The Medicaid Cuts in "The Big Beautiful Bill": An Honest Discussion

[Zincwarrior]

When Trump cuts Medicaid for your mentally ill ass, you will not be a happy camper.

That's an understatement.

What really does it is pushing Medicaid funding back to the states. Many states will not fund their portion, thus ending Medicaid for those recipients.

 

[jc456]

The bill itself is 940 pages long, and the text of which was released not just a few days ago. Through my observations, I have found that not many on this board are keen on sitting down to read something 940 pages long.

Before the release, skeptics had been speculating that "$700 billion" would be cut from Medicaid, portraying it as an arbitrary, singular cut to the program. However, the cuts of $700 billion are spaced out over 10 years, through stricter work and eligibility requirements. The Senate version proposes deeper cuts. To say there are no cuts would be dishonest, though it should be noted that illegal immigrants do get something called "emergency Medicaid."

So, I'll ask you, if you think one way or another, cite provisions (pro or con) concerning the cuts. Surely you're able to do that, right? I'll leave you to it.

well basically, no, there are no cuts. Doesn't say anything about anyone receiving the benefits, one will receive them as long as they remain eligible. What is it you think they are cutting exactly?

 

[jc456]

You apparently don't read all posts that is not trolling it's reading and comprehension.

so post the source, why is that difficult?

 

[jc456]

When Trump cuts Medicaid for your mentally ill ass, you will not be a happy camper.

That's an understatement.

Trump isn't cutting anything

 

[jc456]

What really does it is pushing Medicaid funding back to the states. Many states will not fund their portion, thus ending Medicaid for those recipients.

isn't it a state thing?

 

[jc456]

Well, I take the approach a judge should if they have an interest in the case.

I receive Medicaid, and I cannot guarantee I will not side for or against these cuts. However, that does not mean others will or won't be affected by them.

 

[jc456]

Medicaid like any program has abusers, weed out the abusers.

I have a difficult time believing a healthy individual outside of age needs the government to take care of medical needs, maybe for period of time but not endless

And I'll add, illegals are not entitled to it

that's all it supposedly does.

 

[Mac1958]

The chance the GQP is taking with this is the fact that many low-income Americans are going to be significantly hurt, while the wealthiest will barely feel a thing.

Okay, that's what they feel will ultimately work. Maybe they're right. But it could also make wealth imbalances even worse while massively adding to the debt, and they could be looking at another French Revolution.

 

[jc456]

I seldom disagree with you but this time, you're just misguided.

Personally, I am happy for you that you may not know many, if any, people that need Medicaid.

There's a lot more of it than you think. Nursing Homes for one. People who can't afford extremely expensive procedures or medications, people down on their luck, people that lost Husbands or Wives and already spent all their money on trying to save them.......

It's a long list

me thinks you responded to the wrong post. Doesn't follow the post you commented off of.

 

[jc456]

The chance the GQP is taking with this is the fact that many low-income Americans are going to be significantly hurt, while the wealthiest will barely feel a thing.

Okay, that's what they feel will ultimately work. Maybe they're right. But it could also make wealth imbalances even worse while massively adding to the debt, and they could be looking at another French Revolution.

tell us how?

 

[Edgetho]

me thinks you responded to the wrong post. Doesn't follow the post you commented off of.

I misread the post. My bad.

Plus, the post doesn't make a lot of sense. No excuse, I F'ed up. Shit happens, especially when my eyes are strained and I'm a little tired.

It might happen again in ten years or so..... Nobody's perfect. Except my Wife. And I'm starting to worry about her

 

[jc456]

I misread the post. My bad.

Plus, the post doesn't make a lot of sense. No excuse, I F'ed up. Shit happens, especially when my eyes are strained and I'm a little tired.

It might happen again in ten years or so..... Nobody's perfect. Except my Wife. And I'm starting to worry about her

all ok, I was just trying to settle the confusion that came through with the other posts following it.

 

[leftwinger]

Someone mentioned metal health lol! Biggest boondoggle of all. You pay for it. Not me. No fuxing crazy or stupid. Just shup now.**

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[eagle1462010]

The chance the GQP is taking with this is the fact that many low-income Americans are going to be significantly hurt, while the wealthiest will barely feel a thing.

Okay, that's what they feel will ultimately work. Maybe they're right. But it could also make wealth imbalances even worse while massively adding to the debt, and they could be looking at another French Revolution.

Spell out how? Campaign speeches with general bullet points dont mean a dang thing.

Your party, yes the left, yes you are one of them . Do this all the time and LIE YOUR ASSES OFF

 

[Concerned American]

You apparently don't read all posts that is not trolling it's reading and comprehension.

When you find someone who reads every post on this board, please let me know. Until then, if you're trying to make a point, MAKE IT, don't beat around the bush, wasting my time.

 

[jc456]

Spell out how? Campaign speeches with general bullet points dont mean a dang thing.

Your party, yes the left, yes you are one of them . Do this all the time and LIE YOUR ASSES OFF

ahhhh, I got a laugh and not a thumbs up. I'm jealous.

 

[Edgetho]

Medicaid like any program has abusers, weed out the abusers.

I have a difficult time believing a healthy individual outside of age needs the government to take care of medical needs, maybe for period of time but not endless

And I'll add, illegals are not entitled to it

Okay, now I understand your post. Wihtout context it makes no sense. At all.

Yes, there is a need, there shouldn't be but there is a need for Medicaid for healthy people.

You can thank the Bastard Son of Frank Marshall Davis and his Affordable Health Care jagoff plan.

His bullshit plan (going from a failing memory now, so be gentle) requires a person have an income. It has to be EARNED Income in order to qualify you to get on his bullshit obamacare.

So, if you're living off your savings, you can't get obamacare. If you retire at age 55 and don't go back to work and live off your savings or investments, you can't get obamacare.

The Lying ********** in Chief, being a stupid dimocrap scumbag, decided that you had to go on Welfare and get Medicaid. But since those people wouldn't qualify for Wekfare, most States changed their rules to allow them to skip the Welfare requirements and get on Medicaid, paying obamacare rates, for their insurance.

Yeah, it sucks but what people forget is that The Bastard Son Of Frank Marshall Davis put most Private Health Carriers out of business and if you lived in a State like Florida, where we don't play that game..... You're screwed.

I have a friend that fell into the Gap. He didn't work but he wasn't welathy. He owned a house and a car and he couldn't qualify for Welfare/Medicaid. So, no insurance for him.

One of the reasons he didn't work was because he had a really bad back. And he needed Health Insurance to get some surgery. He was in the process when the Bastard Son of Frank Marshall Davis shut all the private carriers down. So he was left out in the cold.

In most other States, he could have qualified for the Medicaid/obamacare exception and got on obamacare. But not in Florida. Florida don't play that shit. I disagree with it, but that's how they roll.

There shouldn't be a need for otherwise healthy people to get on Medicaid but the Bastard Son of Frank Marshall Davis created it. And a few States, like Florida, refused to play.

I almost fell into that gap myself. I did for a couple years in fact but I decided to not worry about it. Had the VA. And back then, they sucked ass but I waited it out until I got on MediCARE, not medicaid, Medicare.

Sorry that's a piss poor explanation but it's the best I can do for now.

I didn't know that OMB wanted to do away with that provision. That's gonna hurt a fair amount of people.

obamacare was/is a disaster anyway. Biggest piece of shit legislation in American History

 

[dudmuck]

If you don't cut the waste and fraud the entire program will end and people who really need it won't have it...

 

[Rambunctious]

Read the bill... educate yourself...

 

[leftwinger]

For Stain insisting illegals are not covered like Care4all