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The most epic betrayal in the history of politics

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As usual, Ann Coulter is dead on when she defines the make-or-break issue facing the Trump Presidency, the Republican Party, and the United States. It's the Wall, stupid.

Fake News’ question of the week: Will Trump risk a government shutdown over the wall?

The media flip back and forth on who’s to blame for a government shutdown depending on which branch is controlled by Republicans. But the “shutdown” hypothetical in this case is a trick question.

A failure to build the wall IS a government shutdown.

Dems will absolutely lose if they force a shut down over the wall.


Of course it would be unfortunate if schoolchildren couldn’t visit national parks and welfare checks didn’t get mailed on time. But arranging White House tours isn’t the primary function of the government.

The government’s No. 1 job is to protect the nation.

This has always been true, but it’s especially important at this moment in history, when we have drugs, gang members, diseases and terrorists pouring across our border. The failure of the government to close our border is the definition of a government shutdown.

This isn’t like other shutdowns. Democrats can’t wail about Republicans cutting Social Security or school lunches. They are willing to shut the government down because they don’t want borders.

Take that to the country!
Only Republicans could be so massively stupid they would fail to capitalize on the political gold mine the Wall represents.

As Commander In Chief, Trump doesn’t need Congress to build a wall. The Constitution charges him with defending the nation. Contrary to what you may have heard from various warmongers on TV and in Trump’s Cabinet, that means defending our borders—not Ukraine’s borders.

Building a wall is not only Trump’s constitutional duty, but it’s also massively popular.

Although Trump doesn’t need congressional approval for a wall, it was smart for him to demand a vote. Let the Democrats run for re-election on opposing the wall.

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Republicans are both corrupt and stupid, so it’s hard to tell which one animates their opposition to the wall. But the Democrats are bluffing. They’re trying to get the GOP to fold before they show us their pair of threes.

Now that Trump has capitulated on even asking for funding for a wall, the Democrats are on their knees saying, “Thank you, God! Thank you, God!”

No politician wants to have to explain a vote against the wall. What the Democrats want is for Trump to be stuck explaining why he didn’t build the wall.

Then it will be a bloodbath. Not only Trump, but also the entire GOP, is dead if he doesn’t build a wall. Republicans will be wiped out in the midterms, Democrats will have a 300-seat House majority, and Trump will have to come up with an excuse for why he’s not running for re-election.

The New York Times and MSNBC are not going to say, “We are so impressed with his growth in office, we’re going to drop all that nonsense about Russia and endorse the Republican ticket!”

No, at that point, Trump will be the worst of everything.

No one voted for Trump because of the “Access Hollywood” tape. They voted for him because of his issues; most prominently, his promise to build “a big beautiful wall.” And who‘s going to pay for it? MEXICO!

You can’t say that at every campaign rally for 18 months and then not build a wall.

Do not imagine that a Trump double-cross on the wall will not destroy the Republican Party. Oh, we’ll get them back. No, you won’t. Trump wasn’t a distraction: He was the last chance to save the GOP.

Millions of Americans who hadn’t voted in 30 years came out in 2016 to vote for Trump. If he betrays them, they’ll say, “You see? I told you. They’re all crooks.”

No excuses will work. No fiery denunciations of the courts, the Democrats or La Raza will win them back, even if Trump comes up with demeaning Twitter names for them.

It would be an epic betrayal—worse than Bush betraying voters on “no new taxes.” Worse than LBJ escalating the Vietnam War. There would be nothing like it in the history of politics.

He’s the commander in chief! He said he’d build a wall. If he can’t do that, Trump is finished, the Republican Party is finished, and the country is finished.
 

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Just culling a coupla canards outta the middle:

This has always been true, but it’s especially important at this moment in history, when we have drugs, gang members, diseases and terrorists pouring across our border.

Except we don't. That's the strawman myth upon which is built the "wall". Which, in turn, is as transparent as glass for anyone who cares to inspect the reality. As, f'rinstance, National Review did.
It's well known that most illegal immigration comes from overstaying visas. The "wall" is a myth that can't be built, built on a myth of teeming hordes of terrorists that don't exist, to sell snake oil to the gullible.

As the Rump "University" playbook candidly put it, "you don't sell solutions --- you sell feelings". Which is exactly what Rump the con artist did. But to do that he needed complicity from the Gullibles.

This isn’t like other shutdowns. Democrats can’t wail about Republicans cutting Social Security or school lunches. They are willing to shut the government down because they don’t want borders.

A bullshit "wall" is not a "border". The border already exists. And the border in question is more secure than ever. Prove it isn't. Prove that, because that's the bullshit your whole thread hangs on.
 
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Just culling a coupla canards outta the middle:

This has always been true, but it’s especially important at this moment in history, when we have drugs, gang members, diseases and terrorists pouring across our border.

Except we don't. That's the strawman myth upon which is built the "wall". Which, in turn, is as transparent as glass for anyone who cares to inspect the reality. As, f'rinstance, National Review did.
It's well known that most illegal immigration comes from overstaying visas. The "wall" is a myth that can't be built, built on a myth of teeming hordes of terrorists that don't exist, to sell snake oil to the gullible.

As the Rump "University" playbook candidly put it, "you don't sell solutions --- you sell feelings". Which is exactly what Rump the con artist did. But to do that he needed complicity from the Gullibles. And there you are --- batter up.


This isn’t like other shutdowns. Democrats can’t wail about Republicans cutting Social Security or school lunches. They are willing to shut the government down because they don’t want borders.

An imaginary "wall" is not a "border". And the border in question is more secure than ever. Prove it isn't. Prove that, because that's the bullshit your whole thread hangs on.
It's safer since Trump took office. Under shit stain it was at least 70 percent worse.
 

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he's going to build the wall.
 

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Just culling a coupla canards outta the middle:

This has always been true, but it’s especially important at this moment in history, when we have drugs, gang members, diseases and terrorists pouring across our border.

Except we don't. That's the strawman myth upon which is built the "wall". Which, in turn, is as transparent as glass for anyone who cares to inspect the reality. As, f'rinstance, National Review did.
It's well known that most illegal immigration comes from overstaying visas. The "wall" is a myth that can't be built, built on a myth of teeming hordes of terrorists that don't exist, to sell snake oil to the gullible.

As the Rump "University" playbook candidly put it, "you don't sell solutions --- you sell feelings". Which is exactly what Rump the con artist did. But to do that he needed complicity from the Gullibles. And there you are --- batter up.


This isn’t like other shutdowns. Democrats can’t wail about Republicans cutting Social Security or school lunches. They are willing to shut the government down because they don’t want borders.

An imaginary "wall" is not a "border". And the border in question is more secure than ever. Prove it isn't. Prove that, because that's the bullshit your whole thread hangs on.
It's safer since Trump took office. Under shit stain it was at least 70 percent worse.

Link, Pinks?
 

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You know, out of all the terrorist attacks that have been carried out in this country, not one of them has been done by a refugee or illegal alien. They were done by (a) native born US citizens, (b) naturalized US citizens, or (c) people who came here on a visa.

A wall would have done nothing to stop any of the attacks that have happened here.
 

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Just culling a coupla canards outta the middle:

This has always been true, but it’s especially important at this moment in history, when we have drugs, gang members, diseases and terrorists pouring across our border.

Except we don't. That's the strawman myth upon which is built the "wall". Which, in turn, is as transparent as glass for anyone who cares to inspect the reality. As, f'rinstance, National Review did.
It's well known that most illegal immigration comes from overstaying visas. The "wall" is a myth that can't be built, built on a myth of teeming hordes of terrorists that don't exist, to sell snake oil to the gullible.

As the Rump "University" playbook candidly put it, "you don't sell solutions --- you sell feelings". Which is exactly what Rump the con artist did. But to do that he needed complicity from the Gullibles.

This isn’t like other shutdowns. Democrats can’t wail about Republicans cutting Social Security or school lunches. They are willing to shut the government down because they don’t want borders.

A bullshit "wall" is not a "border". The border already exists. And the border in question is more secure than ever. Prove it isn't. Prove that, because that's the bullshit your whole thread hangs on.
what laughable horseshit, even for you.
 

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Epic you say? "The most epic betrayal in the history of politics" in less than four months in office? Lefties need to take a deep breath, take a course in history, stop depending on Huffington for news and ask themselves if they are still sane.
 

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Just culling a coupla canards outta the middle:

This has always been true, but it’s especially important at this moment in history, when we have drugs, gang members, diseases and terrorists pouring across our border.

Except we don't. That's the strawman myth upon which is built the "wall". Which, in turn, is as transparent as glass for anyone who cares to inspect the reality. As, f'rinstance, National Review did.
It's well known that most illegal immigration comes from overstaying visas. The "wall" is a myth that can't be built, built on a myth of teeming hordes of terrorists that don't exist, to sell snake oil to the gullible.

As the Rump "University" playbook candidly put it, "you don't sell solutions --- you sell feelings". Which is exactly what Rump the con artist did. But to do that he needed complicity from the Gullibles. And there you are --- batter up.


This isn’t like other shutdowns. Democrats can’t wail about Republicans cutting Social Security or school lunches. They are willing to shut the government down because they don’t want borders.

An imaginary "wall" is not a "border". And the border in question is more secure than ever. Prove it isn't. Prove that, because that's the bullshit your whole thread hangs on.
It's safer since Trump took office. Under shit stain it was at least 70 percent worse.

Link, Pinks?
It's been in the news idiot. The illegal crossings are down way down!
 

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Just culling a coupla canards outta the middle:

This has always been true, but it’s especially important at this moment in history, when we have drugs, gang members, diseases and terrorists pouring across our border.

Except we don't. That's the strawman myth upon which is built the "wall". Which, in turn, is as transparent as glass for anyone who cares to inspect the reality. As, f'rinstance, National Review did.
It's well known that most illegal immigration comes from overstaying visas. The "wall" is a myth that can't be built, built on a myth of teeming hordes of terrorists that don't exist, to sell snake oil to the gullible.

As the Rump "University" playbook candidly put it, "you don't sell solutions --- you sell feelings". Which is exactly what Rump the con artist did. But to do that he needed complicity from the Gullibles. And there you are --- batter up.


This isn’t like other shutdowns. Democrats can’t wail about Republicans cutting Social Security or school lunches. They are willing to shut the government down because they don’t want borders.

An imaginary "wall" is not a "border". And the border in question is more secure than ever. Prove it isn't. Prove that, because that's the bullshit your whole thread hangs on.
It's safer since Trump took office. Under shit stain it was at least 70 percent worse.

Link, Pinks?
It's been in the news idiot. The illegal crossings are down way down!

The illegals crossing into this country have been going down steadily for the past several years. The reason crossings are down is because of the policies Obama put in place. Trump is just coasting on Obama's work.
 

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Epic you say? "The most epic betrayal in the history of politics" in less than four months in office? Lefties need to take a deep breath, take a course in history, stop depending on Huffington for news and ask themselves if they are still sane.
they are totally losing it today, which is how we know trump is still winning.
 

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Just culling a coupla canards outta the middle:

This has always been true, but it’s especially important at this moment in history, when we have drugs, gang members, diseases and terrorists pouring across our border.

Except we don't. That's the strawman myth upon which is built the "wall". Which, in turn, is as transparent as glass for anyone who cares to inspect the reality. As, f'rinstance, National Review did.
It's well known that most illegal immigration comes from overstaying visas. The "wall" is a myth that can't be built, built on a myth of teeming hordes of terrorists that don't exist, to sell snake oil to the gullible.

As the Rump "University" playbook candidly put it, "you don't sell solutions --- you sell feelings". Which is exactly what Rump the con artist did. But to do that he needed complicity from the Gullibles. And there you are --- batter up.


This isn’t like other shutdowns. Democrats can’t wail about Republicans cutting Social Security or school lunches. They are willing to shut the government down because they don’t want borders.

An imaginary "wall" is not a "border". And the border in question is more secure than ever. Prove it isn't. Prove that, because that's the bullshit your whole thread hangs on.
It's safer since Trump took office. Under shit stain it was at least 70 percent worse.

Link, Pinks?
It's been in the news idiot. The illegal crossings are down way down!

The illegals crossing into this country have been going down steadily for the past several years. The reason crossings are down is because of the policies Obama put in place. Trump is just coasting on Obama's work.
HAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHA
 

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Just culling a coupla canards outta the middle:

This has always been true, but it’s especially important at this moment in history, when we have drugs, gang members, diseases and terrorists pouring across our border.

Except we don't. That's the strawman myth upon which is built the "wall". Which, in turn, is as transparent as glass for anyone who cares to inspect the reality. As, f'rinstance, National Review did.
It's well known that most illegal immigration comes from overstaying visas. The "wall" is a myth that can't be built, built on a myth of teeming hordes of terrorists that don't exist, to sell snake oil to the gullible.

As the Rump "University" playbook candidly put it, "you don't sell solutions --- you sell feelings". Which is exactly what Rump the con artist did. But to do that he needed complicity from the Gullibles.

This isn’t like other shutdowns. Democrats can’t wail about Republicans cutting Social Security or school lunches. They are willing to shut the government down because they don’t want borders.

A bullshit "wall" is not a "border". The border already exists. And the border in question is more secure than ever. Prove it isn't. Prove that, because that's the bullshit your whole thread hangs on.
what laughable horseshit, even for you.

Ironic snark from a wag whose entire contribution to the entire question was:the mind-numbing:

he's going to build the wall.

Yep folks, that's the entire post, complete with all its reasoning.
Einsteinishly deep. My head swims.

By the way we do capitalize the leadoff word in a sentence in English. Fun fact.
 

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Epic you say? "The most epic betrayal in the history of politics" in less than four months in office? Lefties need to take a deep breath, take a course in history, stop depending on Huffington for news and ask themselves if they are still sane.
they are totally losing it today, which is how we know trump is still winning.
If he's winning, why are you whining?
 
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Except we don't. That's the strawman myth upon which is built the "wall". Which, in turn, is as transparent as glass for anyone who cares to inspect the reality. As, f'rinstance, National Review did.
It's well known that most illegal immigration comes from overstaying visas. The "wall" is a myth that can't be built, built on a myth of teeming hordes of terrorists that don't exist, to sell snake oil to the gullible.

First of all, visa overstays are 40 percent of illegal immigration.

Second, we can and will build the wall. If Israel can build one, we can build one. If China can build one thousands of years ago using human slave labor, we can build one using earth movers and 18-wheelers.

Third, yes, there are hordes of terrorists, and they will exist as long as we are allowing Israel and its amen corner in the US to have us trotting around the Mideast blowing up civilians on Israel's behalf.
 

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Whelp --- for those just joining us let's sum up the entire arguments of the Gulliblles pushing the "wall".....

Build that wall! Build that wall! Build that wall!

It's safer since Trump took office. Under shit stain it was at least 70 percent worse.

he's going to build the wall.

And tens of thousands of Americans will go to work because of it!

they are totally losing it today, which is how we know trump is still winning.

HAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHA

Deep thought zone.
 

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