Zone1 The main reason people hate religion

[zaangalewa]

Are you? You'd be wrong. I am older and grizzeld. The Bible tells me how to live. It will not allow me to listen to someone who has no idea of who, or what God is and what He says.

This is totally wrong. You never will know in which way god likes to speak with you. Learn to listen to others. Truth is always true - independent from the person who speaks out this truth.



Ô toi l'au-delà de tout,
Quel esprit peut te saisir?
Tous les êtres te célèbrent;
Le désir de tous aspire vers toi.

 

[zaangalewa]

I’ve been hated by non-Christians, including Catholics, for my entire life for being Jewish. Any thoughts on that?

Yes. You are an idiot! I never heard a Jew call Catholics "non-Christians". That's totally absurde.

 

[zaangalewa]

I was born at a Catholic hospital; into a Catholic family; baptized a Catholic; confirmed a Catholic; been to over a 1000 masses; was an alter boy and spent 8 years in parochial school.

BTW, I'm still a Catholic.

How comes?

 

[Lisa558]

Yes. You are an idiot! I never heard a Jew call Catholics "non-Christians". That's totally absurde.

That’s because you referred to non-Catholics in that phrase, so I was mimicking your use of language. And I wasn’t referring to Catholics as non-Christians, I was referring to everyone who isn’t a Christian - like Jews, you idiot.

But interesting that you zeroed in on that, in order to call a Jew an idiot, when YOU are the one complaining about how “non-Catholics” treat you.

 

[zaangalewa]

Actually you speak your truth. Despite your protestations the Catholic Church is not the the only "true" Church.

Your are right and wrong the same time. There is only one church. And this church is catholic. Here the Ecumenical (interdenominational) version of the Apostles Creed.

I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.
I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord.
He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit
and born of the virgin Mary.
He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried.
He descended to the dead.
On the third day he rose again.
He ascended into heaven,
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic Church,
the communion of the saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen.

 

[Lisa558]

Your are right and wrong the same time. There is only one church. And this church is catholic. Here the Ecumenical (interdenominational) version of the Apostles Creed.

I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.
I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord.
He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit
and born of the virgin Mary.
He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried.
He descended to the dead.
On the third day he rose again.
He ascended into heaven,
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic Church,
the communion of the saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen.

Actually there are a lot of religions that aren’t denominations of Christianity at all. What you say is “the truth” is only the truth to those who practice your religion. It certainly isn’t true to Jews.

 

[zaangalewa]

That’s because you referred to non-Catholics in that phrase, so I was mimicking your use of language. And I wasn’t referring to Catholics as non-Christians, I was referring to everyone who isn’t a Christian - like Jews, you idiot.

Yor said to someone else: I’ve been hated by non-Christians, including Catholics, for my entire life for being Jewish. Any thoughts on that?

So I gave my answer to a Jew and got back now an echo from an alien.

But interesting that you zeroed in on that, in order to call a Jew an idiot,

I call everyone an idiot who is an idiot including me on my own from time to time - but combined with this "idiot" (original "Depp") is the thought "What a strange form of 'Jew' speaks out such a nonsense?" And as far as I understand you right now then you are no Jew at all. So who are the ¿¿not-Christian? Catholics? who called you ¿Jewish? because they ¿hate? you?

when YOU are the one complaining about how “non-Catholics” treat you.

Huh?

 

[zaangalewa]

Actually there are a lot of religions that aren’t denominations of Christianity at all. What you say is “the truth”

I said it is the Apostles creed. A creed is a kind of formula of a common belief. And an element of this common belief is the element catholic.

is only the truth to those who practice your religion. It certainly isn’t true to Jews.

So now you are a Jew again? Aha. And what means this now for the Christian church, Sir Weirdness?

 

[Lisa558]

Yor said to someone else: I’ve been hated by non-Christians, including Catholics, for my entire life for being Jewish. Any thoughts on that?

So I gave my answer to a Jew and got back now an echo from an alien.



I call everyone an idiot who is an idiot including me on my own from time to time - but combined with this "idiot" (original "Depp") is the thought "What a strange form of 'Jew' speaks out such a nonsense?" And as far as I understand you right now then you are no Jew at all. So who are the ¿¿not-Christian? Catholics? who called you ¿Jewish? because they ¿hate? you?



Huh?

OK….thanks for letting me know who you are. I have no need to engage with you further.

 

[zaangalewa]

OK….thanks for letting me know who you are. I have no need to engage with you further.

I'm in the wrong game. You play "Schiffe versenken", in English called "battleships", ¿Nazi?, isn't it? What counts a sunk Jew, Catholic and Christian - ¿three points?

 

[Lisa558]

I'm in the wrong game. You play "Schiffe versenken", in English called "battleships", ¿Nazi?, isn't it? What counts a sunk Jew, Catholic and Christian - ¿three points?

You’re not American. Americans don’t have upside down question marks. Bugger off.

 

[zaangalewa]

You’re not American.

I'm a German Catholic with also Jewish ancestors.

Americans don’t have upside down question marks. Bugger off.

I like this structure very much. It's more easy to make clear what is a concrete problem.

 

[JustAGuy1]

You have also the right to say "I am an idiot".

Ok, you are an idiot.

 

[JustAGuy1]

This is totally wrong. You never will know in which way god likes to speak with you. Learn to listen to others. Truth is always true - independent from the person who speaks out this truth.



Ô toi l'au-delà de tout,
Quel esprit peut te saisir?
Tous les êtres te célèbrent;
Le désir de tous aspire vers toi.

I know precisely how He speaks to me.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Your are right and wrong the same time. There is only one church. And this church is catholic. Here the Ecumenical (interdenominational) version of the Apostles Creed.

I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.
I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord.
He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit
and born of the virgin Mary.
He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried.
He descended to the dead.
On the third day he rose again.
He ascended into heaven,
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic Church,
the communion of the saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen.

The Catholic Church is "a" Church, a part of the body of Christ.

 

[BlueGin]

What is a religion without followers? If a particular faith produces a lot of intolerant assholes then there is something going on that needs fixing.

Kind of like the Democratic Party.

 

[nomadic5]

Kind of like the Democratic Party.

It seems the only way of fixing that rotten "religon" is to make sure no one ever votes D again

which should be TOP priority with all of us

 

[nomadic5]

The Catholic Church is "a" Church

The Catholic Church is THE Church

 

[JustAGuy1]

The Catholic Church is THE Church

That's not what my Bible says, sorry.

 

[nomadic5]

That's not what my Bible says, sorry.

Then your Bible is not a real one