The John Kennedy assassination ..who's who on the Grassy Knoll

[daws101]

someone farted in here.

another insightful retort by hand job!

 

[SigTurner]

There was no shot from the grassy knoll. Only a complete idiot would take position there. It is too exposed and forces the shooter to make a diagonal, crossfield shot on a moving target, obstructed by an unpredictable number of spectators.

The head shot most likely came from the Dal-Tex buliding, which, incidentally, offers the best and clearest angle on the target, as well as the best cover for the shooter who was likely nested somewhere behind the fire escape using a suppressed AR-15 type weapon and JHP ammo.

 

[Bfgrn]

There was no shot from the grassy knoll. Only a complete idiot would take position there. It is too exposed and forces the shooter to make a diagonal, crossfield shot on a moving target, obstructed by an unpredictable number of spectators.

The head shot most likely came from the Dal-Tex buliding, which, incidentally, offers the best and clearest angle on the target, as well as the best cover for the shooter who was likely nested somewhere behind the fire escape using a suppressed AR-15 type weapon and JHP ammo.

There were witnesses who saw 2 men fire from the grassy knoll and saw puffs of smoke.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_wP-kCdQPE]JFK - The Death of Eyewitness Lee Bowers - YouTube[/ame]

 

[7forever]

This was the first book written about the Secret Service Agent, William Greer being jfk's real assassin. You can order this book now. It's just a little ironic that Lancer would host this book launch since they provided disinfo way back in mid 90's about the Zapruder film.

Murder From Within

It has been noted as one of the most significant events of the 20th Century - the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Murder From Within is a startling take on the power of a handful of top officials and secret service agents who orchestrated the kill shot of the President and got away with it.

Written in 1974, Murder From Within was the first book on the Kennedy assassination to document accurately and in detail how and why President Kennedy was killed. Unlike other conspiracy books, there is no conjecture or uncertainty as to what happened on Nov 22, 1963. Documented facts and eyewitness accounts from public records and the authors' own private interviews draw a clear picture of the events on that fateful day. Because of the names named and who they were, Murder From Within was never published beyond the 100 copies originally printed.

On November 18, 2011 the book will make its public debut at the JFK Lancer's Annual International Conference. Invited speaker Tyler Newcomb will present Murder From Within and will also explain key details in the murder plot and coverup of JFK's assassination.

Murder from Within, Lyndon Johnson's Plot Against President Kennedy

 

[Bfgrn]

This was the first book written about the Secret Service Agent, William Greer being jfk's real assassin. You can order this book now. It's just a little ironic that Lancer would host this book launch since they provided disinfo way back in mid 90's about the Zapruder film.

Murder From Within

It has been noted as one of the most significant events of the 20th Century - the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Murder From Within is a startling take on the power of a handful of top officials and secret service agents who orchestrated the kill shot of the President and got away with it.

Written in 1974, Murder From Within was the first book on the Kennedy assassination to document accurately and in detail how and why President Kennedy was killed. Unlike other conspiracy books, there is no conjecture or uncertainty as to what happened on Nov 22, 1963. Documented facts and eyewitness accounts from public records and the authors' own private interviews draw a clear picture of the events on that fateful day. Because of the names named and who they were, Murder From Within was never published beyond the 100 copies originally printed.

On November 18, 2011 the book will make its public debut at the JFK Lancer's Annual International Conference. Invited speaker Tyler Newcomb will present Murder From Within and will also explain key details in the murder plot and coverup of JFK's assassination.

Murder from Within, Lyndon Johnson's Plot Against President Kennedy

The driver did not kill the President. It is ridiculous.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

There was no shot from the grassy knoll. Only a complete idiot would take position there. It is too exposed and forces the shooter to make a diagonal, crossfield shot on a moving target, obstructed by an unpredictable number of spectators.

The head shot most likely came from the Dal-Tex buliding, which, incidentally, offers the best and clearest angle on the target, as well as the best cover for the shooter who was likely nested somewhere behind the fire escape using a suppressed AR-15 type weapon and JHP ammo.

There were witnesses who saw 2 men fire from the grassy knoll and saw puffs of smoke.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_wP-kCdQPE]JFK - The Death of Eyewitness Lee Bowers - YouTube[/ame]

yes anybody who has done any serious research on this knows that a few witnesses said they saw a gunman behind the picket fence with a rifle which was a diversion to get everybodys attention away from Greer. also the laws of physics show this guy slept through junior high school science classes in the fact your head never goes backwards from a rear end shot even Dan Rather the only person allowed to view the zapruder film before the whole world was able to and the only journalist to do so,said Kennedys head went forward.Rather lied because he knew about the laws of physics.when he learned the warren commission said oswald did it,he changed his story and stuck with it.

 

[Bfgrn]

There was no shot from the grassy knoll. Only a complete idiot would take position there. It is too exposed and forces the shooter to make a diagonal, crossfield shot on a moving target, obstructed by an unpredictable number of spectators.

The head shot most likely came from the Dal-Tex buliding, which, incidentally, offers the best and clearest angle on the target, as well as the best cover for the shooter who was likely nested somewhere behind the fire escape using a suppressed AR-15 type weapon and JHP ammo.

There were witnesses who saw 2 men fire from the grassy knoll and saw puffs of smoke.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_wP-kCdQPE]JFK - The Death of Eyewitness Lee Bowers - YouTube[/ame]

yes anybody who has done any serious research on this knows that a few witnesses said they saw a gunman behind the picket fence with a rifle which was a diversion to get everybodys attention away from Greer. also the laws of physics show this guy slept through junior high school science classes in the fact your head never goes backwards from a rear end shot even Dan Rather the only person allowed to view the zapruder film before the whole world was able to and the only journalist to do so,said Kennedys head went forward.Rather lied because he knew about the laws of physics.when he learned the warren commission said oswald did it,he changed his story and stuck with it.

Anyone who has done any serious research would be aware that people in Dealey Plaza instinctively ran up the grassy knoll where shots were fired.

JFK - Mark Bell JFK Film Enhanced - YouTube

 

[Rationalist1016]

There was no shot from the grassy knoll. Only a complete idiot would take position there. It is too exposed and forces the shooter to make a diagonal, crossfield shot on a moving target, obstructed by an unpredictable number of spectators.

The head shot most likely came from the Dal-Tex buliding, which, incidentally, offers the best and clearest angle on the target, as well as the best cover for the shooter who was likely nested somewhere behind the fire escape using a suppressed AR-15 type weapon and JHP ammo.

There were witnesses who saw 2 men fire from the grassy knoll and saw puffs of smoke.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_wP-kCdQPE]JFK - The Death of Eyewitness Lee Bowers - YouTube[/ame]

yes anybody who has done any serious research on this knows that a few witnesses said they saw a gunman behind the picket fence with a rifle which was a diversion to get everybodys attention away from Greer. also the laws of physics show this guy slept through junior high school science classes in the fact your head never goes backwards from a rear end shot even Dan Rather the only person allowed to view the zapruder film before the whole world was able to and the only journalist to do so,said Kennedys head went forward.Rather lied because he knew about the laws of physics.when he learned the warren commission said oswald did it,he changed his story and stuck with it.

If you are going to use the physics of Kennedys head movement to draw your conclusion, then how can you support "the driver did it" theory? If a shot from the right rear (or even straight from the rear for that matter) won't cause the head to go back to the left (as Kennedys did), then a shot from the front left isn't going to either. If your claim is that the head will move in the direction of the bullet, that would EXCLUDE Greer as the shooter.

 

[7forever]

This was the first book written about the Secret Service Agent, William Greer being jfk's real assassin. You can order this book now. It's just a little ironic that Lancer would host this book launch since they provided disinfo way back in mid 90's about the Zapruder film.

Murder from Within, Lyndon Johnson's Plot Against President Kennedy

The driver did not kill the President. It is ridiculous.

The driver did kill the President. It is obvious. The grassy knoll is an old and easily debunked theory. It is laughable that kooks still post that nonsense.

 

[Bfgrn]

This was the first book written about the Secret Service Agent, William Greer being jfk's real assassin. You can order this book now. It's just a little ironic that Lancer would host this book launch since they provided disinfo way back in mid 90's about the Zapruder film.

Murder from Within, Lyndon Johnson's Plot Against President Kennedy

The driver did not kill the President. It is ridiculous.

The driver did kill the President. It is obvious. The grassy knoll is an old and easily debunked theory. It is laughable that kooks still post that nonsense.

If Greer wanted to kill the President, WHY would he do it in broad daylight? He had access to the President in private settings... you really need to THINK. There was another Secret Service agent in the limo along with the President's wife, the Governor of Texas and his wife, plus a carload of very loyal agents in the Queen Mary just behind the President.

 

[candycorn]

There were witnesses who saw 2 men fire from the grassy knoll and saw puffs of smoke.

JFK - The Death of Eyewitness Lee Bowers - YouTube

yes anybody who has done any serious research on this knows that a few witnesses said they saw a gunman behind the picket fence with a rifle which was a diversion to get everybodys attention away from Greer. also the laws of physics show this guy slept through junior high school science classes in the fact your head never goes backwards from a rear end shot even Dan Rather the only person allowed to view the zapruder film before the whole world was able to and the only journalist to do so,said Kennedys head went forward.Rather lied because he knew about the laws of physics.when he learned the warren commission said oswald did it,he changed his story and stuck with it.

If you are going to use the physics of Kennedys head movement to draw your conclusion, then how can you support "the driver did it" theory? If a shot from the right rear (or even straight from the rear for that matter) won't cause the head to go back to the left (as Kennedys did), then a shot from the front left isn't going to either. If your claim is that the head will move in the direction of the bullet, that would EXCLUDE Greer as the shooter.

You'd also have to rationalize why no members of the Presidential limo were deafened by the gunshot a few inches from their ears.

The entire notion is bullshit.

 

[daws101]

yes anybody who has done any serious research on this knows that a few witnesses said they saw a gunman behind the picket fence with a rifle which was a diversion to get everybodys attention away from Greer. also the laws of physics show this guy slept through junior high school science classes in the fact your head never goes backwards from a rear end shot even Dan Rather the only person allowed to view the zapruder film before the whole world was able to and the only journalist to do so,said Kennedys head went forward.Rather lied because he knew about the laws of physics.when he learned the warren commission said oswald did it,he changed his story and stuck with it.

If you are going to use the physics of Kennedys head movement to draw your conclusion, then how can you support "the driver did it" theory? If a shot from the right rear (or even straight from the rear for that matter) won't cause the head to go back to the left (as Kennedys did), then a shot from the front left isn't going to either. If your claim is that the head will move in the direction of the bullet, that would EXCLUDE Greer as the shooter.

You'd also have to rationalize why no members of the Presidential limo were deafened by the gunshot a few inches from their ears.

The entire notion is bullshit.

if you buy that...you'd have to believe that Greer could stop time or barrow an Elvin cloak from Frodo to be invisible as he ran to the back of the limo and shot Connelly with a pistol that fired the same caliber bullets as the 6.5 mm Carcano Model 91/38 rifle.
then rush back, jump in the drivers side of limo, stash the cloak and drive off without the limo ever slowing down.
in front of TV cameras ,photographers and a shit load of wittinesses!

 

[Bfgrn]

If you are going to use the physics of Kennedys head movement to draw your conclusion, then how can you support "the driver did it" theory? If a shot from the right rear (or even straight from the rear for that matter) won't cause the head to go back to the left (as Kennedys did), then a shot from the front left isn't going to either. If your claim is that the head will move in the direction of the bullet, that would EXCLUDE Greer as the shooter.

You'd also have to rationalize why no members of the Presidential limo were deafened by the gunshot a few inches from their ears.

The entire notion is bullshit.

if you buy that...you'd have to believe that Greer could stop time or barrow an Elvin cloak from Frodo to be invisible as he ran to the back of the limo and shot Connelly with a pistol that fired the same caliber bullets as the 6.5 mm Carcano Model 91/38 rifle.
then rush back, jump in the drivers side of limo, stash the cloak and drive off without the limo ever slowing down.
in front of TV cameras ,photographers and a shit load of wittinesses!

I agree with you, but I've thought about composing a post to explain what life was like in 1963 for people who were not alive back then. It was still the stone age as far as TV goes. There were no TV cameras in Dealey Plaza, only amateur photographers. Abraham Zapruder's film was made on an 8 mm home movie camera.

Another important fact: The Warren Commission authored a 26 volume report in 1964. It claimed Oswald was the line assassin. The American people bought the report, figuring that a report being that voluminous must have been the result of a thorough investigation. It wasn't until 1975 that the America public got to see the Zapruder film. Seeing the President's head thrown against the trunk of the limo, and Jackie climbing on the trunk lid to retrieve a piece of her husband's head caused an outrage. Americans knew they were lied to.

 

[daws101]

You'd also have to rationalize why no members of the Presidential limo were deafened by the gunshot a few inches from their ears.

The entire notion is bullshit.

if you buy that...you'd have to believe that Greer could stop time or barrow an Elvin cloak from Frodo to be invisible as he ran to the back of the limo and shot Connelly with a pistol that fired the same caliber bullets as the 6.5 mm Carcano Model 91/38 rifle.
then rush back, jump in the drivers side of limo, stash the cloak and drive off without the limo ever slowing down.
in front of TV cameras ,photographers and a shit load of wittinesses!

I agree with you, but I've thought about composing a post to explain what life was like in 1963 for people who were not alive back then. It was still the stone age as far as TV goes. There were no TV cameras in Dealey Plaza, only amateur photographers. Abraham Zapruder's film was made on an 8 mm home movie camera.

Another important fact: The Warren Commission authored a 26 volume report in 1964. It claimed Oswald was the line assassin. The American people bought the report, figuring that a report being that voluminous must have been the result of a thorough investigation. It wasn't until 1975 that the America public got to see the Zapruder film. Seeing the President's head thrown against the trunk of the limo, and Jackie climbing on the trunk lid to retrieve a piece of her husband's head caused an outrage. Americans knew they were lied to.

ahh ....I was alive back then..and there were tv cameras there mostly film,
JFK'S ASSASSINATION (CBS-TV COVERAGE)(11+ HOURS OF FOOTAGE)(PART 1) - YouTube!
,

 

[Bfgrn]

if you buy that...you'd have to believe that Greer could stop time or barrow an Elvin cloak from Frodo to be invisible as he ran to the back of the limo and shot Connelly with a pistol that fired the same caliber bullets as the 6.5 mm Carcano Model 91/38 rifle.
then rush back, jump in the drivers side of limo, stash the cloak and drive off without the limo ever slowing down.
in front of TV cameras ,photographers and a shit load of wittinesses!

I agree with you, but I've thought about composing a post to explain what life was like in 1963 for people who were not alive back then. It was still the stone age as far as TV goes. There were no TV cameras in Dealey Plaza, only amateur photographers. Abraham Zapruder's film was made on an 8 mm home movie camera.

Another important fact: The Warren Commission authored a 26 volume report in 1964. It claimed Oswald was the line assassin. The American people bought the report, figuring that a report being that voluminous must have been the result of a thorough investigation. It wasn't until 1975 that the America public got to see the Zapruder film. Seeing the President's head thrown against the trunk of the limo, and Jackie climbing on the trunk lid to retrieve a piece of her husband's head caused an outrage. Americans knew they were lied to.

ahh ....I was alive back then..and there were tv cameras there mostly film,
JFK'S ASSASSINATION (CBS-TV COVERAGE)(11+ HOURS OF FOOTAGE)(PART 1) - YouTube!
,

You need to pay closer attention. What I said was: There were no TV cameras in Dealey Plaza, only amateur photographers.

 

[daws101]

I agree with you, but I've thought about composing a post to explain what life was like in 1963 for people who were not alive back then. It was still the stone age as far as TV goes. There were no TV cameras in Dealey Plaza, only amateur photographers. Abraham Zapruder's film was made on an 8 mm home movie camera.

Another important fact: The Warren Commission authored a 26 volume report in 1964. It claimed Oswald was the line assassin. The American people bought the report, figuring that a report being that voluminous must have been the result of a thorough investigation. It wasn't until 1975 that the America public got to see the Zapruder film. Seeing the President's head thrown against the trunk of the limo, and Jackie climbing on the trunk lid to retrieve a piece of her husband's head caused an outrage. Americans knew they were lied to.

ahh ....I was alive back then..and there were tv cameras there mostly film,
JFK'S ASSASSINATION (CBS-TV COVERAGE)(11+ HOURS OF FOOTAGE)(PART 1) - YouTube!
,

You need to pay closer attention. What I said was: There were no TV cameras in Dealey Plaza, only amateur photographers.

should have said was "there were TV "film" cameras in the plaza". in those days they would shoot a roll and have a"runner" take it back to the station for processing.
hence the term "film at eleven"
video tape or rotoscope as it was called then was for the most part too cumbersome to use outdoors.

odd that oswald's assassination was caught on tape.

 

[Bfgrn]

ahh ....I was alive back then..and there were tv cameras there mostly film,
JFK'S ASSASSINATION (CBS-TV COVERAGE)(11+ HOURS OF FOOTAGE)(PART 1) - YouTube!
,

You need to pay closer attention. What I said was: There were no TV cameras in Dealey Plaza, only amateur photographers.

should have said was "there were TV "film" cameras in the plaza". in those days they would shoot a roll and have a"runner" take it back to the station for processing.
hence the term "film at eleven"
video tape or rotoscope as it was called then was for the most part too cumbersome to use outdoors.

odd that oswald's assassination was caught on tape.

There were no TV "film" cameras in the plaza. It was the end of the motorcade. The crowds were thin. They were seconds from jumping on the Stemmons Freeway to head the the Trade Mart.

The assassination was caught on a 8 mm Bell & Howell Zoomatic Director Series Model 414 PD home movie camera by amateur photographer Abraham Zapruder.

The Zapruder film was never seen by the public until March 6, 1975 on the ABC late-night television show Good Night America (hosted by Geraldo Rivera), assassination researchers Robert Groden and Dick Gregory presented the first-ever network television showing of the Zapruder home movie. The public's response and outrage to that first television showing quickly led to the forming of the Hart-Schweiker investigation, contributed to the Church Committee Investigation on Intelligence Activities by the United States, and resulted in the House Select Committee on Assassinations investigation.

The only professional photos in Dealey Plaza at the time of the assassination were taken by James Altgens, an American photographer and field reporter for the Associated Press.

 

[daws101]

You need to pay closer attention. What I said was: There were no TV cameras in Dealey Plaza, only amateur photographers.

should have said was "there were TV "film" cameras in the plaza". in those days they would shoot a roll and have a"runner" take it back to the station for processing.
hence the term "film at eleven"
video tape or rotoscope as it was called then was for the most part too cumbersome to use outdoors.

odd that oswald's assassination was caught on tape.

There were no TV "film" cameras in the plaza. It was the end of the motorcade. The crowds were thin. They were seconds from jumping on the Stemmons Freeway to head the the Trade Mart.

The assassination was caught on a 8 mm Bell & Howell Zoomatic Director Series Model 414 PD home movie camera by amateur photographer Abraham Zapruder.

The Zapruder film was never seen by the public until March 6, 1975 on the ABC late-night television show Good Night America (hosted by Geraldo Rivera), assassination researchers Robert Groden and Dick Gregory presented the first-ever network television showing of the Zapruder home movie. The public's response and outrage to that first television showing quickly led to the forming of the Hart-Schweiker investigation, contributed to the Church Committee Investigation on Intelligence Activities by the United States, and resulted in the House Select Committee on Assassinations investigation.

The only professional photos in Dealey Plaza at the time of the assassination were taken by James Altgens, an American photographer and field reporter for the Associated Press.

sing to the choir much?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The driver did not kill the President. It is ridiculous.

The driver did kill the President. It is obvious. The grassy knoll is an old and easily debunked theory. It is laughable that kooks still post that nonsense.

If Greer wanted to kill the President, WHY would he do it in broad daylight? He had access to the President in private settings... you really need to THINK. There was another Secret Service agent in the limo along with the President's wife, the Governor of Texas and his wife, plus a carload of very loyal agents in the Queen Mary just behind the President.

thats a good point but to answer that its because of the same reason the CIA themselves did not pull it off like that in the middle of the night a long time ago when they easily could have.This one researcher talked about that saying they could easily have drugged him and killed him in the middle of the night several different ways along time ago before then if they had wanted to, but the reason they did not was they wanted to arrogantly show off their power to the whole world who was really is in charge of running the country and they wanted the whole world to witness their power they had of killing the president. so Greer did not do it in the middle of the night because of that reason.He has to answer to a higher power you know?Everybody that was involved got off scott free,they knew they would so Greer did not care.Look how many years its been since this happened and how the real killers got away with it all.

answer this question,this is one that nobody has ever been able to answer,if Greer did not pull the trigger,then why in the nix film is he turning around with his left arm and raising it at Kennedy? People use the altered zapruder film as evidence that you dont see his arm go backwards but thats because again,the zapruder film has been altered so they have no argument there with the z film.

.In the nix film though which I will post the pic for that seven has posted many times here,you see that Greer turns around and he raises his left arm.I dont think he is turning around raising his arm up like that to try and pull the bullet out of Kennedys head. I asked troll Irrationalist this and he of course ignored the evidence that Greer DOES point his left arm around to the back and raise it. These trolls here cant get around that and deny it. so whats your theory then by chance why he is doing that then if he is not shooting Kennedy?

I hope you have a much better answer than this deniar below had when I brought that up.unlike these trolls here that keep posting,HE at least acknowledged the obvious that Greer DID turn around and raise his left arm and all he could come up with was this laughable and pathetic answer below.

Do you not think his reaction could have been involuntary.?????????

See I can at LEAST respect this poster unlike I can trolls daws kid,liar ability,candyfag,Irrationalt and the other idiots who keep coming on here propping up the warren commission that oswald was the lone assassin because this poster-he called himself john connor,he at least is aknowledging the obvious that Greer did turn around and raise his left arm.He came up with a moronic answer that I would only expect out of a retard but again,I can at least respect the guy since he did not do what all these trolls here have done saying Greer did not point his left arm back towards Kennedy. His answer practically made me fall out of the chair laughing saying his reaction was involuntary?

yeah a TRAINED agent who has hundreds of hours of training for these situations is going to do that involuntary? thats priceless.I love it. well whats YOUR reply? I hope you can at least come up with something far better than that moronic reply he came up with. The apologists they want to live in denial. I asked the mod there and all others to come up with an answer and the mod ran off and never tried.this guy was the only one who tried to explain it and he failed miserably. unlike seven,I dont care if people dont want to see it that Greer shot kennedy.I just would like to hear a much better explanation to it than that moronic comment that moron John Connor came up with.lol. the only poster I have ever come across before on any message board who was big enough to admit Greers left arm went around and the only one to date who has tried to answer it.

btw,shouldnt you read the book he referenced to before automatically dimissing it that Greer did not do it? that is the proper way to debate you know? Look at the evidence that your opponent presents which includes books and then refute it.Thats why I always enjoy reading your posts because unlike all these trolls who defend the fairy tale that oswald did it,you address their points all the time and counter them.Thats why I dont bother with these lone nut theorists anymore because they never address your facts or points you bring up and run off with their tail between their legs when you challenge them to read a book that proves your case.anytime ANYBODY challenges me to read a book on a message board in a debate,I always take that challenge and read that book especially when its about Kennedy.These trolls here dont get it that thats the number one rule to follow is take your opponents challenge and read the book he refers you to and fefute it.they always run off. until you read the book he referred you to,you dont have a case that he is wrong.there may be a lot of information in there in that book you dont know about.

 

[Bfgrn]

should have said was "there were TV "film" cameras in the plaza". in those days they would shoot a roll and have a"runner" take it back to the station for processing.
hence the term "film at eleven"
video tape or rotoscope as it was called then was for the most part too cumbersome to use outdoors.

odd that oswald's assassination was caught on tape.

There were no TV "film" cameras in the plaza. It was the end of the motorcade. The crowds were thin. They were seconds from jumping on the Stemmons Freeway to head the the Trade Mart.

The assassination was caught on a 8 mm Bell & Howell Zoomatic Director Series Model 414 PD home movie camera by amateur photographer Abraham Zapruder.

The Zapruder film was never seen by the public until March 6, 1975 on the ABC late-night television show Good Night America (hosted by Geraldo Rivera), assassination researchers Robert Groden and Dick Gregory presented the first-ever network television showing of the Zapruder home movie. The public's response and outrage to that first television showing quickly led to the forming of the Hart-Schweiker investigation, contributed to the Church Committee Investigation on Intelligence Activities by the United States, and resulted in the House Select Committee on Assassinations investigation.

The only professional photos in Dealey Plaza at the time of the assassination were taken by James Altgens, an American photographer and field reporter for the Associated Press.

sing to the choir much?

You are the one disputing there were TV cameras in Dealey Plaza.