The latest attack on Trump is that his ceasefire is helping the Iranian Regime "rebuild". How?

[MarathonMike]

With the blockade of Iranian ports in place and full control of Iranian airspace, how exactly is the Regime rebuilding? They can't get new missiles and weaponry in. Their money supply has been essentially shutoff. The IRGC is clearly asserting their control and pushing the Supreme Council to the sidelines. I suppose they could be pulling missiles and drones out of hiding spots, but our "eyes in the skies" see all, and those hiding spots are just put on the target list.

 

[Woodznutz]

We should lift the blockade and allow Iran to sell their oil. If they use the money to rebuild their military, we can go back and destroy it again. Their choice.

And regardless of the lies coming out of Washington, our military needs time to resupply, badly.

 

[Churchill]

With the blockade of Iranian ports in place and full control of Iranian airspace, how exactly is the Regime rebuilding? They can't get new missiles and weaponry in. Their money supply has been essentially shutoff. The IRGC is clearly asserting their control and pushing the Supreme Council to the sidelines. I suppose they could be pulling missiles and drones out of hiding spots, but our "eyes in the skies" see all, and those hiding spots are just put on the target list.

You have absolutely no idea what the Iranians could have, how they are supplied, who might be supplying them, what weapons they still have and so on.

The likely also have chemical/biological weapons just as Israel does.

 

[MarathonMike]

You have absolutely no idea what the Iranians could have, how they are supplied, who might be supplying them, what weapons they still have and so on.

The likely also have chemical/biological weapons just as Israel does.

The point is, with the Iranian port blockade in place and their airports essentially closed their primary means of receiving weaponry is shutoff. More importantly, they can't export their oil or extort money from other countries through tolls. Yes they probably do have chem/bio weapons, that is irrelevant to the ceasefire "helping" the Regime.

 

[the watcher]

Is that the US Navy off the starboard bow?

 

[Churchill]

The point is, with the Iranian port blockade in place and their airports essentially closed their primary means of receiving weaponry is shutoff. More importantly, they can't export their oil or extort money from other countries through tolls. Yes they probably do have chem/bio weapons, that is irrelevant to the ceasefire "helping" the Regime.

Iran can decimate the Gulf states, what they did previously was very measured, tit-for-tat but they are capable of destrioying desalination plants in Saudi Arabia for example.

If they did that then there will no longer be a Saudi Arabia, the kindom will rapidly collapse, in a week it will be worse than if a nuclear weapon had been dropped.

Now if you actually knew how to research this entire subject you'd know this, but I guess you just regurgitate what you hear on Fox.

Iran's possible attacks on Gulf desalination plants may devastate region - Türkiye Today

Over 400 desalination plants supply Gulf drinking water, experts warn that damage to one facility could trigger a humanitarian crisis

www.turkiyetoday.com

Now hopefully you will agree, that to resume the bombinbg of Iran by the US and Israel is a very very huge risk, why do it? why risk destroying (I mean real destruction, rapid depopulation and mass deaths) entire Gulf States?

Iran has stated several times that it will do this if it's existence is threatened, so why bomb the place?

Leave Iran alone and tell Israel to **** off, else you might find millions of Gulf Arabs arriving in your town, you know, ally states.

 

[debbiedowner]

Russia can supply Iran by the Caspian Sea like they have been.

 

[MarathonMike]

Iran can decimate the Gulf states, what they did previously was very measured, tit-for-tat but they are capable of destrioying desalination plants in Saudi Arabia for example.

If they did that then there will no longer be a Saudi Arabia, the kindom will rapidly collapse, in a week it will be worse than if a nuclear weapon had been dropped.

Now if you actually knew how to research this entire subject you'd know this, but I guess you just regurgitate what you hear on Fox.

Iran's possible attacks on Gulf desalination plants may devastate region - Türkiye Today

Over 400 desalination plants supply Gulf drinking water, experts warn that damage to one facility could trigger a humanitarian crisis

www.turkiyetoday.com

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Now hopefully you will agree, that to resume the bombinbg of Iran by the US and Israel is a very very huge risk, why do it? why risk destroying (I mean real destruction, rapid depopulation and mass deaths) entire Gulf States?

Iran has stated several times that it will do this if it's existence is threatened, so why bomb the place?

Leave Iran alone and tell Israel to **** off, else you might find millions of Gulf Arabs arriving in your town, you know, ally states.

You seem more interested in demeaning me than addressing the topic. Pretty typical for Leftist Trump Haters. Iran WAS a global threat before we pummeled them to a small fraction of what they were. The cease fire is the correct strategy at this point of the conflict. The IRGC leadership is staging (or has completed) a grab for control of Iran. IRGC soldiers are defecting in mass numbers. Their money supply is all but cut off. Tick Tock, the clock works for us and against them.

 

[leftwinger]

DEVELOPING: President Trump Abruptly Cancels Witkoff, Kushner Trip to Pakistan for Iran Peace Talks | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

President Trump abruptly canceled his envoys' trip to Pakistan for peace talks with Iran.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

I just cancelled the trip of my representatives going is Islamabad, Pakistan, to meet with the Iranians. Too much time wasted on traveling, too much work! Besides which, there is tremendous infighting and confusion within their “leadership.” Nobody knows who is in charge, including them. Also, we have all the cards, they have none! If they want to talk, all they have to do is call!!! President DONALD J. TRUMP

//Reports on USMB said IRAN had ~13 days more to pump and store oil? Out of capacity? Then the wells would begin to go non-funtional or something? That was 5 days ago. Now the mullahs don't know who is in charge or can't come to any agreements. Trump is no longer letting them dictate anything.//

 

[Churchill]

You seem more interested in demeaning me than addressing the topic. Pretty typical for Leftist Trump Haters. Iran WAS a global threat before we pummeled them to a small fraction of what they were.

No they weren't a "global threat" even US intelligence services said so. Nobody other than Nazinyahu and Trump have made that claim. Does trump have better knowledge about Iran than his own intelligence organizations?

The greatest threat to peace and security in the Middle East is Zionist Israel, everyone knows this.

The cease fire is the correct strategy at this point of the conflict.

No it isn't, leaving and bring the US troops home is the correct strategy, get back to your own country.

The IRGC leadership is staging (or has completed) a grab for control of Iran.

That's their business.

IRGC soldiers are defecting in mass numbers.

How many? what numbers? sources please? I don't see any sources for this belief other than Iran International a Saudi owned UK based anti-Iran propaganda operation.

Their money supply is all but cut off. Tick Tock, the clock works for us and against them.

The world is being hugely impacted, oil, jet fuel, fertilizer - all because of the Zionist regimes violence.

Israel keeps pressing the US to resume bombing, why would Israel want to do that if regime collapse is imminent?

 

[MarathonMike]

No they weren't a "global threat"

LOL your last two replies expounded on exactly why Iran WAS A GLOBAL THREAT. Geez Winston, make up your mind!

 

[Churchill]

LOL your last two replies expounded on exactly why Iran WAS A GLOBAL THREAT. Geez Winston, make up your mind!

The threat was and is Israel, it started the illegal assault on Iran and the US followed like an obedient servant. Iran fought back as any nation in that situation would.

I've scanned the web too for credible sources of mass IRGC desretions and found none, lots from Iran International so I can ignore those, a few from Israeli sources and then lots and lots of tweets, facebook posts and instagram posts and reposts which are nothing but gossip.

Sources I would fully expect to see this in if it were true are The Guardian, AlJazeera, BBC etc - but nothing. The claim seems to be propaganda.

I therefore do not take the claim seriously.

 

[Yarddog]

You have absolutely no idea what the Iranians could have, how they are supplied, who might be supplying them, what weapons they still have and so on.

The likely also have chemical/biological weapons just as Israel does.

Our government has a pretty good idea, but we don't share the same intel here on USMB.

 

[Churchill]

Our government has a pretty good idea, but we don't share the same intel here on USMB.

Your intelligence services will do, but trump never listens to them if Netanyahu says something different, he trusts him more that his own security services.

But if they don't share it on USMB how can people on USMB claim to know anytghing?

 

[Woodznutz]

You have absolutely no idea what the Iranians could have, how they are supplied, who might be supplying them, what weapons they still have and so on.

The likely also have chemical/biological weapons just as Israel does.

This is what I worry about most. Iran could be luring our ships in for a massive strike with these high speed torpedoes.

MSN

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We should lift the blockade and allow Iran to sell their oil. If they use the money to rebuild their military, we can go back and destroy it again. Their choice.

And regardless of the lies coming out of Washington, our military needs time to resupply, badly.

In war, never pay for the same real estate twice!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Russia can supply Iran by the Caspian Sea like they have been.

What could the Russians possibly spare to Iran that it doesn't need in Ukraine?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This is what I worry about most. Iran could be luring our ships in for a massive strike with these high speed torpedoes.

MSN

"The torpedo can be launched from a variety of platforms, including submarines, surface vessels, and coastal batteries, making it a versatile tool in Iran’s naval arsenal."

Of which, Iran currently possess exactly NONE!