaty of Lausanne neither creates nor recognized the new Palestinian national identity. You are correct that neither the citizenship clauses in the Palestine Order in Council, or the 1925 Citizenship Order recognized the new Palestinian national identity. In intent of these three documents in the regard of Citizenship and Nationality was to establish a framework for the international protection of stateless persons. Its specific application to persons within the venue of the Government of Palestine (that being the territory placed in the care of the Mandatory - Briton) was to provide for stateless persons; and that they enjoy, at a minimum, the same treatment as other non-nationals. The solution was to make them citizens under the Government of Palestine. In fact, it was only after the Oslo Agreement that the Palestinian Authority (PA) (created by the Oslo Accords) (1995) was there issuance of a PA Passport.
The Treaty does not further you argument except for the prevention of Stateless Persons as the result of WWII.
Most Respectfully,
R
Native people defending themselves from a foreign invader is not a civil war. The Jews came from Europe.
You're befuddled, But you knew that. Your version of "Monty facts" tend to be at odds with documented history. We can look to your continued Islamist propaganda that is rife with slogans about some invented Zionist Invasion™ that you believe occurred in your invented "country of Pal'istan"Facts are not slogans. Your Zionist propaganda is fraught with slogans. You understand Zionist propaganda. I state fact. But you knew that.
You are infatuated with your imagination and that's not healthy, nut.It's so enjoyable to watch you defend the indefensible. Keep it up.
It's so enjoyable to watch you defend the indefensible. Keep it up.