The official 'Black Deaths Matter' Thread.

[ninja007]

Racism is part of the fabric of YOUR LIFE that is obvious. Any health damage you keep whining about is due to the seething hatred you have for White people. There are millions of Black people who totally disagree with you and are happy, healthy proud Americans.

uncle toms he calls them all; bottom line is im2 is a liberal 1st, black 2nd.

 

[ninja007]

That idiot argument has no merit. People have no criminal records get guns and kill people.

people who get guns who kill people arent criminal? lol

 

[IM2]

people who get guns who kill people arent criminal? lol

Like I said idiot, people with no criminal records get guns. You're not a criminal until you commit a crime.

 

[LOIE]

ban guns? lol.

Countries like the U.K., New Zealand and Australia enacted laws that banned certain guns after they experienced mass shootings and the rate of homicides went down in each place. It is possible.

 

[MarathonMike]

Like I've been saying for 2 years now, you can't ignore inner city violence. It is a cancer. Well the cancer is spreading. Last weekend multiple mass shootings in multiple cities. Defund the Police. Black Lives Matter. Ban assault weapons. Release the prisoners. Ignore the drug/gang killings. And here we are.,

 

[IM2]

Like I've been saying for 2 years now, you can't ignore inner city violence. It is a cancer. Well the cancer is spreading. Last weekend multiple mass shootings in multiple cities. Defund the Police. Black Lives Matter. Ban assault weapons. Release the prisoners. Ignore the drug/gang killings. And here we are.,

Those mass shootings didn't happen in inner cities idiot.

At least 17 killed, 62 injured in mass shootings across US over weekend

The cancer is the white racism that has people buying guns hoping they can shoot somebody black and claim they were defending themselves.

 

[JoeB131]

Like I've been saying for 2 years now, you can't ignore inner city violence. It is a cancer. Well the cancer is spreading. Last weekend multiple mass shootings in multiple cities. Defund the Police. Black Lives Matter. Ban assault weapons. Release the prisoners. Ignore the drug/gang killings. And here we are.,

Um, yeah, we have violence because we have too many guns on the streets, too much poverty, we treat addiction like a criminal problem instead of a medical one, and we have too many mentally ill people roaming free. This isn't just an "inner city" problem, as much as you want to make it one.

 

[MarathonMike]

Just another weekend in Shoot Em Up Chicago. 27 shot, 6 killed in multiple shootings across the city. Golly it's a good thing it wasn't a single shooter with an AR-15. It's so much better that the injuries and deaths were caused by handguns.

6 killed, Chicago police officer, 2 children among 27 others wounded in weekend shootings across Chicago

Six people were killed and a Chicago police officer and two children were among at least 27 others wounded in weekend shootings across Chicago.

www.fox32chicago.com

 

[LOIE]

Like I've been saying for 2 years now, you can't ignore inner city violence. It is a cancer. Well the cancer is spreading. Last weekend multiple mass shootings in multiple cities. Defund the Police. Black Lives Matter. Ban assault weapons. Release the prisoners. Ignore the drug/gang killings. And here we are.,

No, you cannot ignore inner city violence. Neither can you ignore violence in rural areas or small towns or suburbs. We are a violent nation which has more guns than people. We worship guns more than God. We defend the right to bear arms more than we defend the right to life. We have been doing so for a very long time. But with the added stress of the pandemic and isolation, it has worsened, and we have decided that guns are going to save us.

I found a great article on inner city violence which actually has some suggestions as to how to address the issue - by getting to the core issues. I've cut and pasted parts of it since it was pretty long.

'We Should Have a Handle on This by Now.' As Inner-City Neighborhoods See a Surge in Gun Violence, These Are the Changes Community Leaders Say They Need by Carl Day and Van Jones

“In inner-city communities, you often see high levels of poverty and a lack of economic opportunity for people who have been systematically disenfranchised by the criminal justice system,” says Josh Horwitz, Executive Director of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. “When you add the easy access to firearms, that’s when you have this grinding daily gun violence.”

Rather than seeing gun violence as a crime problem, Cure Violence addresses it like a health crisis, using “violence interrupters” who work to mediate issues in the community between individuals who would otherwise be considered at risk of resorting to violence.

Activists across the U.S. are calling for social work and community-led programs that use “violence interrupters” to be properly funded in a city’s budget and supported as an example of successful de-escalation and de-policing.

Under Mayor Bowser’s public safety agenda, the Office of Neighborhood Safety and Engagement (ONSE) approaches community safety in a similar fashion to Cure Violence, using “nonviolent interrupters” to curtail and de-escalate risk factors in the communities.

But Bowser also notes that the District — which requires background checks along with a licensing process for firearm sales, and imposes strict regulations and rules on gun dealers — is surrounded by states with far less stringent gun laws. This means it is often all too easy for weapons to find their way into the nation’s capital across porous state borders.

In Virginia, a state which borders D.C., gun dealers do not need a state license to sell. Background checks are not required for the transfer of weapons between individuals, while gun owners also do not have to report if a gun is stolen or misplaced.

“If I had one thing to ask our federal partners, it is ‘how do we prevent the free flow of illegal guns into urban areas?’” Mayor Bowser said. (The governor’s office in Virginia did not return TIME’s request for comment.)

During a CNN interview on Sunday, Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot echoed Bowser’s point. “Our gun problem is related to the fact that we have too many illegal guns in our streets — 60% of which come from states outside of Illinois,” Lightfoot said. “We are being inundated with guns from states that have virtually no gun control, no background checks, no ban on assault weapons.”

James Aye, who runs Yeah Philly, a nonprofit organization in Philadelphia that supports teens impacted by gun violence, says the city’s police put too much focus on finding weapons and arresting people, without addressing the root causes of gun violence. The city’s police department “doesn’t know how to engage with people,” Aye says. “They’ll do these single-day events [like charity work or neighborhood gatherings], but there needs to be more consistency.”

But Daniel Webster, a professor at John Hopkins who specializes in firearm policy and the prevention of gun violence, notes that most police departments are just not built to deal with the structural disadvantages many communities struggling with gun violence face. “That’s not what [the police] do. They don’t build education, they don’t build jobs, they are not there making sure that people who are leaving incarceration have services that help them get an education and have other options,” Webster says. “They don’t control the environment, they just police it.”

Activists agree that crime in these communities stems largely from endemic socioeconomic disadvantages. Only when there is a consistent effort to address these problems, crime rates will fall, they believe.

“Until structural issues are addressed — people having access to basic needs like affordable food, economic opportunities, housing opportunities — the violence isn’t really going to change,” says Kendra Vandewater, a member of the Anti-Violence Partnership of Philadelphia and the co-founder of Yeah Philly. “The interventions that we have for violence don’t address people’s immediate needs. It’s very reactive.”

 

[MarathonMike]

No, you cannot ignore inner city violence. Neither can you ignore violence in rural areas or small towns or suburbs. We are a violent nation which has more guns than people. We worship guns more than God. We defend the right to bear arms more than we defend the right to life. We have been doing so for a very long time. But with the added stress of the pandemic and isolation, it has worsened, and we have decided that guns are going to save us.

I found a great article on inner city violence which actually has some suggestions as to how to address the issue - by getting to the core issues. I've cut and pasted parts of it since it was pretty long.

'We Should Have a Handle on This by Now.' As Inner-City Neighborhoods See a Surge in Gun Violence, These Are the Changes Community Leaders Say They Need by Carl Day and Van Jones

“In inner-city communities, you often see high levels of poverty and a lack of economic opportunity for people who have been systematically disenfranchised by the criminal justice system,” says Josh Horwitz, Executive Director of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. “When you add the easy access to firearms, that’s when you have this grinding daily gun violence.”

Rather than seeing gun violence as a crime problem, Cure Violence addresses it like a health crisis, using “violence interrupters” who work to mediate issues in the community between individuals who would otherwise be considered at risk of resorting to violence.

Activists across the U.S. are calling for social work and community-led programs that use “violence interrupters” to be properly funded in a city’s budget and supported as an example of successful de-escalation and de-policing.

Under Mayor Bowser’s public safety agenda, the Office of Neighborhood Safety and Engagement (ONSE) approaches community safety in a similar fashion to Cure Violence, using “nonviolent interrupters” to curtail and de-escalate risk factors in the communities.

But Bowser also notes that the District — which requires background checks along with a licensing process for firearm sales, and imposes strict regulations and rules on gun dealers — is surrounded by states with far less stringent gun laws. This means it is often all too easy for weapons to find their way into the nation’s capital across porous state borders.

In Virginia, a state which borders D.C., gun dealers do not need a state license to sell. Background checks are not required for the transfer of weapons between individuals, while gun owners also do not have to report if a gun is stolen or misplaced.

“If I had one thing to ask our federal partners, it is ‘how do we prevent the free flow of illegal guns into urban areas?’” Mayor Bowser said. (The governor’s office in Virginia did not return TIME’s request for comment.)

During a CNN interview on Sunday, Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot echoed Bowser’s point. “Our gun problem is related to the fact that we have too many illegal guns in our streets — 60% of which come from states outside of Illinois,” Lightfoot said. “We are being inundated with guns from states that have virtually no gun control, no background checks, no ban on assault weapons.”

James Aye, who runs Yeah Philly, a nonprofit organization in Philadelphia that supports teens impacted by gun violence, says the city’s police put too much focus on finding weapons and arresting people, without addressing the root causes of gun violence. The city’s police department “doesn’t know how to engage with people,” Aye says. “They’ll do these single-day events [like charity work or neighborhood gatherings], but there needs to be more consistency.”

But Daniel Webster, a professor at John Hopkins who specializes in firearm policy and the prevention of gun violence, notes that most police departments are just not built to deal with the structural disadvantages many communities struggling with gun violence face. “That’s not what [the police] do. They don’t build education, they don’t build jobs, they are not there making sure that people who are leaving incarceration have services that help them get an education and have other options,” Webster says. “They don’t control the environment, they just police it.”

Activists agree that crime in these communities stems largely from endemic socioeconomic disadvantages. Only when there is a consistent effort to address these problems, crime rates will fall, they believe.

“Until structural issues are addressed — people having access to basic needs like affordable food, economic opportunities, housing opportunities — the violence isn’t really going to change,” says Kendra Vandewater, a member of the Anti-Violence Partnership of Philadelphia and the co-founder of Yeah Philly. “The interventions that we have for violence don’t address people’s immediate needs. It’s very reactive.”

I actually agree with much of what the article talks about. The fuel that drives the violence and death in the inner cities is a massive inflow of illegal drugs and handguns. The problem is Bowser and the rest of the Democratic leaders of these cities refuses to get tough on the offenders. You have to provide new opportunities get the youth away from the drug gangs and the control of the cartels. But you also have to have a zero tolerance for random gun fights in the streets and a strong but fair police presence. I frequently post about Pastor Corey Brooks who has been working to build a huge jobs/community center in Chicago to get the youth away from gangs and on a better path. He has had ZERO SUPPORT from Chicago city leaders. Mayor Lightfoot has not even mentioned his name.

 

[MarathonMike]

De Avry Thomas' murderer has been arrested! Markez Anger is in custody. Cold comfort to De Avry's family but maybe they will get a measure of justice for this senseless killing.

Pittsburgh police make second arrest in shooting death of 18-month-old baby in downtown Pittsburgh

Pittsburgh police have made an arrest in the shooting death of an 18-month-old baby in downtown Pittsburgh last month.

www.wpxi.com

 

[horselightning]

No, you cannot ignore inner city violence. Neither can you ignore violence in rural areas or small towns or suburbs. We are a violent nation which has more guns than people. We worship guns more than God. We defend the right to bear arms more than we defend the right to life. We have been doing so for a very long time. But with the added stress of the pandemic and isolation, it has worsened, and we have decided that guns are going to save us.

I found a great article on inner city violence which actually has some suggestions as to how to address the issue - by getting to the core issues. I've cut and pasted parts of it since it was pretty long.

'We Should Have a Handle on This by Now.' As Inner-City Neighborhoods See a Surge in Gun Violence, These Are the Changes Community Leaders Say They Need by Carl Day and Van Jones

“In inner-city communities, you often see high levels of poverty and a lack of economic opportunity for people who have been systematically disenfranchised by the criminal justice system,” says Josh Horwitz, Executive Director of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. “When you add the easy access to firearms, that’s when you have this grinding daily gun violence.”

Rather than seeing gun violence as a crime problem, Cure Violence addresses it like a health crisis, using “violence interrupters” who work to mediate issues in the community between individuals who would otherwise be considered at risk of resorting to violence.

Activists across the U.S. are calling for social work and community-led programs that use “violence interrupters” to be properly funded in a city’s budget and supported as an example of successful de-escalation and de-policing.

Under Mayor Bowser’s public safety agenda, the Office of Neighborhood Safety and Engagement (ONSE) approaches community safety in a similar fashion to Cure Violence, using “nonviolent interrupters” to curtail and de-escalate risk factors in the communities.

But Bowser also notes that the District — which requires background checks along with a licensing process for firearm sales, and imposes strict regulations and rules on gun dealers — is surrounded by states with far less stringent gun laws. This means it is often all too easy for weapons to find their way into the nation’s capital across porous state borders.

In Virginia, a state which borders D.C., gun dealers do not need a state license to sell. Background checks are not required for the transfer of weapons between individuals, while gun owners also do not have to report if a gun is stolen or misplaced.

“If I had one thing to ask our federal partners, it is ‘how do we prevent the free flow of illegal guns into urban areas?’” Mayor Bowser said. (The governor’s office in Virginia did not return TIME’s request for comment.)

During a CNN interview on Sunday, Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot echoed Bowser’s point. “Our gun problem is related to the fact that we have too many illegal guns in our streets — 60% of which come from states outside of Illinois,” Lightfoot said. “We are being inundated with guns from states that have virtually no gun control, no background checks, no ban on assault weapons.”

James Aye, who runs Yeah Philly, a nonprofit organization in Philadelphia that supports teens impacted by gun violence, says the city’s police put too much focus on finding weapons and arresting people, without addressing the root causes of gun violence. The city’s police department “doesn’t know how to engage with people,” Aye says. “They’ll do these single-day events [like charity work or neighborhood gatherings], but there needs to be more consistency.”

But Daniel Webster, a professor at John Hopkins who specializes in firearm policy and the prevention of gun violence, notes that most police departments are just not built to deal with the structural disadvantages many communities struggling with gun violence face. “That’s not what [the police] do. They don’t build education, they don’t build jobs, they are not there making sure that people who are leaving incarceration have services that help them get an education and have other options,” Webster says. “They don’t control the environment, they just police it.”

Activists agree that crime in these communities stems largely from endemic socioeconomic disadvantages. Only when there is a consistent effort to address these problems, crime rates will fall, they believe.

“Until structural issues are addressed — people having access to basic needs like affordable food, economic opportunities, housing opportunities — the violence isn’t really going to change,” says Kendra Vandewater, a member of the Anti-Violence Partnership of Philadelphia and the co-founder of Yeah Philly. “The interventions that we have for violence don’t address people’s immediate needs. It’s very reactive.”

The countries with the ten highest crime rates, expressed in per 100,000 people, globally are:

1. Venezuela (83.76)
2. Papua New Guinea (80.79)
3. South Africa (76.86)
4. Afghanistan (76.31)
5. Honduras (74.54)
6. Trinidad and Tobago (71.63)
7. Guyana (68.74)
8. El Salvador (67.79)
9. Brazil (67.49)
10. Jamaica (67.42)

were is the us? 56 on the lisl.t so no we are not the most dangerous country on the planet.

 

[JoeB131]

were is the us? 56 on the lisl.t so no we are not the most dangerous country on the planet.

Why do you think "Well, we are better than improverished third world countries" is a good argument.

 

[horselightning]

Why do you think "Well, we are better than improverished third world countries" is a good argument.

we are 56 on the list of dangerous . yet you calls us the most dangerous country. do some research.

 

[JoeB131]

we are 56 on the list of dangerous . yet you calls us the most dangerous country. do some research.

Um, no, I didn't

We are the most dangerous ADVANCED country. No industrialized democracy has our levels of crime.

 

[Meathead]

Um, no, I didn't

We are the most dangerous ADVANCED country. No industrialized democracy has our levels of crime.

Yes, but you see, diversity is our strength. LOL

 

[horselightning]

Um, no, I didn't

We are the most dangerous ADVANCED country. No industrialized democracy has our levels of crime.

yes you did

 

[IM2]

No, you cannot ignore inner city violence. Neither can you ignore violence in rural areas or small towns or suburbs. We are a violent nation which has more guns than people. We worship guns more than God. We defend the right to bear arms more than we defend the right to life. We have been doing so for a very long time. But with the added stress of the pandemic and isolation, it has worsened, and we have decided that guns are going to save us.

I found a great article on inner city violence which actually has some suggestions as to how to address the issue - by getting to the core issues. I've cut and pasted parts of it since it was pretty long.

'We Should Have a Handle on This by Now.' As Inner-City Neighborhoods See a Surge in Gun Violence, These Are the Changes Community Leaders Say They Need by Carl Day and Van Jones

“In inner-city communities, you often see high levels of poverty and a lack of economic opportunity for people who have been systematically disenfranchised by the criminal justice system,” says Josh Horwitz, Executive Director of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. “When you add the easy access to firearms, that’s when you have this grinding daily gun violence.”

Rather than seeing gun violence as a crime problem, Cure Violence addresses it like a health crisis, using “violence interrupters” who work to mediate issues in the community between individuals who would otherwise be considered at risk of resorting to violence.

Activists across the U.S. are calling for social work and community-led programs that use “violence interrupters” to be properly funded in a city’s budget and supported as an example of successful de-escalation and de-policing.

Under Mayor Bowser’s public safety agenda, the Office of Neighborhood Safety and Engagement (ONSE) approaches community safety in a similar fashion to Cure Violence, using “nonviolent interrupters” to curtail and de-escalate risk factors in the communities.

But Bowser also notes that the District — which requires background checks along with a licensing process for firearm sales, and imposes strict regulations and rules on gun dealers — is surrounded by states with far less stringent gun laws. This means it is often all too easy for weapons to find their way into the nation’s capital across porous state borders.

In Virginia, a state which borders D.C., gun dealers do not need a state license to sell. Background checks are not required for the transfer of weapons between individuals, while gun owners also do not have to report if a gun is stolen or misplaced.

“If I had one thing to ask our federal partners, it is ‘how do we prevent the free flow of illegal guns into urban areas?’” Mayor Bowser said. (The governor’s office in Virginia did not return TIME’s request for comment.)

During a CNN interview on Sunday, Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot echoed Bowser’s point. “Our gun problem is related to the fact that we have too many illegal guns in our streets — 60% of which come from states outside of Illinois,” Lightfoot said. “We are being inundated with guns from states that have virtually no gun control, no background checks, no ban on assault weapons.”

James Aye, who runs Yeah Philly, a nonprofit organization in Philadelphia that supports teens impacted by gun violence, says the city’s police put too much focus on finding weapons and arresting people, without addressing the root causes of gun violence. The city’s police department “doesn’t know how to engage with people,” Aye says. “They’ll do these single-day events [like charity work or neighborhood gatherings], but there needs to be more consistency.”

But Daniel Webster, a professor at John Hopkins who specializes in firearm policy and the prevention of gun violence, notes that most police departments are just not built to deal with the structural disadvantages many communities struggling with gun violence face. “That’s not what [the police] do. They don’t build education, they don’t build jobs, they are not there making sure that people who are leaving incarceration have services that help them get an education and have other options,” Webster says. “They don’t control the environment, they just police it.”

Activists agree that crime in these communities stems largely from endemic socioeconomic disadvantages. Only when there is a consistent effort to address these problems, crime rates will fall, they believe.

“Until structural issues are addressed — people having access to basic needs like affordable food, economic opportunities, housing opportunities — the violence isn’t really going to change,” says Kendra Vandewater, a member of the Anti-Violence Partnership of Philadelphia and the co-founder of Yeah Philly. “The interventions that we have for violence don’t address people’s immediate needs. It’s very reactive.”

People like Mike have no solutions and furthermore based on personal experience they won't support ideas from people in those communities financially in order for change to be created. You have presented a holistic look, but Mike wants to talk about unwed births and fatherless homes.

The problem is economic development. If teens in the hood had the availability of retail jobs that exist in the suburbs you would not have the dominance of drug sales and the crime that goes with it. But instead of understanding that, we see lectures about how black men are irresponsible and black women are sluts.

So until whites like mike learn to listen he is going to use the deaths of black children to spew racist filth and will dismiss expert knowledge of what black communities need from members in those black communities. Almost 300,000 blacks died last year from hypertension. Hypertension caused by stress. Stress caused by living with racism. That stress along with access to gun is a factor relative to inner city violence. But Mike can't see that because it doesn't fit his paternalistic belief that he can preach to black people about how we should live. He dismisses the 600 blacks who die each day from that hypertension and has demanded to see death certificates proving death being caused by racism because he's obtuse. For some reason people who think like him believe that racism is no big thing, it causes no physical or psychological harm.

He has dissed studies as leftist propaganda because they don't fit his narrative. But if he is going to create a thread about black deaths, those are black deaths. But those deaths don't fit his racist assumptions.

This is nothing more than a white racist baith thread and it should be treated as such.

 

[ninja007]

People like Mike have no solutions and furthermore based on personal experience they won't support ideas from people in those communities financially in order for change to be created. You have presented a holistic look, but Mike wants to talk about unwed births and fatherless homes.

The problem is economic development. If teens in the hood had the availability of retail jobs that exist in the suburbs you would not have the dominance of drug sales and the crime that goes with it. But instead of understanding that, we see lectures about how black men are irresponsible and black women are sluts.

So until whites like mike learn to listen he is going to use the deaths of black children to spew racist filth and will dismiss expert knowledge of what black communities need from members in those black communities. Almost 300,000 blacks died last year from hypertension. Hypertension caused by stress. Stress caused by living with racism. That stress along with access to gun is a factor relative to inner city violence. But Mike can't see that because it doesn't fit his paternalistic belief that he can preach to black people about how we should live. He dismisses the 600 blacks who die each day from that hypertension and has demanded to see death certificates proving death being caused by racism because he's obtuse. For some reason people who think like him believe that racism is no big thing, it causes no physical or psychological harm.

He has dissed studies as leftist propaganda because they don't fit his narrative. But if he is going to create a thread about black deaths, those are black deaths. But those deaths don't fit his racist assumptions.

This is nothing more than a white racist baith thread and it should be treated as such.

yes because we all know black teen wanna work an honest job for minimum wage instead of making more money in one day dealing then theyd make all month lmfao.

 

[IM2]

yes because we all know black teen wanna work an honest job for minimum wage instead of making more money in one day dealing then theyd make all month lmfao.

We do know that. You racists assume things but you assume incorrectly.