The Lie of 9-11 and it's after effects

[wist43]

Let's ease me into your videos using this system.

Start with the Arabs. First if they never flew the airplanes, who do you believe flew them. They are the basis to start any schemes. Why would Government workers agree to die in airplane crashes?

There wasn't anybody on the planes, they were flown by RC.

The "terrorists" were connected to Able Danger. It was brought up in the congressional hearings, but was very quickly shut down as classified.

Watch the presentation by Webster Tarpley, he does an excellent job of shedding some light on Able Danger.

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Here, answer this question,

Since Gladio, the strategy of tension, is well documented, and there is no question that our CIA, Britains MI-6, and Israeli Mossad ran terrorist networks in Europe for decades. They killed hundreds (I'm sure thousands) of innocent civilians.

Most notable attacks were,

- 1969 bombing in Piazza Fontana, Milan, which killed 17 people.

- On August 2, 1980, a bomb exploded at the Bologna railway station, killing 85 people and injuring over 200.

- The 1978 kidnapping and murder of Aldo Moro.

- On 26 September 1980, the Oktoberfest Bombing in Munich, Germany. 13 people were killed and more than 200 injured.

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Can you fathom why our intelligence agencies would commit these and many other terrorist acts??

 

[Robert W]

There wasn't anybody on the planes, they were flown by RC.

The "terrorists" were connected to Able Danger. It was brought up in the congressional hearings, but was very quickly shut down as classified.

Watch the presentation by Webster Tarpley, he does an excellent job of shedding some light on Able Danger.

-----------------------

Here, answer this question,

Since Gladio, the strategy of tension, is well documented, and there is no question that our CIA, Britains MI-6, and Israeli Mossad ran terrorist networks in Europe for decades. They killed hundreds (I'm sure thousands) of innocent civilians.

Most notable attacks were,

- 1969 bombing in Piazza Fontana, Milan, which killed 17 people.

- On August 2, 1980, a bomb exploded at the Bologna railway station, killing 85 people and injuring over 200.

- The 1978 kidnapping and murder of Aldo Moro.

- On 26 September 1980, the Oktoberfest Bombing in Munich, Germany. 13 people were killed and more than 200 injured.

---------------------------------

Can you fathom why our intelligence agencies would commit these and many other terrorist acts??

There wasn't anybody on the planes, they were flown by RC.

The "terrorists" were connected to Able Danger. It was brought up in the congressional hearings, but was very quickly shut down as classified.

Watch the presentation by Webster Tarpley, he does an excellent job of shedding some light on Able Danger.

-----------------------

Here, answer this question,

Since Gladio, the strategy of tension, is well documented, and there is no question that our CIA, Britains MI-6, and Israeli Mossad ran terrorist networks in Europe for decades. They killed hundreds (I'm sure thousands) of innocent civilians.

Most notable attacks were,

- 1969 bombing in Piazza Fontana, Milan, which killed 17 people.

- On August 2, 1980, a bomb exploded at the Bologna railway station, killing 85 people and injuring over 200.

- The 1978 kidnapping and murder of Aldo Moro.

- On 26 September 1980, the Oktoberfest Bombing in Munich, Germany. 13 people were killed and more than 200 injured.

---------------------------------

Can you fathom why our intelligence agencies would commit these and many other terrorist acts??

I am concerned your videos will consume a lot of time. I am very interested in this situation. You mention flying using RC. Essentially you mean using autopilot. Those systems are not set up to have control from RC. Before we get into more deep weeds, I plan to look at your first video if it does not take a hell of a lot of time. Why not watch hours of it? Well, I already know what happened. So for me, it is a diversion is all. I flew airplanes with autopilot, and they were always self-contained systems such as you can imagine you have in your car radio. IF I told you I can use RC to drive your car, you would bust out laughing.

 

[Robert W]

By the same token,........... You willingly dismiss an Astronomical Amount of Data that flat out shows that whjat We were told by Our Government.
And, be it known here,..... Attorney General Barr, under POTUS Trump, did allow a "Hearing" to occur, but,..... It was picked apart on "Procedure, & Presentation".:

New York Fire Commissioners Call For new 9/11 Investigation: “Overwhelming Evidence Of Explosives”​

Date: July 30, 2019

"History was made this month in regard to 9/11 as New York area fire commissioners called for a new investigation into the tragic events that unfolded that day. The resolution called for a new investigation due to the “overwhelming evidence” that “pre-planted explosives . . . caused the destruction of the three World Trade Center buildings.”

On July 24, 2019, the Franklin Square and Munson Fire District, which oversees a volunteer fire department serving a hamlet of 30,000 residents just outside of Queens, New York, became the first legislative body in the country to officially support a new investigation into the events of 9/11, according to Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.

The resolution calling for a new investigation was drafted by Commissioner Christopher Gioia and it was immediately and unanimously approved by the five commissioners."

“We’re a tight-knit community and we never forget our fallen brothers and sisters. You better believe that when the entire fire service of New York State is on board, we will be an unstoppable force,” said Commissioner Christopher Gioia, adding, “We were the first fire district to pass this resolution. We won’t be the last.”​

According to the report:


“The Hetzel and Evans families were very appreciative of the proceedings,” Gioia commented the day after the meeting. “They know it’s an uphill struggle. But at least they have hope, which is something they haven’t had in a long time.”


The importance of this resolution — especially coming from a legislative body of firefighters — cannot be understated. The impact of first responders calling for a new investigation over the use of explosives is massive. The naysayers who call those who question the official narrative “kooks” will have a hard time going after fire commissioners.

This move is yet another blow to the highly questionable and hole-filled official narrative. As TFTP reported earlier this year, in another major move from the great folks over at the Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry, Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, and 9/11 victim family members Robert McIlvaine and Barbara Krukowski-Rastelli, a joint federal lawsuit has been filed to assess any evidence the FBI may have known about that contributed to the destruction of the towers on 9/11 which they may have kept from Congress.

The complaint cites the failure of the FBI and its 9/11 Review Commission to assess key 9/11-related evidence that the FBI can be shown to have had, or been aware of, regarding:

1. the use of pre-placed explosives to destroy World Trade Center Buildings, 1, 2, and 7;
2. the arrest and investigation of the “High Fivers” observed photographing and celebrating the attacks on the World Trade Center on 9/11;
3. terrorist financing related the reported Saudi support for the 9/11 hijackers;
4. recovered plane parts, including serial numbers from all three crash locations;
5. video from cameras mounted inside and outside the Pentagon; and
6. cell phone communications from passengers aboard airplanes.

According to the press release on Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, this is evidence relevant to the 9/11 Review Commission’s and the FBI’s compliance with the mandate from Congress, which should have been assessed by the FBI and the 9/11 Review Commission and reported to Congress. The complaint also cites the destruction by the FBI of evidence related to the “High Fivers.” Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth has joined in bringing the counts that involve the evidence of the World Trade Center’s explosive demolition and evidence related to the “High Fivers,” while the other plaintiffs are party to all counts.



Also, as TFTP previously reported, a monumental step forward in the relentless pursuit of 9/11 truth took place last December when a United States Attorney agreed to comply with federal law requiring submission to a Special Grand Jury of evidence that explosives were used to bring down the World Trade Centers. Then, in March, the group behind the submission, the Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry, announced the filing of a “petition supplement” naming persons who may have information related to the use of said explosives.

According to Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, the 33-page document contains 15 different categories of persons who may have information material to the investigation, including contractors and security companies that had access to the WTC Towers before 9/11, persons and entities who benefited financially from the WTC demolitions, and persons arrested after being observed celebrating the WTC attacks.


As TFTP reported in December, for the first time since 9/11 the federal government is taking steps to hear evidence that explosives may have been used to destroy the world trade centers.

The Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry successfully submitted a petition to the federal government demanding that the U.S. Attorney present to a Special Grand Jury extensive evidence of yet-to-be-prosecuted federal crimes relating to the destruction of three World Trade Center Towers on 9/11 (WTC1, WTC2 and WTC7).

After waiting months for the reply, the U.S. Attorney responded in a letter, noting that they will comply with the law.

“We have received and reviewed The Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry, Inc.’s submissions of April 10 and July 30, 2018. We will comply with the provisions of 18 U.S.C. § 3332 as they relate to your submissions,” U.S. Attorney Geoffrey Berman stated.

According to the petition, dozens of exhibits were presented as evidence that explosives were used to destroy all three world trade centers.


“This Petition Supplement is intended to assist the Special Grand Jury by providing a roadmap for a meaningful investigation into the yet-to-be-prosecuted 9/11 WTC crimes that the Lawyers’ Committee has reported and documented in our Petitions,” Attorney David Meiswinkle, President of the Lawyers’ Committee’s Board of Directors, said.

Finally, after nearly two decades of ridicule, dismissal, and outright intolerance of information contrary to the “official story” of what happened on 9/11, the public may finally learn the truth of what happened and who was behind it.

Article posted with permission from Matt Agorist"

Matt Agorist​

Matt Agorist is an honorably discharged veteran of the USMC and former intelligence operator directly tasked by the NSA. This prior experience gives him unique insight into the world of government corruption and the American police state. Agorist has been an independent journalist for over a decade and has been featured on mainstream networks around the world. Agorist is also the Editor at Large at the Free Thought Project.

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New York Fire Commissioners Call For new 9/11 Investigation: "Overwhelming Evidence Of Explosives"

History was made this month in regard to 9/11 as New York area fire commissioners called for a new investigation into the tragic events that unfolded that day. The resolution called for a new investigation due to the “overwhelming evidence” that “pre-planted explosives . . . caused the...

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I find no evidence that commission did more than sink into mire. Richard and Gail Gage were removed. He wanted others removed.
i find no record they got things going with a Grand Jury. Berman was later fired when he objected to the DOJ asking things of him he did not want to do.

The Truth You Were Not Told About the Richard Gage Transition

A Clear and Factual Account From the AE911Truth Board

www.ae911truth.org

 

[wist43]

I am concerned your videos will consume a lot of time. I am very interested in this situation. You mention flying using RC. Essentially you mean using autopilot. Those systems are not set up to have control from RC. Before we get into more deep weeds, I plan to look at your first video if it does not take a hell of a lot of time. Why not watch hours of it? Well, I already know what happened. So for me, it is a diversion is all. I flew airplanes with autopilot, and they were always self-contained systems such as you can imagine you have in your car radio. IF I told you I can use RC to drive your car, you would bust out laughing.

I wouldn't start with RC or any of the other aspects of the attacks themselves.

Like I said, you can't understand anything to do with 9/11 until you have a basic sense of false flags in general - which is why I suggested you watch the documentary on Gladio.

It's 47 minutes.

 

[Robert W]

Watch the videos. You don't seem to have any understanding whatsoever as to how our intelligence and defense institutions work.

Unless you're willing to learn those ABC's, you're destined to always believe everything your government tells you - which, I can assure you is fiction.

I am looking for the first video. I definitely don['t have a good understanding of the inteligencde and defense institutionjs work. I am fact driven and base my beliefs on this issue on the long reports by qualified engineers that examined the falling of the towers. Also, I studied the professional reports issued by the National Transportation Safety Board. Here is the gist of my problem.
A. Arabs flew the airplanes after they captured the cockpits.
B. Commercial airliners are not subject to RC taking control.
C. I also know for a fact they were trained to pilot airplanes.
D. Trying not to push weeds your way, once you are a pilot, on a death mission, where your only goal is to aim airplanes, a high degree of skill is not needed. To take off and land airliners, of course this takes a lot more skill. But to crash them, hardly more than a person trained to fly has. The Arabs had time to grasp using particular controls. And they were at altitude which gave them plenty of time to practice changing direction or speed or altitude. The skills to die take a lot less to master than to survive a landing at an airport. I am not saying the Arabs were going to be excellent at all, just barely able is enough.
E. WE all agree that the twin towers collapsed and that the Building called #7 also collapsed. Records supplied to the FAA and transportation board named the Arabs and explained what they did. We are also positive the airliners hit the two towers. We know the pilots on them were murdered. Records of the Arabs training to be pilots are still around. We know also the airliner hit the pentagon. Eye witnesses testified they saw the plane hit the pentagon. I myself have driven that very highway where the witnesses were. I also saw the pentagon prior to the crash of course.
F. While it might amuse particular posters to imagine the intelligence people did this, this really takes a major leap I don't think is wise.
G. We also have to consider Occam's Razor. The simple explanation often is the raw truth. The more complex you make this, the more humans get involved and for this it would take dozens to pull this off as you describe. It would take far more than pilots, it would take crews to secretly enter the towers to put explosives inside. The towers had full time security, so this makes no sense.

 

[Robert W]

9/11: The New Pearl Harbor asks and answers all of those questions.

I don't agree with all of it's proposals and conclusions, but there are a good many "experts" and professionals in this video who disprove and disclaim the official version.

When I was researching 9/11 there were many good, probing, scientific based documentaries and published articles disproving the official narrative - they are all gone.

So no, I didn’t just cook up my own theory out of thin air.

FDR believed that the later he got us into WW2, the more the Germans and Japanese could capture, and he realized by him putting ships into Pearl Harbor, it would excite the Japanese to attack there and also at the Philippines. See A Day of Deceit for evidence.

 

[Robert W]

If for no other reason than there was exactly zero fighter response.

I know why.

But there is more to this story. When the airliners were on their paths, the Arabs shut off the transponders. Those show FAA where the airplane is, it's ID numbers and it's speed and direction. They light up the radar screen at FAA. Shut off, the FAA is almost blind. When the Air force was told to scramble jets, they went to a designated holding pattern designed for incoming war planes. This put them over the Atlantic Ocean. The flights were not close to that holding area.

 

[candycorn]

Why would you trust anything the government tells you??

Because what they reported made perfect sense.

There are how may commercial pilots that call BS on the official narrative??

A very small percentage.

 

[candycorn]

By the same token,........... You willingly dismiss an Astronomical Amount of Data that flat out shows that whjat We were told by Our Government.
And, be it known here,..... Attorney General Barr, under POTUS Trump, did allow a "Hearing" to occur, but,..... It was picked apart on "Procedure, & Presentation".:

New York Fire Commissioners Call For new 9/11 Investigation: “Overwhelming Evidence Of Explosives”​

Date: July 30, 2019

"History was made this month in regard to 9/11 as New York area fire commissioners called for a new investigation into the tragic events that unfolded that day. The resolution called for a new investigation due to the “overwhelming evidence” that “pre-planted explosives . . . caused the destruction of the three World Trade Center buildings.”

On July 24, 2019, the Franklin Square and Munson Fire District, which oversees a volunteer fire department serving a hamlet of 30,000 residents just outside of Queens, New York, became the first legislative body in the country to officially support a new investigation into the events of 9/11, according to Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.

The resolution calling for a new investigation was drafted by Commissioner Christopher Gioia and it was immediately and unanimously approved by the five commissioners."

“We’re a tight-knit community and we never forget our fallen brothers and sisters. You better believe that when the entire fire service of New York State is on board, we will be an unstoppable force,” said Commissioner Christopher Gioia, adding, “We were the first fire district to pass this resolution. We won’t be the last.”​

According to the report:


“The Hetzel and Evans families were very appreciative of the proceedings,” Gioia commented the day after the meeting. “They know it’s an uphill struggle. But at least they have hope, which is something they haven’t had in a long time.”


The importance of this resolution — especially coming from a legislative body of firefighters — cannot be understated. The impact of first responders calling for a new investigation over the use of explosives is massive. The naysayers who call those who question the official narrative “kooks” will have a hard time going after fire commissioners.

This move is yet another blow to the highly questionable and hole-filled official narrative. As TFTP reported earlier this year, in another major move from the great folks over at the Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry, Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, and 9/11 victim family members Robert McIlvaine and Barbara Krukowski-Rastelli, a joint federal lawsuit has been filed to assess any evidence the FBI may have known about that contributed to the destruction of the towers on 9/11 which they may have kept from Congress.

The complaint cites the failure of the FBI and its 9/11 Review Commission to assess key 9/11-related evidence that the FBI can be shown to have had, or been aware of, regarding:

1. the use of pre-placed explosives to destroy World Trade Center Buildings, 1, 2, and 7;
2. the arrest and investigation of the “High Fivers” observed photographing and celebrating the attacks on the World Trade Center on 9/11;
3. terrorist financing related the reported Saudi support for the 9/11 hijackers;
4. recovered plane parts, including serial numbers from all three crash locations;
5. video from cameras mounted inside and outside the Pentagon; and
6. cell phone communications from passengers aboard airplanes.

According to the press release on Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, this is evidence relevant to the 9/11 Review Commission’s and the FBI’s compliance with the mandate from Congress, which should have been assessed by the FBI and the 9/11 Review Commission and reported to Congress. The complaint also cites the destruction by the FBI of evidence related to the “High Fivers.” Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth has joined in bringing the counts that involve the evidence of the World Trade Center’s explosive demolition and evidence related to the “High Fivers,” while the other plaintiffs are party to all counts.



Also, as TFTP previously reported, a monumental step forward in the relentless pursuit of 9/11 truth took place last December when a United States Attorney agreed to comply with federal law requiring submission to a Special Grand Jury of evidence that explosives were used to bring down the World Trade Centers. Then, in March, the group behind the submission, the Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry, announced the filing of a “petition supplement” naming persons who may have information related to the use of said explosives.

According to Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, the 33-page document contains 15 different categories of persons who may have information material to the investigation, including contractors and security companies that had access to the WTC Towers before 9/11, persons and entities who benefited financially from the WTC demolitions, and persons arrested after being observed celebrating the WTC attacks.


As TFTP reported in December, for the first time since 9/11 the federal government is taking steps to hear evidence that explosives may have been used to destroy the world trade centers.

The Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry successfully submitted a petition to the federal government demanding that the U.S. Attorney present to a Special Grand Jury extensive evidence of yet-to-be-prosecuted federal crimes relating to the destruction of three World Trade Center Towers on 9/11 (WTC1, WTC2 and WTC7).

After waiting months for the reply, the U.S. Attorney responded in a letter, noting that they will comply with the law.

“We have received and reviewed The Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry, Inc.’s submissions of April 10 and July 30, 2018. We will comply with the provisions of 18 U.S.C. § 3332 as they relate to your submissions,” U.S. Attorney Geoffrey Berman stated.

According to the petition, dozens of exhibits were presented as evidence that explosives were used to destroy all three world trade centers.


“This Petition Supplement is intended to assist the Special Grand Jury by providing a roadmap for a meaningful investigation into the yet-to-be-prosecuted 9/11 WTC crimes that the Lawyers’ Committee has reported and documented in our Petitions,” Attorney David Meiswinkle, President of the Lawyers’ Committee’s Board of Directors, said.

Finally, after nearly two decades of ridicule, dismissal, and outright intolerance of information contrary to the “official story” of what happened on 9/11, the public may finally learn the truth of what happened and who was behind it.

Article posted with permission from Matt Agorist"

Matt Agorist​

Matt Agorist is an honorably discharged veteran of the USMC and former intelligence operator directly tasked by the NSA. This prior experience gives him unique insight into the world of government corruption and the American police state. Agorist has been an independent journalist for over a decade and has been featured on mainstream networks around the world. Agorist is also the Editor at Large at the Free Thought Project.

All author posts

New York Fire Commissioners Call For new 9/11 Investigation: "Overwhelming Evidence Of Explosives"

History was made this month in regard to 9/11 as New York area fire commissioners called for a new investigation into the tragic events that unfolded that day. The resolution called for a new investigation due to the “overwhelming evidence” that “pre-planted explosives . . . caused the...

thewashingtonstandard.com

wrong.

 

[candycorn]

There wasn't anybody on the planes, they were flown by RC.

The "terrorists" were connected to Able Danger. It was brought up in the congressional hearings, but was very quickly shut down as classified.

Watch the presentation by Webster Tarpley, he does an excellent job of shedding some light on Able Danger.

-----------------------

Here, answer this question,

Since Gladio, the strategy of tension, is well documented, and there is no question that our CIA, Britains MI-6, and Israeli Mossad ran terrorist networks in Europe for decades. They killed hundreds (I'm sure thousands) of innocent civilians.

Most notable attacks were,

- 1969 bombing in Piazza Fontana, Milan, which killed 17 people.

- On August 2, 1980, a bomb exploded at the Bologna railway station, killing 85 people and injuring over 200.

- The 1978 kidnapping and murder of Aldo Moro.

- On 26 September 1980, the Oktoberfest Bombing in Munich, Germany. 13 people were killed and more than 200 injured.

---------------------------------

Can you fathom why our intelligence agencies would commit these and many other terrorist acts??

So no word on the light poles?

Any word on why they found passenger's drivers licenses, ID cards, DNA, jewelry, etc... at the crash sites if the planes were empty?

 

[wist43]

I know why.

But there is more to this story. When the airliners were on their paths, the Arabs shut off the transponders. Those show FAA where the airplane is, it's ID numbers and it's speed and direction. They light up the radar screen at FAA. Shut off, the FAA is almost blind. When the Air force was told to scramble jets, they went to a designated holding pattern designed for incoming war planes. This put them over the Atlantic Ocean. The flights were not close to that holding area.

In the 9/11 Pearl Harbor documentary they play the actual ATC recordings, and there are some interviews with the controllers themselves.

As for RC, no planes were "taken over" by RC. The planes that hit the towers were not the original planes that took off from Newark, et al.

As per the original Operation Northwoods proposal, the passenger planes were swapped out in flight with modified RC planes that were directed most likely from an AWACS platform.

You have to remember that the planes that hit the towers and Pentagon were travelling well above VMO at sea level. The 9/11 New Pearl Harbor video discusses this with pilots and Aeronautical Engineers who explain that it would be impossible for a regular commercial airliner to withstand the forces exerted at those speeds. Let alone allow them to still be maneuverable enough to achieve the flight path we have on radar.

That being the case, occam's razor, the planes flown into the towers were not the original planes that took off from the various airports.

Rather, it is far more likely that those planes were modified and reinforced well in advance in anticipation of this mission knowing they would have to be flown at speeds well above VMO - and they performed the mission they were designed for very well.

In my research from a little over 15 years ago, I concluded that the planning for 9/11 began at least 4 prior to 2001, and Aeronautical packages were beginning to be organized by Dov Zakheim about 3 years in advance.

The wiring of the buildings began about 2 years in advance by contractors (CIA fronts) hired to refurbish and rewire the elevator shafts and other mechanical updates.

This gave them continual and unfettered access to the interior structural supports for a full 2 years before 9/11.

Once you have a basic understanding of how our intelligence community operates, the above scenario makes perfect sense.

 

[candycorn]

In the 9/11 Pearl Harbor documentary they play the actual ATC recordings, and there are some interviews with the controllers themselves.

As for RC, no planes were "taken over" by RC. The planes that hit the towers were not the original planes that took off from Newark, et al.

So now there are 8 planes involved in this plot? LOL...wow.

As per the original Operation Northwoods proposal, the passenger planes were swapped out in flight with modified RC planes that were directed most likely from an AWACS platform.

You have to remember that the planes that hit the towers and Pentagon were travelling well above VMO at sea level. The 9/11 New Pearl Harbor video discusses this with pilots and Aeronautical Engineers who explain that it would be impossible for a regular commercial airliner to withstand the forces exerted at those speeds. Let alone allow them to still be maneuverable enough to achieve the flight path we have on radar.

Not remotely true. On the other hand, the planes did crash...so I guess you have that going for you.

That being the case, occam's razor, the planes flown into the towers were not the original planes that took off from the various airports.

Rather, it is far more likely that those planes were modified and reinforced well in advance in anticipation of this mission knowing they would have to be flown at speeds well above VMO - and they performed the mission they were designed for very well.

Both planes hitting the twin towers were traveling at standard speeds for aircraft that size.

In my research from a little over 15 years ago, I concluded that the planning for 9/11 began at least 4 prior to 2001, and Aeronautical packages were beginning to be organized by Dov Zakheim about 3 years in advance.

You've been doing this for 15 years and you still have this kookie theory?

The wiring of the buildings began about 2 years in advance by contractors (CIA fronts) hired to refurbish and rewire the elevator shafts and other mechanical updates.

Yet no explosives were found in the rubble.

This gave them continual and unfettered access to the interior structural supports for a full 2 years before 9/11.

Once you have a basic understanding of how our intelligence community operates, the above scenario makes perfect sense.

Nothing you've stated makes any sense whatsoever.

For one thing passenger DNA and remains were found at the crash sites.

You can't account for something this elementary....

 

[Robert W]

In the 9/11 Pearl Harbor documentary they play the actual ATC recordings, and there are some interviews with the controllers themselves.

As for RC, no planes were "taken over" by RC. The planes that hit the towers were not the original planes that took off from Newark, et al.

As per the original Operation Northwoods proposal, the passenger planes were swapped out in flight with modified RC planes that were directed most likely from an AWACS platform.

You have to remember that the planes that hit the towers and Pentagon were travelling well above VMO at sea level. The 9/11 New Pearl Harbor video discusses this with pilots and Aeronautical Engineers who explain that it would be impossible for a regular commercial airliner to withstand the forces exerted at those speeds. Let alone allow them to still be maneuverable enough to achieve the flight path we have on radar.

That being the case, occam's razor, the planes flown into the towers were not the original planes that took off from the various airports.

Rather, it is far more likely that those planes were modified and reinforced well in advance in anticipation of this mission knowing they would have to be flown at speeds well above VMO - and they performed the mission they were designed for very well.

In my research from a little over 15 years ago, I concluded that the planning for 9/11 began at least 4 prior to 2001, and Aeronautical packages were beginning to be organized by Dov Zakheim about 3 years in advance.

The wiring of the buildings began about 2 years in advance by contractors (CIA fronts) hired to refurbish and rewire the elevator shafts and other mechanical updates.

This gave them continual and unfettered access to the interior structural supports for a full 2 years before 9/11.

Once you have a basic understanding of how our intelligence community operates, the above scenario makes perfect sense.

Thank God you are one of the few who live with those thoughts.

Two last questions. What happened to all of the passengers? Where did the original aircraft end up at?

 

[wist43]

Thank God you are one of the few who live with those thoughts.

Two last questions. What happened to all of the passengers? Where did the original aircraft end up at?

This is ABC of how your government operates - which is why I suggested you watch the Gladio video.

How many innocent civilians has your government killed during Gladio?? The Bologna Train Bombing alone killed 85 and injured 200. Why would they do that??

 

[PeterPilot]

They quite possibly had a heavy hand in it Peter, but at the very least the Bush Jr. Admin. was Massively involved.

Yes, Bush & Co were every bit the Zionists that Trump & Co are. Congress has been "Israeli controlled territory" since the 60s. That was the term coined by Everett Dirksen way back when. My congresscritter Brian Mast wore his IDF uniform in congress. That's how controlled we are.

The Comptroller of the Pentagon during Bush's term was Dov Zakheim, a Brooklyn born dual citizen Zionist with involvement in Israeli Aircraft Industries.

 

[wist43]

Thank God you are one of the few who live with those thoughts.

Two last questions. What happened to all of the passengers? Where did the original aircraft end up at?

Robert, you don't understand enough about how intelligence agencies use false flag events.

These are common activities for intelligence agencies world wide. It's not just CIA and MI-6.

The Russians do it, the Chinese, all of the NATO countries. It's standard practice.

Even The Gunpowder Treason of 1605 with Guy Fawkes was a false flag.

This stuff is standard Machiavellian practice. Been going on for centuries.

That said, 9/11 was the most spectacular and visible false flag in all of recorded history.

The USS Liberty and the Gulf of Tonkin are very well known as well, but even with those our governments and the financial powers above them have been able to successfully muddy the waters to create false narratives, which the public gladly accepts.

Gladio is easy to understand. Watch the documentary.

 

[Robert W]

Robert, you don't understand enough about how intelligence agencies use false flag events.

These are common activities for intelligence agencies world wide. It's not just CIA and MI-6.

The Russians do it, the Chinese, all of the NATO countries. It's standard practice.

Even The Gunpowder Treason of 1605 with Guy Fawkes was a false flag.

This stuff is standard Machiavellian practice. Been going on for centuries.

That said, 9/11 was the most spectacular and visible false flag in all of recorded history.

The USS Liberty and the Gulf of Tonkin are very well known as well, but even with those our governments and the financial powers above them have been able to successfully muddy the waters to create false narratives, which the public gladly accepts.

Gladio is easy to understand. Watch the documentary.

I am also well acquainted with the USS Liberty attacks and the Gulf of Tonkin deceit by Johnson.

 

[candycorn]

Robert, you don't understand enough about how intelligence agencies use false flag events.

These are common activities for intelligence agencies world wide. It's not just CIA and MI-6.

The Russians do it, the Chinese, all of the NATO countries. It's standard practice.

Even The Gunpowder Treason of 1605 with Guy Fawkes was a false flag.

This stuff is standard Machiavellian practice. Been going on for centuries.

That said, 9/11 was the most spectacular and visible false flag in all of recorded history.

The USS Liberty and the Gulf of Tonkin are very well known as well, but even with those our governments and the financial powers above them have been able to successfully muddy the waters to create false narratives, which the public gladly accepts.

Gladio is easy to understand. Watch the documentary.

So still no answers

 

[Robert W]

So still no answers

He was not asking questions. He was dialoguing his strange theory.

 

[wist43]

He was not asking questions. He was dialoguing his strange theory.

I'm trying get you to look at the information I provided you in the documentaries.

It's like pulling teeth to get people to look at anything outside of the box they live in.

There were people in Germany after WWII ended that believed to their dying day that Poland attacked Germany on September 1, 1939.

No amount of facts could dissuade them. They believed Hitler's absurd and clumsy false flag was real.

You're willing to accept your governments telling without challenge. That's how citizens march themselves right into tyranny.