The Official Discussion Thread for who is considered indiginous to Palestine?

[Open Bolt]

Muslims and Christians revere the patriarchs. Jews were living all over before the birth of Christ... Alexandria, Damascus, Rome, Aleppo, Baghdad, Elephantine island, Persia and all around the Mediterranean sea.

None of that gives anyone the right to steal Jewish land and religious sites.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Muslims and Christians revere the patriarchs. Jews were living all over before the birth of Christ... Alexandria, Damascus, Rome, Aleppo, Baghdad, Elephantine island, Persia and all around the Mediterranean sea.

Muslims do not revere the Patriarchs. They appropriated the Patriarchs, along with everything else which is Jewish, and then called their version of a religion as having surpassed Judaism.

That is called contempt for Judaism, the same contempt Christianity has, which was borrowed by Islam.

They revere the Patriarchs and keep destroying the Tombs of Rachel and Joseph? Or any Jewish History evidence in Israel, Judea, Samaria, or anywhere else?

Do not give us this "Jews lived all over", so did everyone else.

 

[surada]

Muslims do not revere the Patriarchs. They appropriated the Patriarchs, along with everything else which is Jewish, and then called their version of a religion as having surpassed Judaism.

That is called contempt for Judaism, the same contempt Christianity has, which was borrowed by Islam.

They revere the Patriarchs and keep destroying the Tombs of Rachel and Joseph? Or any Jewish History evidence in Israel, Judea, Samaria, or anywhere else?

Do not give us this "Jews lived all over", so did everyone else.

Why do you think that they left Palestine? I see your hatred extends to Christian's too. That's pathetic.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Why do you think that they left Palestine? I see your hatred extends to Christian's too. That's pathetic.

Who left Palestine?
Check with your shrink about seeing hatred everywhere.

 

[rylah]

Muslims and Christians revere the patriarchs. Jews were living all over before the birth of Christ... Alexandria, Damascus, Rome, Aleppo, Baghdad, Elephantine island, Persia and all around the Mediterranean sea.

Muslims don't revere them, they exploit their figures
to spread the lie they were Muslims, try to ban
Jews and destroy their graves.

Yes, living in those places Jews don't claim they belong to them,
meaning they're not indigenous to those places.

Which contradicts your assumptions that Arabs have any right
to rule over the numerous indigenous nations
in the Middle East and Africa.

 

[Open Bolt]

Why do you think that they left Palestine? I see your hatred extends to Christian's too. That's pathetic.

It was also wrong for Xtian crusaders to steal Jewish land and holy sites.

The crusaders should have stuck to their mandate of protecting the Byzantine Empire from Islamic aggression. Imagine history if the Byzantine Empire had continued to stand as a bulwark against Islam.

Although... Dracula did an excellent job of curtailing Islamic aggression into Europe after the Byzantine Empire fell. That was a guy who knew what to do to Muslims when they attack your country. It's a shame he couldn't have been resurrected and placed in charge of America's war on terror.

 

[surada]

It was also wrong for Xtian crusaders to steal Jewish land and holy sites.

The crusaders should have stuck to their mandate of protecting the Byzantine Empire from Islamic aggression. Imagine history if the Byzantine Empire had continued to stand as a bulwark against Islam.

Although... Dracula did an excellent job of curtailing Islamic aggression into Europe after the Byzantine Empire fell. That was a guy who knew what to do to Muslims when they attack your country. It's a shame he couldn't have been resurrected and placed in charge of America's war on terror.

America got a lot of help in the war against terrorism. Do you know any Arabs or Muslims?

 

[Sixties Fan]

America got a lot of help in the war against terrorism. Do you know any Arabs or Muslims?

Stop changing the subject, everyone.

 

[rylah]

Nope. I don't have a problem with a Jewish state at all. I have a problem with the Zionists taking more land than they were given.

The temple was destroyed in 70 AD by the Romans not the Arabs. The Haram Al Shariff has been there nearly 1400 years. It no longer belongs to the Jews. You know the law.

Funny, I don't think going against the hegemony and
kicking Arab tuches is exactly being given something.
Every land in the Levant freed from Arab rule,
is actually blessed liberation.

It were the Arabs who colonized the place with another mosque,
as a sign of their submitting the region to their hegemony.
Neither appealing to law when referring to Sharia,
a relevant argument for Arab hegemony
over indigenous nations.

 

[surada]

Stop changing the subject, everyone.

Okay. You want to concentrate on your victim status.

Funny, I don't think going against the hegemony and
kicking Arab tuches is exactly being given something.
Every land in the Levant freed from Arab rule,
is actually blessed liberation.

It were the Arabs who colonized the place with another mosque,
as a sign of their submitting the region to their hegemony.
Neither appealing to law when referring to Sharia,
a relevant argument for Arab hegemony
over indigenous nations.

Get real. Look what you did to Lebanon.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Okay. You want to concentrate on your victim status.

Get real. Look what you did to Lebanon.

Now you are really showing yourself to be a fool.
If you cannot convince others that your words are right, and they are only words, than you go on your learned nonsense.

You know nothing about Lebanon history and it is not going to be discussed here. Start your own thread about it.

 

[rylah]

Okay. You want to concentrate on your victim status.

Get real. Look what you did to Lebanon.

Seriously, that's your argument for the success
or any justice in the Arab Islamist rule over Lebanon?

Indeed look how short it took to
turn into another failed Arab state...
another argument for why better less of those
in the Middle East, Africa and specifically the Levant.

 

[surada]

Seriously, that's your argument the success
or any justice in the Arab Islamist rule over Lebanon?

Indeed look how short it took for it to turn
into another failed Arab state...

You created enough refugees to flip their demographic in 1948 and in 1967

 

[surada]

Seriously, that's your argument for the success
or any justice in the Arab Islamist rule over Lebanon?

Indeed look how short it took to
turn into another failed Arab state...

Lebanon hasn't been getting US foreign aid since 1948.

 

[rylah]

You created enough refugees to flip their demographic in 1948 and in 1967

There're currently numerous conflicts
between Arabs themselves that make these
less than a drop in the ocean. In fact the main cause of
losses and deaths in the region are Arabs killing other Arabs.

Another reason why Arab hegemony is unjust to indigenous minorities.

 

[surada]

There're currently numerous conflict
between Arabs themselves that make these
less than a drop in the ocean. In fact the main cause of
losses and deaths in the region is Arabs killing other Arabs.

For instance?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Lebanon hasn't been getting US foreign aid since 1948.

Are you incapable of starting your own thread about it?

Jews, like most people, migrated to other places. From China, to Arabia, to India, to North Africa, to Europe in the olden days.

They moved to those lands keeping their religion, not imposing that religion on anyone else, living with the other people in those lands. Even taken by force to Babylon and Rome, they did not later attempt to colonize and take over those lands.

Jews did not mistreat other peoples, attack them, steal from them, force them to accept Judaism as theirs.

And that is totally the opposite of what happened both with Christianity first, and then Islam.

Jews were seen as betrayers of both new religions, and mistreated at every turn.

Arabs, unlike the Jews, moved outside of Arabia to conquer the land and the people, to colonize every place they took, force Islam and Arabic on the population.

The History if Christianity is exactly the same with Spain and England making most of the conquest from 1492 on, forcing Christianity and their languages on the New World populations.


Insist all you want that the Jews are the ones who have taken land from others and are the colonizers of their own ancient homeland.

It does not pass the smell test.

 

[rylah]

For instance?

Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iraq, name it...
Majority of Arab refugees and deaths
are caused under Arab rule.

Only a handful are not a total failure.
What is called the 'Arab world' is the
largest illiterate group on earth.

Another argument why Arab imperialism
has no moral standing to any rule over
the greater indigenous civilizations.

 

[surada]

Are you incapable of starting your own thread about it?

Jews, like most people, migrated to other places. From China, to Arabia, to India, to North Africa, to Europe in the olden days.

They moved to those lands keeping their religion, not imposing that religion on anyone else, living with the other people in those lands. Even taken by force to Babylon and Rome, they did not later attempt to colonize and take over those lands.

Jews did not mistreat other peoples, attack them, steal from them, force them to accept Judaism as theirs.

And that is totally the opposite of what happened both with Christianity first, and then Islam.

Jews were seen as betrayers of both new religions, and mistreated at every turn.

Arabs, unlike the Jews, moved outside of Arabia to conquer the land and the people, to colonize every place they took, force Islam and Arabic on the population.

The History if Christianity is exactly the same with Spain and England making most of the conquest from 1492 on, forcing Christianity and their languages on the New World populations.


Insist all you want that the Jews are the ones who have taken land from others and are the colonizers of their own ancient homeland.

It does not pass the smell test.

So why leave Palestine?

 

[Sixties Fan]

You created enough refugees to flip their demographic in 1948 and in 1967

Al Husseini and his riots and incitement against the Indigenous Jewish people caused the refugee issues on both sides. Dare to forget how Jews were expelled in 1925, 1929, 1948 from their rightful homes.