The Math Proves Which Side To Support

[gipper]

It is clear that you recognize you've painted yourself into a corner, and your posts identify your anti-Semitism.


Reserve that language for your family discussions.

You are the anti-Semite. You hate Palestinians and support their destruction. Do I need to explain further?

Stop being a traitor to your country.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

 

[Hafar1014]

I don't see need to play God and support either side.

You have no moral values

 

[my2¢]

You have no moral values

For putting my trust in God. How ironic.

 

[Hafar1014]

For putting my trust in God. How ironic.

For refusing to make a stand. Youre a coward

 

[gipper]

You have no moral values

Lol. Says a Zionist who supports the massacre of women and children. You have no morality or humanity. Are you a Satanist too?

 

[my2¢]

For refusing to make a stand. Youre a coward

I stand with God. Better a coward than an atheist from my point of view.

And based on your so-called "logic", it only follows that you have taken a stance on each and every conflict that pledges this whole wide world. Otherwise, it would follow that you're either a coward or a hypocrite.

Global conflict tracker

 

[Crepitus]

1. Some 2 million Muslims live within Israel's borders, and another 3 million in the West Bank, adjacent to Israel. Peacefully, at least not the conditions we see in Gaza, which elected the terrorists of Hamas.



2. How many Jews are allowed to live in Gaza. Or in the more pleasant confines of West Bank or Nazareth???




3 .... Israelis don't want to conquer Gaza. In fact, they left Gaza voluntarily in 2005.
And they don't want to wipe Gaza off the map. If they wanted that, they could have done it any time in the last several decades. With their advantage and firepower, they could do it now in a matter of weeks. And you should ask yourself why they don't. Hamas, on the
other hand, does want to conquer Israel and wipe it off the map. And they would be happy to do what they did on October 7th to the entire country.
That's what I mean when I say that the two sides in this war are not the same.
There is a huge moral asymmetry between them and that matters.



4. AI Overview
Hamas’s founding 1988 charter calls for the complete destruction of Israel and the establishment of an Islamic state in its place. It asserts that historic Palestine is an Islamic religious endowment (Waqf) and rejects any permanent peace or recognition of the Jewish state. [1, 2]




5.I have visited Christian holy sites and walked the stations of the cross in Jerusalem.
Israel protects the rights and views of all three religions, even turned the control of the upper wailing wall over to the Muslims.
Telling as well, is the fact that Israel has turned over authority of the over to the temple mount to the Waqf.....the Muslims.
Christians and Jews cannot pray or even bring a Bible....or wear a cross.
Israel represents the best of Western values, the only nation in the area that does.

Holy shit you're stupid. Just gonna swallow the israeli propaganda whole and beg for seconds, ain't you?

 

[Hafar1014]

I stand with God. Better a coward than an atheist from my point of view.

And based on your so-called "logic", it only follows that you have taken a stance on each and every conflict that pledges this whole wide world. Otherwise, it would follow that you're either a coward or a hypocrite.

Global conflict tracker

In fact you dont stand at all you sit on your ass and do nothing. You stand for nothing.

 

[my2¢]

In fact you dont stand at all you sit on your ass and do nothing. You stand for nothing.

So now you're bragging that you type standing up?

 

[DGS49]

Again, one must always go back to Dennis Prager's axiom about Israel: If Israel's antagonists would lay down their arms, there would be peace; if Israel laid down its arms, there would be another Holocaust.

Does anyone deny this?

Israel is doing nothing more (or less) than defending itself against a culture that irrationally demands that it cease to exist, and that its population be destroyed.

How should they behave in these circumstances?

 

[gipper]

Holy shit you're stupid. Just gonna swallow the israeli propaganda whole and beg for seconds, ain't you?

I suspect she’s a paid poster for Israel.

 

[gipper]

Again, one must always go back to Dennis Prager's axiom about Israel: If Israel's antagonists would lay down their arms, there would be peace; if Israel laid down its arms, there would be another Holocaust.

Does anyone deny this?

Israel is doing nothing more (or less) than defending itself against a culture that irrationally demands that it cease to exist, and that its population be destroyed.

How should they behave in these circumstances?

Lol. You still believe that propaganda even after the Zionazis are committing genocide in Palestine and Lebanon, and attacking all their neighbors.

Good god man! Get informed.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Again, one must always go back to Dennis Prager's axiom about Israel: If Israel's antagonists would lay down their arms, there would be peace; if Israel laid down its arms, there would be another Holocaust.

Thats an Israel problem, not a US one.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

A lot of people describe Catholicism as a death cult and/or organized criminal organization.

Catholics don't make themselves martyrs. They don't strap bombs to their children. They don't glorify the 72 virgins. Martyrdom isn't a thing in Catholocism.

 

[OldFlame]

Had the stinking A-rabs been the ones who shorted airline stocks before 9/11, we would have found Mohammed Atta's Charles Schwab account in with his passport.

Makes you wonder who is being protected

Your ridiculous conspracy theories are bullshit.

American Airlines and United Airlines stocks experienced unusually high levels of bearish betting—specifically through put options—in the days immediately preceding the September 11 attacks. While these trades appeared "facially suspicious," official federal investigations concluded they had innocuous explanations and were not based on advance knowledge of the attacks. [1, 2, 3]

Key Findings from Investigations
The 9/11 Commission Report and the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) conducted exhaustive reviews of over 9.5 million transactions and found no evidence of illicit trading. [1, 2]

• United Airlines (UAL): On September 6, 2001, put option volume was nearly 100 times higher than normal. Investigators traced 95% of these trades to a single U.S.-based institutional investor as part of a complex trading strategy that also involved buying American Airlines stock.
• American Airlines (AMR): A surge in put options on September 10 was largely attributed to a specific options trading newsletter faxed to subscribers on September 9, which recommended the trades.
• Hedge Fund Trading: One major trade involved a New York hedge fund with $2 billion under management. Because the fund also held 29,000 shares of UAL stock, it actually lost $85,000 when the markets reopened, proving the trade was not a bet on the airline's collapse. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Market Context
Speculators had financial reasons to bet against airlines even without foreknowledge of an attack: [1, 2]

• The airline industry was in serious financial trouble prior to 9/11 due to a weakening economy and slumping travel demand.
• Both AMR and UAL had recently posted massive second-quarter losses and warned of continued deficits for the remainder of the year.
• Short selling across the entire market was at record highs at the time. [1]

 

[AnOrangeCat]

Difference is................Middle Eastern religions are "in your face", whereas American religions are sneaky, stealthy, and make it look like an "accident" or set up a stooge to take the fall for what they do.

Christianity and Islam evangelize, that's how there ended up being billions of both.

It is not kosher for Jews to evangelize, and it's quite difficult to convert to Judaism; they discourage it along the way.

The other major religion, Hinduism, also does not evangelize.

 

[Roudy]

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Good. Maybe Hezbollah shooting thousands of rockets at Israeli population centers from southern Lebanon wasn’t a good idea.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

Two million of them can and do live in peace with Jewish Israelis. Its not unrealistic.

Right, but they're not indoctrinated into a death cult. In fact, Israel pays the salaries for hundreds of Imams across the country.

Gaza is indoctrinated, however. Hamas has spent 20 years doing that.

How do you deprogram that? How do you make that deprogramming stick? Wouldn't it take generations to undo all that, if that's even possible?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Good. Maybe Hezbollah shooting thousands of rockets at Israeli population centers from southern Lebanon wasn’t a good idea.

Those are all Hezbollah homes? How can you tell?