The "Make Billionaires Pay Act" by Crazy Bernie & Gruesome Gillibrand imposes a one-time 60% tax on wealth gains made by billionaires during corona

[martybegan]

He pays significantly less today than he did in 2015.

What was his income in 2015? What is his income today?

Don't you know?

You made a claim......you don't know?

Who cares. Look at all this defense you put up when we discuss taxing billionaires more. I just pointed out that 3 out of 4 billionaires have seen their fortunes skyrocket since Corona. We claimed even before corona their unchecked wealth and power over our government was a problem even before this. And Trump gave them tax breaks in 2018? Totally unnecessary. It's as if you want the government to go bankrupt. How will that help you anarchists?

Who cares.

You were the one whining about his lower payment today, apparently you care.

I just pointed out that 3 out of 4 billionaires have seen their fortunes skyrocket since Corona.

Who cares? They own stocks, stocks have mostly gone up.

We claimed even before corona their unchecked wealth and power over our government was a problem even before this.

Yes, your constant push for reducing the size and scope of government was refreshing.

And Trump gave them tax breaks in 2018?

Me too.

Stocks have gone up for one reason. Billions interjected

Here’s how much these billionaires would pay under Sen. Bernie Sanders’ proposed “Make Billionaires Pay Act”:
-Jeff Bezos $42.8B
-Elon Musk $27.5B
-Mark Zuckerberg $22.8B

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/06/sanders-billionaire-tax-bill-would-cost-bezos-musk-zuckerberg.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain

Stop saying “we can’t afford” Homes for All, Green New Deal or Medicare for All.

If we didn't spend trillions on endless wars and tax breaks for millionaires, we could afford to house our homeless, care for our seniors, and save our planet.

We suffer from greed, not scarcity

The Pandemic Has Benefited One Group Of People: Billionaires

Roughly 3 out of 4 American billionaires have seen a rise in their net worths. Elon Musk alone has tripled his net worth during the pandemic.

www.huffpost.com

Roughly 3 out of 4 American billionaires have seen a rise in their net worths. Elon Musk alone has tripled his net worth during the pandemic.

So you are crying about taxing Elon Musk 27 billion? Are you retarded?

I'm a fan of Tesla but has Musk made a profit on anything yet?

Elon has tripled his net worth since Corona. TRIPLED. Wake up middle class Americ

How Rich is Too Rich For Democracy?

At what point does great wealth held in a few hands actually harm democracy, threatening to turn a democratic republic into an oligarchy? It's a debate we haven't had freely and openly in this nation for nearly a century, and last week, by voting to end the Estate Tax, House Republicans tried to...

www.commondreams.org

You're fighting us liberals meanwhile the billionaires are WINNING.

Citizens United is another bad move towards the rich controlling our government with their influence. No one can defend this can they?

Apparently, Elon is a better salesman than you.

And Billionaires should be taxed more. I don't even think they care. Only you right wing cons want to protect/defend their fortunes. Even when that means eventually they'll have to raise your taxes and cut your social security/Medicare.

I like Bernie Sanders plan...
Tax business at 75% if they off-shore and/or use Business Visas.
Do you agree?

Yes

No. Typical lefty, taxation as punishment, not taxation as a funding source.

Business entities that contribute to US unemployment should be punished.

What about a government that contributes to unemployment by continuing to allow low skilled labor to flood the market?

They need to go after the illegal employers. The people hiring the illegal workers. Going after illegal workers won't work if companies aren't afraid to hire them they'll just keep on coming wall or no wall.

go after the supply and the demand. but going after the employers to a degree of putting them out of business stops them from employing anyone, so it makes more sense to go after the supply

How's that working?

Don't know, we really haven't tried it full blast.

And why is that?

Lawsuits to stop ICE from doing it's job. Lack of will from certain lifelong anti-trump people in Justice. Localities that don't enforce any immigration laws or federal requests.

You mean places like Iowa?

Man charged in Tibbetts' death worked at Iowa farm linked to prominent Republican

"This individual has worked at our farms for four years, was vetted through the government's E-Verify system," said farm owner about Cristhian Rivera.

www.desmoinesregister.com

Let's look at this.

This individual has worked at our farms for four years, was vetted through the government's E-Verify system, and was an employee in good standing. On Monday, the authorities visited our farm and talked to our employees. We have cooperated fully with their investigation.

Man charged in Tibbetts' death worked at Iowa farm linked to prominent Republican

UPDATE: The employers of the suspect in an Iowa college student’s death say he presented false identification when he came to work for them. Correcting information given Tuesday, manager Dane Lang said Yarrabee Farms did not use the government’s E-Verify system to check the immigration status of Cristhian Bahena Rivera, who presented an out-of-state ID card and Social Security number when he applied for work four years ago.

Employers: Slaying suspect lied about ID

This business knew he was here illegally and initially lied about it. Without the job he has no reason to come here.

I can't find anything about an investigation of this business about their lies and how many other illegals they are employing.

So close down the business? Put the owner in jail?

Really great idea SJW soi boi and your soi boi butt buddy Sealy.

Yes, fine them so heavily no other company would dare hire illegals.

Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

Every time the media - or a Democrat - uses the phrase "Illegal Immigration" they are promoting one of Karl Rove's most potent Republican Party frames.

www.thomhartmann.com

This is why we're never going to solve the illegal employer problem we have and Republicans don't want to because a lot of corporations that hire illegals are run by Republicans who donate to Republican politicians.

If you read the op ed I posted Thom puts blame on both parties. I know you guys never accept full responsibility for anything but maybe you'll admit both parties are to blame? Nah. We know you won't ever do that. And you can't ever get yourselves to blame or punish corporations no matter what they do.

Again, the goal is to control immigration, not ruin our employers.

The employers enticing illegals to come.

Their shithole existences in their own countries entice them to come.

That and they know in Cali the welfare state will take care of them, in other Blue states as well.

I do see a lot of legal immigrants take advantage of social programs. I'm sure illegal immigrants do too especially in blue states. But make no mistake, the thing drawing them to this country are illegal employers large and small.

Man charged in Tibbetts' death worked at Iowa farm linked to prominent Republican

"This individual has worked at our farms for four years, was vetted through the government's E-Verify system," said farm owner about Cristhian Rivera.

www.desmoinesregister.com

In Iowa

They are driven from their own countries by the conditions there, and drawn here because they hope lefties gain power and they are given amnesty to stay here.

 

[danielpalos]

He pays significantly less today than he did in 2015.

What was his income in 2015? What is his income today?

Don't you know?

You made a claim......you don't know?

Who cares. Look at all this defense you put up when we discuss taxing billionaires more. I just pointed out that 3 out of 4 billionaires have seen their fortunes skyrocket since Corona. We claimed even before corona their unchecked wealth and power over our government was a problem even before this. And Trump gave them tax breaks in 2018? Totally unnecessary. It's as if you want the government to go bankrupt. How will that help you anarchists?

Who cares.

You were the one whining about his lower payment today, apparently you care.

I just pointed out that 3 out of 4 billionaires have seen their fortunes skyrocket since Corona.

Who cares? They own stocks, stocks have mostly gone up.

We claimed even before corona their unchecked wealth and power over our government was a problem even before this.

Yes, your constant push for reducing the size and scope of government was refreshing.

And Trump gave them tax breaks in 2018?

Me too.

Stocks have gone up for one reason. Billions interjected

Here’s how much these billionaires would pay under Sen. Bernie Sanders’ proposed “Make Billionaires Pay Act”:
-Jeff Bezos $42.8B
-Elon Musk $27.5B
-Mark Zuckerberg $22.8B

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/06/sanders-billionaire-tax-bill-would-cost-bezos-musk-zuckerberg.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain

Stop saying “we can’t afford” Homes for All, Green New Deal or Medicare for All.

If we didn't spend trillions on endless wars and tax breaks for millionaires, we could afford to house our homeless, care for our seniors, and save our planet.

We suffer from greed, not scarcity

The Pandemic Has Benefited One Group Of People: Billionaires

Roughly 3 out of 4 American billionaires have seen a rise in their net worths. Elon Musk alone has tripled his net worth during the pandemic.

www.huffpost.com

Roughly 3 out of 4 American billionaires have seen a rise in their net worths. Elon Musk alone has tripled his net worth during the pandemic.

So you are crying about taxing Elon Musk 27 billion? Are you retarded?

I'm a fan of Tesla but has Musk made a profit on anything yet?

Elon has tripled his net worth since Corona. TRIPLED. Wake up middle class Americ

How Rich is Too Rich For Democracy?

At what point does great wealth held in a few hands actually harm democracy, threatening to turn a democratic republic into an oligarchy? It's a debate we haven't had freely and openly in this nation for nearly a century, and last week, by voting to end the Estate Tax, House Republicans tried to...

www.commondreams.org

You're fighting us liberals meanwhile the billionaires are WINNING.

Citizens United is another bad move towards the rich controlling our government with their influence. No one can defend this can they?

Apparently, Elon is a better salesman than you.

And Billionaires should be taxed more. I don't even think they care. Only you right wing cons want to protect/defend their fortunes. Even when that means eventually they'll have to raise your taxes and cut your social security/Medicare.

I like Bernie Sanders plan...
Tax business at 75% if they off-shore and/or use Business Visas.
Do you agree?

Yes

No. Typical lefty, taxation as punishment, not taxation as a funding source.

Business entities that contribute to US unemployment should be punished.

What about a government that contributes to unemployment by continuing to allow low skilled labor to flood the market?

They need to go after the illegal employers. The people hiring the illegal workers. Going after illegal workers won't work if companies aren't afraid to hire them they'll just keep on coming wall or no wall.

go after the supply and the demand. but going after the employers to a degree of putting them out of business stops them from employing anyone, so it makes more sense to go after the supply

How's that working?

Don't know, we really haven't tried it full blast.

And why is that?

Lawsuits to stop ICE from doing it's job. Lack of will from certain lifelong anti-trump people in Justice. Localities that don't enforce any immigration laws or federal requests.

You mean places like Iowa?

Man charged in Tibbetts' death worked at Iowa farm linked to prominent Republican

"This individual has worked at our farms for four years, was vetted through the government's E-Verify system," said farm owner about Cristhian Rivera.

www.desmoinesregister.com

Let's look at this.

This individual has worked at our farms for four years, was vetted through the government's E-Verify system, and was an employee in good standing. On Monday, the authorities visited our farm and talked to our employees. We have cooperated fully with their investigation.

Man charged in Tibbetts' death worked at Iowa farm linked to prominent Republican

UPDATE: The employers of the suspect in an Iowa college student’s death say he presented false identification when he came to work for them. Correcting information given Tuesday, manager Dane Lang said Yarrabee Farms did not use the government’s E-Verify system to check the immigration status of Cristhian Bahena Rivera, who presented an out-of-state ID card and Social Security number when he applied for work four years ago.

Employers: Slaying suspect lied about ID

This business knew he was here illegally and initially lied about it. Without the job he has no reason to come here.

I can't find anything about an investigation of this business about their lies and how many other illegals they are employing.

So close down the business? Put the owner in jail?

Really great idea SJW soi boi and your soi boi butt buddy Sealy.

Yes, fine them so heavily no other company would dare hire illegals.

Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

Every time the media - or a Democrat - uses the phrase "Illegal Immigration" they are promoting one of Karl Rove's most potent Republican Party frames.

www.thomhartmann.com

This is why we're never going to solve the illegal employer problem we have and Republicans don't want to because a lot of corporations that hire illegals are run by Republicans who donate to Republican politicians.

If you read the op ed I posted Thom puts blame on both parties. I know you guys never accept full responsibility for anything but maybe you'll admit both parties are to blame? Nah. We know you won't ever do that. And you can't ever get yourselves to blame or punish corporations no matter what they do.

Again, the goal is to control immigration, not ruin our employers.

There is no immigration clause in our federal Constitution. Right wingers simply prefer their socialism on a national basis and like to complain about the Cost of Government and the tax burden they create.

 

[danielpalos]

Nah you are going to vote for Biden and amnesty and then bitch about your vote being diluted by millions of legalized new democratic voters.

You are a fool.

Not me. I voted for Biden/Harris, and know we have a naturalization clause not any form of Immigration clause. Right wingers have no social solutions to our problems they merely prefer their bigotry and socialism on a national basis and to complain about the Cost of Government they create and blame the Poor for it.

 

[martybegan]

Nah you are going to vote for Biden and amnesty and then bitch about your vote being diluted by millions of legalized new democratic voters.

You are a fool.

Not me. I voted for Biden/Harris, and know we have a naturalization clause not any form of Immigration clause. Right wingers have no social solutions to our problems they merely prefer their bigotry and socialism on a national basis and to complain about the Cost of Government they create and blame the Poor for it.

More useless word salad from a useless poster.

Have you ever responded to something clearly, without a jumble of words you use to make yourself look "smarter"?

 

[danielpalos]

Their shithole existences in their own countries entice them to come.

That and they know in Cali the welfare state will take care of them, in other Blue states as well.

Made worse by right wing bigotry and useless, alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror. Bombing foreign nations only creates more refugees for right wing tools to complain about. Our naturalization clause should be considered a market based metric that indicates where we should be helping foreign nations not merely using right wing socialism on an international basis to make their living conditions worse and create the need for foreigners to flee their native lands.

 

[danielpalos]

He pays significantly less today than he did in 2015.

What was his income in 2015? What is his income today?

Don't you know?

You made a claim......you don't know?

Who cares. Look at all this defense you put up when we discuss taxing billionaires more. I just pointed out that 3 out of 4 billionaires have seen their fortunes skyrocket since Corona. We claimed even before corona their unchecked wealth and power over our government was a problem even before this. And Trump gave them tax breaks in 2018? Totally unnecessary. It's as if you want the government to go bankrupt. How will that help you anarchists?

Who cares.

You were the one whining about his lower payment today, apparently you care.

I just pointed out that 3 out of 4 billionaires have seen their fortunes skyrocket since Corona.

Who cares? They own stocks, stocks have mostly gone up.

We claimed even before corona their unchecked wealth and power over our government was a problem even before this.

Yes, your constant push for reducing the size and scope of government was refreshing.

And Trump gave them tax breaks in 2018?

Me too.

Stocks have gone up for one reason. Billions interjected

Here’s how much these billionaires would pay under Sen. Bernie Sanders’ proposed “Make Billionaires Pay Act”:
-Jeff Bezos $42.8B
-Elon Musk $27.5B
-Mark Zuckerberg $22.8B

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/06/sanders-billionaire-tax-bill-would-cost-bezos-musk-zuckerberg.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain

Stop saying “we can’t afford” Homes for All, Green New Deal or Medicare for All.

If we didn't spend trillions on endless wars and tax breaks for millionaires, we could afford to house our homeless, care for our seniors, and save our planet.

We suffer from greed, not scarcity

The Pandemic Has Benefited One Group Of People: Billionaires

Roughly 3 out of 4 American billionaires have seen a rise in their net worths. Elon Musk alone has tripled his net worth during the pandemic.

www.huffpost.com

Roughly 3 out of 4 American billionaires have seen a rise in their net worths. Elon Musk alone has tripled his net worth during the pandemic.

So you are crying about taxing Elon Musk 27 billion? Are you retarded?

I'm a fan of Tesla but has Musk made a profit on anything yet?

Elon has tripled his net worth since Corona. TRIPLED. Wake up middle class Americ

How Rich is Too Rich For Democracy?

At what point does great wealth held in a few hands actually harm democracy, threatening to turn a democratic republic into an oligarchy? It's a debate we haven't had freely and openly in this nation for nearly a century, and last week, by voting to end the Estate Tax, House Republicans tried to...

www.commondreams.org

You're fighting us liberals meanwhile the billionaires are WINNING.

Citizens United is another bad move towards the rich controlling our government with their influence. No one can defend this can they?

Apparently, Elon is a better salesman than you.

And Billionaires should be taxed more. I don't even think they care. Only you right wing cons want to protect/defend their fortunes. Even when that means eventually they'll have to raise your taxes and cut your social security/Medicare.

I like Bernie Sanders plan...
Tax business at 75% if they off-shore and/or use Business Visas.
Do you agree?

Yes

No. Typical lefty, taxation as punishment, not taxation as a funding source.

Business entities that contribute to US unemployment should be punished.

What about a government that contributes to unemployment by continuing to allow low skilled labor to flood the market?

They need to go after the illegal employers. The people hiring the illegal workers. Going after illegal workers won't work if companies aren't afraid to hire them they'll just keep on coming wall or no wall.

go after the supply and the demand. but going after the employers to a degree of putting them out of business stops them from employing anyone, so it makes more sense to go after the supply

How's that working?

Don't know, we really haven't tried it full blast.

And why is that?

Lawsuits to stop ICE from doing it's job. Lack of will from certain lifelong anti-trump people in Justice. Localities that don't enforce any immigration laws or federal requests.

You mean places like Iowa?

Man charged in Tibbetts' death worked at Iowa farm linked to prominent Republican

"This individual has worked at our farms for four years, was vetted through the government's E-Verify system," said farm owner about Cristhian Rivera.

www.desmoinesregister.com

Let's look at this.

This individual has worked at our farms for four years, was vetted through the government's E-Verify system, and was an employee in good standing. On Monday, the authorities visited our farm and talked to our employees. We have cooperated fully with their investigation.

Man charged in Tibbetts' death worked at Iowa farm linked to prominent Republican

UPDATE: The employers of the suspect in an Iowa college student’s death say he presented false identification when he came to work for them. Correcting information given Tuesday, manager Dane Lang said Yarrabee Farms did not use the government’s E-Verify system to check the immigration status of Cristhian Bahena Rivera, who presented an out-of-state ID card and Social Security number when he applied for work four years ago.

Employers: Slaying suspect lied about ID

This business knew he was here illegally and initially lied about it. Without the job he has no reason to come here.

I can't find anything about an investigation of this business about their lies and how many other illegals they are employing.

So close down the business? Put the owner in jail?

Really great idea SJW soi boi and your soi boi butt buddy Sealy.

Yes, fine them so heavily no other company would dare hire illegals.

Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

Every time the media - or a Democrat - uses the phrase "Illegal Immigration" they are promoting one of Karl Rove's most potent Republican Party frames.

www.thomhartmann.com

This is why we're never going to solve the illegal employer problem we have and Republicans don't want to because a lot of corporations that hire illegals are run by Republicans who donate to Republican politicians.

If you read the op ed I posted Thom puts blame on both parties. I know you guys never accept full responsibility for anything but maybe you'll admit both parties are to blame? Nah. We know you won't ever do that. And you can't ever get yourselves to blame or punish corporations no matter what they do.

Again, the goal is to control immigration, not ruin our employers.

The employers enticing illegals to come.

Their shithole existences in their own countries entice them to come.

That and they know in Cali the welfare state will take care of them, in other Blue states as well.

They are all over the United States. Working in every single one. None of them getting enough in benefits to live here anywhere.

So illegals can't get benefits in California?

We should have no illegal problem or illegal underclass since we have no Immigration clause in our federal Constitution. Only the hypocritical right wing creates problems and then blame the less fortunate under our form of Capitalism.

What happened to free market capitalism solving our problems right wingers? Oh, that's right, y'all only allege to believe in free market Capitalism, in socialism threads.

 

[danielpalos]

Nah you are going to vote for Biden and amnesty and then bitch about your vote being diluted by millions of legalized new democratic voters.

You are a fool.

Not me. I voted for Biden/Harris, and know we have a naturalization clause not any form of Immigration clause. Right wingers have no social solutions to our problems they merely prefer their bigotry and socialism on a national basis and to complain about the Cost of Government they create and blame the Poor for it.

More useless word salad from a useless poster.

Have you ever responded to something clearly, without a jumble of words you use to make yourself look "smarter"?

lol. I resort to the fewest fallacies for that. Right wingers are simply better at fallacy not valid arguments for rebuttal.

 

[wamose]

Those people will never pay a 60% tax. That's just a threat to give crooked people like Biden a starting point for the big shakedown, just like he did in Ukraine. I'll give you an exemption and you give me my cut. I think Biden learned the art of the shakedown from Sharpton when Obama had him at the White House every other day. We don't want to go back to that kind of total corruption. Vote Republican

 

[bottlecap]

The "MAKE BILLIONAIRES PAY ACT" has ZERO Chance of happening as the billionaires are the ones supporting their puppet Joe Biden and it is a No Go with TRUMP already.

Bernie would have tried it so the SUPER RICH had their mouthpiece, the MSM, Smear Bernie in the South Carolina primary and cover-up for Biden. A cover-up for Biden which continues today.

 

[bottlecap]

Those people will never pay a 60% tax. That's just a threat to give crooked people like Biden a starting point for the big shakedown, just like he did in Ukraine. I'll give you an exemption and you give me my cut. I think Biden learned the art of the shakedown from Sharpton when Obama had him at the White House every other day. We don't want to go back to that kind of total corruption. Vote Republican

Believe me, those Billionaires could crush Biden like the piss ant he is if they wanted too. BUT they don't want to, as Biden works for them.

 

[martybegan]

Nah you are going to vote for Biden and amnesty and then bitch about your vote being diluted by millions of legalized new democratic voters.

You are a fool.

Not me. I voted for Biden/Harris, and know we have a naturalization clause not any form of Immigration clause. Right wingers have no social solutions to our problems they merely prefer their bigotry and socialism on a national basis and to complain about the Cost of Government they create and blame the Poor for it.

More useless word salad from a useless poster.

Have you ever responded to something clearly, without a jumble of words you use to make yourself look "smarter"?

lol. I resort to the fewest fallacies for that. Right wingers are simply better at fallacy not valid arguments for rebuttal.

Again not a real answer, same as any other response you make.