The only way to end this conflict is to scrap the UN and replace it.

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The UN was supposedly created to prevent precisely what is happening yet again:
Chapter VII of the United Nations Charter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Chapter VII of the United Nations Charter sets out the UN Security Council's powers to maintain peace. It allows the Council to "determine the existence of any threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression" and to take military and nonmilitary action to "restore international peace and security".
Chapter VII also gives the Military Staff Committee responsibility for strategic coordination of forces placed at the disposal of the UN Security Council.
As if they would even if they could. Beyond declaring resolutions which are routinely ignored they don`t do much else
List of the UN resolutions concerning Israel and Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
As of 2013, Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by United Nations Human Rights Council since its creation in 2006—the Council had resolved almost more resolutions condemning Israel than on the rest of the world combined. The 45 resolutions comprised almost half (45.9%) of all country-specific resolutions passed by the Council, not counting those under Agenda Item 10 (countries requiring technical assistance).[1] From 1967 to 1989 the UN Security Council adopted 131 resolutions directly addressing the Arab–Israeli conflict. In early Security Council practice, resolutions did not directly invoke Chapter VII. They made an explicit determination of a threat, breach of the peace, or act of aggression, and ordered an action in accordance with Article 39 or 40. Resolution 54 determined that a threat to peace existed within the meaning of Article 39 of the Charter, reiterated the need for a truce, and ordered a cease-fire pursuant to Article 40 of the Charter. Although the phrase "Acting under Chapter VII" was never mentioned as the basis for the action taken, the chapter's authority was being used.[2] The United Nations General Assembly has adopted a number of resolutions saying that the strategic relationship with the United States encourages Israel to pursue aggressive and expansionist policies and practices.[3] The 9th Emergency Session of the General Assembly was convened at the request of the Security Council when the United States blocked efforts to adopt sanctions against Israel.[4] The United States responded to the frequent criticism from UN organs by adopting the Negroponte doctrine.
So what exactly is this Negroponte doctrin which supposedly prevents the UN from actually doing the job they are supposed to do?
Negroponte doctrine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
On July 26, 2002, John Negroponte, the United States Ambassador to the United Nations, stated (during a closed meeting of the UN Security Council) that the United States will oppose Security Council resolutions concerning the Israeli–Palestinian conflict that condemn Israel without also condemning terrorist groups. This became known as the Negroponte Doctrine, and has been viewed by officials in the United States as a counterweight to the frequent resolutions denouncing Israel that are passed by the UN General Assembly.
But the UN has "condemned" Hamas since then, so what`s their excuse now?
At the least they could put their boots on the ground in Gaza and put a stop to the violations Hamas commits which leaves Israel very little choice to do what the UN is supposed to do...which in turn is condemned by more of the same UN resolutions.
All we have is a bloated and expensive bureaucracy which is totally impotent when it really matters, but spares no effort and expense to meddle into the internal affairs of other nations which are by no means a threat to international peace and security.
Case in point, the United Nation`s IPCC which keeps telling us that too much plant food is a bigger threat to the entire planet than Hamas is to Israel.
 
I _think_ I agree. It sounds like the UN has so much 'legalese' written into their charter and bylaws as to excuse them of any thing, i.e. they give themselves a loophole for any violation of their own rules.

I have also found it interesting that the people discussing about the I/P conflict pull out some of these resolutions like a gun when it suites their purpose and ignore the others.
 
The UN is a neutral meetings grounds. Nothing more. Countries meet, ally up or condemn something out in the open, and everyone gets to know what mood everyone else is in.

As far as enforcement goes the UN has been and always will be a neutered puppy.
That was my point.
If that`s all they do, why do we need the UN for that?
All the UN is doing, is what the international press is already doing (much better) and they don`t milk your country for mega buck$ to tell you what mood your country is in when conflicts like these erupt.
Since we have the internet anybody who wants to can read what the press of any country has to say about what is happening.
Of course much of it is biased, but so is the UN, the way it`s evolved, or shall we say mutated to, considering what kind of countries are sitting on the UN human rights council.
Why nobody but the US voted against the UN's anti-Israel resolution | The Times of Israel
On Wednesday, the United Nations Human Rights Council voted on a heavily one-sided resolution condemning “in the strongest terms the widespread, systematic and gross violations of international human rights and fundamental freedoms arising from the Israeli military operations” in Gaza. The Geneva-based council, which has a long history of anti-Israel bias, also declared a new “international commission of inquiry” into the events currently unfolding in Israel and Gaza, in what observers are calling a new Goldstone report.
Only the United States voted against the resolution. Twenty-nine nations voted in favor, among them not only the usual suspects such as Saudi Arabia, Algeria and South Africa, but also some ostensible friends of Israel, including Russia, Kenya, India and Mexico.
They forgot to mention some of the other human rights "champions" like China, Algeria, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Costa Rica, Cote d'Ivoire, Cuba, Ethiopia, India, Indonesia, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kuwait, the Maldives, Mexico, Morocco, Namibia, Pakistan, Peru, the Philippines, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Sierra Leone, the United Arab Emirates, Venezuela, and Vietnam.
For F***`s sake not even even Al Jazeera is as biased as that and I could not think of any better way to undermine the UN`s credibility than to let countries like that sit in judgement who should be "condemned" for war crimes.
The UN was created to prevent conflicts just like this one from spiraling out of control, that`s the mandate we gave them + generous funding to carry out this mandate.
But when it came right down to it the UN Chapter VII mandate had to be carried out by NATO forces.
Some of them, like the US already paid more than their share in blood to enforce Chapter VII, but when will some of these Nations who sit on the UN human rights council anti up?
Like China or Russia? Both have the military resources to do so.
Hamas would have a hard time convincing us that countries who have recognized Palestine as a Nation and are hosting Palestinian embassies are "pro-Israel".
I don`t think that Israel would worry much about Chinese or Russian anti-aircraft weapons being deployed in a Gaza "no fly zone".
But they could do a lot more than the UN did when they found a stock pile of Hamas` rockets in a UN building.
It will take a lot more than "condemning" either side to put a stop to this conflict and the best place to start would be to properly police Gaza so that it`s not as easy as it has been so far to build and launch these rockets:
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Strange but true, the fertilizer, the Ammonium Nitrate that Hamas is using to make these rockets comes from Israel:
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If a journalist from "Der Spiegel" can find a bomb factory like this one and also find out how and from where they get the stuff, how hard could it be for say a ~ 25 000 strong UN Chapter VII police from China or Russia to put an end to this.
It`s beginning to look a lot like that many of the countries who make up the UN the way it is today have no interest to do so, ....but rather enable it.
 
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