The Myth of Sanders’ Socialism

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Cuba is not a concentration camp, and anyone is free to move around as they want.
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you mean put together a raft out of plastic bottles and move around to the USA as long as they don't drown trying to escape???

 

[Rigby5]

Cubans do not live in concentration camps, and can easily get the news any time they want.

The island is a concentration camp with little contact with the outside world allowed. People try to escape on rafts and many die.In 2016, as many anticipated a change in U.S. immigration policy, 5,396 Cubans were intercepted by the Coast Guard and more than 56,000 Cubans arrived in U.S. territory through different routes — mainly across the border with Mexico.

Cuba sells services to foreign nations, like to build the airport in Grenada, to work in Angola, etc.
If Cubans wanted to leave Cuba, it would be easy to do so, anytime.
But they like to come to the US because they get priority treatment, for political purposes.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

No, totally wrong.
Hitler has signed alliance pacts with Russia.

If I disagreed I'll pay you $10,000. Bet?????

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

If Cubans wanted to leave Cuba, it would be easy to do so, anytime.
But they like to come to the US because they get priority treatment, for political purposes.

Do you see any Cubans in Florida who want to go back to Castro's concentration camp and live on $240/ month??

 

[Rigby5]

We support dictators because they help us steal.

Do you have an example of this to help make your point or just another anti American lie????

Here are the top 5 brutal dictators the US supported.

5 Brutal Dictators The U.S. Helped Slaughter Hundreds Of Thousands

But a good example is Syngman Rhee.

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Rhee Syngman ; 26 March 1875 – 19 July 1965) was a South Korean politician who served as the first president of South Korea from 1948 to 1960. Rhee was the first and the last president of the Provisional Government of the Republic of Korea from 1919 to 1925 and 1947 to 1948, and was elected President of South Korea in the 1948 presidential election. Rhee oversaw the transfer of power from the United States Army Military Government in Korea to the Government of South Korea and the establishment of the First Republic of Korea. Rhee adopted a strongly anti-communist and pro-American stance, and led South Korea through the Korean War from 1950 to 1953. He obtained a Bachelor of Arts from George Washington University in 1907, and a Master of Arts from Harvard University in 1908. In 1910, he obtained a Ph.D. from Princeton University.
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Political repression
Soon after taking office, Rhee enacted laws that severely curtailed political dissent. There was much controversy between Rhee and his leftist opponents. Allegedly, many of the leftist opponents were arrested and in some cases killed. The most controversial issue has been Kim Gu's assassination. On 26 June 1949, Kim Gu was assassinated by Ahn Doo-hee, who confessed that he assassinated Kim Gu by the order of Kim Chang-ryong. The assassin was described by the British historian Max Hastings as one of Rhee's "creatures".[21] It soon became apparent that Rhee would be a dictator.[22] He allowed the internal security force (headed by his right-hand man, Kim Chang-ryong) to detain and torture suspected communists and North Korean agents. His government also oversaw several massacres, including the suppression of the Jeju uprising on Jeju island, of which South Korea's Truth Commission reported 14,373 victims, 86% at the hands of the security forces and 13.9% at the hands of communist rebels,[23] and the Mungyeong massacre.

By early 1950 Rhee had about 30,000 alleged communists in his jails, and had about 300,000 suspected sympathizers enrolled in an official "re-education" movement called the Bodo League. When the Communist army attacked from the North in June, retreating South Korean forces executed the prisoners, along with several tens of thousands of Bodo League members.
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[EdwardBaiamonte]

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If Cubans wanted to leave Cuba, it would be easy to do so, anytime.

you think leaving on a homemade raft to cross the ocean is easy????

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

But a good example is Syngman Rhee.

that was during the cold war when we trying to save the world from liberal communism which had just killed 150 million innocent souls. Do you understand that we were doing Gods work???

 

[Rigby5]

If Cubans wanted to leave Cuba, it would be easy to do so, anytime.
But they like to come to the US because they get priority treatment, for political purposes.

Do you see any Cubans in Florida who want to go back to Castro's concentration camp and live on $240/ month??

The poor economic conditions in Cuba are the fault of the US.
But notice that Elian Gonzales was returned to Cuba because his father wanted to stay in Cuba?

 

[Rigby5]

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If Cubans wanted to leave Cuba, it would be easy to do so, anytime.

you think leaving on a homemade raft to cross the ocean is easy????

I pointed out that labor leaves the country all the time, and it would be then trivial to then just stay in those countries, or go anywhere they wanted to from there.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The poor economic conditions in Cuba are the fault of the US.

?? And poor economic conditions in USSR and Red China that slowly starved 150 million to death are fault of USA or fault of liberal communism??

 

[gipper]

The US government has supported fascist dictators for decades. Still does. So, what you bitching about?

When we do it it is because they are better than the left wing alternative. Now do you understand?

WTF. That’s nuts.

 

[Rigby5]

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If Cubans wanted to leave Cuba, it would be easy to do so, anytime.

you think leaving on a homemade raft to cross the ocean is easy????

There have been people who swim the 110 miles.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

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If Cubans wanted to leave Cuba, it would be easy to do so, anytime.

you think leaving on a homemade raft to cross the ocean is easy????

I pointed out that labor leaves the country all the time, and it would be then trivial to then just stay in those countries, or go anywhere they wanted to from there.

yes some are loyal and some want to risk their lives on a raft going to freedom in the USA. Do you understand??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

There have been people who swim the 110 miles.

so???????????????????????

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

WTF. That’s nuts.

can you think hard and then try to tell us why its nuts???

 

[Rigby5]

But a good example is Syngman Rhee.

that was during the cold war when we trying to save the world from liberal communism which had just killed 150 million innocent souls. Do you understand that we were doing Gods work???

No, the Koreans had fought the Japanese in order to be free, and did not want the US bringing in dictators who worked for the industrialists who had collaborated with the Japanese.
The only murders in Korea were by the US, by supporting Syngman Rhee.
He was the one who started all the murders.

 

[Rigby5]

The poor economic conditions in Cuba are the fault of the US.

?? And poor economic conditions in USSR and Red China that slowly starved 150 million to death are fault of USA or fault of liberal communism??

The economic problems in the USSR and Red China were a combination of incompetence and deliberate.
They had nothing to do with communism, as Stalin and Mao were capitalists and not communists.
They had killed off all the actual communists, so that they could play their charade.

 

[gipper]

WTF. That’s nuts.

can you think hard and then try to tell us why its nuts???

You clearly haven’t educated yourself on US foreign policy history.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

But a good example is Syngman Rhee.

that was during the cold war when we trying to save the world from liberal communism which had just killed 150 million innocent souls. Do you understand that we were doing Gods work???

No, the Koreans had fought the Japanese in order to be free, and did not want the US bringing in dictators who worked for the industrialists who had collaborated with the Japanese.
The only murders in Korea were by the US, by supporting Syngman Rhee.
He was the one who started all the murders.

it was cold war. Koreans all got rich while the communists slowly starved 150 million to death. If Korea had gone communist perhaps 10 million Koreans would have starved. You have some fascination with millions of dead don't you.

 

[Rigby5]

There have been people who swim the 110 miles.

so???????????????????????

Not only is Cuba near to Florida and Mexico, but there is no problem leaving Cuba for work anywhere in the world.
But the Cubans choose not to.